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Most hated man in basketball
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Bo Ryan 26 23.01%
Pat Forde 14 12.39%
Tom Crean 15 13.27%
Rick Pitino 18 15.93%
Are you sure it's not Bo Ryan? 40 35.40%
Total: 113 votes
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Emanuel Collective
Jan 16, 2008



N: Apparently the Cameron Crazies chanted "How's your Grandma?" to NC State's Tyler Lewis, whose grandmother died last week.

V: Holy poo poo gently caress Duke somehow even more than normal

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Frot Lesnar
Feb 27, 2007

Midcarder que no ha hecho mierda


Emanuel Collective posted:

N: Apparently the Cameron Crazies chanted "How's your Grandma?" to NC State's Tyler Lewis, whose grandmother died last week.

V: Holy poo poo gently caress Duke somehow even more than normal

It was Past your bedtime

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup


Frot Lesnar posted:

It was Past your bedtime

A reporter for the NC State paper says it was a few guys in the student section, and the "past your bedtime" chant came much later.

In any case we'll get to the bottom of it tomorrow when Grantland's Shane Ryan shits out a compelling in-depth analysis of what three guys yelled at a Duke game

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Dunk a l'Orange


Judging an entire fanbase by like five drunk assholes is really dumb and besides just being a Duke fan in and of itself is a lot more reprehensible than mocking someone for a dead relative.

thompson
Jun 5, 2006

"I'm excited, definitely. I'm just going to try to go out there and play. I'll miss some stuff, I know, but I'll hit some stuff, too."

Matt Stafford

San Diego (not sdsu) making an impact and beating BYU just 2 games after nearly knocking off Gonzaga. Woot!

dude789
Nov 4, 2009

I'll make your ass sense.

Tonight's Tennessee/LSU women's basketball game was one of the best women's basketball games I've ever seen. Tennessee was down by 3 with about 30 seconds left and was able to get the win 64-62. Just give Bashaara Graves the Freshman of the Year award right now. She was able to muscle up the ball through 3 LSU defenders to hit the final basket with .8 seconds left.

Dirty Chub
May 6, 2005





Colorado beat #19 Oregon tonight, ending the ducks 20 game home winning streak. CU never lead until taking the 48-47 lead with 20 seconds left.

LARGE THE HEAD
Sep 1, 2009

"Competitive greatness is when you play your best against the best."

"Learn as if you were to live forever; live as if you were to die tomorrow."

--John Wooden


Didn't watch the game but apparently Oregon had a seven-point lead with 4:30 remaining and never scored again.

See you in the top-25 next year. That loss also might've legitimately cost Oregon an NCAA tournament bid (again) which is upsetting the message-boarders.

If Dana Altman rushes Dominic Artis back from his foot injury I will throw a chair in his direction.

SteelAngel2000
Feb 22, 2007

Win Win Win, cut down nets
A-Z-T-E-C got next
Let 'em play, let 'em play
Home team all day
Work hard like Coach Fish say
Aztecs, what's up?


thompson posted:

San Diego (not sdsu) making an impact and beating BYU just 2 games after nearly knocking off Gonzaga. Woot!

Yay, little brother doing something

Also gently caress BYU forever

Fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2007

The future ain't what it used to be

News: Indiana lost, 74-72, on the road against the Illini in Other Assembly Hall, where the Hoosiers haven't won since Eric Gordon, DJ White, and Kelvin Sampson survived a double-overtime thriller in Champaign in 2008.

Views: drat. That sucked. I did not believe for one second that IU was going to lose that game(much like the Butler game). Not when IU began to cough up a huge second half lead. Not when the Illini pulled within 2. Not when the Illini tied the game at 70. And not when the Illini stole the ball from Oladipo with the score tied at 72. Oladipo recovered quickly, the rest of the Hoosiers got into the play immediately, and Indiana played legitimately great transition defense. Then Zeller fell asleep on an inbounds play with under a second remaining and the Illini won. With .9 remaining, I thought Illinois would get a contested jumper and miss it, sending the game to OT. I had no doubt. Then Griffey laid the ball in to close the game.

I must be bad luck, because I've been in the stands to see Indiana lose two of the three games they've lost this year and they were ranked #1 both times. And they were both buzzer-beaters.

