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hey yall its that time of the year to talk about awards & poo poo "CATEGORY A" AWARDS – WINNERS DETERMINED BY POINTS ON A 5-3-2 BASIS. FIRST PLACE VOTES IN PARENTHESIS LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD (WRESTLER OF THE YEAR) 1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI (419) 3,328 2. C.M. Punk (294) 2,325 3. Kazuchika Okada (75) 1,221 4. John Cena (31) 857 5. Daniel Bryan (5) 204 6. Austin Aries (2) 157 7. Bobby Roode (10) 130 8. Cima (3) 101 9. Sheamus (4) 69 10. The Rock (2) 37 ~~~~~ MIXED MARTIAL ARTS MOST VALUABLE 1. ANDERSON SILVA (387) 3,096 2. Jon Jones (142) 1.986 3. Ronda Rousey (149) 1,638 4. Georges St-Pierre (75) 998 5. Chael Sonnen (51) 692 6. Benson Henderson (7) 147 7. Junior Dos Santos (11) 115 ~~~~~ MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER 1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI (394) 2,695 2. Kazuchika Okada (114) 1,326 3. Daniel Bryan (153) 1,273 4. El Generico (55) 515 5. C.M. Punk (34) 469 6. Austin Aries (20) 358 7. Davey Richards (18) 317 8. Dolph Ziggler (2) 244 9. Daisuke Sekimoto (5) 197 10. Tetsuya Naito (1) 161 ~~~~~ MOST OUTSTANDING FIGHTER OF THE YEAR 1. ANDERSON SILVA (224) 2,216 2. Jon Jones (216) 1,871 3. Ronda Rousey (183) 1,540 4. Johny Hendricks (67) 1,035 5. Benson Henderson (65) 569 6. Georges St-Pierre (40) 392 7. Junior Dos Santos (2) 117 8. Renan Barao (3) 101 9. Jose Aldo Jr. (6) 95 10. Cain Velasquez 31 ~~~~~ BEST BOX OFFICE DRAW 1. THE ROCK (422) 2,620 2. John Cena (92) 1,564 3. Brock Lesnar (123) 1,309 4. Anderson Silva (55) 733 5. Georges St-Pierre (26) 565 6. Chael Sonnen (9) 317 7. Hiroshi Tanahashi (22) 245 8. Jon Jones (2) 212 9. C.M. Punk (4) 121 ~~~~~ FEUD OF THE YEAR 1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI VS. KAZUCHIKA OKADA (275) 1,753 2. Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen (238) 1,689 3. The Rock vs. John Cena (121) 1,136 4. C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan (49) 512 5. Ronda Rousey vs. Miesha Tate (15) 371 6. John Cena vs. C.M. Punk (16) 291 7. Blue Panther vs. Negro Casas (25) 271 8. John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar (7) 235 9. Yuji Nagata vs. Stack of Arms (8) 214 10. Bobby Roode vs. James Storm (22) 203 ~~~~~ TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR 1. CHRISTOPHER DANIELS & KAZARIAN (373) 2,248 2. Kane & Daniel Bryan (124) 1,219 3. Young Bucks (78) 1,071 4. Mark & Jay Briscoe (43) 805 5. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya (73) 612 6. Super Smash Brother (61) 579 7. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi (51) 539 8. Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan (8) 347 9. Katsuyori Shibata & Kazushi Sakuraba (2) 184 10. Cody Rhodes & Damien Sandow (3) 161 ~~~~~ MOST IMPROVED 1. KAZUCHIKA OKADA (517) 2,948 2. Michael Elgin (52) 887 3. Rush (64) 576 4. Damien Sandow (33) 552 5. Bully Ray (25) 344 6. Adam Cole (14) 322 7. Karl Anderson (1) 253 8. Titus O’Neil (9) 194 9. Dolph Ziggler (20) 178 10. Frankie Kazarian (18) 173 ~~~~~ BEST ON INTERVIEWS 1. C.M. PUNK (365) 2,668 2. Chael Sonnen (145) 1,557 3. The Rock (129) 1,131 4. Paul Heyman (37) 608 5. Christopher Daniels (12) 299 6. Kevin Steen (14) 291 7. Bully Ray (22) 284 8. Daniel Bryan (14) 272 9. Big Show (2) 176 10. Austin Aries (8) 167 ~~~~~ MOST CHARISMATIC 1. THE ROCK (298) 2,077 2. Hiroshi Tanahashi (74) 1,275 3. John Cena (69) 1,067 4. C.M. Punk (107) 1,032 5. Daniel Bryan (67) 539 6. Chael Sonnen (28) 378 7. Brock Lesnar (6) 281 8. Georges St-Pierre (3) 199 9. Shinsuke Nakamura (2) 124 10. Austin Aries (1) 117 ~~~~~ BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER 1. DANIEL BRYAN (391) 2,513 2. Prince Devitt (122) 1,030 3. Davey Richards (43) 969 4. Hiroshi Tanahashi (77) 774 5. Zack Sabre Jr. (52) 536 6. Yuji Nagata (41) 369 7. Austin Aries (13) 273 8. Daisuke Sekimoto (2) 144 9. Negro Casas (5) 134 10. Eddie Edwards (3) 119 ~~~~~ BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL AWARD (BEST BRAWLER) 1. KEVIN STEEN (368) 2,457 2. Togi Makabe (49) 755 3. Bully Ray (71) 726 4. Sheamus (31) 716 5. Brock Lesnar (69) 466 6. Sami Callihan (27) 404 7. Michael Elgin (3) 231 8. Big Show (26) 221 9. Minoru Suzuki (29) 203 10. L.A. Park (11) 176 ~~~~~ BEST FLYING WRESTLER 1. KOTA IBUSHI (285) 1,857 2. Ricochet (111) 1,229 3. Pac (88) 1,108 4. El Generico (87) 722 5. A.R. Fox (46) 540 6. La Sombra (17) 415 7. Samuray del Sol (46) 412 8. Prince Devitt (9) 300 9. Mascara Dorada (26) 271 10. Kenny Omega (22) 241 ~~~~~ MOST OVERRATED 1. RYBACK (148) 1,028 2. The Miz (88) 825 3. Garett Bischoff (55) 405 4. Randy Orton (21) 299 5. Ken Anderson (9) 295 6. Sheamus (13) 286 7. Matt Morgan (21) 240 8. Big Show (2) 195` 9. Rob Van Dam (14) 142 10. Brodus Clay (1) 134 ~~~~~ MOST UNDERRATED 1. TYSON KIDD (286) 1,629 2. Dolph Ziggler (85) 718 3. Daniel Bryan (56) 357 4. Kassius Ohno (32) 293 5. Jack Swagger (9) 260 6. Drew McIntyre (19) 251 7. Sin Cara (18) 209 8. Satoshi Ishii (15) 183 9. Hunico (6) 172 10. Justin Gabriel 139 ~~~~~ PROMOTION OF THE YEAR 1. NEW JAPAN PRO WRESTLING (497) 3,452 2. Ultimate Fighting Championships (91) 1,388 3. World Wrestling Entertainment (85) 1,357 4. Dragon Gate (33) 477 5. CHIKARA Pro (19) 344 6. Total Nonstop Action (18) 324 7. Pro Wrestling Guerrilla (3) 308 8. IWRG (5) 255 9. AAA (12) 253 10. ROH 133 ~~~~~ BEST WEEKLY TV SHOW 1. TNA IMPACT (122) 1,043 2. Ring of Honor (73) 926 3. WWE NXT (61) 869 4. WWE Monday Night Raw (76) 828 5. WWE Main Event (85) 819 6. Dragon Gate Infinity (65) 781 7. WWE Smackdown (28) 591 8. Bellator (60) 433 9. New Japan World Pro Wrestling (62) 401 10. Fight Factory (36) 289 ~~~~~ PRO WRESTLING MATCH OF THE YEAR 1. TANAHASHI VS. SUZUKI 10/8 TOKYO (277) 2,014 2. John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar 4/29 Chicago(87) 1,202 3. Davey Richards vs. Michael Elgin 3/31 Ft. Lauderdale (146) 1,185 4. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada 6/16 Osaka (121) 1,057 5. Undertaker vs. HHH 4/1 Miami (77) 859 6. Kazuchika Okada vs. Tetsuya Naito 3/4 Tokyo (68) 661 7. Kenny Omega vs. Kota Ibushi 8/18 Tokyo (35) 204 8. C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan 5/20 Raleigh (4) 180 9. The Rock vs. John Cena 4/1 Miami (18) 135 10. Blue Panther vs. Negro Casas 3/2 Mexico City (2) 121 ~~~~~ MMA MATCH OF THE YEAR 1. CHAN SUNG JUNG VS. DUSTIN POIRIER 5/15 FAIRFAX(352)2,107 2. Benson Henderson vs. Frankie Edgar 2/26 Saitama (129) 1,298 3. Georges St-Pierre vs. Carlos Condit 11/17 Montreal (154) 1,212 4. Ronda Rousey vs. Miesha Tate 3/3 Columbus (16) 911 5. Miesha Tate vs. Julie Kedzie 8/18 San Diego (95) 846 6. Joe Lauzon vs. Jamie Varner 8/4 Los Angeles (24) 625 7. Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen 7/7 Las Vegas (29) 310 8. Gilbert Melendez vs. Josh Thomson 5/19 San Jose (3) 272 9. Jon Fitch vs. Erick Silva 10/13 Rio de Janeiro (2) 228 10. Frank Mir vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 12/10/11 Rio (25) 226 ~~~~~ ROOKIE OF THE YEAR 1. DINASTIA (199) 1,530 2. Mr. Touchdown (214) 1,496 3. Eita Kobayashi (106) 755 4. ACH (5) 519 5. Saturyne (31) 341 6. Tadarius Thomas (40) 291 7. Ross & Marshall Von Erich (1) 110 ~~~~~ BEST NON-WRESTLER 1. PAUL HEYMAN (479) 2,747 2. Ricardo Rodriguez (97) 1,291 3. Vickie Guerrero (24) 722 4. A.J. (22) 464 5. Gedo (25) 404 6. John Laurinaitis (3) 172 7. Truth Martini (4) 157 8. Vince McMahon (2) 153 9. Nigel McGuinness (8) 129 10. Jim Cornette 99 ~~~~~ BEST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER 1. JIM ROSS (234) 1,902 2. Nigel McGuinness (205) 1,647 3. William Regal (64) 967 4. Joe Rogan (130) 965 5. JBL (47) 777 6. Kevin Kelly (29) 364 7. Mike Tenay (10) 192 8. Michael Schiavello (24) 181 9. Jesse Manuel Guillen (12) 175 10. Mike Goldberg (6) 115 ~~~~~ WORST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER 1. MICHAEL COLE (166) 1,723 2. Taz (117) 1,242 3. Booker T (151) 1,023 4. Jerry Lawler (109) 920 5. Josh Matthews (23) 412 6. The Miz (28) 214 7. Todd Keneley (17) 184 8. Mike Goldberg (10) 135 9. Jesus Zuniga (12) 95 10. Mike Tenay (8) 90 ~~~~~ BEST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW 1. NEW JAPAN KINGS OF PRO WRESTLING 10/8 TOKYO (425)2,618 2. WWE Extreme Rules 4/29 Chicago (118) 1,348 3. WWE WrestleMania 4/1 Miami (13) 1,033 4. New Japan Dominion 6/16 Osaka (23) 479 5. ROH Glory by Honor 10/13 Mississauga (38) 364 6. All Japan 3/20 Tokyo (2) 323 7. CMLL Anniversary show 9/14 Arena Mexico (29) 257 8. UFC 146 All Heavyweight show 5/26 Las Vegas (13) 213 9. WWE TLC 2011 12/18 Baltimore (17) 185 10. TNA Destination X 7/8 Orlando (2) 184 ~~~~~ "CATEGORY B" AWARDS - WINNER DETERMINED BY FIRST PLACE VOTES WORST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW 1. UFC 149 7/21 CALGARY 214 2. Extreme Reunion 4/28 Philadelphia 113 3. WWE No Way Out 5/20 East Rutherford, NJ 94 4. TNA Against All Odds 2/12 Orlando 74 5. TNA Genesis 1/8 Orlando 39 6. WWE Royal Rumble 1/29 St. Louis 32 7. TNA Lockdown 4/15 Nashville 28 8. WWE Hell in a Cell 10/28 Atlanta 27 9. TNA No Surrender 9/9 Orlando 23 10. UFC on FX Maynard vs. Guida 6/22 Atlantic City 19 ~~~~~ BEST WRESTLING MANEUVER 1. KAZUCHIKA OKADA RAINMAKER 201 2. Antonio Cesaro Neutralizer 92 3. Daniel Bryan Yes/No/LeBell lock 82 4. Antonio