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Most hated man in basketball
This poll is closed.
Bo Ryan 26 23.01%
Pat Forde 14 12.39%
Tom Crean 15 13.27%
Rick Pitino 18 15.93%
Are you sure it's not Bo Ryan? 40 35.40%
Total: 113 votes
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R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004



I wonder if the Swop injury means we'll see Aaron Lieberman get off the bench in both home and away yamulka situations.

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MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Dunk a l'Orange


Wait you mean Dev Marble could have been dunking on someone in a yamulka? Goddammit.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004



MourningView posted:

Wait you mean Dev Marble could have been dunking on someone in a yamulka? Goddammit.

Arguably the funniest thing happening in that scenario would a person named "Dev Marble" existing.

Hello Towel
Aug 9, 2010

Oh my.


Fisticuffs posted:

Go to a road game. It's more fun being booed in someone else's arena anyway. 2 tickets to IU@Purdue cost me $200 and they were good seats. Going to see IU at Illinois wasn't much more expensive. The Crossroads Classic was cheaper. The road games we have left are a little more hotly anticipated than IU@PU or IU@UI, at least this year, but they're probably still cheaper than going to a non-Nebraska game at Assembly Hall at this point.

Agreed, being the "enemy" at someone else's place is so much fun.

Ungratek
Aug 2, 2005



How the gently caress did Virginia lose to three 3 CAA teams. We should be an insanely overrated 20-3 team that would cakewalk into the NCAA tournament.

Granted our record still inflates their actual ability but whatever. I'll take a down ACC year if it means an undeserved tourney bid.

Also Virginia Tech is real bad

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Dunk a l'Orange


R.D. Mangles posted:

Arguably the funniest thing happening in that scenario would a person named "Dev Marble" existing.

Well Devyn. Technically Roy Devyn, but the only people who call him Roy are the Iowa marketing folks desperate to remind people that he's related to Iowa's all time leading scorer and racist white people who find the very name Devyn upsetting.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004



I hope the Iowa scoreboard operator plays terrifying Mr. Marbles noises every time he does something.

paperchaseguy
Feb 21, 2002

Of course you know I have no target on my back.


Ungratek posted:

How the gently caress did Virginia lose to three 3 CAA teams. We should be an insanely overrated 20-3 team that would cakewalk into the NCAA tournament.

Granted our record still inflates their actual ability but whatever. I'll take a down ACC year if it means an undeserved tourney bid.

Also Virginia Tech is real bad

The thing with the 3 CAA losses is that senior PG Jontel Evans played in only one game for three minutes. He is a limited player, but is fantastic on defense and crucial to the team's chemistry. Frankly we're better than all the teams we lost to, and only one loss was by more than 6 points. We should be an insanely overrated 22-1 team.

The pack-line defense sometimes has trouble when we have to play inexperienced players, or face teams with very athletic guards. Last year we only beat Towson 57-50, and they only won one game all year!

The UNC game in Chapel Hill on Saturday looms large. Win there and we win all tiebreakers for 3rd place in the ACC.

Frot Lesnar
Feb 27, 2007

Midcarder que no ha hecho mierda


N:

V:

vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

God drat it.

Just read that when Nerlens got to the hospital he screamed "my knee exploded" down the hallway.

stimpy
Jul 27, 2004

Cap'n Scrap'n of the Hit Brigade

on the news here they showed Calipari and Donovan during the post game handshake, and apparently Donovan asked about Noel, and you could read Calipari's lips as he said "I think it popped out".

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010


It's a split second thing so there's nothing actually mean going on, but the lady standing up and leaning forward smiling creeps me out.

vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

Billy's a cool guy. I think him and Cal get along really well (they were joking before the game) and that he's being pretty sincere in asking.

SeannieDarko
Jan 28, 2005


Grittybeard posted:

It's a split second thing so there's nothing actually mean going on, but the lady standing up and leaning forward smiling creeps me out.

I think she's starting to grimace.

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

~~**I'M OLD AS FUCK**~~


So Georgia had three players at the first half with points tonight.

This team loving sucks rear end

vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

So Georgia had three players at the first half with points tonight.

This team loving sucks rear end

Did you get to watch any of the game? I ended up going at the last minute and it was pretty aggravating to watch this team blow so many opportunities. Early in the first half, they had multiple changes to pull away and establish a 5pt+ lead going into half, but they just couldn't convert. This was a very winnable game, but guess what? You probably need to score 50 loving points if you want a decent chance at it.

