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Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


League number is MLB104506

Draft threads: 1946 1947
Gameday threads: 1946 1947
Spreadsheets: 1946 1947

Ivan's draft spreadsheet
toadee's magic available players script
toadee's year by year player list

Black players were allowed to play without any race riots so welcome to 1948!

In 1947 it was all Shibe all the time as both Philadelphia teams made the World Series. ZJ's powerhouse led the league in wins for nearly the entire season and dispatched uublog's NL Phillies easily in the World Series. The NL West was a bloodbath as PMP, kensei, and Devo (that's me!) all ended up with 100 wins or more. However PMP is a shameful division leader and did all that work to pass me only to fall short of the Series. Over in the AL East MBU went from worst to first before getting taken out by ZJ's monster. Will anyone do that in 1948? Stay tuned!

What is this thing?
This is season three of a progressive league that started with the 1946 season. For those of you that aren't math majors that means we're now playing with 1948 stats in the What If Sports engine. If you don't know what that is there's more information in threads here and here.

What's a progressive league?
A 1946 progressive means we're drafting our franchise using only players that were eligible in 1946. As we finish each season our players will progress to the next season in their career and we will fill holes with new rookies. So your 1946 Ted Williams will be '47 Williams in season 2, '48 Williams in season 3, etc.

Who is eligible to join?
Anyone! And we are looking to fill one spot! But keep in mind that progressive leagues have a little higher difficulty curve than an open league or AV's goon league. If that doesn't scare you off and you don't mind taking over a rebuilding team (albeit one with a very high draft pick) then please post and sign up!

The Rules!
DH: What do you think this is, 1973?
Clones: Science has not progressed this far yet
Trades: YES
Injuries: YES
Salary Cap: NONE
Reserves: Only for ineligible players
AAA: YES. 6/4 Below Average
Teams: 16. 8 NL and 8 AL with two divisions in each league

Draft Order!
Draft order is simply in reverse order of winning percentage from last season, except for the first round. The first six picks in the first round will be determined by lottery and the last four picks in the first round were determined by playoff success.

LOTTERY
(Numbers 1-210 will be drawn on random.org and I will go down the list until all six teams are accounted for)
BOS - 60 chances
BSN - 50 chances
CIN - 40 chances
CLE - 30 chances
BRO - 20 chances
SLB - 10 chances

The Contenders!
NL East
PHI - uublog / @uublog
PIT - Ivan Drago / @rmdriskill
CIN - Power of Pecota / @GeorgeMatanzas
BSN - toadee / @JoseCanseco

NL West
STL - Pumpkin McPastry / @n_schaef
CHC - Devo / @Devo1999
NYG - kensei / @todda70
BRO - gardenald / @gardenald

AL East
DET - Male. Bi. Unix. / @trench_foot
NYY - Accident Underwater / @hey_brian
SLB - Evilbeard / @evilbeard
BOS - ThatsMyBoye / @phrontiersman

AL West
PHA - zamboni jesus / @GuyFoxNews
CHW - Bob Shabazz / @bobshabazz
WSH - Art Vandelay / @thaneoffife
CLE - Alleyviper / @deanleyland

PREVIOUS 1948 TRADES
CHW receives 2nd and 4th round picks from NYG
BRO receives 1st round pick from PHI
PHI receives 3rd round pick from BRO

PREVIOUS 1949 TRADES
BOS receives 2nd round pick from CHI
BOS receives 2nd round pick from NYG

1948 TRADES
BOS receives rights to Barney McCoskey from BRO
CLE receives rights to Birdie Tebbetts from DET
DET receives rights to Cliff Fannin and Bob Muncrief from CLE
STL receives rights to Eddie Miller from PHI
PHI receives 3rd round pick from STL
PHI receives rights to Frankie Gustine from PHA
PHA receives rights to Bob Elliott from PHI
BRO receives rights to Tommy Henrich from PHI

1949 TRADES
PHI receives 2nd round pick from PHA

1950 TRADES
BOS receives 2nd round pick from BRO
BRO receives 1st round pick from BOS
PHI receives 1st round pick from PHA
PHI receives 1st round pick from BRO

Devo fucked around with this message at Feb 21, 2013 around 23:11

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Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