Cesaro versions of bolo forearm 64 5. Ricochet 630 30 6. Sonjay Dutt moonsault double foot stomp 29 7. Dragon Kid dragon rana 18 ~~~~~ MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC 1. WWE’S PRESENTATION OF PAUL HEYMAN AND C.M. PUNK COMING IN DURING JERRY LAWLER’S RETURN, AIRING CLIPS OF HIM WHILE HE WAS DEAD AND BEING REVIVED, AND THE FAKE HEART ATTACK PROMO 493 2. Extreme Rising using Sabu’s overdose/passing out while advertising his return to the promotion 44 3. UFC’s handling of Jeremy Stephens’ arrest, trying to bail him out and still have him fight on the show while he was stuck in jail that afternoon 27 4. Linda McMahon’s senatorial campaign and how WWE handled it 19 ~~~~~ WORST TELEVISION SHOW 1. WWE RAW 319 2. TNA Impact 199 3. Ultimate Fighter: Nelson vs. Carwin 81 4. WWE Smackdown 71 5. Ring of Honor 41 6. CMLL 17 7. Championship Wrestling from Hollywood 16 ~~~~~ WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR 1. JOHN CENA VS. JOHN LAURINAITIS 5/20 RALEIGH 151 2. Santino Marella vs. Ricardo Rodriguez 6/17 E Rutherford 78 3. Clay Guida vs. Gray Maynard 6/22 Atlantic City 48 4. John Cena vs. Kane 1/29 St. Louis 38 Gunner vs. Kris Lewis 8/23 Orlando 38 6. Divas Battle Royal 8/20 Fresno 29 7. Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan 4/1 Miami 28 8. Brodus Clay vs. David Otunga 6/17 East Rutherford 25 9. Gunner vs. Garett Bischoff 2/12 Orlando 21 ~~~~~ WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR 1. JOHN CENA VS. KANE 253 2. TNA vs. Aces and 8s 192 3. John Cena vs. John Laurinaitis 65 4. Kane vs. Zack Ryder 43 5. Vickie Guerrero vs. A.J. Lee 41 6. A.J. Styles vs. Claire Lynch 19 ~~~~~ WORST PROMOTION OF THE YEAR 1. TOTAL NONSTOP ACTION 269 2. Ring of Honor 202 3. World Wrestling Entertainment 80 4. Pro Wrestling NOAH 72 5. Extreme Rising 65 6. Strikeforce 56 7. Bellator 44 8. Inoki Genome Federation 32 9. Championship Wrestling from Hollywood 18 ~~~~~ BEST BOOKER 1. GEDO & JADO 592 2. Joe Silva 154 3. Mike Quackenbush 58 4. Vince McMahon 20 ~~~~~ PROMOTER OF THE YEAR 1. DANA WHITE 379 2. Takaaki Kidani 289 3. Vince McMahon 171 4. Mike Quackenbush 59 ~~~~~ BEST GIMMICK 1. JOSEPH PARK 154 2. Damien Sandow Savior of the Masses 147 3. Daniel Bryan Yes/No 111 4. Kazuchika Okada Rainmaker 97 5. C.M. Punk all year as champion 58 5. Ryback 53 6. Team Hell No 26 7. Antonio Cesaro 21 8. Bray Wyatt 19 9. Bully Ray 17 ~~~~~ WORST GIMMICK 1. ACES AND 8S 163 2. Tensai 148 3. Natalya farting 92 4. Claire Lynch 90 5. Brodus Clay 48 6. The Miz 27 7. A.J. as General Manager 21 8. Joseph Park 18 ~~~~~ BEST PRO WRESTLING BOOK 1. SHOOTERS BY JONATHAN SNOWDEN 137 2. Heroes and Icons by Oliver/Johnson/Mooneyham 72 3. From Prison to Promise by Booker T 49 4. Storm Front by Lance Storm 23 ~~~~~ BEST PRO WRESTLING DVD 1. C.M. PUNK BEST IN THE WORLD 548 2. Last of McGuinness 21 3. Such Great Heights: The Jon Fitch Story 19 ~~~~~ thats the awards The Shaman of Cum fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2013 around 01:56 |
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postin levels------its over 9000!!!!!!!!!
