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MagnumOpus posted:I have been hearing that post-patch PS2 is pulling roughly 2x the amount of data down. I suspect this is a result of the increased render distance we're seeing (i.e. more/larger netcode frames). Possible source of the lag issues. Looks like this may very well be true, previously being in or around large fights my download speed for PS2 would cap out around 50 KB/s then float around 20-25, I just suicide bombed into the Crown as a fight was happening and it easily peaked 80 KB/s and is now around 35-40. These numbers may seem small or insignificant but they really make a world of difference. An Unoriginal Name fucked around with this message at Feb 3, 2013 around 20:41 |
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Giggily posted:Alright, I've done some testing just now with my useroptions.ini, and it looks like the settings Crush Boss posted work pretty great now. I did a bit of tweaking, but I'm now averaging 60 FPS in empty areas (I have my FPS limited to this, and am seeing screen tearing for the first time in PS2), and about 30-60 in medium to large scale fights. I'm sure Biolabs will still bring my computer to its knees. I used this exactly pasted into mine and my performance seemed to increase, at least for a bit. After a bit of fighting, or as the hex population increased I got the same issues as fresh deleted ini: people warping, nothing I fire registering, seeming to warp around/running into buildings and still getting shot but having no health and living for an extra 5-10 seconds in a group of enemies, etc. It doesn't seem like my FPS is dropping too much, it is some bizarre stuttering/semi-lag or something. I had none of these problems pre-patch even on my ancient PC: 1600x900 res Phenom II X4 3.2ghz Radeon HD5750 (1GB) 8GB RAM I know it isn't my connection, as every other game runs great and I'm pinging 15ms to SolTech. Guess I'll wait until SOE does something? Maybe something will be in this "nothing fires" patches. I do like seeing shitloads of assault sunderers though.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 20:39 |
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o muerte posted:I'm using a sandybridge and ati 7950, the patch gave me a significant performance boost until there were many angry mans on screen then things went to jerky slideshow hell really quickly. This is what I'm seeing, as well. FPS used to be 60-70 when no one was around, and 15-20 in fights. Now, it's ~80 when no one is around, and 15-20 in fights. So they improved it in situations where it was already good, but not when it actually needs it.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 20:40 |
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Slimy posted:This is what I'm seeing, as well. FPS used to be 60-70 when no one was around, and 15-20 in fights. Exactly. As soon as I need to start shooting something I start getting the microsrutter. Really annoying.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 20:42 |
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serewit posted:Like a waypoint. Not quite - the physical smoke shows up to all friendlies, but they don't get the corresponding waypoint on their minimap.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 20:43 |
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37MB client hotfix is out, restart PS2.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 20:44 |
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loving hell SOE, is the idea of a test server really that far out in crazy land?
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 20:59 |
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psivamp posted:Nope. I don't even know if PS2 has enough threads to use all 8 cores. PS2 claims I'm CPU-limited. Oh, balls, yeah, I worded that improperly -- I have no idea how much of my CPU it's really using. Yup PS2 only uses 2 threads maximum.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 21:11 |
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SumYungGui posted:loving hell SOE, is the idea of a test server really that far out in crazy land? No this is following the PS1 cycle exactly. They will announce a test server within a couple weeks. PS1 had the exact same issue with a couple patches that broken certain features and after that they created a test server that would host patches for about a week before deployment.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 21:12 |
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Athropos posted:Can people with beefier machines, like GTX 680s with ivybridge processors tell me if the patch improved anything performance wise? 2500K + 560 Ti. Was worse. Than I did some .ini tweeking and it got a lot better then it promptly turned into a horrible jerky mess with the FPS dropping to single digits every few seconds. Then it hard locked my operating system. edit: I should probably add that this sequence took about two hours after the .ini tweeking. BigFatFlyingBloke fucked around with this message at Feb 3, 2013 around 21:22 |
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Concurred posted:Taking bets on this hotfix fixing vehicle misfirings, but breaking something else completely unrelated!
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 21:20 |
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BigFatFlyingBloke posted:2500K + 560 Ti. Was worse. Than I did some .ini tweeking and it got a lot better then it promptly turned into a horrible jerky mess with the FPS dropping to single digits every few seconds. Then it hard locked my operating system. Hahaha oh boy. Player retention is going to be a nightmare if this keeps going. I'd gladly throw myself on the streets with a premium sub and various boosters if they could provide me with an experience with a steady 60 fps in combat. That's how badly I want to play this game in a fluid manner.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 21:20 |
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Stick100 posted:No this is following the PS1 cycle exactly. They will announce a test server within a couple weeks. PS1 had the exact same issue with a couple patches that broken certain features and after that they created a test server that would host patches for about a week before deployment. Even in loving everquest 1 they had a seperate, public Test server they would deploy patches on a week or so before rolling them out live, so they could try it with actual populations on a non-'live' server. People still played it, even though the characters got wiped every once in a while.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 21:22 |
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It seems like using vehicles makes the game go nuts with micro stutters and lag. Hopefully it'll get fixed soon, I can see some potential in the FPS I get in between stutters.