After getting some time to think about it on the way home, I can't say I'm too upset about the loss. Obviously, it has huge ramifications in Indiana's quest for the Midwest region's #1 seed, but I think the team played pretty well overall. There were a few bad turnovers, like they had against Michigan, but they played very well in pretty much all other areas. I heard on the radio that Indiana didn't score any points in transition tonight, which sounds about right. Illinois kept Indiana from scoring in transition, but Indiana executed really well in the halfcourt after the first six minutes or so. They actually looked really good in the halfcourt almost all night. Ferrell has continued to progress offensively, though he had some bad TOs, and Hollowell looks more and more comfortable getting minutes every night. If that stat is right and Indiana scored all 72 of their points in the halfcourt, then I can't be too mad about this loss. I didn't think the defense was bad either. Illinois wasn't really efficient, they just shot a fuckload more threes and probably attempted more field goals overall. Besides that they had an oddly clean game in terms of TOs. Normally they're closer to Minnesota on the TO line but they didn't give the ball away tonight. As for the Hoosiers, outside of the TOs, which I guess aren't a small thing at all, Indiana really played good basketball. They moved the ball well offensively, defended well and closed defensive possessions with rebounds... I guess the most annoying thing about losing tonight is that Illinois didn't play amazingly well or anything. I guess they did shoot very well for playing almost entirely isolation basketball all night and getting very little ball movement, but they didn't shoot the lights out or anything close to it really.

Losing against Butler worried me off more, though it was pretty unsettling to watch the court get rushed against my favorite team. I would say that now I know what those UK fans I sat next to last year felt like, but at least Assembly Hall was sold out for that game. It was even worse seeing the Hoosiers go down in Champaign after thinking about how empty Other Assembly Hall was for a game against the #1 team in the nation.

Indiana executed very well for the most part on the road in Champaign, but they'll have to do much better against the tougher Buckeyes in Columbus if they want to stay in the conversation for a #1 seed. And though the road through the Midwest region appears to go through the Wolverines at this point, Michigan has tough games of their own remaining. Indiana is still in play for a #1 seed if they can beat OSU. Losing to Illinois hurts, but Illinois could ride this win to an NCAA berth. Maybe even with an 8-10 conference record. OSU will put IU at major risk for their first 2-game skid of the season. IU will have to take much better care of the basketball if they want a chance to upset the Buckeyes on their floor.

I was planning to complain a bit about the refereeing, but that was when I still thought Indiana was going to hold on and win. Since they lost, I will only say that the TO on Sheehey was absurd and looks even more absurd in light of what the refs looked past when it came to Groce. Alas, such is life on the road. If the Hoosiers thought a lax whistle let the Illini play pretty physical tonight, they're really going to be in for a shock once they realize what the refs are going to let Aaron Craft get away with in Columbus.

Mach Won
Jun 17, 2004

Is UNC playing? My post is either whining about (1) ref favoritism, (2) unfair recruiting/player caliber, (3) opposing team sucking or (4) the inevitable UNC win. The day you see me giving UNC credit for anything is the day someone hacked my account.

Roy era: 1-16 RIVALS!!!!!


Mons Hubris posted:

A reporter for the NC State paper says it was a few guys in the student section, and the "past your bedtime" chant came much later.

In any case we'll get to the bottom of it tomorrow when Grantland's Shane Ryan shits out a compelling in-depth analysis of what three guys yelled at a Duke game

The players heard it. I'm sure it was a small group of students and I don't think anyone claimed it was the whole student section.

It's Duke fans being Duke fans.

Electromax
May 6, 2007
trying to resist the fear

Goku first one on the scene!



Champaign was rockin' last night.

Coco13
Jun 6, 2004

If I invented a team, this would be the one.


Michigan's 'defacto' #1 now, right? Going to have to pick up a ticket for tomorrow's game.

vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

Oh the popcorn boxes that will be made. They will be glorious and only be fit for Champions. Images will be pressed into the walls of the victors for all to remember.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

I'm laughing that an IU fan is bitching about home-court calls when on the road.

Fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2007

The future ain't what it used to be

Regnevelc posted:

I'm laughing that an IU fan is bitching about home-court calls when on the road.

Where was I bitching? I said this:

Fisticuffs posted:

Alas, such is life on the road.

Which is true, and I mentioned one egregious call. Home-court calls are a factor for all teams on the road. I didn't say anything that suggested I thought that IU was getting persecuted on the road. IU gets calls at home, of course, just like Michigan and Illinois and Ohio State do. Why would I not mention it if it's part of the game?

