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nickmeister
Apr 7, 2009

Today's Journalist


Previous LP's: Hitman: Blood Money (2012)

Latest Update: 5/6/2013: Part 16: "Release Therapy"



Manhunt 2 is a disappointing sequel to the 2003 murder simulator known as Manhunt! It’s billed as a stealth/horror game, but it’s really more of a “sneak up and kill ‘em, then run away from their friends” game. Simply put, Manhunt 2 traded in solid gameplay for a tired script, and decent level design for long shootouts down narrow corridors.

But what Manhunt 2 lacked in quality, it made up for in controversy and depravity. Its initial release was delayed upon receiving the dreaded AO rating (adults only) due to its disgusting content. An AO rating is death for a game, because it means it can’t be published by Sony or Nintendo. As a result, the game was quickly edited to help it squeak by on an “M” rating.

Unfortunately, the censorship took an already underwhelming game and filed its teeth down. My original PS2 copy of the game featured flashes of red, white, and black that made following the action at key points nearly impossible. Fortunately for us, I’ll be playing the PC version, so we’ll be able to see all the nasty parts crystal clear.

I know I’m supposed to be selling you on this game, but I’ll be honest: it’s a crappy game. And yet, isn’t the bad games that make the best Let’s Plays? There’s something I find… “charming” about Manhunt 2. Maybe you will, too?

For those with weak stomachs, turn back! Let’s Play Manhunt 2!

NO SPOILERS!!!!

I know anyone who's actually WATCHING the vids rather than working in Photoshop (it's okay, that's what I do) will see the "twist" coming from a mile away, but please, no spoilers! Thanks!






















nickmeister fucked around with this message at May 6, 2013 around 21:44

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nickmeister
Apr 7, 2009

Today's Journalist


My way of apologizing:








nickmeister fucked around with this message at May 5, 2013 around 20:45

SimianNinja
Mar 11, 2007

"You've killed me!"
"Good."

I've always wanted to see (and also didn't want to see ) this LP'ed; cool!
This may be a stupid question, but are you going to show every execution level for every weapon eventually? I have confidence in your psychopathy, but my OCD alarm triggered in that first video...

Have you played the Wii version, as well? I can only imagine what motion controls would add to the experience, though I guess it would still just end up being gimmicky repetitive waggling. MotionPlus, anybody?

SimianNinja fucked around with this message at Feb 3, 2013 around 19:24

ChaoticGood
May 7, 2010


You could follow this up with an uncensored version of The Punisher...

David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012


What's your stance on spoilers?
I ask because I'm pretty sure everyone can guess the plot twist to this game if they have seen 2001: a space odyssey.

EDIT:

ChaoticGood posted:

You could follow this up with an uncensored version of The Punisher...

Somebody already did that, it's up on the archives. The gore isn't as impressive in that game, the censoring make it look more gruesome.

EDIT:
Fixed spoiler tag.

David D. Davidson fucked around with this message at Feb 4, 2013 around 02:22

JossiRossi
Jul 28, 2008

Alone in space with Bears, Cats, Robots, Lizards, Energy Entities, and some Love.


David D. Davidson posted:

What's your stance on spoilers?

Who asks about spoiler policy and then just goes ahead and uses a spoiler tag?

Deathspeak
Jan 14, 2013


I've always been morbidly curious to see what this and the first Manhunt were all about, so thanks for starting up the LP. Is alot of knowledge of the first game helpful/mandatory to understand the plot of this one?

Samuel
Nov 5, 2011


Could you do this game as Pure as possible? Ghosting and no killing? It'd be sweet to see the game played as the anti-psychopath.

Crane Fist
Jun 5, 2012

HEY, DID YOU HEAR THE MAYOR'S ILL?

HE'S GOT AIDES!

ALSO I ATE YOUR DOG


Samuel posted:

Could you do this game as Pure as possible? Ghosting and no killing? It'd be sweet to see the game played as the anti-psychopath.

If by 'sweet' you mean 'incredibly boring' then yeah good point

nickmeister
Apr 7, 2009

Today's Journalist


SimianNinja posted:

I've always wanted to see (and also didn't want to see ) this LP'ed; cool!
This may be a stupid question, but are you going to show every execution level for every weapon eventually? I have confidence in your psychopathy, but my OCD alarm triggered in that first video...

Have you played the Wii version, as well? I can only imagine what motion controls would add to the experience, though I guess it would still just end up being gimmicky repetitive waggling. MotionPlus, anybody?

I'm not sure if I'll be doing EVERY execution. I'll probably just stick to the ones I think are cool. There are already SOOO many videos out there featuring all the executions (although you might want to hold off watching those until the end of LP. Spoilers, I guess?). I was annoyed at myself for doing the lvl 2 syringe execution twice, though! LOL.

