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webmeister posted:Even Dan Carlin took a while to really hit his stride. He really does sound like a raving mad conspiracy theory talkshow host in his earlier episodes, and he doesn't entirely sober up for a surprisingly long time. Dan Carlin still sounds like a Morning Zoo radio show host who went a little too deep down the Rabbit Hole. That's not to mean he doesn't do an amazing show, just he comes off sounding like a cartoon parody of a conspiracy theorist radio jockey.
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What do people think of the Rex Factor? I've been loving it so far, to the point of putting it in first priority above the comedy podcasts. Makes me wanna memorize the kings and queens of England.
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The Real Quaid posted:History boys: What's your opinion on The History of Byzantium podcast- good/poo poo? Only listened to 1 ep so far, it sounded like a really corny flamboyant dad telling a scary bedtime story to a kid- seriously hokey and affected, I didn't enjoy the style at all. I liked 12 Byzantine Rulers & the History of Rome so was really hoping this would be good. I like it. I'd give it through Justinian's reign to see if it is really for you. That's where his style begins to really diverge from Duncan's.
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toanoradian posted:What do people think of the Rex Factor? I've been loving it so far, to the point of putting it in first priority above the comedy podcasts. I'm a fan. Not only is the 'cast amusing, but it fills in the gaps of my English history knowledge by covering the reigns of kings who don't usually get much play. It's a good show, if you don't mind the irreverence. And as I'm also a fan of The Lesser Bonapartes, irreverence ain't a problem for me.
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hiddenmovement posted:I think Longworth is a great presenter and she does an excellent podcast but some of the voicework is diabolically bad. The voice of the female presenter (is there more than one?) on the Criminal podcast weirds me out. Or maybe it's the mix: she uses the same tone for voice over & intros as she does for interviewing people, so it always feels like it's done in one take. As if she's talking to someone and then suddenly turns away to commentate the action and the interviewee is left standing there, awkwardly trying to be silent and ignore her as she does a monologue about what they just spoke about. But as a voice, hers is actually pretty good.
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The Lesser Bonapartes didn't "take" with me somehow, I dunno, gonna try The Rex Factor
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TheFallenEvincar posted:The Lesser Bonapartes didn't "take" with me somehow, I dunno, gonna try The Rex Factor I really liked the Lesser Bonapartes' material; it was the presenters I couldn't stand.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I really liked the Lesser Bonapartes' material; it was the presenters I couldn't stand. same
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I really liked the Lesser Bonapartes' material; it was the presenters I couldn't stand. It always felt to me like the hosts weren't trying to teach me something, they were trying to show me how much they knew. That and the lack of organization (sometimes their digressions had digressions, again seemingly in service of "no I know this don't think I don't") are what bothered me.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I really liked the Lesser Bonapartes' material; it was the presenters I couldn't stand. I liked the more level-headed presenter. The one with a lisp (I don't mind the lisp but it's identifiable) is pretty insufferable.
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Lesser Bonapartes is unlistenable due to the hosts constant, obnoxious guffawing at their deeply hackneyed schtick. Unfortunately this is fairly common for nerd podcasts. Are there any good current affairs podcasts that focus on China?
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Yeah I made it about halfway through a picked-at-random Lesser Bonapartes show before giving up entirely. I don't mind a mix of info/opinion and banter at all - The Football Ramble is probably my favourite podcast - but the Bonapartes had the balance miles off. I can't remember which episode it was, but one of the guys cracked a painfully unfunny joke about someone's name, then kept repeating it for the next half and hour while they both fell about laughing.
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Thwomp posted:I like it. I'd give it through Justinian's reign to see if it is really for you. That's where his style begins to really diverge from Duncan's. I tried it again, I couldn't get much past that Harry Potter theme tune, ugh. I'll try once more later. Re: the Lesser Bonapartes, I think they're funny, its a good & interesting show.
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Guessing everyone who cares already noticed, but You Must Remember This is back with a more classic Hollywood season, this time focusing on MGM during the studio system era. It's great, everyone should listen to it!
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The Real Quaid posted:
I can't say that they ever make me laugh or anything but I do like the podcast in general.
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I still subscribe to and ostensibly listen to the History of Byzantium podcast but it's been a while since I could bring myself to listen to it because the history itself I find just so depressing and sad.
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CountFosco posted:I still subscribe to and ostensibly listen to the History of Byzantium podcast but it's been a while since I could bring myself to listen to it because the history itself I find just so depressing and sad. Hell, it ain't even THAT bad yet. They've got six hundred and fifty years of death spiral left from the current episode!
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God damnit, Carlin, where the heck is the next installment of my free entertainmnet also shilling for twilighthistories.com again even if it's more (alternate) historical fiction than educational, I've listened through all the episodes and I heartily recommend it
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So that's the French Revolution. Much more interesting and memorable than whatever I forgot in high school world history. I know we still get an epilogue from Mike and a two month break. But after that... Bring on the Haitians. 
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I really enjoyed Mike's coverage of the French Revolution, although I was hoping for the series to continue through Napoleon's career (I totally understand how that would have been out of scope and tripled the size of the series, but still.) As this era of history was new to me I went looking for a book on Napoleon to explain what happened next, and "Napoleon: A Life" by Andrew Roberts has been excellent. Mike's podcast gave me a thorough understanding of the era and is an excellent lead in to the start of the book. The author visited a lot of the major landmarks and battle sites and has great insights. I'd highly recommend it to anyone who wants the story to continue.
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Mojo Threepwood posted:I really enjoyed Mike's coverage of the French Revolution, although I was hoping for the series to continue through Napoleon's career (I totally understand how that would have been out of scope and tripled the size of the series, but still.) I listened to the audio book back when he started France and is fantastic, highly recommend it.
