politically-loaded maps: sputtering flemishly

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Carbon dioxide: Oct 9, 2012

Frostwerks posted:

That's actually kinda sad. I mean I know it's cost prohibitive to line the canal walls with ladders or recesses but loving hell that has got to be terrible to drown with what looks like just slightly more than arm's reach of salvation.

There are ladders every so often, and even without that it's not like that edge is too high to reach. Also, those canals aren't usually very deep. You need to try hard to drown in there, or be very drunk.

A larger problem is the fact that people throw bike wrecks in there, which means the bottom is lined with sharp pieces of metal. The water isn't very clean either, so I suggest immediately getting a tetanus and rabies shot if you fall into a Dutch city canal and get a cut from a piece of metal.

But, as a guess, canals aren't actually where most people drown. It's natural pools near camping spots and the like that are commonly used for swimming. These have no life guards at all and a few meters from the edge, the bottom tends to drop to a great depth suddenly. Those are relatively dangerous to swim in if you don't know what you're doing.

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Koesj: Aug 3, 2003

Yeah those 'natural' pools which used to be gravel pits have hella cold water welling up which will give you nasty cramps in a nanosecond. People paddle in on a surfboard, take a leap when reaching the middle of the pond, and come up again about a week later.

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Kavak: Aug 23, 2009

Lycus posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%9312_California_budget_crisis

I guess I always thought of it as an extension of the recession. I didn't even know individual states could have credit ratings.

Guavanaut posted:

How do they tell the difference between a religion and a philosophy?

From what I understand, they didn't bother. You just told them you had a religious objection, filled out some paperwork, and you were done. It's gone on for far, far too long, but since California is ground zero for this kind of hippy bullshit, hopefully it will spread.

# ? Jul 29, 2015 12:53

DONT TOUCH THE PC: Jul 15, 2001; You should try it, it's a real buzz.

Carbon dioxide posted:

But, as a guess, canals aren't actually where most people drown. It's natural pools near camping spots and the like that are commonly used for swimming. These have no life guards at all and a few meters from the edge, the bottom tends to drop to a great depth suddenly. Those are relatively dangerous to swim in if you don't know what you're doing.

Koesj posted:

Yeah those 'natural' pools which used to be gravel pits have hella cold water welling up which will give you nasty cramps in a nanosecond. People paddle in on a surfboard, take a leap when reaching the middle of the pond, and come up again about a week later.

Don't forget the evening news regularly running items on people drowning in the many rivers in the Netherlands after underestimating just how dangerous those are.

# ? Jul 29, 2015 12:57

EricBauman: Nov 30, 2005; DOLF IS RECHTVAARDIG

Guavanaut posted:

We have these along canals and waterways where people are likely to walk:

I get that they might be a bit gauche for Amsterdam, but they're better than drowning (and I thought the Dutch liked orange).

e:

It's the 'universal power' where things get weird though, like with Taoism, which considers itself both a religion and philosophy, and would get confused about the deity requirement. Or UU.

I'm pretty sure I've seen these in at least one location in Utrecht and probably near the tour boat docks in Amsterdam

# ? Jul 29, 2015 14:50

Koramei: Nov 11, 2011; I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.

Koesj posted:

Yeah those 'natural' pools which used to be gravel pits have hella cold water welling up which will give you nasty cramps in a nanosecond. People paddle in on a surfboard, take a leap when reaching the middle of the pond, and come up again about a week later.

Any articles on these? That sounds interesting

# ? Jul 29, 2015 15:21

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Koramei posted:

Any articles on these? That sounds interesting

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/18851864/experts-say-quarries-more-dangerous-than-other-bodies-of-water

Basically you can search any local news source from a place with a flooded quarry and you'll find a steady stream of drowning reports.

# ? Jul 29, 2015 15:56

Entropist: Dec 1, 2007; I'm very stupid.

In the Netherlands it's typically illegal to swim in them, but everyone does it anyway. Quite a few high-school kids drown that way, even though Dutch people learn how to swim quite well.

# ? Jul 29, 2015 15:58

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Entropist posted:

Quite a few high-school kids drown that way, even though Dutch people learn how to swim quite well.

Natural selection?

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Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

the jizz taxi posted:

I own the Onion's atlas, and I recall the entry for Bangladesh was dubbed "God's practical joke".

I can recommend the atlas to this thread. Most entries are pretty funny and some are edgy in the proper (non-GBS/shitlord/reddit) sense. My favourite one is a map of the DR Congo with numerous arrows indicating some stuff, including "This gorilla has seen enough".

I have it too and it's really good, you polmap nerds would get a kick out of it.

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ComradeCosmobot: Dec 4, 2004; USPOL July

Kavak posted:

What happened to gently caress up the credit rating so bad in the first place?

