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rypakal posted:It's ok. He says "listen up folks" enough that you know he's a crazy conspiracy nut that shouldn't be taken seriously. I'm 100% positive he believes in Bigfoot and ancient aliens. But he does decent historical research and has a well trained audio delivery. Even his voice is similar to Alex Jones'. I've only listened to one of his podcasts, but that whole sense of him as a crazy conspiracy theorist has really stuck with me.
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Eh, that's pretty debatable and against most current scholarship. Douglas Brinkley's "Wilderness Warrior" doesn't agree with that view at all. You need to view conservation and preservation initiatives within an early 20th century context. There was no contradiction, whats-so-ever for being a big hunter and conservationist. Thats a more modern development. Remember, Roosevelt never pretended to be a preservationist like Muir, but associated more with guys like Pinchot. Also, if it was to trophy hunt at home he failed pretty badly. After his presidency and the establishment of more parks, he hunted abroad, not at home. Hell, following 1912 I don't think he went on another big hunt period. As for Roosevelt as warlord, thats flat out wrong. I don't blame Carlin for thinking that, but it is a mistake. T.R. as president was less willing to engage in military intervention than Woodrow Wilson for instance. Not to mention T.R and cabinet's careful handling of Germany's attempt to blow up South American port cities. Too often people get individuals's views mixed up with their actions. Was T.R. a racist? Yes, he certainly was. But when you think about it, its kind of a cop out for the American people. His variety of racism was very much in league with white northerners as a whole, and focusing on a leader's racism ignores just how thoroughly prejudiced white America was at a whole. Funny enough, the much maligned Woodrow Wilson was honestly very moderate in terms of race for a naan with a southern background. Remember, segregation and Jim Crow were the initiatives of white racial "moderates." The extremists demanded extermination or moving black men and women on to reservations. I am not a T.R. fanboy, and I do think he is too often made into some kind of superhero president. But he was also a complicated and nuanced character. People too often mistake T.R.'s own or his opponents propaganda for being the real man. T.R.'s campaigners and opponents wanted you to think he was some dumb man child. While there is a hint of truth to that, its also true that T.R. was also bookish, prudish, and shrill in speech.
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rypakal posted:It's ok. He says "listen up folks" enough that you know he's a crazy conspiracy nut that shouldn't be taken seriously. I'm 100% positive he believes in Bigfoot and ancient aliens. But he does decent historical research and has a well trained audio delivery. I think that all depends on your politics. I'm only pretty left, which makes me a conservative for SA, I realize, but I got a bit of a bad taste in my mouth from some of his earlier stuff 3-4 years ago which was pretty flat-out libertarian. As I've gotten into my late thirties and slightly less lefty, his last year's worth of shows, especially since snowden, have made a ton of sense. Except for his "share a nuke" plan, which is either genius or stupid. edit: And on TR, don't forget that he started life as a sickly, bookish kid who got wrapped up in the whole Victorian ideal of vigorous manhood in response to his desire to no longer be a sickly kid. I've always looked at him as a former nerd who hulked out once he grew up, and because of that, can never be sure what of his ideas are really his, and what of his ideas are what he thinks are the opposite of what a wan, sickly person would do. This is all Dr. Phil level psych-101 poo poo, and I may be completely wrong, but it's helped me see the guy as a human, even as he enjoys a bit of a spike in popularity lately as the dream of the 1890s is alive everywhere. stealie72 fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Mar 28, 2014 |
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This is what I meant when I said calling him a racist peter pan reductive. If you tear a person out of their historical context and judge them solely based on your modern morals you can't really learn anything. And as other people have said, his conversational efforts weren't just to satisfy his blood lust. The man was a legitimate naturalist in his time. He could identify hundreds of species of birds by their calls alone, or from a single feather. His first published work was about of the bird population on long island.
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I think the one that turned me off from Common Sense was his off-hand dismissal of the shutdown crisis as "a distraction". I guess I'm just one of those people that can't quite separate an author;s views from his works, so I just stayed away from it since then because I really enjoy Hardcore History otherwise.