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Athropos posted:Hahaha oh boy. Player retention is going to be a nightmare if this keeps going. I'd gladly throw myself on the streets with a premium sub and various boosters if they could provide me with an experience with a steady 60 fps in combat. That's how badly I want to play this game in a fluid manner. Before the patch I was getting a steady 40+ all the time which, while not ideal, gave me no problems.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 21:24 |
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Planetside 2 is now completely unplayable for me, I still have the same MS and 60fps, but I'm getting atl east 5-6 seconds of render lag and die instantly before I even see anything thats around me. Interestingly enough though, I'm only getting this on US servers, Miller is fine. 
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 21:28 |
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Stick100 posted:Yup PS2 only uses 2 threads maximum. I don't think this is true. I have a quad core, no hyper threading and it uses all 4. I mean it's certainly not maxing them all, maybe 60-70% usage.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 21:38 |
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It is INCREDIBLY dumb that you now have no lock indicator if a missile actually gets fired at you.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 21:40 |
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Athropos posted:Hahaha oh boy. Player retention is going to be a nightmare if this keeps going. I'd gladly throw myself on the streets with a premium sub and various boosters if they could provide me with an experience with a steady 60 fps in combat. That's how badly I want to play this game in a fluid manner. Yea it is a shame because the game is goddamn magical when it runs smooth with infantry rendering. I hope they manage to have it run smooth.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 21:41 |
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ruro posted:Tanks are no longer firing blanks, but can now only travel backwards. Any attempt to move forwards causes the tank to fall through the world. Time to purchase those rear armor upgrades.  Has anyone used the Vanguard AP cannon post patch but before it stopped working? Is the velocity increase something of actual benefit at range?
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:03 |
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Mo_Steel posted:Time to purchase those rear armor upgrades. It's baller. The first thing I did when I rolled out an AP Vanguard was shoot down a nearby Liberator from full health, and then nail hailmary kills in distant sunderers parked near a tower.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:10 |
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serewit posted:Like a waypoint. Your entire faction can see it. That's the value of it over just setting squad/platoon waypoints. I use it to point out hidden Sunderers for pubbies and other Briggs VS outfits do likewise.
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Smegmatron posted:Your entire faction can see it. That's the value of it over just setting squad/platoon waypoints. I use it to point out hidden Sunderers for pubbies and other Briggs VS outfits do likewise. Well, someone lied to me, then! 
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Chance posted:I don't think this is true. I have a quad core, no hyper threading and it uses all 4. I mean it's certainly not maxing them all, maybe 60-70% usage. Yeah, looking at HWiNFO64 PS2 is at most using 4 of my 8 cores and at less than 80% each. I fail to see how this is CPU-limited. It would be amazing if they would just split off a couple more threads to take better advantage of my oct-core and those jerks with the hex-core+hex-virtual i7s.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:31 |
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ruro posted:Tanks are no longer firing blanks, but can now only travel backwards. Any attempt to move forwards causes the tank to fall through the world. I know that rolling out a big patch will never be an entirely smooth process, but holy poo poo.
