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Title says it all: Can a team get Young and worse at the same time?
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Yes 119 70.83%
yes 49 29.17%
Total: 168 votes
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Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

jeffersonlives posted:

Yes, that's another reason this isn't an official retirement.

Mozeliak should win executive of the year just for getting that contract insured, incidentally.

Ah ok.

I'm glad StL has a solid group of young guns to come up, however... next year the rotation is looking like.

Wainwright
Lynn
Westbrook
Miller
Kelly/Rosenthal


Uhhhh, hopefully Miller arrives strongly.

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FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Oh, I feel it! I feel the Kozmas!

jeffersonlives posted:

Yes, that's another reason this isn't an official retirement.

Mozeliak should win executive of the year just for getting that contract insured, incidentally.

Wait, the contract's insured?

Hahahaha, this is completely loving harmless, then.

poo poo, go sign Kyle Lohse to a 1/15 or something.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

FairGame posted:

Wait, the contract's insured?

Hahahaha, this is completely loving harmless, then.

poo poo, go sign Kyle Lohse to a 1/15 or something.

No way Lohse would sign a 1 year deal for less than like $20M. Doesn't he want 4/50 or so?

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates


Regnevelc posted:

No way Lohse would sign a 1 year deal for less than like $20M. Doesn't he want 4/50 or so?

Any GM that gives Kyle Lohse 4/50 should be shot.

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA

FairGame posted:



Hell of a run. Game 5 of the 2011 NLDS is still the loving best.

ughhhhhhhhhhhhh gently caress that loving game so much. I'm so sorry Doc

~~this is a subliminal message for cody ross~~

sweets
Oct 24, 2010


Jack Morris is joining the Blue Jays radio team (instead of Dirk Hayhurst) and will be doing around 30 games on TV with Buck Martinez. Guess I'll be watching more games on mute than usual this year.

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Here stands baseball's perfect warrior.

Here stands baseball's perfect knight.


Lohse should only be signed by the Cardinals for the same amount as the qualifying offer. Not a single penny more or less. That would be really funny.

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Oh, I feel it! I feel the Kozmas!

That game was incredible.

Ryan Howard squared up on a 3-0 pitch and just missed it, hitting it to the RF track.
The first pitch in the 9th inning was smoked to dead center by Utley, and probably is at least extra bases if to any other part of the park/it's not negative a million
Furcal makes a ridiculous play to his left to throw out Chooch
The Cardinals load the bases with 1 out in the 8th, and Halladay proceeds to K Berkman and get a weak fly from Holliday

Ryan Howard grounds out to 2nd to end the game and is writhing around in pain at the start of his new contract all while Pujols has his back turned to home plate and is loving screaming at Nick Punto to throw him the loving ball.

Like, I understand why Phillies fans hate that game--it's the baseball version of That loving Yzerman Goal to Blues fans--but it's probably the best postseason game I've ever watched.

MassaShowtime
Aug 16, 2012

Saviour, thy name is Knuckle


sweets posted:

Jack Morris is joining the Blue Jays radio team (instead of Dirk Hayhurst) and will be doing around 30 games on TV with Buck Martinez. Guess I'll be watching more games on mute than usual this year.

Like I wanna be upset about this but Pat Tabler.

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

10 bucks says I'm safe

HATE CURES TRANNYS posted:

Man I remember when everyone saw such a bright future for the Royals.

This has never been true. If Dayton Moore ever finds a beautiful rare birdnest on the ground, he'd take a poo poo into it.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006



The MLB Fan Cave nominees are up again and you really need to vote for this guy.

http://mlb.mlb.com/fancave/vote.jsp#fbid=n4tzKFl60j4


Honestly, I didn't even watch his video.

MassaShowtime
Aug 16, 2012

Saviour, thy name is Knuckle


That dude rules.

Edit: BTW, I need a new avatar and want something Rasmus related someone give me an idea or something.

MassaShowtime fucked around with this message at Feb 5, 2013 around 22:00

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.


FairGame posted:

That game was incredible.

Ryan Howard squared up on a 3-0 pitch and just missed it, hitting it to the RF track.
The first pitch in the 9th inning was smoked to dead center by Utley, and probably is at least extra bases if to any other part of the park/it's not negative a million
Furcal makes a ridiculous play to his left to throw out Chooch
The Cardinals load the bases with 1 out in the 8th, and Halladay proceeds to K Berkman and get a weak fly from Holliday

Ryan Howard grounds out to 2nd to end the game and is writhing around in pain at the start of his new contract all while Pujols has his back turned to home plate and is loving screaming at Nick Punto to throw him the loving ball.

Like, I understand why Phillies fans hate that game--it's the baseball version of That loving Yzerman Goal to Blues fans--but it's probably the best postseason game I've ever watched.







gently caress me, gently caress you, gently caress baseball, Chris Carpenter is worse than Hitler.

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.


Jays streaming their state of the franchise: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/bl...-the-franchise/

Baseball related stuff

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Here stands baseball's perfect warrior.

Here stands baseball's perfect knight.


MassaShowtime posted:

That dude rules.