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^^^--The shutdown crisis more or less WAS a distraction, as well as a giant waste of time and money.stealie72 posted:I think that all depends on your politics. I'm only pretty left, which makes me a conservative for SA, I realize, but I got a bit of a bad taste in my mouth from some of his earlier stuff 3-4 years ago which was pretty flat-out libertarian. As I've gotten into my late thirties and slightly less lefty, his last year's worth of shows, especially since snowden, have made a ton of sense. Except for his "share a nuke" plan, which is either genius or stupid. I don't think Carlin would identify as libertarian today either. I think he's largely just focused on political corruption rather than any political platform. I like a lot of his rhetoric and his Common Sense podcasts tend to at the very least raise interesting questions without resorting to blanket hyperbole. When you have heels like Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck or Hannity dominating the realm of political talking points or opinion pieces, Carlin is hardly the most lunatic voice on the air, even disregarding the Alex Jones crowd. And to be fair, nobody is as crazy as Alex Jones. Carlin's got some very out-there ideas, but he's a lot more sensible than the Stefan Molyneuxs or Alex Joneses of the world.
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To me I feel like Common Sense is a carry-over from what his old radio show must have been like. He uses a lot of those talk-radio techniques like never wasting a chance to tell the audience how he was right about something, explaining things multiple times for people who are unfamiliar with whatever he's talking about, and framing issues in ways that try to mitigate the arguments that angry callers might make. It comes off a bit weird in a podcast, where you already had to opt in to listen to it rather than just come across it on the radio dial. I just figure that he's blowing off steam between Hardcore History shows.
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Well replace angry callers with angry twitter messages and forum posts and it's probably still the same old to him, but you're right it does have a some of that talk radio feel to it still. I think the thing that bothers me most about Common Sense is the horribly cheesy intros, and those are talk radio as gently caress.
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Maduo posted:I think the thing that bothers me most about Common Sense is the horribly cheesy intros, and those are talk radio as gently caress. That's actually my favorite part of the podcast 
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Mr. Pither posted:To me I feel like Common Sense is a carry-over from what his old radio show must have been like. He uses a lot of those talk-radio techniques like never wasting a chance to tell the audience how he was right about something, explaining things multiple times for people who are unfamiliar with whatever he's talking about, and framing issues in ways that try to mitigate the arguments that angry callers might make. It comes off a bit weird in a podcast, where you already had to opt in to listen to it rather than just come across it on the radio dial. He does just about all of this in his Hardcore History podcast as well.
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He says straight up that if you aren't getting mad at him, then he isn't doing his job on Common Sense. It's weird that everybody calls him lefty now ever since the Snowden leaks, although not really, I guess. He has always said state secrecy is his #1 issue, and he was considered a crazy libertarian nut job that believed that the NSA is listening to all of our phone calls. Well, once that turned out to be true, it wasn't a defining characteristic of his politics anymore. He's still libertarian (i guess they are most known for isolationism) in foreign policy, and other issues, like hard drugs. For example, he isn't against drug war just because of racism and the prison industry, but because he thinks he should have a right to get high as gently caress on recreational drugs. Elsewhere he has been getting more left since the last economic crisis. I hate libertarian ideology but I love Dan Carlin and Common Sense. But I'm the type of nut job who'll listen to people i disagree with completely, as long as they are smart and have a clearly thought out view. I don't see how you couldn't be, if you are a leftist, anyways. The Left is searching for a good political model, and we don't have one right now, IMO, since Communism failed and now european socialism is taking a beating. edit- He's getting a ton of attention on CS right now because he's playing the Hitchens gadfly role in the Russian troubles right now. Hence all the whining here. I love it. 40 OZ fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Mar 30, 2014 |
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I just watched the video that Mike Duncan of Revolutions did about the "Shot Heard Round the World" and really enjoyed it. Does anyone have any recommendations for similar youtube channels that have that same kind of fast paced informative video?
