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Creating a thread so it doesn't clog up the General Questions thread. Background: I have been entrusted to sell my father's rather large gun collection for him, which is being given to me through an intrafamilial transfer with the DOJ. I am a rather casual firearms enthusiast, I've been around and fired them for my whole life and my dad used to shoot competitively/work in a gun shop when I was young. However, I've never been one of those people who can rattle off models or knows a lot of the technical aspects of the guns, thus I'm pretty unfamiliar with their monetary worth. I investigated a few of the local gun shops and felt very uncomfortable; lot's of creepy (and potentially racist!) old dudes treating me like I was dumb (I'm a woman in my 20's.) I live in Oakland CA so there are far fewer options for shops/dealers than I am accustomed to growing up out in the boonies. I will probably end up keeping a few of the guns myself and have friends who are interested in buying them and I am not interested in consigning at any of the local shops, I will just find a FFL to do the transfer for me when the time comes. Folks were very kind and offered to help me get an approximate value of the firearms, so I will be posting photos and descriptions of them in small groups to keep it manageable. There are about four dozen total. There's some neat/rare things in here, so it might also be interesting gunporn for some goons as well. I am not attempting to sell them over the forums and it will be a few weeks (I'm assuming) to get all of the paperwork in order. As I said before, I have friends interested in most of them depending on the price I name but if you'd like to PM me to get dibs if one of those falls through, I don't mind, but all chat in that vein will be on backchannels. Please don't clog the thread. Here's the first photo dump: Rock Island Armory .45 m1911 - never fired   Smith & Wesson .357 seven round revolver - short barrel, 3.5in, silver with black handle   Smith & Wesson .357 seven round revolver - short barrel, 3.5in, black with wood handle  Smith & Wesson .357 seven round revolver - long barrel, 5in, black with wood handle  Smith & Wesson .38 Special, five round S&W8PL  I'll try to answer any questions or clarifications to the best of my abilities. I'm using an iphone 4 for the photos, but let me know if you need more angles or there's a better way to take the photos. Thanks! E: Weird, I thought I selected an icon. Could a mod be kind enough to change it for me?
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| # ? Feb 2, 2013 20:44 |
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:Smith & Wesson .357 seven round revolver - short barrel, 3.5in, silver with black handle Beige carpet, toes in picture, you'll fit in well here! 
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| # ? Feb 2, 2013 20:52 |
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Bummey posted:Beige carpet, toes in picture, you'll fit in well here! Ha! I thought about editing them out, but I was like "eh, effort. At least I've got a pedicure."
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| # ? Feb 2, 2013 21:04 |
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Is the gyrojet really gold plated or was that just the white balance being off?
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spankmeister posted:Is the gyrojet really gold plated or was that just the white balance being off? That's its actual color, no filter or anything used on the photo. I don't know if it's actually like, gold the precious metal, or "a gold colored metal" but that's what it looks like.
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| # ? Feb 2, 2013 21:12 |
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Where the hell is the gold plated gyrojet. Tell me!
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Those are 4 and 6 inch barrels, scribbletoes.
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 Ha, thanks, I wasn't sure where to measure from.
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I was thinking your dad had a pretty practical, single-track method to his gun collecting but then I see he polished off his collection with the single most esoteric and impractical handgun imaginable. He sounds like a cool dude.
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:
I'm going to recommened you take the weirder stuff to get appraised by a serious gun dealer. Mike Krause of Krausewerk in San Mateo would be highly recommened since he deals with wacky guns all the time. Edit: He's a smith who just happens to be a dealer also and I've never known for him or his help to be racist/jerks/creepers. Good chance your father may have known him too. LingcodKilla fucked around with this message at Feb 2, 2013 around 21:49 |
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Quickshanks posted:I was thinking your dad had a pretty practical, single-track method to his gun collecting but then I see he polished off his collection with the single most esoteric and impractical handgun imaginable. My dad is seriously a really loving cool dude. I need to get some of his stories recorded, he's lead a really cool life and is the one who inspired me to always take the weirdest job you can get, because the stories you have from it will be loving awesome. He's completely out of his mind. LingcodKilla posted:I'm going to recommened you take the weirder stuff to get appraised by a serious gun dealer. Mike Krause of Krausewerk in San Mateo would be highly recommened since he deals with wacky guns all the time. Very cool, thanks. I'm planning to keep the gyrojet unless someone makes me an insane offer or something like that, but I'd definitely like to get it appraised and find out like, what the hell it is and get it insured. For comedy, look up the reviews for Old West Guns in El Cerrito on google... dude is rated like 8/30 and almost every review talks about him being a dick and racist. Someone recommended a spot in Castro Valley I'm going to drive and check out probably Monday.
