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Couldn't decide which existing thread to drop this into, so I've made a new one. Over the last year and a half, a large joint Europol investigation has been carried out into match fixing in Europe. There's a live news conference on at the moment on the BBC for those that can view it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/21319403 Excerpts so far: Europol's investigation into suspected match-fixing has revealed that a Champions League match played in England was subject to suspected fixing. Europol's investigation says World Cup and European Championship qualification matches were also fixed. Europol's investigation says criminals wagered 16m euros on rigged matches making a profit of €8.5m. The highest single bribe was €140,000. Director of Europol Rob Wainwright said: "This is the work of a suspected organised crime syndicate based in Asia and operated with criminal networks around Europe. "Over the last 18 months Europol and five European countries have been running a huge investigation team to look into the concern about widespread matching fixing in European football. "It is clear to use this is the biggest ever investigation into suspected match fixing in Europe. It has yielded major results which we think have uncovered a big problem for the integrity of football in Europe. "We have uncovered an extensive criminal network. " I'll continue to update this OP as more breaks. e: Champions League tie played in England 'was fixed': quote:A Champions League tie played in England is one of 380 matches across Europe investigators say was fixed...(more at the link provided) "Clear links" found between the criminal organisations involved and the already public Italian match fixing scandal. Ninpo fucked around with this message at Feb 4, 2013 around 10:42 |
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I wonder which leagues and which clubs are involved. Lets speculate.
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I think its obvious SAF is behind this. It starts out with a noodle sponsor and quickly escalates to organized crime syndicates
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| # ? Feb 4, 2013 10:40 |
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A match being fixed could mean a lot of different things. Could be a ref trying to get over 2 goals or it could be a goalkeeper letting in goals on purpose. Innit.
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| # ? Feb 4, 2013 10:43 |
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Pissflaps posted:I wonder which leagues and which clubs are involved. Lets speculate. Obviously the Champions League match is the Chelsea - Barcelona match from 2009. Glad Ovrebo will finally get his comeuppance
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At least it explains why Barcelona keep being gifted wins they don't deserve in the knockout stages.
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I Had Sex Twice posted:Obviously the Champions League match is the Chelsea - Barcelona match from 2009. Glad Ovrebo will finally get his comeuppance I instantly thought of the Barcelona - Arsenal match with the ludicrious red card for van Persie, but that was played in the Camp Nou. Still could be the other CL match they have investigated.
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I think Barca and the Chels are tainted by this.
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I Had Sex Twice posted:Obviously the Champions League match is the Chelsea - Barcelona match from 2009. Glad Ovrebo will finally get his comeuppance please turn out to be true because that performance was one of the worst by a ref
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| # ? Feb 4, 2013 11:04 |
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I always knew there was something fishy about Arsenal-Standard...
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It'll quite clearly be a group game vs some Eastern European team that purposefully lost by 6 goals rather than 4 Something like this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foo...ope/7076592.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foo...ope/7054216.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foo...ope/3677174.stm The Mash fucked around with this message at Feb 4, 2013 around 11:23 |
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The Mash posted:It'll quite clearly be a group game vs some Eastern European team that purposefully lost by 6 goals rather than 4 Good institutionalised racism against EE yet again.
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The Mash posted:It'll quite clearly be a group game vs some Eastern European team that purposefully lost by 6 goals rather than 4 Or comedy option: Leeds
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Its not as impressive as this http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/...al-south-africa quote:At times bets were placed on matches that did not even happen, such as the notorious ghost game between the Under-21 sides of Turkmenistan and the Maldives when a local 'spotter' employed by bookmakers filed regular dispatches on an entirely fictional encounter.
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jyrka posted:Good institutionalised racism against EE yet again. I'm not saying those dirty poles take all our jobs and bribe money because they're an inferior people or anything like that, but based on the amounts of money mentioned in the OP, it seems like it would have to be a team from a relatively poor country for the bribe to matter to them.
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The Mash posted:I'm not saying those dirty poles take all our jobs and bribe money because they're an inferior people or anything like that, but based on the amounts of money mentioned in the OP, it seems like it would have to be a team from a relatively poor country for the bribe to matter to them. All we know about that match is that it took place in England. And you jump straight onto the old standby of 'Eastern Europeans are criminals'. gently caress you.
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Everyone on twitter seems convinced it's Chelsea - Barca. It's a ludicrous suggestion but I wouldn't mind it being true anyway.
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I've got some mates playing the norwegian 5th division and they are regularly approached (over facebook, e-mail, skype etc) by people under false names offering them cash to fix matches. Not the biggest sums, but these are amateur players who's offered 500-1000 pounds to score own goals, concede penalties or get a red card. Someone has to say yes and go along with it. I think it's a lot bigger than this, and it's just a matter of time until a really big scandal is revealed.