As for the Wii version, I haven't played it -- but the PC version is very close to it. I think I mentioned it in the vid, but there is an option to turn on "interactive executions", which in the PC version means moving the mouse up and down or side to side. Maybe I'll turn it on for the next video to show it off. Personally, I don't like it!


ChaoticGood posted:

You could follow this up with an uncensored version of The Punisher...

Actually, I've always been interested in this game. Does it run on Windows 7?


David D. Davidson posted:

What's your stance on spoilers?
I ask because I'm pretty sure everyone can guess the plot twist to this game if

Spoilers policy added to the OP. No spoilers (even though many of you will see it coming from a mile away!).


Deathspeak posted:

I've always been morbidly curious to see what this and the first Manhunt were all about, so thanks for starting up the LP. Is alot of knowledge of the first game helpful/mandatory to understand the plot of this one?

First of all, Manhunt 2 and Manhunt 1 are in NO WAY connected. The only thing that relates the two are the game mechanics (although Manhunt 2 mucks them up pretty badly as you'll soon see!). The first Manhunt is a decent game, if you aren't turned off by the gore. Unfortunately, it won't run on Windows 7, and the fanmade patch doesn't work for me.


Samuel posted:

Could you do this game as Pure as possible? Ghosting and no killing? It'd be sweet to see the game played as the anti-psychopath.

First of all, that completely defeats the purpose of Manhunt! LOL. Second, this game pretty much forces you to be a sociopath. You'll see.

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Hampooj
Jul 26, 2010


This is certainly a game. I always wondered what these were like but never got to try them, now I see I didn't really miss much more than a gratuitous murder simulator.

I am kind of curious as to what exactly the orderly says that's a spoiler. I'm pretty sure I can guess what he spoils, but I'm not too sure what he'd say. Then again I could be totally off and this game is actually really deep and complex and has a beautiful intricate storyline and

100Dachshunds
Oct 11, 2009

Help they're in my house they're gonna eat me sweet jesus


Angsty teen me had tons of fun with Manhunt 1, but I never touched the sequel. I'm looking forward to seeing what I missed!

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

What is fun
Baby don't hurt me
Don't hurt me
No more


All I remember hearing about this game was the controversy, and then it vanished. I had no idea it was such a piece of crap too.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

Gentlemen, welcome to SA.

Now vote this thread 5, or pay the price of insubordination!


The devs really hated testicles, huh? Let's Play Manhunt 2

Deadmeat5150 posted:

All I remember hearing about this game was the controversy, and then it vanished. I had no idea it was such a piece of crap too.

I'll be honest, the first Manhunt was a surprisingly tense game. It was bullshit hard at times, but when it got things right, it was drat good. Think of this as the straight-to-video sequel as designed by The Asylum. I was interested in it when one of my friends 'acquired' the uncut version for the PS2 back in the day, but we both got pretty bored of it pretty quickly. There's one execution in the game that still makes me wince though. I'm sure it'll get a few... interesting reactions when it shows up.

Samuel
Nov 5, 2011


Crane Fist posted:

If by 'sweet' you mean 'incredibly boring' then yeah good point

If by incredibly boring you mean tense, then thank you!
But in all seriousness, I can see a game like manhunt not living up to scratch and reward of actual sneaky games. (which are not boring!)

Crane Fist
Jun 5, 2012

HEY, DID YOU HEAR THE MAYOR'S ILL?

HE'S GOT AIDES!

ALSO I ATE YOUR DOG


Samuel posted:

If by incredibly boring you mean tense, then thank you!
But in all seriousness, I can see a game like manhunt not living up to scratch and reward of actual sneaky games. (which are not boring!)

No, I really do mean boring. This game is not designed in a way that rewards stealth or even really allows the possibility and trying to avoid killing anyone means a whole load of waiting around in the shadows knocking on walls and would just be horrible to watch

ChaoticGood
May 7, 2010


David D. Davidson posted:


Somebody already did that, it's up on the archives. The gore isn't as impressive in that game, the censoring make it look more gruesome.

EDIT:
Fixed spoiler tag.

I have missed that, I have to check it out. Although I've played the console version so it probably not worth it to watch the whole thing...

I don't know if it works on Win 7, but it's actually a pretty good game. It also has some interesting takes on different Marvel characters, many of which can be quite surprising, since you might expect the game to be based on the movie and it isn't really...

Kavingi
Jul 4, 2005
Deepwater, ahoy!

Crane Fist posted:

No, I really do mean boring. This game is not designed in a way that rewards stealth or even really allows the possibility and trying to avoid killing anyone means a whole load of waiting around in the shadows knocking on walls and would just be horrible to watch

There's this, and even games that are intended with stealth in mind can be really god damned boring to watch played with only stealth. There's usually a lot of sitting around and waiting. It's not tense unless you're the one playing it, you have to be interacting with the game rather than just watching it for it to be tense.