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007


Exactly what I thought would happen when we rely too much on our 3 point shooting and don't have big men inside to be dominate.. Billy D really needs to work on finding physical big men for the inside as well as these 3 point studs..

gvibes
Jan 18, 2010

Leading us to the promised land (i.e., one tournament win in five years)

Fisticuffs posted:

Where was I bitching? I said this:


Which is true, and I mentioned one egregious call. Home-court calls are a factor for all teams on the road. I didn't say anything that suggested I thought that IU was getting persecuted on the road. IU gets calls at home, of course, just like Michigan and Illinois and Ohio State do. Why would I not mention it if it's part of the game?
If the home big ten team gets called for more fouls than the visitor, then the visitor can't complain about any aspect of the reffing. That's my rule and I'm sticking to it.

Also, of course I'm stuck on a plane for a game like this.

Dirty Chub
May 6, 2005



LARGE THE HEAD posted:

Didn't watch the game but apparently Oregon had a seven-point lead with 4:30 remaining and never scored again.

See you in the top-25 next year. That loss also might've legitimately cost Oregon an NCAA tournament bid (again) which is upsetting the message-boarders.

If Dana Altman rushes Dominic Artis back from his foot injury I will throw a chair in his direction.

The last 5 minutes of the game were so it was almost amazing. Oregon never scored and CU ended on an 8-0 run, but it was the absolute ugliest run I've ever seen. They turned the ball over three straight times during that run but Oregon couldn't buy a basket on the other end.

Sorry if the loss cost the Ducks a bid but I don't think that's true yet.

Dirty Chub fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2013 around 16:06

Fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2007

The future ain't what it used to be

gvibes posted:

If the home big ten team gets called for more fouls than the visitor, then the visitor can't complain about any aspect of the reffing. That's my rule and I'm sticking to it.

Also, of course I'm stuck on a plane for a game like this.

Illinois is a perimeter-oriented team. They shot a much higher percentage of their shots behind the line like they do every night. I would guess that Indiana isn't the only team that has had fewer fouls whistled than Illinois in Champaign and I'm guessing that it won't be exactly uncommon in the Groce era, due to style of play.

Edit: Sucks that you missed your Illini actually playing a good game though

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

I may be biased, but IU seems to get the lion share of calls at home. Much more than any other Big Ten team that I've seen Michigan play.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Dunk a l'Orange


gvibes posted:

If the home big ten team gets called for more fouls than the visitor, then the visitor can't complain about any aspect of the reffing. That's my rule and I'm sticking to it.

This is really silly. I really hate the idea that foul differential (or even worse free throw differential) tells you anything about the quality of officiating. Style of play and the respective quality of the players has a huge influence on the number of fouls.

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails

It is really dumb that officiating is clearly and consistently heavily biased towards the home team in big 10 play though

exethan
May 28, 2007
too legit to quit (smoking, caffeine, etc.)


On that inbounds play he looks like he's dreaming and doesn't believe that no one loving boxed him out.

Fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2007

The future ain't what it used to be

Regnevelc posted:

I may be biased, but IU seems to get the lion share of calls at home. Much more than any other Big Ten team that I've seen Michigan play.

IU is a better team than most of the teams Michigan has played on the road. They're the best team in the country at getting to the line due in part to the fact that they get most of their shots very close to the basket when they shoot inside the arc and they're one of the best offensive rebounding teams in the league.

They do get homer calls, of course, but I don't think they get more favorable calls than other teams get on their home courts. IU earns a lot of those whistles, but yes they do get some homer calls. Wisconsin gets homer calls. Craft never gets whistled in Value City Arena and he'll tell you himself that he fouls on every play. Every team in the conference gets calls at home fairly consistently. Michigan is good at not fouling, but they're much better at not fouling on their own floor and that's not a coincidence.

MourningView posted:

Craft never gets whistled loving anywhere.

True. He was mugging Burke in Crisler arena and finished with only 2 fouls. I don't get it.

Fisticuffs fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2013 around 17:36

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Dunk a l'Orange


Craft never gets whistled loving anywhere.

BlackJosh
Sep 25, 2007


MourningView posted:

Craft never gets whistled loving anywhere.

Honestly, I think it's because he's such a great defender with his feet, and that he gets such good position defensively usually, that people just overlook how handsy he gets sometimes. I mean, it doesn't even really bother me. It's just something that you take as a given when you play Ohio State now. Craft is going to be a complete lockdown defender and going to get away with some stuff, so I can't even get mad when I see him hacking away at a dude at the perimeter. Usually he's at least in the right position and he isn't just getting away with murder, just a little spice on the top.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Dunk a l'Orange


The biggest thing with him is that he got a reputation as an elite lock down defender really early, so refs tend to give him the benefit of the doubt and he's free to just hack away like crazy. It's really irritating.

exethan
May 28, 2007
too legit to quit (smoking, caffeine, etc.)