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Gann Jerrod posted:I just watched the video that Mike Duncan of Revolutions did about the "Shot Heard Round the World" and really enjoyed it. Does anyone have any recommendations for similar youtube channels that have that same kind of fast paced informative video? I've only just recently discovered youtube channels but these fit the bill (in decreasing order of speed but they're all really fast paced): CGP Grey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 MinutePhysics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR4tJr7sMPM Mental Floss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyYy7dmAnM8 CrashCourse (the two history series, literature, and psychology are all well done. The chemistry/science didn't grab me the same way) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PszVWZNWVA Edit: added examples. Thwomp fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but the researchers behind the really excellent BBC Quiz Show QI have a new strange-facts orientated podcast called No Such Thing As A Fish. Soundcloud, iTunes.
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Zorak posted:I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but the researchers behind the really excellent BBC Quiz Show QI have a new strange-facts orientated podcast called No Such Thing As A Fish. Soundcloud, iTunes. Zorak, what do you actually do for a living? Its something science based I figure based on your posts, but just wondering.
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Thwomp posted:I've only just recently discovered youtube channels but these fit the bill (in decreasing order of speed but they're all really fast paced): Thank you, I'm subscribed to CGP Grey but the rest are new to me and look promising.
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Zorak posted:I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but the researchers behind the really excellent BBC Quiz Show QI have a new strange-facts orientated podcast called No Such Thing As A Fish. Soundcloud, iTunes. Thanks for this, it fills a niche I was searching for perfectly. Maybe sometime Sir Fry will show up with his wonderful voice to school me in random detritus.
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Thwomp posted:I've only just recently discovered youtube channels but these fit the bill (in decreasing order of speed but they're all really fast paced): To add to these there's also Numberphile and Computerphile, which are the same sort of informative videos only more about mathematics. Numberphile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab_dY3dZFHM Computerphile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcDZS7iYNsA some of the deeper subjects do stretch the definition of "fast paced", but oh well.
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Zorak posted:I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but the researchers behind the really excellent BBC Quiz Show QI have a new strange-facts orientated podcast called No Such Thing As A Fish. Soundcloud, iTunes. Having actually listened to it now, can confirm that it is really good. Stravinsky posted:Zorak, what do you actually do for a living? Its something science based I figure based on your posts, but just wondering. Rocket science.
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Zorak posted:Having actually listened to it now, can confirm that it is really good. Seconded. If you like QI you will love it, if you hate QI you might like it anyway because it doesn't have the things that people hate the most about QI (the host and the guests).
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Some of the guests I will grant you, but if you hate Stephen Fry you don't deserve entertainment.
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Pigbog posted:Some of the guests I will grant you, but if you hate Stephen Fry you don't deserve entertainment. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the numerous TV shows he's hosted and starred in, but let's just say the UK thread in D&D has a specific rule about Frychat so I thought to be inclusive in my recommendation.
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Antti posted:Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the numerous TV shows he's hosted and starred in, but let's just say the UK thread in D&D has a specific rule about Frychat so I thought to be inclusive in my recommendation. Whatever that rule is, it is a dumb rule.
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Crossposting Waroduce posted:I have a four hour drive on Friday, and another 4 hour back Sunday. Does anyone have any podcasts they could recommend, or any video (that I'll rip) or audio lectures similar to below that you could recommend?