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Could be Arsenal v Celtic and that Eduardo penalty
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The Mash posted:It'll quite clearly be a group game vs some Eastern European team that purposefully lost by 6 goals rather than 4 Could it be even simpler: a ref paid to give more free kicks in one half than the other? Bets go on bloody anything.
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jyrka posted:All we know about that match is that it took place in England. And you jump straight onto the old standby of 'Eastern Europeans are criminals'. gently caress you. We also know the maximum amount of money involved in a single game, according to the BBC anyway. You're right though, there's no reason to jump to conclusions like that, especially not when this clearly seems to be something that has gone on all across Europe. I apologize.
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The Mash posted:Everyone on twitter seems convinced it's Chelsea - Barca. It's a ludicrous suggestion but I wouldn't mind it being true anyway. I really doubt that Øvrebø would be involved in such a thing. It's most likely something very low profile. Like Tottenham actually playing in the champions league, what was that even about.
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euroboy posted:Like Tottenham actually playing in the champions league, what was that even about. Are you saying Gareth Bale was bribed to play better than he normally does in Milan? Because that's a long con if I ever saw one
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They said in the press conference that the bets were placed with Asian bookies, that offer bets on all sorts of poo poo that European bookmakers don't, so as mentioned the bets could have been on absolutely anything. From the BBC: Europol spokesman says Champions League match fixed in England was played "in past three or four years". Europol spokesman says the "fixed" Champions League match cannot yet be identified because of "ongoing judicial proceedings". Must admit I first thought of Chelsea v Barca as well, it fits the time frame too.
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I bet it was some Belgians I've never trusted them they look a bit shifty.
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Blue Screen Error posted:I bet it was some Belgians I've never trusted them they look a bit shifty. They're far too poo poo considering how good their team should be
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The Mash posted:Are you saying Gareth Bale was bribed to play better than he normally does in Milan? Because that's a long con if I ever saw one People do everything for money these days.
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Does the term 'match fixing' imply that it was the actual result that was fixed, or is that just a catch all term for all dodgy gambling related shenanigans?
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euroboy posted:I've got some mates playing the norwegian 5th division and they are regularly approached (over facebook, e-mail, skype etc) by people under false names offering them cash to fix matches. Not the biggest sums, but these are amateur players who's offered 500-1000 pounds to score own goals, concede penalties or get a red card. Someone has to say yes and go along with it. I think it's a lot bigger than this, and it's just a matter of time until a really big scandal is revealed. I think ultimately it's on the bookies to stop offering amateur football or at least put limits on maximum bet sizes. I suppose so far the addicts adding random matches to 'accys' outweigh fixed matches so it stays profitable. But it still constantly blows my mind that if I want to I could bet on 'Avdeling 12' or 'Scottish Premier League'.
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Since we're talking about cheating, is there any interest in a doping thread? I'm thinking about doing an effortpost.
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You bet
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The BBC posted:
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Messyass posted:Since we're talking about cheating, is there any interest in a doping thread? I'm thinking about doing an effortpost. We've already got one
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| # ? Feb 4, 2013 11:44 |
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Given that they're actually fixing the result, how are these people making so little money out of it?
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Blue Screen Error posted:Does the term 'match fixing' imply that it was the actual result that was fixed, or is that just a catch all term for all dodgy gambling related shenanigans? The latter for sure. Obviously since you can bet on anything they would fix things that are less suspicious than the actual score of the match. Like the number of yellow cards and whathaveyou.
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peanut- posted:Given that they're actually fixing the result, how are these people making so little money out of it? Referee's get paid gently caress all in most countries so those amounts would be good money
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Scott Bakula posted:Referee's get paid gently caress all in most countries so those amounts would be good money I don't mean the amount of the bribe, I mean the returns earned by the fixers: quote:In Germany-based matches alone, criminals wagered £13.8m (16m euros) on rigged matches and made £6.9m in profit 50% return on fixed results.
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Well I imagine you can't go around putting massive sums on long odds without someone getting suspicious so they probably go for fairly plausible outcomes with short odds
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peanut- posted:I don't mean the amount of the bribe, I mean the returns earned by the fixers: Betting any higher would alert authorities even earlier.
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The Mash posted:We also know the maximum amount of money involved in a single game, according to the BBC anyway. You're right though, there's no reason to jump to conclusions like that, especially not when this clearly seems to be something that has gone on all across Europe. I apologize. Hamann is/was definitely not the only player with a betting habit. Edit: If all you do is bet lots of money on dumb poo poo you are pretty receptive to even more betting money coming your way for a little fixing.
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