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Looks like 21 people didn't realize Last of McGuinness falls in the 2013 category. Booker T & Josh Matthews deserved worst announcer much more than Michael Cole. HulkaMatt fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2013 around 01:59 |
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I guess it's more a testament to how far off the map joshi's fallen but Natsuki*Taiyo not being anywhere in a "best flying wrestler" category is kind of a shame. She doesn't do lots of fancy flips but her dives and splashes and such are picture perfect aided by the fact she moves like the goddamn Flash. Also at this point they may as well rename "Best Technical Wrestler" to "The Bryan Danielson Award For In-Ring Excellence" or something.
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The awards reminded me of how loving awful Kane was in the first three months of this year. It makes it even harder to believe how much I enjoyed him as a character once he got involved with Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, and AJ.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 02:03 |
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Jim Ross winning best announcer is ridiculous - I really love JR and thought he was pretty off in 2012, mostly because they weren't playing to his strengths and letting him do Play by Play. Nigel should have won that one. Also I'm surprised that Elgin/Richards and Taker/HHH are both so "low" on the list, and especially that Brock/Cena beat both. That was an amazing watch with an ending that just completely fell apart, whereas Elgin/Richards started well and improved out of sight by the end and Taker/HHH was great from start to finish.
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i'm truely baffed at tna winning best show, and worst promotion, and second place for worst show
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The fact that "best box office draw" is still a thing people vote on instead of just a piece of trivia Dave tells everybody at the end of the year is still really stupid.Jerusalem posted:Also I'm surprised that Elgin/Richards and Taker/HHH are both so "low" on the list, and especially that Brock/Cena beat both. That was an amazing watch with an ending that just completely fell apart, whereas Elgin/Richards started well and improved out of sight by the end and Taker/HHH was great from start to finish. oatgan fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2013 around 02:10 |
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I am now going to have to look up Hiroshi Tanahashi to see what this cat is all about.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 02:07 |
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I know next to nothing about wrestling so I can't really judge this much but I find it really funny mixing MMA events/fights/feuds in this list, and it's downright shameful Chael Sonnen didn't win every category he's in
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He lives up to the hype, as does Okada. Still can't believe Okada's the same dude who wasted away as a lovely valet in TNA.
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Elgin/Richards was great but ultimately forgotten. Cena/Lesnar was incredible and stood out from everything in WWE and Suzuki/Tanahashi was more recent and was talked up endlessly by the Observer. Ibushi is the best but the language barrier means he'll never get a shot in the US. I hope Ricochet gets signed by somebody.
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Fentry posted:I know next to nothing about wrestling so I can't really judge this much but I find it really funny mixing MMA events/fights/feuds in this list, and it's downright shameful Chael Sonnen didn't win every category he's in It's not something I ever understood either, I don't understand why they're not kept in separate categories.
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Jerusalem posted:It's not something I ever understood either, I don't understand why they're not kept in separate categories. The answer to all these questions and more is "because Dave"
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Agree with a lot of the awards this year. Situation with Technical/Brawler/High Flyer is kind of upsetting as I thought others deserved it. I'm fine with Steen, but I feel the other 2 were pure reputation votes. Overall: Wrestler of the Year: My #2 vote. Voted Okada at #1 MMA Most Valuable: My vote. Most Outstanding W: My vote. Most Outstanding F: My vote. Best Box Office Draw: Don't care. Best Feud: My vote. Best Tag Team: Fine with it. Voted GET WILD at #1. Most Improved: My vote. Best on Interviews: My #3 vote. Voted Rock at #1 Most Charismatic: My #2 vote. Voted Nakamura at #1 Best Technical: My #3 vote. Voted Nagata at #1. Bryan really is winning on reputation at this point. Best Brawler: My vote. Best Flying Wrestler: My #3 vote. Voted Omega at #1. Ibushi had very little buzz with me this year, don't think he should have won it, honestly. Most Overrated: Didn't even vote Ryback. Voted Miz at #1. Most Underrated: My #2 vote. Voted Tomohiro Ishii at #1 Promotion of the Year: My vote. Best Weekly TV Show: Eugh. Voted Infinity at #1. Match of the Year: Think this was mainly influenced by Dave. Voted Okada vs. Goto at #1 MMA Match of the Year: My vote. Best Rookie: My #2 vote. Voted Eita at #1. Best Non-Wrestler: My vote. Best TV Announcer: My #2 vote. Voted Nigel at #1. Worst TV Announcer: My #3 vote for some reason. Voted Booker T at #1. I must have forgotten about Josh Matthews when voting, absolutely don't think Cole should have won this year based on his second half. Best Major Show: My vote. Worst Major Show: Voted Genesis. Best Move: My vote. Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic: My vote. Worst TV Show: My vote. Worst Match of the Year: Voted Flip Cassanova vs. Dakota Darsow Worst Feud: I had voted "Ryder vs. Kane" but I guess this is sort of my vote? Worst Promotion of the Year: Voted WWE. Best Booker: My vote. Best Promoter: Voted Sanshiro Takagi. Best Gimmick: Yeah, my vote. Worst Gimmick: Voted Claire Lynch. Best Book: N/A Best DVD: My vote. Would have voted Last of McGuinness but figured it wasn't eligible until next year. HulkaMatt fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2013 around 02:43 |
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LOL at Chikara being ahead of PWG in Promotion of the Year.