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I don't think I get the Common Sense hatred. Dan's had a few episodes where he's slipped lately between Snowden and Crimea but the Crimean situation seems to have focused him again. You guys do realize that he's not actually a crazy conspiracy type of person, right? If Dan's talking about something that is considered a conspiracy sort of thing he's usually quite right about it being worth serious discussion, as with the NSA revelations - most of SA probably knew from Drake or Binney or whatever that this stuff was certainly going on but the mainstream news would have called you a nut for seriously discussing it. Dan spent years sounding like "a crazy conspiracy theorist" on the issue and was unequivocally correct about these programs long ahead of the Snowden leaks. If you've never listened to Common Sense give it a whirl but you might want to start with the shows of about 5 years ago as there's a pretty long run of great CS shows during the first few years of the Obama administration. 40 OZ posted:He's still libertarian (i guess they are most known for isolationism) in foreign policy, and other issues, like hard drugs. For example, he isn't against drug war just because of racism and the prison industry, but because he thinks he should have a right to get high as gently caress on recreational drugs. Elsewhere he has been getting more left since the last economic crisis. I guess he's quasi-libertarian on some things? He always says he's a little sympathetic to libertarianism but I frankly do not see all that much of it in his stances. He is definitely not isolationist in his foreign policy except in comparison to the MIC - advocating fewer foreign adventures and more cautious diplomacy doesn't correspond to the "close all military bases on foreign soil"  libertarian isolationism. The only policy position of his that has ever made me thrown my hands up in exasperation is his poor understanding of the flat tax's consequences.I think Dan would probably be pretty far left if he hadn't grown up during the Cold War. His age has firmly rooted him in capitalism but his other views defy classification IMO.
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Jazerus posted:I don't think I get the Common Sense hatred. Dan's had a few episodes where he's slipped lately between Snowden and Crimea but the Crimean situation seems to have focused him again. Well said and very true. Dan's not a libertarian by any popular definition, and I think he has a lot of pretty drat good insights that shouldn't be hastily dismissed by the goonmind.
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Jazerus posted:I don't think I get the Common Sense hatred. Dan's had a few episodes where he's slipped lately between Snowden and Crimea but the Crimean situation seems to have focused him again. Having listened to his shows for about four years, I completely agree with your description of his views. I generally appreciate his views, even if he is naive about economic and tax matters. Generally I think Dan's common sense shows have gotten better (for the most part) once he started reading a truckload of books as part of his HH prep. MooselanderII fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Apr 16, 2014 |
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I've only listened to 3 episodes of Common Sense (it's pretty 'current events' so going back much further didn't seem to make sense) but it's definitely a different, intellectually honest point of view he argues from, which is what makes it entertaining. I agree with a lot of what he says too. Definitely a good podcast in my opinion.
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My problem with Dan isn't necessarily his ideas. It's that he sounds like Glenn Beck and Jesse Ventura. Listen up folks
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rypakal posted:My problem with Dan isn't necessarily his ideas. It's that he sounds like Glenn Beck and Jesse Ventura. I've probably listened to less than an hour of political talk radio combined in my life so that sort of thing I wouldn't even notice. He does occasionally sound like he is about to launch into a lizard people theory, but that's part of the charm.
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I've never listened to Dan's 'Common Sense' podcast, but if it's anything like the Enigma Force Five then I've definitely got to try it.
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While waiting for the next HH I've been listening to a relatively new BBC series on WWI. There are a couple of "arcs" so far focusing on the role of women, propaganda and the homefront. http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/ww1/ww1/rss.xml Are there any other podcasts on WWI or II that come highly recommended? I've tried "The History of WWII" but found it a bit stuff and lacking.
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That looks fantastic, but I can't get stitcher to find it. Grr.
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stealie72 posted:That looks fantastic, but I can't get stitcher to find it. Grr. From what I've heard, Stitcher is kind of a walled garden that offers show listing terms some podcasters find disagreeable. You might want to look into other clients?
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cbirdsong posted:From what I've heard, Stitcher is kind of a walled garden that offers show listing terms some podcasters find disagreeable. You might want to look into other clients? Huh. Didn't know that. Any recommendations for something better for streaming than stitcher for Android?
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stealie72 posted:Huh. Didn't know that. Any recommendations for something better for streaming than stitcher for Android? beyondpod works great. It's got a large database and you can manually give it RSS feeds if whatever you're looking for isn't on their list.
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Re: In Our Time, the speakers get to see the questions beforehand so they can prepare. But like you say a great many wander off on the finer points for fear of retribution from peers who probably don't appreciate the massive constraints when presenting the entire history of China or whatever in 30 minutes in a freeform Q&A format. Bragg's a massive dick too, there are so many amateurs doing these subjects now I that I only listen to IOT when I need a quick intro to a particularly curious subject or I want to sleep.
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