Round 1 draft order

BOS - Robin Roberts
CIN - Richie Ashburn
BSN - Billy Pierce
BRO - Larry Doby
CLE - Alvin Dark
SLB - Roy Campanella
PIT - Curt Simmons
NYY - Ted Kluszewski
WAS - Ned Garver
CHW - Billy Goodman
NYG - Johnny Lipon
CHI - Bob Rush
DET - Hank Sauer
STL - Bob Porterfield
BRO - Vern Bickford / from PHI
PHA - Paul Minner

Round 2
BOS - Wes Westrum
BSN - Whitey Lockman
CIN - Satchel Paige
CLE - Hank Bauer
BRO - Gene Bearden
SLB - Carl Erskine
PIT - Granny Hamner
NYY - Howie Fox
WAS - Danny Murtaugh
CHW - Roy Smalley
PHI - Willie Ramsdell
DET - Tommy Byrne
CHW - Ted Gray / from NYG
CHI - Erv Palica
STL - Lou Brissie
PHA - Cliff Chambers

Round 3
BOS - Don Lang
BSN - Monk Dubiel
CIN - Bob Chesnes
CLE - Herm Wehmeier
PHI - Frank Hiller / from BRO
SLB - Bill Kennedy
PIT - Bud Stewart
NYY - Don Mueller
WAS - Whitey Platt
CHW - Pete Suder
PHI - Dick Kokos
DET - Jess Dobernic
NYG - Carden Gillenwater
CHI - Dutch McCall
PHI - George Shuba / from STL
PHA - Forrest Thompson

Round 4
BOS - Ed Fitz Gerald
BSN - Al Kozar
CIN - Bobby Hogue
CLE - Jim Delsing
BRO - Neil Berry
SLB - Howie Judson
PIT - Bubba Harris
NYY - Gus Niarhos
WAS - Ray Lamanno
CHW - Red Webb
PHI - Matt Batts
DET - Rube Walker
CHW - Al Widmar / from NYG
CHI - Milo Candini
STL - Clyde McCullough
PHA - Marv Rackley

Round 5
BOS - Hank Arft
BSN - Clint Conatser
CIN - Joe Tipton
CLE - Johnny Blatnik
BRO - Cliff Mapes
SLB - Hal Jeffcoat
PIT - Ken Johnson
NYY - Virgil Stallcup
WAS - Ed Heusser
CHW - Tommy Brown
PHI - Putsy Caballero
DET - Junior Wooten
NYG - Clarence Maddern
CHI - George Vico
STL - Woody Main
PHA - Bob Gillespie

Round 6
BOS - Herman Franks
BSN - Jim Blackburn
CLE - Preston Ward
BRO - Gene Mauch
SLB - Hank Schenz
PIT - Joe Ostrowski
NYY - Dick Welteroth
WAS - Eddie Miksis
PHI - Claude Corbitt
DET - Chuck Stevens
NYG - Clem Dreisewerd
CHI - Walker Cress
PHA - Andy Anderson

Round 7
BOS - Emil Verban
BSN - Ted Beard
CLE - Don Lund
BRO - Les Layton
SLB - Don White
WAS - Frank Biscan
PHI - Terry Moore
DET - Benny Zientara
NYG - Bama Rowell
CHI - Ike Pearson
PHA - Lonny Frey

Round 8
BOS - Tony Lupien
BSN - Johnny McCarthy
SLB - Ralph Weigel
WAS - Bobby Sturgeon
NYG - Bill McCahan
CHI - Mike Tresh
PHA - Hugh Casey

Round 9
BOS - Monty Basgall
BSN - Sam Nahem
SLB - Ray Shore
WAS - Charlie Bicknell
NYG - Frank McCormick
CHI - Pete Laydon
PHA - Skeeter Webb

Round 10
BOS - Paul Campbell
SLB - Rudy York
WAS - Alex Konikowski

Round 11
BOS - Blackie Schwamb
SLB - Al Lakeman
WAS - George Binks

Round 12
SLB - Hank Riebe
WAS - Dewey Williams

Round 13
WAS - Howie Schultz

Round 14
WAS - Jack Conway (1947)

Round 15
WAS - Roger Wolff (1947)

Round 16
WAS - NINETEEN FORTY loving SIX MEL OTT BABY WOO

Devo fucked around with this message at Feb 22, 2013 around 00:41

Male. Bi. Unix.
Mar 2, 2007



Hell yeah Detroit owns it's 1948 y'all lets do this thing

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


The available Boston American League team:


RESERVE
Dixie Howell (1949)
Buddy Blattner (1949)
Kermit Wahl (1950)

Need 12 picks (if you decide to keep everyone available to you [which you probably should])

ArtVandelay
Jul 13, 2004



1948 is going to be dire. I need like 17 picks.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


Still need 1948 keepers from kensei, AU, Pecota, and EB

And if anyone knows someone who wants to take that Boston franchise get him in here!