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Jubs posted:LOL at Chikara being ahead of PWG in Promotion of the Year. pwg fans are smart, level headed people, that vote based on facts. chikara fans on the other hand... cuckoo.
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The Shaman of Cum posted:pwg fans are smart, level headed people, that vote based on facts. chikara fans on the other hand... cuckoo. I wonder if Quackenbush made all of his students vote.
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The Shaman of Cum posted:i'm truely baffed at tna winning best show, and worst promotion, and second place for worst show well, I can see them winning best show, because Impact was the most consistently decent (for the most part), widely-available show for a good portion of 2012. at the same time, the company itself is still really, really dumb and still doesn't know how to promote. winning best show and being second place for worst show is funny, though.
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Random question, which is probably 'Because Dave' but why does Dave not put the team names in the tag category for everyone that has one? He even noted that Bad Influence (which is apparently Kaz and Daniels' name?) won, but they and Hell No are listed as the individual guys.
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Nobody remembers they are called Bad Influence.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 04:15 |
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 JOE SILVA LOSES BOOKER OF THE YEAR But seriously, New Japan deserves all the awards they get for their 2012
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 04:29 |
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Nothing really surprising, Tanahashi totally deserves it this year. Could easily see a three-peat too.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 04:30 |
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I think the one thing that's really glaring to me about this list is just how dead wrestling is. Not failing dead, but just completely lifeless. At least a few years ago you had ROH tearing poo poo up and WWE having a cache of older stars + laughably bad TV. How many of these votes were legacy votes or default votes aka "Well nothing really stood out so I guess I'll vote for that?" Feud of the Year is just so sad. Okada vs. Tanahashi, sure, great matches. But the rest: 2 MMA feuds, Cena vs. Rock which was nothing remotely special, and Punk vs. Bryan which was even less so. Then at #6 you have Punk vs. Cena, which was DOA in the summer of 2011. ROH, the company that was usually good for at least one memorable grudge feud a year isn't even on the list.
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What exactly is the difference between "Wrestler of the Year" and "Most Outstanding Wrestler"? Awards seem basically sensible to me, although I think Steen vs Elgin deserved to be at least on the list, I personally enjoyed it more than Richards/Elgin. Don't even remember the WMOTY, the really terrible Cena vs. non wreslter match that that I would would have selected was Cena vs Cole. Nut Bunnies posted:
Yeah, from a pure in ring perspective I thought 2012 was bettert than '11, but I can't really think of any feuds that were really memorable outside of CHIKARA, and this wasn't their best year either.
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Thauros posted:What exactly is the difference between "Wrestler of the Year" and "Most Outstanding Wrestler"? WOTY is like, who meant the most to their promotion that year. most outstanding is more who puts on the best matches
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Thought Richards should have won Best Technical. He just proved it in more matches I'd say.