Lycus mentioned the 2008-2012 budget crisis, which caused the most recent dip to BBB, but California's credit rating hasn't even been this good since the late 1990s, before the dot-com boom led to a similar budget crisis.

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Reveilled: Apr 19, 2007; Take up your rifles

Entropist posted:

In the Netherlands it's typically illegal to swim in them, but everyone does it anyway. Quite a few high-school kids drown that way, even though Dutch people learn how to swim quite well.

When I was a kid they used to make us watch this video about Dark and Lonely Water to dissuade us from swimming in those places.

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Family Values: Jun 26, 2007

Basically because prop 13 has limited the property tax base, California's revenue is unusually volatile. A much bigger share of revenue comes from income and capital gains taxes than most states, so in a recession the state's revenue takes a big hit.

# ? Jul 29, 2015 22:52

Nintendo Kid: Aug 4, 2011; by Smythe

Also on top of the Prop 13 issue, before they cleaned up the districts to be fair and which resulted in a democratic supermajority, other idiotic propositions had made it so a ton of things like raising taxes needed supermajorities to pass and so the Republicans could just obstruct poo poo whenever. So also not very good for the state's financial health.

# ? Jul 29, 2015 23:28

bagual: Oct 29, 2010; _{_{inconspicuous}}

Reveilled posted:

When I was a kid they used to make us watch this video about Dark and Lonely Water to dissuade us from swimming in those places.

"Sensible children, I have no power over them"

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dublish: Oct 31, 2011

bagual posted:

Fantastic.

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C.M. Kruger: Oct 28, 2013

bagual posted:

In most areas everything flows organically, and then there's the US-Mexican and Russian borders and Namibia.

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ToxicAcne: May 25, 2014

Why is part of Namibia developed and part developing?

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Hadaka Apron: Feb 12, 2015

Why does Japan have "boreal systems of the western world?"

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Koesj: Aug 3, 2003

Honorary boreal

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Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Western Imperialism. Each tree is a US military base.

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frankenfreak: Feb 16, 2007; I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Hadaka Apron posted:

Why does Japan have "boreal systems of the western world?"

Because only Russia doesn't get to be part of the western world. Seriously, just look at the border between Finland and Russia.

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Der Kyhe: Jun 25, 2008

frankenfreak posted:

Because only Russia doesn't get to be part of the western world. Seriously, just look at the border between Finland and Russia.

Yeah, I was actually going to ask about that, how does the boreal system of for example, Lappeenranta region, differ from the area around Viborg? They are about 40 km apart, except that there is a border crossing between them.

I could understand if, for example, the Karelian lakes would cause the boreal system to go from one to another.

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Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

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Soviet Commubot: Oct 22, 2008

Russian invasion in Georgia isn't a terrible joke.

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majormonotone: Jan 25, 2013

New York is 100% accurate

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ComradeCosmobot: Dec 4, 2004; USPOL July

majormonotone posted:

New York is 100% accurate

I like Florida myself. Although I am also a fan of Pennsylvania's.

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Vorpal Cat: Mar 19, 2009; Oh god what did I just post?

Can confirm Vermont, not so sure about New Hampshire, it probably more likely to be meth related then pot. As for Massachusetts they wish, it would justify all the fuss they make whenever a new one gos up.

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Peanut President: Nov 5, 2008; by Athanatos
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Guavanaut posted:

It's true, no one dies in Indiana. Just a horrible existence forever.

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wdarkk: Oct 26, 2007; Friends: Protected
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My question is, which of those is the most metal way to die? I'll go with antimatter. Biggest boom for your buck.

# ? Jul 30, 2015 19:43

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

ComradeCosmobot posted:

I like Florida myself. Although I am also a fan of Pennsylvania's.

Florida one seems the most accurate. Not sure that THEY are covering that up though, when you look at every headline that begins with 'Florida Man...'

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TheImmigrant: Jan 18, 2011

wdarkk posted:

My question is, which of those is the most metal way to die? I'll go with antimatter. Biggest boom for your buck.

Electrocution.

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TheImmigrant posted:

Electrocution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YYZcpMk8qo :black101:

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dublish: Oct 31, 2011

Looks to me like Texas is the best state.

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QuoProQuid: Jan 12, 2012; Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

First map of the United States drawn and printed within the United States. It's creator, Abel Buell, was a known counterfeiter and copier. The map has literally no new cartographic information in it and is based on maps produced in Europe around the time.

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computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

dublish posted:

Looks to me like Texas is the best state.

Dakotas are pretty cool too.

And Iowa. :lol:

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cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

QuoProQuid posted:

First map of the United States drawn and printed within the United States. It's creator, Abel Buell, was a known counterfeiter and copier. The map has literally no new cartographic information in it and is based on maps produced in Europe around the time.

Reminds me of eagle a bit.

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