Edit: BTW, I need a new avatar and want something Rasmus related someone give me an idea or something.

ZJ already has the best Rasmus avatar just wrap it up.

Akbar
Nov 22, 2004

ASK ME ABOUT HOW SHORT TIMING ROUTES CAN SUBSTITUTE FOR A RUNNING GAME

IDIOT.


tadashi posted:

The MLB Fan Cave nominees are up again and you really need to vote for this guy.

http://mlb.mlb.com/fancave/vote.jsp#fbid=n4tzKFl60j4


Honestly, I didn't even watch his video.

I hope he gets hit by a streetcar.

Abel Wingnut
Dec 23, 2002



Moe_Rahn
Jun 1, 2006

I got a question
why they hatin' on me?
I ain't did nothin' to 'em
but count this money
and put my team on
got my whole clique stunnin'
boy wassup
yeeeeeaaaaaahhhh

Groucho Marxist posted:

ZJ already has the best Rasmus avatar just wrap it up.
i'm pretty sure we all know what the best Rasmus avatar is, was, and shall forever be


one day
he will play
in the all
star game

MassaShowtime
Aug 16, 2012

Saviour, thy name is Knuckle


Groucho Marxist posted:

ZJ already has the best Rasmus avatar just wrap it up.

Sonofabitch I forgot about that one.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.


Holy hell this dude is goony.

http://mlbfancave.mlb.com/fancave/v...fd3a41354693362

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.



Holy gently caress how big is the fancave?

Carlton Banks
Jan 5, 2004

"The Tigers' biggest obstacle to a championship will be keeping a straight face. The Tigers in three."

Gonna miss Carpenter, it was awesome to watch him yell at dudes for the dumbest of reasons

I wonder if there's any chance of retiring his number after he is officially retired. Or at least only allow players with anger management issues to use it

GoatSeeGuy
Dec 26, 2003

What if Jerome Walton made me a champion?


sweets posted:

Jack Morris is joining the Blue Jays radio team (instead of Dirk Hayhurst) and will be doing around 30 games on TV with Buck Martinez. Guess I'll be watching more games on mute than usual this year.

I can't believe the Twins didn't bring him in if he wanted to do radio. Not that Dan Gladden isn't decent, but Morris lives in the area and has been doing Winter Caravan stops and other events with the team for a few years now- up to and including sitting in the Twins bullpen telling me the story of pitching against Mike Norris of the A's back in the 80's and Tiger hitters getting so tired of seeing his spitball he decided to load a few up to strike out Rickey Henderson. Billy Martin went nuts but the umpires ignored him since Norris was getting away with murder. Not a hall of famer, but I like Jack Morris.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

There is no future. There is no past. Do you see? Time is simultaneous, an intricately structured jewel that humans insist on viewing one edge at a time, when the whole design is visible in every facet.

Dan Gladden is a good color guy when he doesn't try to talk about statistics or roster makeup.

(I kind of wish they would replace him)

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

Carlton Banks posted:

Gonna miss Carpenter, it was awesome to watch him yell at dudes for the dumbest of reasons

I wonder if there's any chance of retiring his number after he is officially retired. Or at least only allow players with anger management issues to use it

They may. I mean, he had great stretches from 04-06 and 09-11 with injuries between the two.

alpha_destroy
Mar 22, 2010

Billy Butler: Fat Guy by Day, Doubles Machine by Night


Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

Any goon fantasy leagues going to be needing new people or should I lurk Armchair Quarterback? Between MLB.tv and a reminder from Yahoo, I've got the itch.

Actually yes. My brother and I might need a warm body for our league. Do you, by chance, live near KC?

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Here stands baseball's perfect warrior.

Here stands baseball's perfect knight.


Retiring Carpenter's number is certainly possible because the Cardinals retired Gussie Busch's age.

DeltaAttack2go
Feb 6, 2003

what the christ

GoatSeeGuy posted:

I can't believe the Twins didn't bring him in if he wanted to do radio. Not that Dan Gladden isn't decent, but Morris lives in the area and has been doing Winter Caravan stops and other events with the team for a few years now- up to and including sitting in the Twins bullpen telling me the story of pitching against Mike Norris of the A's back in the 80's and Tiger hitters getting so tired of seeing his spitball he decided to load a few up to strike out Rickey Henderson. Billy Martin went nuts but the umpires ignored him since Norris was getting away with murder. Not a hall of famer, but I like Jack Morris.

Jack Morris calling games with Dan Gladden was the loving worst. All he and Dan would do is talk about how awesome they were and they'd miss half the calls in the game. Between John Gordon getting old and losing the counts all the time, Jack Morris talking about himself and Kris Atteberry's godawful sounding voice, we're happy here in MN with Cory Provus.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

When you gotta weed, you gotta weed.


DeltaAttack2go posted:

Jack Morris calling games with Dan Gladden was the loving worst. All he and Dan would do is talk about how awesome they were and they'd miss half the calls in the game. Between John Gordon getting old and losing the counts all the time, Jack Morris talking about himself and Kris Atteberry's godawful sounding voice, we're happy here in MN with Cory Provus.