Lotish
Dec 10, 2008

I pick up my Devil Axe...
...and DEVIL!


Ah, this game. I was really looking forward to this game. Then it got delayed to hell and back because of the controversy. And then I played it. I was a little put out.

I'm hard pressed to describe why I liked the first Manhunt as much as I did, but the concept had novelty, and having the director's voice growling in your ear most of the game just elevated the experience. It makes a great thriller. This...just doesn't measure up for me.

nickmeister
Apr 7, 2009

Today's Journalist


Crane Fist posted:

No, I really do mean boring. This game is not designed in a way that rewards stealth or even really allows the possibility and trying to avoid killing anyone means a whole load of waiting around in the shadows knocking on walls and would just be horrible to watch

That's why I said the game is BILLED as a stealth/horror game. The whole point of stealth in Manhunt 2 is to murder people in extravagant ways. The game does give you tools a proper stealth game would, but enemies turn around randomly, Danny moves slowly and makes A LOT of noise when he runs.Staying undetected instead of killing then sprinting away is hard.

I'll do my best, but I'm not making any promises!

Lotish posted:

Ah, this game. I was really looking forward to this game. Then it got delayed to hell and back because of the controversy. And then I played it. I was a little put out.

I'm hard pressed to describe why I liked the first Manhunt as much as I did, but the concept had novelty, and having the director's voice growling in your ear most of the game just elevated the experience. It makes a great thriller. This...just doesn't measure up for me.

This game forgets it's a horror game as often as it forgets it's a stealth game.

nickmeister
Apr 7, 2009

Today's Journalist


UPDATE!!!!!


Part Two, "Ghosts"


In this episode, we learn who that other guy is! Also, drugs! And more violence!

(Should be up in about forty minutes)

Hampooj
Jul 26, 2010


Even the internet seems unsure what the gently caress to do to get style points, but from what I've found people seem to think it's probably the same as in Manhunt 1.


-1 star for playing on hardcore difficulty
-1 star for completing the mission under the time limit requirement
-3 stars for the style (number of executions and the level of violence of them)

So it would seem that since you're playing on sane, the most you'll ever be able to get is 4/5. So I guess you need to do a lot of different level 3 type executions on each level, finish it in good time, and do it on insane mode.

This game is loving weird. I like it though, and the graphics are lovely enough that it really doesn't matter how violent the act may be, it still looks silly and doesn't bother me one bit.

Deathspeak
Jan 14, 2013


This game gives me major flashback to The Suffering. Inmate protagonist, slaughter everyone, etc. What I'm getting at is: when does Danny Hulk-out into some monstrosity that is also a killing machine? Also, that jumping shear execution

Boardroom Jimmy
Aug 20, 2006
Synergy is for faggots!

I don't know if you're gonna do an Easter egg episode at the end but this stage has quite a few creepy little extra bits peppered throughout it.

nickmeister
Apr 7, 2009

Today's Journalist


Okay, just a heads-up, I'm having some issues with my computer. It's nothing too major, but I probably won't be updating for a week or two. I know it's a drag to delay such a new LP, but there it is. See you soon!

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

My lips are sealed.

And my eyes are nearsighted.

And astigmatic.

nickmeister posted:

Okay, just a heads-up, I'm having some issues with my computer. It's nothing too major, but I probably won't be updating for a week or two. I know it's a drag to delay such a new LP, but there it is. See you soon!

OMG, he's got Jaids!

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.


Well, whenever you get back, keep going with this. It's pretty amazing so far.

It also feels like it's trying to be the elemental essence of what everyone wants to ban in video games. Gesture-controlled blood-soaked murders and constant screamer cuts that I'm pretty sure are flashing HATE at the front and center of the screen.

azren
Feb 13, 2011


Glazius posted:

Well, whenever you get back, keep going with this. It's pretty amazing so far.

It also feels like it's trying to be the elemental essence of what everyone wants to ban in video games. Gesture-controlled blood-soaked murders and constant screamer cuts that I'm pretty sure are flashing HATE at the front and center of the screen.

I dunno, it hasn't got any tits. At least not yet.

Tewratomeh
Feb 17, 2007



Yeah, what you said in the video about "sympathetic characters" is what put me off of Manhunt 2 compared to the first. In the first game, you play a deathrow convict who's released in order to brutally torture and murder absolutely loathesome people in the Bad Part of Town (and it's clear they're going to kill or do bad things to you if you don't... you're basically still a prisoner). In the second, you play a milquetoast guy who was apparently part of some Mysterious Project that turns him "into a killer" despite the fact that he protests every step of the way. The people you're killing seem to be hunting you down because you're dangerous, and don't seem to be all that bad otherwise.