He hacked Tyshawn Taylor quite a few times in the semifinal last year, even turned his fouls into fouls on Taylor.

BlackJosh
Sep 25, 2007


MourningView posted:

The biggest thing with him is that he got a reputation as an elite lock down defender really early, so refs tend to give him the benefit of the doubt and he's free to just hack away like crazy. It's really irritating.

I mean, the reputation is kinda deserved. I don't like the guy, I loath him, but his defensive footwork and positioning is better than any point guard of I've seen in a long time in college (though I can't say I watch super huge amount of games from the smaller conferences or even some of the bigger conferences so I could be missing out on a lot of guys). He always seems to be putting himself in the right position to make a play or at least stop the offense from making a play.

But then he gets away with just basically slapping a dude down the court as well.

RumbleFish
Dec 20, 2007

You wouldn't like him when he's angry.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi1qjPfY6-A

I think I posted concept art or something of this previously, but they finally finished the locker rooms in Colonial Life Arena. This is a really, really sharp facility that is wasted on the JV team that currently plays in it. We've got the digs, we've got the coach...time to finally get some talent here.

RumbleFish fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2013 around 20:28

exethan
May 28, 2007
too legit to quit (smoking, caffeine, etc.)


Wow, that is some amazing footage of the facilities. I hope Frank Martin can build teams that will become perennial contenders in the SEC, because I like how he yells at people or whatever.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

I think your brain is going soft with all that comedy

Well that's awesome. I'm glad I now have a video to post when K-State fans get all uppity about how they can't believe Frank Martin left K-State for such an inferior program with nothing to offer.

It will go well with the pictures I like to post of Columbia.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

I think your brain is going soft with all that comedy

The solution to KU's shooting woes was just developing a good turn-around Fey.




sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

yo dawg randytar is back dawg


Craft has exceptional awareness of where the officials are located, which plays into his ability to get away with stuff.


Also, OSU students have been camping out for Indiana tickets for a couple days and our freshman guard Amedeo Della Valle has been buying a bunch of donuts in the morning and taking them out to the tents for the people waiting. I guess between classes he just walks to the arena and hangs out with all of them.

Freaquency
May 10, 2007

"Yes I can hear you, I don't have ear cancer!"

sportsgenius86 posted:

Craft has exceptional awareness of where the officials are located, which plays into his ability to get away with stuff.


Also, OSU students have been camping out for Indiana tickets for a couple days and our freshman guard Amedeo Della Valle has been buying a bunch of donuts in the morning and taking them out to the tents for the people waiting. I guess between classes he just walks to the arena and hangs out with all of them.

NCAA investigation into where he gets the money for donuts inbound.

Fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2007

The future ain't what it used to be

sportsgenius86 posted:

Craft has exceptional awareness of where the officials are located, which plays into his ability to get away with stuff.


Also, OSU students have been camping out for Indiana tickets for a couple days and our freshman guard Amedeo Della Valle has been buying a bunch of donuts in the morning and taking them out to the tents for the people waiting. I guess between classes he just walks to the arena and hangs out with all of them.

They'll still technically get to see OSU knock off America's #1 team

Indiana will always be #1 in my heart

Frot Lesnar
Feb 27, 2007

Midcarder que no ha hecho mierda


Freaquency posted:

NCAA investigation into where he gets the money for donuts inbound.

I know you are joking but every student athlete I know of gets the maximum meal plan their college allows. At the end of the semester/quarter just go hang out at the campus convenience store of your choice and they will make drat sure to drop the balance to zero.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

sportsgenius86 posted:

Craft has exceptional awareness of where the officials are located, which plays into his ability to get away with stuff.


Also, OSU students have been camping out for Indiana tickets for a couple days and our freshman guard Amedeo Della Valle has been buying a bunch of donuts in the morning and taking them out to the tents for the people waiting. I guess between classes he just walks to the arena and hangs out with all of them.

Valle is awesome. I wish we would have taken him instead of Spike Albrich.

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goldboilermark
Mar 3, 2007

Brotherly love.


I know people posted about Will Yeguete having a season ending injury. That sucks man, Purdue fanbase has dealt with that more than once in the past few years.

I wanted to make a fun pun on his name but there's nothing fun about season ending injuries

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