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Robert's Napoleon is definitely a perfect complement to the podcast, it goes really in depth in all the areas Mike didn't. It is pretty light on the early revolution and focuses more on the Consulate and Empire. I'm really looking forward to Haiti now. zeekner fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Pity his machine blew up before he could do the summary episode. It's going to be a long few months until he gets Haiti going, alas.
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The French Revolution was peak Mike Duncan I think. Or his best And most entertaining work. I also love how he started out on the side that the Terror was one of history's great crimes and the when he got through it was like "I guess it wasn't so bad?".
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The one thing that annoyed me about the Revolutions podcast was the bias Duncan seemed to have for the old French monarchy.
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I listened to the first 5 episodes of the series (on the English revolution) and I'd really rather just read his scripts. He doesn't release those does he? Does the French revolution season(?) improve vastly over the English Revolution or is it more or less dry and by the book? I have to concentrate pretty hard on what he's saying but I would get it better if I could just read it and I'd really like to because it is well-researched it seems to me.
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I haven't finished the French revolution yet, but he gets stronger and more comfortable as he goes on. I'd stick the English revolution out a couple more episodes and see, it's a good story and there's a big jump in his presentation not too far in.
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Alright. I'll give it a shot once I catch up on Kevin Stroud's History of English Podcast which is so so so good. Really interesting linguistic and etymology going on plus some good historical accounts of different peoples. Though on the topic how many episodes do you guys usually give a program before deciding to give it up or not? My threshold is usually 5 for half hour episodes and 3 for hour long episodes. Generally I'm willing to give 2-3 hours of my time to test out a podcast.
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I normally like Stuff You Missed in History Class, but boy howdy that interview about gentleman's attire was hard to get through. And surprisingly light on actual content.
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CountFosco posted:The one thing that annoyed me about the Revolutions podcast was the bias Duncan seemed to have for the old French monarchy. Huh I didn't get that at all and I listened to it twice.
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Yeah, in particular he was pretty down on Louis XVI for being a wishy-washy flip-flopper who had chances to save his throne but blew them through indecision or bad decisions at critical moments. I mean unless you're thinking that anyone who doesn't portray a monarch as a baby-eating monster instead of a schlub who got out of his depth and lost it all is "pro-monarchy" or something. Because otherwise, I just don't see it.
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I would admit looking into the Haitian Revolution has forced me to think about the French Revolution differently. Toussaint Louverture consolidated his power in ways not unlike Robespierre, practicing Terror-like purges. Yet history has vindicated Toussaint because his consolidation of power was successful. And of course, the outcome of the Haitian Revolution in some ways was less ambiguous. And also, Robespierre consistently supported abolishing slavery. Napoleon reinstated it. The Thermidorians and Bonapartists got to write a lot of the history of the French Revolution and had every reason to paint Robespierre as badly as they could. Obviously, that's not to say the Terror was good. But it wasn't even among the worst atrocities committed during that time period. I am definitely interested in how Mike Duncan will process the Haitian Revolution.
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Dan Carlin talks about Hardcore History, delays, etc.: http://forum.dancarlin.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=46154&p=692291
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I don't think he sounded pro-monarchy, I think he was just acknowledging that the French Revolution was a giant clusterfuck that didn't turn out well for almost anybody involved.
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Duncan has a stability and liberal rights bias which is normal.
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100YrsofAttitude posted:I listened to the first 5 episodes of the series (on the English revolution) and I'd really rather just read his scripts. He doesn't release those does he? He doesn't release scripts as far as I know. Stick with it, or skip the English revolution entirely as it's easily the weakest of the three series so far. The start in particular is very dry, and even as someone with a decent knowledge of English geography I found it really hard to keep track of troop movements etc. The later stuff about Cromwell is pretty good though. His delivery is always very dense though, so if you zone out momentarily it's really easy to lose track of what he's talking about.
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I have a very low tolerance for internet libertarian stuff, and Duncan doesn't give off any of it / at least enough of it to bother me. I was surprised by how positive on the revolutionaries he was. As for the monarchy, the Ancien Regime isn't actually liked by libertarians, so there's no contradiction there
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icantfindaname posted:I have a very low tolerance for internet libertarian stuff, and Duncan doesn't give off enough of it Revolutions to bother me. I was surprised by how positive on the revolutionaries he was. As for the monarchy, the Ancien Regime isn't actually liked by libertarians, so there's no contradiction there What on earth made you think that Duncan would be an internet libertarian? Much less the confrontational/ranting/internet libertarian type? Everything he's ever done paints him as a mild mannered and well intentioned High School history teacher who just wants kids to learn about cool/interesting poo poo that happened.
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icantfindaname posted:I have a very low tolerance for internet libertarian stuff, and Duncan doesn't give off enough of it Revolutions to bother me. I was surprised by how positive on the revolutionaries he was. As for the monarchy, the Ancien Regime isn't actually liked by libertarians, so there's no contradiction there Don't libertarians generally dislike the government and think everything should be privatized or opt-in anyway? And why must he be pro-revolutionary? I don't know why so many goons treat revolutions or revolutionaries as axiomatically positive things. The Tea Party probably thinks they're revolutionaries too.
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It's understandable to assume why so many history nerds are libertarian-types. Just look at the trajectory of the History Channel. That said, I don't get the impression at all from the podcasts or his Twitter feed that Mike is libertarian. Edit: Cool that Mike has a book deal. I'll probably get it even though I'm kind of sick of the whole "Ancient Rome = America" trope. Echo Chamber fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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