In fact, the game gets more ridiculous with who you're killing as it goes on. There's one part of the game where you're killing people who pretty much deserve it, beyond that the murdering really seems out of place and out of character for the main protagonist.

nickmeister
Apr 7, 2009

Today's Journalist



Never mind, I'm hosed. Counted my chicks before they hatched.

nickmeister fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2013 around 03:02

nickmeister
Apr 7, 2009

Today's Journalist


Update!!!!!



Part 3: "Sexual Deviants"


Not one of my favorite levels, this one can be kind of a slog. But we're introduced to a new element in Manhunt 2 that could've have made this game even more brutal than the last, if it wasn't developed by an incompetent team!

azren
Feb 13, 2011


What with the one-on-one torture rooms, that felt a lot more like Hostel than Saw.

Also, drat that dental execution was brutal.

nickmeister
Apr 7, 2009

Today's Journalist


azren posted:

What with the one-on-one torture rooms, that felt a lot more like Hostel than Saw.

Also, drat that dental execution was brutal.

Actually, it reminded a little of a "Beat" Takeshi movie I saw recently called Outrage. There's a scene where a yakuza is getting his teeth cleaned when a rival boss walks in on him and does a number on his mouth with the tools available. And he lives!

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010


nickmeister posted:

Actually, it reminded a little of a "Beat" Takeshi movie I saw recently called Outrage. There's a scene where a yakuza is getting his teeth cleaned when a rival boss walks in on him and does a number on his mouth with the tools available. And he lives!

And he goes on to become Jaws in the James Bond movies.

A Perfect Twist
Aug 15, 2007

"What have I done? I'll have to start again. To forget and to disappear. I'll head north, far-north, to that big question mark, the Northern Territory"

I played the original Manhunt which was okay but really repetitive and gross. I'm glad to see that the series went down the drain. The subject matter was too exploitative

Anatharon
Aug 6, 2010



Kaboom Dragoon posted:

The devs really hated testicles, huh? Let's Play Manhunt 2


I'll be honest, the first Manhunt was a surprisingly tense game. It was bullshit hard at times, but when it got things right, it was drat good. Think of this as the straight-to-video sequel as designed by The Asylum. I was interested in it when one of my friends 'acquired' the uncut version for the PS2 back in the day, but we both got pretty bored of it pretty quickly. There's one execution in the game that still makes me wince though. I'm sure it'll get a few... interesting reactions when it shows up.

Not that I want you to describe it, but which weapon/brutality level?

I enjoy a nice, terrible game now and then and Manhunt sure fits the bill.

Tewratomeh
Feb 17, 2007



You know, I can't say I really blame GameFly for not taking Manhunt 2 from D2D. It's just straight-up not a good game, and I can't imagine many people champing at the bit for a chance to play Manhunt 2 who haven't already played it.

What I would like to see though is a properly-done HD upgrade for Manhunt. Like if Rockstar ported Manhunt to their new engine, or at least up to Bully: Scholarship Edition quality (minus all the bugs and performance issues). Manhunt was depressing and daunting as hell to play through with all the grime and grittiness, but underneath all that I thought it was a genuinely good game that was well worth playing.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

Gentlemen, welcome to SA.

Now vote this thread 5, or pay the price of insubordination!


Anatharon posted:

Not that I want you to describe it, but which weapon/brutality level?

I enjoy a nice, terrible game now and then and Manhunt sure fits the bill.

Pliers. Any level, really, but especially the third.

I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

nickmeister
Apr 7, 2009

Today's Journalist


Tewratomeh posted:

You know, I can't say I really blame GameFly for not taking Manhunt 2 from D2D. It's just straight-up not a good game, and I can't imagine many people champing at the bit for a chance to play Manhunt 2 who haven't already played it.

What I would like to see though is a properly-done HD upgrade for Manhunt. Like if Rockstar ported Manhunt to their new engine, or at least up to Bully: Scholarship Edition quality (minus all the bugs and performance issues). Manhunt was depressing and daunting as hell to play through with all the grime and grittiness, but underneath all that I thought it was a genuinely good game that was well worth playing.

I understand why they aren't selling it, but I had the drat thing taken away from me!

The first Manhunt was decent, but the stealth mechanics were sub par. Too bad it doesn't run on windows 7.

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Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!


The disinterested tone you're taking for most of the time would normally be really boring, but juxtaposed with the grisly, grim violence in Manhunt 2 it's actually pretty entertaining. God, what a lovely game.

I found the little puzzles in this stage pretty hilarious, from the blatantly out-of-place and obvious videogame mechanic of weighted floorplates being used to open a door to the silly decapitated head puppetry Danny employs to get past the guard.

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