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TheJeffers posted:Any concerns about film economy should probably come second to whether your work will be better served by 6x9 versus 6x7. You're not going to be running and gunning with either of these cameras unless you're rich and crazy, and the difference is exactly two shots per roll, so you may as well ensure the camera lets you compose according to the way you like to see. Paul MaudDib posted:The GW690 is usually considered to be the better option, because the lenses are identical. You can always crop from 6x9 down to 6x7 if needed, but you can never get back the extra field-of-view that you cropped away to save a buck per roll on. Thank you for this input. I will keep this in mind as I make my final purchase decision. Currently leaning more toward the 6x9 now, since I'm a lot more used the 2:3 aspect ratio.
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TheJeffers posted:Any concerns about film economy should probably come second to whether your work will be better served by 6x9 versus 6x7. You're not going to be running and gunning with either of these cameras unless you're rich and crazy, and the difference is exactly two shots per roll, so you may as well ensure the camera lets you compose according to the way you like to see. I have a GW690II and a Mamiya 7. For me personally, 6x7 is just a better aspect ratio to deal with when shooting medium format. I have absolutely nothing to back this up but my gut. I think it might be a combination of the resolution and how my eye reads a photograph. To counter my own lovely opinion, Mark Steinmetz uses 6x9 really well.
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try it with a lime posted:For me personally, 6x7 is just a better aspect ratio to deal with when shooting medium format. I have absolutely nothing to back this up but my gut. I think it might be a combination of the resolution and how my eye reads a photograph. I have usually found that the more rectangular aspect ratios like 6x7 to be more pleasing for compositions because 3x2 tends to be too long and invites unnecessary elements into the frame. That said I've seen good photos making good compositional use of 3x2 so it's not impossible, just harder.
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I find it easy on 35mm where you can really flatten an image at f/8 or f/11 and use the edges to draw the eye in, whereas it gets a little mushier with medium format if you're shooting handheld and trying to do the same thing. Centre-weighted images generally seem to work better with a narrower depth of field.
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I'm a big fan of 6x9 and especially the GW690, it just fits with how I see an object to photograph. It took me a while to get used to it, but once I did it became a very natural format to shoot with. And as far as depth of field, I very rarely go more open than f/8 with that camera.
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Patrick Joust does some pretty fantastic work with the GW690 if you're looking for references: http://patrickjoust.tumblr.com/
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Shot some 18 month old collodion that was mixed for shooting negatives, but I just shot it as a positive and got some okay results. It was super slow, around 0.25 ISO, and I was over developing, leaving silver on the surface And I also was mucking around with a coffee-can camera. Just get a coffee can, drill a hole in it, tape across the hole and pop a pin-hole in it, and shove some paper in the can. A bit of fun. 
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alkanphel posted:
This is sick.
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This page should be quarantined. Because the photos are very sick.
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 RSV Aurora Australis Bridge by alex gard, on Flickr  Mt. Roland from Sheffield by alex gard, on Flickr  ice by alex gard, on Flickr Here's one I had an absolute bitch colour-correcting and I still can't get it right. Drives me nuts. The reds are too pink and the blues are too pale, but anything either way and all the other colours get thrown out. If I get the whites where I want them then touching anything else becomes no bueno  AA Monkey Island by alex gard, on Flickr Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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Spedman posted:Shot some 18 month old collodion that was mixed for shooting negatives, but I just shot it as a positive and got some okay results. It was super slow, around 0.25 ISO, and I was over developing, leaving silver on the surface Was this taking out your new basket darkbox? All of the flaws have worked well with the subject. Surprised the collodion worked at that age..! Good to see you back into shooting plates 
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what the gently caress posted:Here's one I had an absolute bitch colour-correcting and I still can't get it right. Drives me nuts. The reds are too pink and the blues are too pale, but anything either way and all the other colours get thrown out. If I get the whites where I want them then touching anything else becomes no bueno Use photoshop with color correction layers.
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what the gently caress posted:
How the gently caress did you pull this off?
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what the gently caress posted:
I took a shot, hope you don't mind: 
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Pretty much every image posted on this page is very good. Way to go, guys.
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Awkward Davies posted:I took a shot, hope you don't mind: Yeah that's a little bit better although the reds are still pretty pink. The colour of the ship is more of a predominantly orange-red colour irl. Would the mega intensity of the sunlight make it harder? What did you do? Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Pretty much every image posted on this page is very good. Way to go, guys. let me fix that  Gull. by Paul Frederiksen, on Flickr
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what the gently caress posted:Yeah that's a little bit better although the reds are still pretty pink. The colour of the ship is more of a predominantly orange-red colour irl. Would the mega intensity of the sunlight make it harder? Levels, set the highlight points for R, G and B to be correct, and set the white off of one of the flows. I also did the 50% grey fill layer thing, but that gave it kind of a green cast. I didn't gently caress around with it much, only had a few minutes at work.
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 Portland Meadows by Isaac Sachs, on Flickr 4x5 Portra erryday.
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:
Variation on a theme:  I really do adore the way Astia renders blues (and realized just a while ago that the Astia microthread fell to archives, unloved).
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what the gently caress posted:Was this taking out your new basket darkbox? All of the flaws have worked well with the subject. Surprised the collodion worked at that age..! Good to see you back into shooting plates No basket darkbox this time, I was using my pseudo darkroom at my parents hobby farm. I had some even older collodion, but you couldn't see through it when you held the bottle to the sun, the stuff that I used was a very deep red, very much on its last legs. Shooting 4x5 plates makes life a lot easier, no need for helper trays or anything, and I've got tons of silver nitrate already mixed up. I think I'll be shooting a lot more of it in the near future.
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I honestly found shooting 8x10's much easier than 4x5s. With 4x5s if you miss a little bit with the developer it's really obvious, but on a bigger 8x10 plate if you do miss a bit, for the most part it's negligible and doesn't chew into the main part of the image too much. I got some helper trays from Lund, as well for both formats and didn't really see any improvement at all. Back to just developing by hand. I remember reading from the Osterman's that you could put a piece of some kind of metal (can't remember which kind) that would act as a cathode to draw some of the iodides out of the collodion so you could re-use it, but you had no way of telling how many iodides you'd lost or something, Might be worth considering if you had shitloads left you didn't want to turf.
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what the gently caress posted:I honestly found shooting 8x10's much easier than 4x5s. With 4x5s if you miss a little bit with the developer it's really obvious, but on a bigger 8x10 plate if you do miss a bit, for the most part it's negligible and doesn't chew into the main part of the image too much. Osterman posted recently about fixing red/old collodion with a piece of zinc, just chuck it in and it's good to go again (but the results are not very reliable/repeatable):  I think my technique/hand movements are probably more suited to 4x5, and probably because thats the format I was taught on by Ellie up at Goldstreet Studios. The volumes of all the chemicals are a lot less, which makes it easy to cart around. I've got the camera and plate holder for 8x10 so I'll probably come back to it at some point.
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Pukestain Pal posted:I should just give up. Same 
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Spedman posted:
Sorry yeah that is all very true. Still, I was really surprised at how easy 8x10 was. If you want some black glass I have heaps of it cut to 4x5 and 8x10 if you want to experiment with that. Just flick me a pm.
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Crosspost from the portrait thread, but I suppose this belongs here. 8x10 paper negative, sepia toned print. My love letter to Lady Clementina Hawarden. Eva at the House by Jason, on Flickr
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