I pray KCP comes back. This team will be lost without him. Morris, Mann, KCP, and Nemi are the only four I really want to build around. Donte is a complete letdown, Florveus is soft and uncoordinated, and Cannon/Dixon are in wtf space. Brantley and Vinnie are trash most of the time too.

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

~~**I'M OLD AS FUCK**~~


Yeah I was there. Really it just boils down to not having players with any ability to get open and get good looks against a physical defense. KCP is a solid player and Nemi's getting better in the paint but if you have two guys that can actually get in the paint and score, then they're gonna get double teamed and then you have Donte taking contested jumpers from the parking lot.

I feel bad for Mark Fox. He's been in a rebuilding stage for like four years because he has no steady talent to build off of. Thompkins and Leslie declaring gutted the team.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 2003




vikingstrike posted:

God drat it.

Just read that when Nerlens got to the hospital he screamed "my knee exploded" down the hallway.
Man I thought he just banged it on the base of the hoop when I saw it on TV. I knew it was bad from his screaming but I didn't realize it was one of those knee bends completely the wrong way things. That's bad...

vikingstrike
Sep 23, 2007

whats happening, captain

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Yeah I was there. Really it just boils down to not having players with any ability to get open and get good looks against a physical defense. KCP is a solid player and Nemi's getting better in the paint but if you have two guys that can actually get in the paint and score, then they're gonna get double teamed and then you have Donte taking contested jumpers from the parking lot.

I feel bad for Mark Fox. He's been in a rebuilding stage for like four years because he has no steady talent to build off of. Thompkins and Leslie declaring gutted the team.

You're totally right that no one on the team can get open. It's absolutely painful to watch them pass the ball at times. It just goes around the outside and nobody will move or engage. And then again. And again.

Gaines is all right, but he doesn't play enough. Not really sure why, but I think he should be getting Brantley's minutes. Morris has moves but can't finish.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

THREE STAR RECRUIT

rip bama's title hopes
9/1/12-11/10/12



was not expecting that

welp, thanks

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

I think your brain is going soft with all that comedy

Some Florida trainer said he ruptured his patellar tendon.

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007



kiimo posted:

Some Florida trainer said he ruptured his patellar tendon.

Jesus God.

His screams were horrible, man. Heal up please, Nerlens.

Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

What happen then, Mr Bones?
if be you cares to say.


Declan MacManus posted:

was not expecting that

welp, thanks
Read this thread while eating a salad. Then I saw that photo. I'm not hungry anymore. Knee injuries are the stuff of nightmares.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

The 1 and done rule is dumb, ya'll. No reason Noel should have been playing college ball.

Adopt a system like MLB and move on.

SteelAngel2000
Feb 22, 2007

Win Win Win, cut down nets
A-Z-T-E-C got next
Let 'em play, let 'em play
Home team all day
Work hard like Coach Fish say
Aztecs, what's up?


Regnevelc posted:

The 1 and done rule is dumb, ya'll.

Adopt a system like the NFL and move on.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Dunk a l'Orange



No shut up.

SteelAngel2000
Feb 22, 2007

Win Win Win, cut down nets
A-Z-T-E-C got next
Let 'em play, let 'em play
Home team all day
Work hard like Coach Fish say
Aztecs, what's up?



Players staying longer would benefit college basketball and make the regular season more watchable if every player with an iota of talent didn't jump right to the NBA. I like seeing players grow and develop with my college football team, and I like seeing it with my basketball team as well.

I also don't give a poo poo about the NBA so there's that

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

I think your brain is going soft with all that comedy

I am also not for anybody jumping straight to the NBA and ruining the college game. I think it should be two years and if you want to go pro, go Euro. College baseball sucks.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

Baseball is the one you can go pro at right out of high school, but if you go to college you're there for 3 years?


It's the rule that makes sense. The one and done rule is crap and needs to go. It doesn't benefit anyone. If you make the wrong decision, too bad.

sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

yo dawg randytar is back dawg


Regnevelc posted:

Baseball is the one you can go pro at right out of high school, but if you go to college you're there for 3 years?


It's the rule that makes sense. The one and done rule is crap and needs to go. It doesn't benefit anyone. If you make the wrong decision, too bad.