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Glad Joseph Park won best gimmick. Glad Impact ended its long reign as worst show on television. TNA stepped up this year and became, well, watchable most of the time. Personally I would of given worst promotion to Ring Of Honor. Oh how far they've fallen. On the WWE front, the Three Hour format seems like the death-bell for major wrestling companies. When they spread it to three hours, you can expect even more suckage. God Of Paradise fucked around with this message at Jan 25, 2013 around 03:57 |
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Thought Richards should have won Best Technical. He just proved it in more matches I'd say. Davey Richards should not be rewarded.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Ibushi is the best but the language barrier means he'll never get a shot in the US. I hope Ricochet gets signed by somebody. re: Rookie of the Year; I know Yoshiko started wrestling in 2011, but 2012 was really her "Rookie year" and god drat, did she tear it up. She needs to be renamed "Golden Kong" because she's going to be every bit the wrestler Aja or Awesome Kongs were after they got rolling. Yoshiko was much more impressive than Saturyne, who bounces too much between great high-flyer and botch machine. Flameingblack fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2013 around 14:18 |
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I have no idea what "technical wrestler" means at this point. Does Tanahashi even work the mat? Might as well give him Most Outstanding Fighter while they're at it. Nice to see Casas and Panther get some recognition, anyway.
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The Duck of Death posted:I have no idea what "technical wrestler" means at this point. Does Tanahashi even work the mat? Might as well give him Most Outstanding Fighter while they're at it.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 15:00 |
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In no universe is Cole a worse announcer than Taz, especially the turned-down Cole of this year.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 15:06 |
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flashy_mcflash posted:In no universe is Cole a worse announcer than Taz, especially the turned-down Cole of this year. Several awards just get given out every year on reputation. The only person probably deserving of the award they seem to win every single year is Kane and Worst Feud Taz can somehow go minutes on end without once mentioning TNA or spend an entire match wondering aloud what material the wrestler's clothes are made of. Taz is the best/worst
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Cole's work the night of the heart attack alone should keep him from even being considered for worst commentator. And I don't remember when he first showed up, but that dude who replaced Nigel in ROH should win in a loving rout because he is horrible to a degree mere words cannot describe.
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Ill say this much about Impact winning Best Weekly TV Show: it was consistently entertaining and had fun, compelling storylines for about ten weeks after they fired Russo. Meanwhile Raw has occasional flashes of brilliance and some very talented performers, but it's also booked at the last minute by a nutcase who changes his mind every six minutes which led to some truly truly horrible television this year. And Smackdown, though very good, is at this point pretty blatantly the B-show (maybe even C-show since they've started pushing Main Event so hard). You can never watch smackdown at all and not even miss a beat in terms of following all the major angles. e: sportsgenius86 posted:Cole's work the night of the heart attack alone should keep him from even being considered for worst commentator. Counterpoint: everything they've done on-air since the heart attack has been loving insufferable. Karmine fucked around with this message at Jan 24, 2013 around 16:26 |
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With the switch to 3 hours, RAW has produced some truly awful television this year. Worse yet, the show seems to be incompetently booked and timed out, so that they have 3 hours and still manage to leave out obvious things while filling it with lovely padding and replayed video packages. RAW definitely earned its status as worst show this year. As bad as Impact or other shows can get, they're still a fun way to spend a couple of hours sometimes. I'm looking at the time during RAW by the first hour's end and most times I have to tap out by by 9:30 and just fast forward through it later.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 16:27 |
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Karmine posted:Counterpoint: everything they've done on-air since the heart attack has been loving insufferable. that one night alone immediately puts Cole leagues above Taz, Booker T, Matthews, Keneley, and that Stelzer dude or whatever his name is.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 16:37 |
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Oatgan posted:Taz can somehow go minutes on end without once mentioning TNA or spend an entire match wondering aloud what material the wrestler's clothes are made of. Taz is the best/worst That's true, and *I* enjoy Taz when he goes off on his tangents, but it's hard to make a case for him not being dead-last on that poll because he actively detracts from the product. Karmine posted:Counterpoint: everything they've done on-air since the heart attack has been loving insufferable. Cole himself has not been insufferable and has fallen back into the role of the straight man to Lawler or whomever he's placed next to. If there was any doubt before, it's crystal now that Lawler is the weak link of that team.
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| # ? Jan 24, 2013 16:44 |
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I've been trained to just groan every time I hear Michael Cole talk. Even going back and watching old shows in 2004 I just cannot tolerate him anymore.
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God Of Paradise posted:Glad Joseph Park won best wrestler. Glad Impact ended its long reign as worst show on television. TNA stepped up this year and became, well, watchable most of the time. You really think that ROH is worse then TNA?
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