Provus is pretty good overall, I wish Herb Carneal was still around. Cory and Herb would make a hell of an announce team.

Sweeney Tom
Aug 9, 2012

The elite quarterback, seen here in its natural element.

Todd Helton was arrested for DUI last night.

ch3cooh
Jun 26, 2006

Because second place just isn't good enough

Sweeney Tom posted:

Todd Helton was arrested for DUI last night.

Cross posting from the Hot Stove thread because I didn't see the N/V thread:

Todd Helton arrested last night for DUI

quote:

The Rockies announced Wednesday that Todd Helton, 39, was arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol in Thornton.

"We were extremely disappointed to learn that Todd was arrested this morning. This type of behavior is taken very seriously by our organization. We know that he clearly understands the seriousness of his poor decision, the harm that could have been inflicted on others and the embarrassment his mistake has caused to himself, his family, the Colorado Rockies organization and to Major League Baseball. " "Todd is taking full accountability for his actions with his family, his fans and the organization. The man we have grown to know has strong values that are grounded in his family and hard work. Todd clearly understands the severity of the situation."

The incident was believed to have happened early Wednesday morning.

Helton lives year-round in Brighton, Colo., training in the area during the offseason. He had considered retiring after last year following surgery on his hip, but decided last month to return for the final season of his contract.

Helton, in the last year of his contract, is the most accomplished player in Rockies' history, and said last month that this will likely be his final season in the major leagues. A career .320 hitter, Helton owns 2,420 hits, 354 home runs and 1,345 RBIs. Helton has spent his entire career with the Rockies, debuting in 1997 and taking over as the full-time first baseman in 1998 following Andres Galarraga's departure to Atlanta as a free agent.

Helton is a five-time all-star and has received National League MVP votes six times during his career, finishing as high as fifth in 2000 when he batted .372 with 42 home, 59 doubles and 147 RBIs.

http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/c...g#ixzz2K9GoTubW

jeffersonlives
Jul 22, 2007

But I set fire to the Raines
Watched it pour as I stole your base


A new MLB Network reality show will have Tim Wakefield attempting to convert Doug Flutie, John David Booty, Josh Booty, Ryan Perriloux, and David Greene into knuckleball pitchers. The winner of the show will get a NRI with the Diamondbacks.

No, this is not an Onion article.

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA

jeffersonlives posted:

A new MLB Network reality show will have Tim Wakefield attempting to convert Doug Flutie, John David Booty, Josh Booty, Ryan Perriloux, and David Greene into knuckleball pitchers. The winner of the show will get a NRI with the Diamondbacks.

No, this is not an Onion article.

Hahahaha, that is so loving pointless and I won't be able to not watch it.

isnt that right
Dec 8, 2009



jeffersonlives posted:

A new MLB Network reality show will have Tim Wakefield attempting to convert Doug Flutie, John David Booty, Josh Booty, Ryan Perriloux, and David Greene into knuckleball pitchers. The winner of the show will get a NRI with the Diamondbacks.

No, this is not an Onion article.

I was gonna say that they stole my idea, but if I'm being honest I think we've all had this idea at one point or another.

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates


That's right, folks! Not one but two members of the Booty family!

e: Gonna be hilarious if Doug Flutie wins, since he's even older than Wakefield. At least with some of the others there's a .01% chance of them providing value.

Oh god, what if they have guest judges! "This week, the Angry Knuckler Challenge with guest judge R.A. Dickey. Next week, Eri Yoshida!"

Mornacale fucked around with this message at Feb 6, 2013 around 19:47

jeffersonlives
Jul 22, 2007

But I set fire to the Raines
Watched it pour as I stole your base


"Josh Booty, making his glorious return to Major League Baseball as a 38 year old knuckleballer after a 15 year absence" would be the best baseball storyline ever

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006



jeffersonlives posted:

A new MLB Network reality show will have Tim Wakefield attempting to convert Doug Flutie, John David Booty, Josh Booty, Ryan Perriloux, and David Greene into knuckleball pitchers. The winner of the show will get a NRI with the Diamondbacks.

No, this is not an Onion article.

I think I'd rather watch this than more Prime 9 re-runs.

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.


Mornacale posted:

That's right, folks! Not one but two members of the Booty family!

The Pirates should re-invite whichever one makes it furthest.

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA

Mornacale posted:

That's right, folks! Not one but two members of the Booty family!

I forgot there was a second Booty, as well as the fact that he actually professional baseball experience

WARNING: lolmarlins alert

e: beaten

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jeffersonlives
Jul 22, 2007

But I set fire to the Raines
Watched it pour as I stole your base


Josh Booty as a prospect had so many absurd tools that after a season in which he hit .101/.182/.147 as a 20 year old in Low-A and was demoted back to the New York-Penn League where he hit a slightly better .220/.278/.352 (for a total line of .187/.251/.295), he still made BA's top 100 prospects list.

I don't know that there's ever been a harder tools bust in modern prospecting history. Maybe Toe Nash.

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