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A Tartan Tory posted:Planetside 2 is now completely unplayable for me, I still have the same MS and 60fps, but I'm getting atl east 5-6 seconds of render lag and die instantly before I even see anything thats around me. I played earlier on today and it was high fps but laggy (net), I played again this afternoon after a few tiny updates and it was a slide show.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:36 |
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Gobblecoque posted:
He's joking. Tanks work fine now.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:37 |
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Kerc Kasha posted:Decided to see if the Jackhammer had been turned into a half decent weapon. It's only worse at maybe 8m and closer. If you ADS it's actually very potent past 12m since the spread is much tighter.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:37 |
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Postponing Camel posted:Heya, newbie that just started to play and I'm sticking with VS Heavy Assault for now. Should I get any upgrades for the standard LMG or buy another one straight off the bat, and if so, which one? Are you on Mattherson or Miller? Anyway, the standard gun is really good, you really don't have to upgrade. If you get bored with it the SV-88 is really good and some people love the Lasher. Upgrade your scope first, that really helps a lot. And you should consider to spend a few certs on engineer and medic, upgrade the tools a bit and get AT mines for the engi, they are incredibly useful when you really need to kill a tank/sunderer.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:40 |
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If you're certing both the Medic and Engy, put 500 certs into the medigun first. Lv5 medikit vs Lv4 medigun is light NIGHT and DAY, whereas Lv5 vs Lv4 engy tool is kind of meh. edit: Or lv6 or whatever. I'm specifically talking about the highest-certed Medigun and Engy tool.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:41 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:He's joking. Tanks work fine now. Yeah you're right, I just hopped in to test it out.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:42 |
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Martytoof posted:If you're certing both the Medic and Engy, put 500 certs into the medigun first. Lv5 medikit vs Lv4 medigun is light NIGHT and DAY, whereas Lv5 vs Lv4 engy tool is kind of meh. Seconding this. I've maxed out the repair tool when I started playing VS/Jaegar. Maxed out NC/Math for meditool. Think of the meditool maximum as an investment. It prints certs. It will always have a use. You revive people with full health, MAXes with 20%, and the revive takes barely over 1 second. It has .5 meter effect/level, too if not mistaken.(?) The repair tool is lackluster because while some of the upgrades DO increase repair rate, the majority of them only appear to increase the overheat threshold of the tool, which is nice if you're in a controlled situation but more often than not you're getting pelted by ESF rockets and need it repaired faster. It does, however, boost the range of the tool by .5 meters, so a few levels into it definitely don't hurt to have and your MAX buddies will love you, and lament your death with repeated jumps, screaming for a medic.
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Yeah it definitely has its use so if you're looking for something to spend 500 certs on then the engy tool probably isn't a BAD investment or anything, but I wish I had put those last 500 into an extended ammo pack instead or something. My Connery/TR has lv 3 or lv 4 engy tool and I've never really felt limited by it.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:50 |
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Ghetto Prince posted:Still waiting on the servers. I know this is on the first page, but Jesus Christ. That is so glorious.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:53 |
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Martytoof posted:edit: Or lv6 or whatever. I'm specifically talking about the highest-certed Medigun and Engy tool. The repair tool really seams like a raw deal after the medi gun. It really needs some kind of additional effect that can be certed up, rather than just letting you stand around for longer holding M1 instead of standing around not holding M1. Maybe if it gave a little residual repair over time, or a short term super minor armor buff. Of course since they already had a bug where they continue to repair forever I doubt anyone at soe could get this to work.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:54 |
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The medic probably gets you the best return on certs in terms of usefulness and cert generation out of all classes. A decked out medic with smoke, C4, maxed out heals/revives and revive grenades is the most versatile class in the game. You're equipped to deal with practically anything and you're also an unholy necromancer with a 4-pubbie thick wall of armor around you. You keep infantry fights going way, way longer than they should and you're also one of the best killers on the battlefield. As long as there's ammo. I have pushed entire platoons of pubbies into shitfights like TI Alloys just by firing smoke over their heads to block the spawn room blob's line of sight, screaming at them to move forward before the smoke is gone, and then reviving all of the dead pubbies at once with revive grenades so they could keep the pressure up. Level your medic, kids.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:56 |
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If you stand in firefights a lot, ammo kit for Engy also prints certs. Throw it down next to a few maxes on a tower platform and watch the +11 roll in for the next two minutes. This tends to happen even if there are already ammo packs down. Basically just throw ammo packs anywhere you see the bullet icon OR where there are two or more players standing around and you'll have more certs shortly than you started out with. Biolab fights and towers are a license to print certs with ammo packs.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:59 |
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Smegmatron posted:Level your medic, kids. Martytoof posted:Biolab fights and towers are a license to print certs with ammo packs.
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| # ? Feb 3, 2013 22:59 |
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Martytoof posted:If you stand in firefights a lot, ammo kit for Engy also prints certs. Throw it down next to a few maxes on a tower platform and watch the +11 roll in for the next two minutes. This tends to happen even if there are already ammo packs down. Basically just throw ammo packs anywhere you see the bullet icon OR where there are two or more players standing around and you'll have more certs shortly than you started out with. Also, placing ammo packs next to popular terminals immediately after you cap is a good bet for a stream of ticks as you're riding in a Sunderer to the next spot.
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If they're uncerted scrublord medics, stay medic and steal their revives with your awesome medgun so they give up and change classes to something which is more useful. Also, level the ability slot quickly. It's dirt cheap and gives you a better, renewable version of resto kits for a fraction of the cost. Even if you never heal anybody with it, it's keeping you alive while you're doing Papa Vanu's work.
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