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Grey Area posted:edit: It seems strange that Portugal is on the sub side. Are Brazilian dubs not available or unacceptable to the Portuguese? It's an odd legacy left from the fascist regime. Dubbing was a big thing when it came to our shores in the late 30's, but the costs and technical hurdles made the process too expensive, then Salazar in the late 40's killed it all together with a law. Basically the law forbade the exhibition of foreign funded films to be dubbed with the Portuguese language(Unless it was a film made in Brazil) The only exceptions were foreign films that had Portugal or a Portuguese character in relevance. But the real aim of the law was that due to the low literacy numbers, most Portuguese didn't know how to read, so they wouldn't go watch foreign films at all, which pleased the regime a lot. The first Portuguese(Pt-Pt) dub of a foreign film was in 1994 with The Lion King, and most children films nowadays are dubbed, but with no industry or tradition, dubbing never really caught on. Even during the the last decade there was a lot of children shows that came dubbed in Spanish(Portuguese subs of course), cause there simply wasn't enough people to do all the shows.
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skipThings posted:Oh Brandenburg Algarve is the third least poor region of Portugal, second being Madeira, and first Lisbon. The correct answer is tourists. But the Algarve has been for quite some time the most crime filled region in Portugal(which doesn't really mean much considering everything). The major crimes in the Algarve has always been theft and kidnapping, so homicide rate being that high is kinda surprising. I was trying to find the numbers, but I just find rates for "grave and violent crimes" which is shorthand for Portuguese officials blending murders, brutal theft, kidnapping all in the same bag.
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KoldPT posted:
Doubles as economical growth too!
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made of bees posted:Reminds me of the Estado Novo argument that Portugal is a single nation-state that happens to be on multiple continents and totally not a colonial empire you guys: Yup this was a thing, and it went beyond just land. Angola, Mozambique, Macau, and so on, were all considered Portugal. This is used by fascist apologizes and Salazar groupies to claim that our fascism(and white Portuguese) was not racist and in fact benevolent towards all those black(and chinese) people. They were upgraded from African to Portuguese, by virtue of living in the Empire. Of course it was all bullshit. Estado Novo kept and enforced Native laws well into the late 50's when international pressure started to mount. Even after it dropped, "promotion" was a rare case. This ended up that in the colonies, pretty much the entire bureaucracy and civil service was run by white Portuguese that came from Portugal. Estado Novo wanted to keep the native population completely illiterate(even more than the poor from Portugal), and far away from the gears of state, to prevent cases like India, or even worse, Algeria. Didn't really help out in the end. The result was that when white Portuguese were recalled back to the homeland after the fall of the regime, the system shock left Angola and Mozambique without a real capable administration and everything went to poo poo the moment the independence spirit died down. Angola managed to piece itself back together(with means that are entirely debatable) while Mozambique still lives in a bizarre state of working/failed state.
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SaltyJesus posted:Don't forget that Andalusia and Galicia, the other orangeish-reddish areas, are not entirely happy with Madrid either. Nobody in Spain wants to be Spanish, is a well known fact in Iberia.
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waitwhatno posted:What's going on in Portugal? I assume the number for the Netherlands is so high because the Dutch language is more or less German, but with a throat infection inspired pronunciation. Shouldn't Portuguese people be able to understand Spanish? When Portuguese say they can speak Spanish they mean they fill every other word with L's/N's and call it Spanish. When Portuguese say they can understand Spanish, they usually mean TV Spanish, where it's usually spoken slowly and more deliberatley. You really need a trained ear and some actual basic knowledge of how the language works to get anywhere, and most folk simply don't, yet everyone thinks if you know one you know the other, including Portuguese/Spanish speakers. Also Russian and similar slavic languages sound a lot more like Portuguese than Spanish does, even though it's world aparts. Romenian too I heard.
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Badger of Basra posted:I don't know how the administration worked, but the Portuguese court did have to move to Rio and they changed from the Kingdom of Portugal to the United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil, and the Algarves. One of them didn't feel like going back once Napoleon was defeated and he became the first emperor of Brazil.  When Napoleon invaded, King John VI did the brave thing and fled from Portugal and hid in Brazil. However he really liked Brazil better than Portugal, so decided to just stay there and elevated the colony to a full kingdom along side Portugal and Algarve, and at the behest of several rich Portuguese colonists in Brazil that didn't want to keep having to pay tariffs and taxes when the king lived there. There was a liberal revolution in 1920 in Portugal and nobles thought that this Portuguese United Kingdom was some dumb poo poo and told the king to come back to Lisbon and sign a new constitution that demoted Brazil back to a colony. This didn't go well with the new elevated nobles in Brazilian rich men(note white Portuguese living in Brazil) and had John VI son, Pedro the Regent of Brazil, made Emperor. There was a brief war, that the Portuguese bungled, and in 1822 they became a de facto independent state. Some years later Pedro came back to Portugal during the Liberal and Absolutist civil wars, was briefly King of Portugal then died and the kingdoms were never united again. Electronico6 fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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Orange Devil posted:Actually I just checked your GDP and debt levels and about that whole white thing... For these last years we've managed to trick those morons in Brussels and Berlin that we were European but I think they're catching up on the ruse.
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