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:My dad is seriously a really loving cool dude. I need to get some of his stories recorded, he's lead a really cool life and is the one who inspired me to always take the weirdest job you can get, because the stories you have from it will be loving awesome. He's completely out of his mind. The Castro Valley store doesnt hold a candle compared to Krausewerk. Mike has had gyrojets in his inventory before and knows more gun knowledge in his finger nail clippings than the average gun store owner. Tell him your casual acquaintance Mr. Zutler said you may be able to help with appraisals for a family collection you are not interested in selling but for insurance reasons.
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Second photodump! North American Arms .22 Magnum six round revolver - tiny  Sorry, it's really difficult to get the engraving to come out clear in photographing that one. Scroll down for size comparison. Cobra Model CB38 Cal 38 SPCL  Motley Crue cassette for size  Glock 17 9x19  Smith & Wesson SW1911 45 Auto  Kimber Stainless Target II 9mm   E: I can't stop laughing at this photo from this morning of my dog snoring SO LOUD this morning with his neck at a ridiculous angle. 
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I like your dad's taste in guns and your taste in 80's hair metal bands. If you want to take pretty decent pictures with your iPhone you may want to look into building your own light box.
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| # ? Feb 2, 2013 22:13 |
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:Smith & Wesson .38 Special, five round S&W8PL Can you get a model number off this revolver? When you open the cylinder, look in the groove in the frame where the cylinder crane would sit—it'll be right under the barrel. Should say something like MOD 36 or MOD 37. If it doesn't say MOD anything, it'll be a pre-# Smith & Wesson revolver (most likely the Chief's Special) and will alter its value accordingly (up, generally speaking).
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SadWhaleFamily posted:Can you get a model number off this revolver? When you open the cylinder, look in the groove in the frame where the cylinder crane would sit—it'll be right under the barrel. Should say something like MOD 36 or MOD 37. MOD 36. Whats with everyone's pony avatars?
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:MOD 36.
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SadWhaleFamily posted:Can you get a model number off this revolver? When you open the cylinder, look in the groove in the frame where the cylinder crane would sit—it'll be right under the barrel. Should say something like MOD 36 or MOD 37. I would do this for all the Smith & Wesson revolvers. Anyway I know I posted some slightly higher than average prices for the guns when you first posted the list. I think you could get that kind of money so if someone utterly low balls you I would tell them to get lost. You are in California? I would double check what are your local laws with shipping guns out of state OR even within the state. California seems to have laws designed to mess with people. The actual cost for shipping a firearm is pretty low, think double digits starting from $20 so don't think of that as being prohibitive. The transfer and shipping costs are obviously then upon the buyer and you really have less effort in a sense compared to meeting a buyer in person sinc you are selling so many and you could be dropping them off at the shipping office at one time.... Also if a gun has a magazine that comes with it, I would list the ammunition capacity and how many magazines you have. Paper manuals and original boxes also increase value. You could also consider posting a Classified ad on Calguns. You might have a buyer next door for all you know
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:MOD 36. A mystery person/group of people started buying pony avatars for everyone two years? back. A lot of money was spent making sure that the pony avatars came back if people tried to change them. That's about it.
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3rd photo dump: Ruger Vaqueros 45.cal six round revolvers   Springfield XD 45 ACP - I'm pretty sure this has never or has barely been fired... like, if it has, it was to test at the range. Entire box with all original packaging... the chain lock thing is still in plastic wrap.   Ruger .22cal long rifle mark II target competition target model - unique wood grip?   Glock 26 9x19  Ruger Security Six .357 six round revolver  
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:MOD 36. The forum has a mystical brony avatar fairy, that seemingly at random, decides to bless TFR residents with the gift of ponytars. Gtab (a once common but controversial poster) was once gifted with a hand-drawn ponytar, that to this day stands out as the most disturbing thing I have ever seen. It was like staring into the depths of space, and having it stare back. Also, this: spankmeister posted:We're all flaming homosexual liberal brony animu lovers. Can't you tell?
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Insane Totoro posted:I would do this for all the Smith & Wesson revolvers. I think you're right in that it's California and everything here is so silly. These are all for sure legal in CA or grandfathered in because they were purchased before the law changed (investigating whether grandfathering in applies with intrafamilial transfer, but I think that it does. Pops is an attorney and looking it up.) Between panic and what seems to be a scarcity (or perceived scarcity) I'm going to push for higher prices. A lot of my friends who are interested are tattooers who I may do partial trade for tattoo time with, so the higher the monetary value at the moment is something they're likely to be okay with. I have two huge boxes of accessories and extra magazines, paper work, etc. I need to go through and match everything up... and a giant trash bag of cases, belts, etc. its kind of a nightmare.
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:E: I can't stop laughing at this photo from this morning of my dog snoring SO LOUD this morning with his neck at a ridiculous angle. I want your dag. I bet he slobbers everywhere. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_ATxfEuLU
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Android Bicyclist posted:I like your dad's taste in guns and your taste in 80's hair metal bands. This is a good post. Motley Crue rules. Also this thread rules, and you rule.