I agree with the baseball rules as well.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

sportsgenius86 posted:

I agree with the baseball rules as well.

A few years ago there was a lot of support from that by NBA GMs (at least per the Nuggets GM at the time). It just didn't work out. I doubt 3 years would fly, but no reason 2 years wouldn't be sufficient for the NBA.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Dunk a l'Orange


gently caress you, kid who is risking potentially millions of dollars, I want my dumb sport to be more watchable.

SteelAngel2000
Feb 22, 2007

Win Win Win, cut down nets
A-Z-T-E-C got next
Let 'em play, let 'em play
Home team all day
Work hard like Coach Fish say
Aztecs, what's up?


MourningView posted:

gently caress you, kid who is risking potentially millions of dollars, I want my dumb sport to be more watchable.

Correct. I am not personally invested in college basketball players financial futures the way you seem to be.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008



MourningView posted:

gently caress you, kid who is risking potentially millions of dollars, I want my dumb sport to be more watchable.

Considering that 99% of guys who go pro end up without a career or money in a decade, making them get an education, even in something stupid like phys ed, would be better than turning them loose at age 19.

SteelAngel2000
Feb 22, 2007

Win Win Win, cut down nets
A-Z-T-E-C got next
Let 'em play, let 'em play
Home team all day
Work hard like Coach Fish say
Aztecs, what's up?


I just don't see the purpose of the 1 and done rule. Most players who are one and done players could go to the NBA straight out of high school. What's the point of making them go to college for a year? If you want to go to the NBA out of high school, good luck to you. If you make the commitment to a university, you should have to stay for two years.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Dunk a l'Orange


Peanut President posted:

Considering that 99% of guys who go pro end up without a career or money in a decade, making them get an education, even in something stupid like phys ed, would be better than turning them loose at age 19.

Three years towards some worthless bullshit degree is not going to save them from financial hardship later on, come on. Especially since the time demands on college athletes make it very difficult to actually take advantage of those educational opportunities and they are frequently actively encouraged by their coaches and schools to take the easiest route possible.

There should be something done to make sure players are better educated on how to handle their money, but that's a seperate issue and should probably come from the NBA.

SteelAngel2000 posted:

Correct. I am not personally invested in college basketball players financial futures the way you seem to be.

It's more that I am not a bad person.

SteelAngel2000 posted:

I just don't see the purpose of the 1 and done rule. Most players who are one and done players could go to the NBA straight out of high school.

Yes, they should be able to do exactly that.

MourningView fucked around with this message at Feb 13, 2013 around 16:39

SteelAngel2000
Feb 22, 2007

Win Win Win, cut down nets
A-Z-T-E-C got next
Let 'em play, let 'em play
Home team all day
Work hard like Coach Fish say
Aztecs, what's up?


MourningView posted:

Yes, they should be able to exactly that.

I agree 100%. There's zero reason to risk injury in college, so they shouldn't have to go. I just think that if you commit to a university, you should stay for two years, minimum.


MourningView posted:


It's more that I am not a bad person.


Oh gently caress off

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

THREE STAR RECRUIT

rip bama's title hopes
9/1/12-11/10/12


It's all academic anyways. Stern isn't going to change the rule and Adam Silver isn't going to open up his tenure with something as controversial as that.

Fisticuffs
Aug 9, 2007

The future ain't what it used to be

Declan MacManus posted:

It's all academic anyways. Stern isn't going to change the rule and Adam Silver isn't going to open up his tenure with something as controversial as that.

I don't know about all that. Any talk of the rule disappearing or the NBA moving to allow high school players to enter the league again is strictly academic but I do think the rule will change. Stern tried to get the rule pushed to 2-and-done recently but the NBAPA was able to fight it off during the lockout. The owners are major fans of the 1-and-done rule and will most likely push for 2-and-done again during the next negotiation with the NBAPA. It'll eventually get pushed through.

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RumbleFish
Dec 20, 2007

You wouldn't like him when he's angry.


I don't really have a problem with the way things are now, probably because I don't see it changing, but I'll throw in with those who think baseball has the best approach. I feel like everybody wins in that scenario -- kids who are pro-ready don't have to waste their time or risk injury, and college fans can enjoy the players who do sign on for more than a nanosecond. In both situations, it's totally the athlete's decision, which is nice as well.

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