Devo fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2013 around 00:55

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He'll finally get a ring!


Devo posted:

Still need 1948 keepers from kensei, AU, Pecota, and EB

And if anyone knows someone who wants to take that Boston franchise get him in here!

This is second on my list of SA stuff to do, behind naming bad santas. Probably this weekend.

Zamboni Jesus
Jul 3, 2007

We don't really care about what that bug-eyed fat walrus has to say


Devo posted:

And if anyone knows someone who wants to take that Boston franchise get him in here!

or her. let's not gender discriminate the year after breaking the color barrier

Ivan Drago
Jan 17, 2003



I'll try to whip up a quick 1948 spreadsheet template in case anyone else actually uses it. I haven't paid attention to future-pick trades though so someone else can clean that mess up.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


Zamboni Jesus posted:

or her. let's not gender discriminate the year after breaking the color barrier

there's no girls on the internet

Ivan Drago
Jan 17, 2003



Here's the spreadsheet. I've picked up the obvious trades, keepers (for those that submitted lists), updated the inactive list and ranked the draft order in the 2-25 round positions (pending coin flips and lottery).

Power of Pecota
Aug 3, 2007

It is not this bad, there is hope, there is charity, there is sufficient joy, there is compassion, blah blah blah blah Charles Dickens' three ghosts visit Scrooge and he wakes up to life blah blah blah blah...


Sorry, I'll have keepers in tonight. I stopped paying attention to the last thread because it was a lost year for my team.

Power of Pecota
Aug 3, 2007

It is not this bad, there is hope, there is charity, there is sufficient joy, there is compassion, blah blah blah blah Charles Dickens' three ghosts visit Scrooge and he wakes up to life blah blah blah blah...


Cincinnati Venus Flytraps:

Rostered (20)
Vic Wertz
Eddie Robinson
Bobby Brown
Johnny Hopp
Allie Clark
Dick Sisler
Sid Gordon
Vern Stephens
Willard Marshall
Al Zarilla
Gene Hermanski
Al Evans
Les Moss
Ken Raffensberger
Preacher Roe
Ken Heintzelman
Emil Kush
Red Munger
Rex Barney
Mel Queen

Release/Retire (5)
Terry Moore
Nick Strincevich
Carden Gillenwater (from IR)
Emil Verban
Johnny Beazley

IR (1)
Johnny Hetki

If you've got pitching you'd like to move (preferably marginal guys for like, Allie Clark), I'd be interested.

Power of Pecota fucked around with this message at Feb 8, 2013 around 02:05

Ivan Drago
Jan 17, 2003



Power of Pecota posted:

Rostered (21)
Release (4)
IR (1)
There are 22 people on your rostered list and 2 of them are duplicates. That's 20+4+1, but one of your relased players was from the IR, so you're missing someone I think.

Power of Pecota
Aug 3, 2007

It is not this bad, there is hope, there is charity, there is sufficient joy, there is compassion, blah blah blah blah Charles Dickens' three ghosts visit Scrooge and he wakes up to life blah blah blah blah...


Ivan Drago posted:

There are 22 people on your rostered list and 2 of them are duplicates. That's 20+4+1, but one of your relased players was from the IR, so you're missing someone I think.

That's my bad, I double-counted guys making sure not to miss anyone who ended the season in AAA. I was missing Johnny Beazley, who retired.

Ivan Drago
Jan 17, 2003



Power of Pecota posted:

That's my bad, I double-counted guys making sure not to miss anyone who ended the season in AAA. I was missing Johnny Beazley, who retired.
No worries. On the positive side, it's easier to trade guys like Allie Clark when you have a duplicate one stashed away in AAA!

toadee
Aug 16, 2003

North American Turtle Boy Love Association

Ivan Drago posted:

Here's the spreadsheet. I've picked up the obvious trades, keepers (for those that submitted lists), updated the inactive list and ranked the draft order in the 2-25 round positions (pending coin flips and lottery).