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:I think you're right in that it's California and everything here is so silly. These are all for sure legal in CA or grandfathered in because they were purchased before the law changed (investigating whether grandfathering in applies with intrafamilial transfer, but I think that it does. Pops is an attorney and looking it up.) Between panic and what seems to be a scarcity (or perceived scarcity) I'm going to push for higher prices. A lot of my friends who are interested are tattooers who I may do partial trade for tattoo time with, so the higher the monetary value at the moment is something they're likely to be okay with. You cant transferr high cap (10+) magazines and "assault" weapons. So far I havnt seen anything that could be a problem. Also... you should come shooting with me and Zen... want to touch those revolvers. I'd offer to help sort stuff but if your pops is still around he should be able to help more. LingcodKilla fucked around with this message at Feb 2, 2013 around 23:03 |
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TATPants posted:I want your dag. I bet he slobbers everywhere. He's actual not much a slobberer, but when he's sleeping he tends to be really loving silly.  his dogbed and pile of blankets/bones is a good 25% of my living room.  ...aaaaaaand he thinks he's a people. Look at those silly rear end chicken legs.
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:dog pics You have one excellent looking dog. If you want lots of "awwwwwws" then look no further than this. Pregnant rescue turns out to have the motherload of cute pups. Anyways, I think your collection is beyond awesome and I can't wait to see what else you have in that grab bag of excellence.
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I like that Ruger Mk2. Does anyone know if that is a fairly common model or something special?
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I'm glad this thread happened, I'm glad these pics were posted. I feel like that Ruger Mark II is worth more in CA because it doesn't have the stupid marking on it warning about now being a toy or a load chamber indicator. I feel like I shouldn't tell you that because I loving WANT THAT GUN. Insane Tortotoro said 500 USD I think.
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Forget the guns, post more dog pictures!
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Alright well you're lucky I'm both bored and a nerd. I put together a spreadsheet : https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwI...EZrS3B1MU0/edit I found pretty much all the guns as specifically as I was able on calguns - restricted mostly to things that sold and threw in a few sold gunbroker auctions for good measure. I also tried to keep references to guns sold in the past 2 or so years. Typical rule of thumb when selling on Calguns at least is to start your asking price $100 more than you actually want. I adjusted most of the asking prices towards the high side as you said - some additional details like specific model #s on the S&W revolvers would make it easier. As for laws here - few in-state FFLs will allow you to ship to them as a private individual, the only ones I'm familiar with are up here in the Bay Area already. In addition, the pistols would have to be on the drop list in order to be shipped to someone in state. Private party transactions are exempt from the drop list - there is some kind of reference on the books to only selling 6 handguns in PPTs per year but I don't think it is enforced. Shipping out of state should pose few legal hassles but I would pretty much guarantee that selling to local Californians is going to be both the most profitable and easiest way to get rid of guns you don't want - it may just take awhile. With the exception of your Glocks, most of what you have posted so far isn't really affected all that much by current panic pricing. If you are going to schedule to meet people to sell guns out here, I'd recommend City Arms East in Pleasant Hill, Reed's in Santa Clara, RMB Enterprises in Milpitas and Highbridge Arms in San Francisco. Avoid Old West Gun in Albany and Target Masters West in Milpitas - those are the two worst places to do private party transfers in the Bay Area. If I remember I'll try and update that google doc as you post more guns/info.
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Well put it this way, I don't think the CA legal "modern" guns would sell well outside CA. I am sure that Glock comes with ten round magazines, for example. The guns that "only Californians want to own" I would sell in-state. The rest I think are uncommon enough that outside of CA people would pay a premium to have them shipped to them.
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One thing you can say about gun collectors in CA, on average, is that they have a lot of money. Uncommon items sell well here and, especially pistols that are off drop list, will typically command $100+ above national market price.
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I want one of those 1911's so bad my dick hurts.
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PureEvil6_13 posted:I want one of those 1911's so bad my penis hurts. Let's keep a modicum of respect here
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TATPants posted:Let's keep a modicum of respect here My apologies. The Kimber, to be exact.
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Yeah that seems about right.
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ZenMastaT posted:Highbridge Arms in San Francisco.
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I'll give you ten bucks for the dog. ZenMastaT is going up the right alley. Finished auctions on Gunbroker are a good gauge. We've also got at least a few people here who have a copy of the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson a fairly comprehensive guide to some of the stranger and older models. Pretty much everything in here except for the gold plated gyrojet and hilarious palm-sized guns are very much working guns. You're going to see a bit of stuff like depreciation and all that other poo poo, but guns "bottom out" waaay higher than a lot of things -- like a quarter of their retail value for an extremely used model. It's not like a car and nowhere near like electronics. If you enjoy shooting, I'd seriously consider making an offer yourself on some of them. The MkII in particular is something you could very wisely hang on to for the rest of your life if you continue to enjoy shooting. Also, there will be dick jokes, brokedicks, and brokedicks making dick jokes in this subforum. For everyone who does not like dick jokes, I will make two and they will be even worse.
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