Itll be a few days before I can have the script checking the new sheet, Monday night at the earliest.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He'll finally get a ring!


Keeping

Offense
Phil Masi
Babe Young
Snuffy Stirnweiss
Lou Boudreau
Pete Reiser
Johnny Wyrostek
Dick Wakefield
Eddie Joost
Max West

Pitching
Johnny Sain
Bobo Newsom
Mickey Harris
Ken Burkhart
Ralph Hamner
Elmer Singleton
Carl Scheib
Kent Peterson
Denny Galehouse

Reserve

Fine, Tommy

I need 7 Players

e: thanks for updating the spreadsheet, I was just getting it opened!

kensei fucked around with this message at Feb 9, 2013 around 04:55

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


Bump for the "browsing TAQ on a Saturday night wondering if I should join a new league" crew

Does such a crew exist?

Accident Underwater
Oct 21, 2005

@WorkHorse_ebooks hundred million! learn the strikeout ways now


Okay here is my keeper list:
[position]
Jake Early
Johnny Berardino
Luke Appling
Dom Dimaggio
Dixie Walker
Charlie Keller
Wally Judnich
Buddy Rosar
Jack Lohrke
Hal Wagner
Peanuts Lowrey
Roy Partee

[pitchers]
Fritz Ostermueller
Warren Spahn
Schoolboy Rowe
Bucky Walters
Harry Taylor
Orval Grove

Returning for 1948 from reserve list:

Steve Souchock

retired:
Dom Dallessandro
Joe Beggs
Oscar Judd
Ed Bahr

release:
Rudy York

reserve:
Hank Thompson
Eddie Erautt

So, after all of that I need six draft picks.

ArtVandelay
Jul 13, 2004



This is going to die, just like the last one, isn't it.

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA

ArtVandelay posted:

This is going to die, just like the last one, isn't it.

Oh Ye of Little Faith

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders


Hi

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA


Welcome, friend!

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


ArtVandelay posted:

This is going to die, just like the last one, isn't it.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeat it, Art!

ArtVandelay
Jul 13, 2004



Or you can actually thank me. If I hadn't brought it to the top of the page, would TMB have really joined?

I AM A HERO

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


ArtVandelay posted:

Or you can actually thank me. If I hadn't brought it to the top of the page, would TMB have really joined?

I AM A HERO

Yes surely that was the reason

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA

So when should we start the draft?

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


uublog posted:

So when should we start the draft?

I'm going to get coinflips and the lottery going shortly. And we're still waiting on keepers from Evilbeard.

And if we get stuck on rollover in Dimaggio one of you non-HBD players is now contractually obligated to take a spot

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders


Might as well put it on record that I'm keeping all players currently on my roster.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


AU takes tails over twitter and wins the flip against Art. Because tails never fails.

uublog or MBU give me a heads or tails here

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


While we're waiting for one of them to call the shot I'll throw out some lottery numbers...

BOS 1-60
BSN 61-110
CIN 111-150
CLE 151-180
BRO 181-200
SLB 201-210



BOS
CIN
BSN
BRO
CLE
SLB

ArtVandelay
Jul 13, 2004



Is the players available spreadsheet going to be up?

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


ArtVandelay posted:

Is the players available spreadsheet going to be up?

There's a list here. Hopefully toadee gets the magic sheet up in the next couple days to help us all out. Still can't get too far as we're waiting on EB's keepers anyway.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


First round is edited into the second post. I'll get the entire draft order up there as soon as I get the coinflip/keeper situation worked out.

Bob Shabazz
Oct 21, 2008



I have New York NL's second rounder.

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA

Devo posted:

AU takes tails over twitter and wins the flip against Art. Because tails never fails.

uublog or MBU give me a heads or tails here

Let's test that theory - tails

ThatsMyBoye
Nov 21, 2006

I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders


Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


uublog posted:

Let's test that theory - tails



It's a law of nature. uublog wins that flip for rounds 2-X

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Devo
Jul 9, 2001

Catching is a perversion of God's Will


Bob Shabazz posted:

I have New York NL's second rounder.

I'll put that in the second post when I do the complete draft board. I've got it in the OP already so you're all good.

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