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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Oh god I was salivating for a new OUYA thread ever since I saw the latest.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57568183-235/ouya-chief-well-launch-a-new-console-every-year/

quote:

"Our plan is to have a yearly refresh of Ouya where we leverage the best-performing chips and take advantage of falling component prices to create the best experience we can at the $99 price point," Uhrman told The Verge.

Buy a new console every year! That won't run into any production problems at all! We'll make so much money on our marketplace that it won't be an issue.

edit: Is there a way to make it so XboxPants is required to post in this thread at least once every 24 hours? That was the sole point of the last OUYA thread.

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

TOOT BOOT posted:

Do they think the fact that console generations are 5-10 years long is some kind of oversight or something?

You don't understand, they need to ROOT every app for it to work.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

This is going the be the epitaph for the OUYA.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f92t-Th1__g

CoD killer inbound.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Divine Disclaimer posted:

Clearly the Ouya is designed with the next :black101: console war :black101: in mind. Those other consoles will make terrible slingshot ammunition,

Will OUYA get any press at E3? I would love to see their response to the next gen announcements/tech demos.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
4 pages and no xboxpants....guys I'm worried I think he might be dead.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Category Fun! posted:

I'm sure if you asked Apple, Valve, Desura, Microsoft, Sony etc. they'd all say their certification process was the best.

quote:

“It’s similar to mobile: they’ll submit their games, and we’ll review for intellectual property infringement, and malware, and excessive pornography,” CEO Julie Uhrman told Engadget

So, confirmation of pornography games,,so long as they're not too excessive.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Install Gentoo posted:

This was why Mojang decided to actually release on 360 by the way. They saw how popular all the crappy XBLIG clones were getting.

Which means as soon as the OUYA gets Minecraft it then becomes as reliable and legitimate as XBLA.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

AxeManiac posted:

I was reviewing XBL Indie titles 12 at a time in a power hour drinking contest, but I couldn't keep up with the flood of terrible, terrible games. It was nothing but pirate/zombie/cat games and mine craft clones. You could easily play hundreds of crappy games before you found 1 worth your time on that platform. It's almost hypnotic, like playing the lotto. You scratch around looking, hoping for a good game one day and it just never comes.

That's going to be the entire OUYA line up.

I sincerly doubt any OUYA title can compete at the level of "Who Did I Date Last Night?"

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Who-Did-I-Date-Last-Night/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8025855027a?cid=search

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Original_Z posted:

The worst part about the FF3 deal was that they would never stop shutting up about how even the big publishers saw the appeal of the OUYA. Reading the interviews was painful, "it's not like we're some small drop, we've got big names like SQUARE ENIX supporting us!"

To be clear, is this American FF3, the Japanese FF6 or the third FF game that was recently released on the DS and was originally on the NES?

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Requested_Username posted:

is this a cult? this feels like a cult

Well, if you have to ask...

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Hey, what's their business strategy for selling the OUYEAH in the Asian and European markets? If they plan to break the tyranny of the Big 3 surely they mean to compete in all the same marketplaces.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

CharlestonJew posted:

Guys help I just told my PS3 and 360 about the Hooplah and now they're both hanging from a noose in my bedroom please help. Oh god there's wires everywhere.

Bury them out back in a pauper's grave. This is the year of the Booyah, first in the new opensource-zodiac calender.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
I think the Ouya will sell moderately well. People will buy the console alone, find ways to use regular PC game controllers, and there will be a mod/software package they can upload and install to run emulations.

The storefront or whatever they call it will be laughably terrible. I bet they sell less then 1 game for every 20 Ouyas purchased.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

TheGreatGildersneeze posted:

You know, all of these things are giant reasons that over half of the people who funded the FAUXPAS on KS would likely have pulled their funding. Now not only are the developers getting half-assed versions of the console, the backers are getting beta software? How is it even possible that this poo poo flies?

Because of tyranny.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

XboxPants posted:

All I said was:

"Occasionally I may leave the sound muted, and that would be annoying if I were trying to do 10-foot gaming without a mouse."

What's wrong with that?

Wireless mouse?

Every OUYAWHELMING problem you mention could be solved in 5 secs. If having to adjust sound is a barrier to game enjoyment, wouldn't you just end up killing yourself if you ever lost your remote? "Get up and press buttons? gently caress THIS WHERE'S MY KICKSTARTER FOR THOUGHT CONTROLLED VOLUME"

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

XboxPants posted:

This is absolutely true. But why would I want to solve them, when I could just sidestep them entirely? What is gained?

If there is an easy problem that I may either solve, or avoid entirely, why does it make me stupid to choose to just avoid them?

You are paying $100 to save a few seconds before plopping down to play video games for hours.

If you aren't the reincarnation of TobleroneTriangular and this is your purestrain gold then you really should hang yourself if you think every minor inconvenience should be solved by an expensive electronic device.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
"Are you held down by the tyranny of open browsers? Do sound audio controls threaten your safety and well being? Is video rendering forcibly raping you every morning while your family is forced to watch? The video game Messiah has arrived to anoint the chosen and bring fire and damnation to the prophets of the Big 3. Choose OUYA and choose life, or be the first put up against the wall."

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Main character, not creator.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

TheGreatGildersneeze posted:

I don't want to blow your mind or anything, but electrical devices and liquid generally don't mix.

Look at this noob without water cooled duel GPU's.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Does the OUYA have an actual storefront or does it just load the Android app store? And if so how can the Ouya people take a cut of any sales?

If it's a OUYA run storefront that means either they were approved to process credit card purchases or you have to buy everything with a paypal account.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
I'd pay $50 for a BOOMSHAKALAUYA if it came preloaded with a NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, PSX emulator with all their games and an easy to use UI.

I expect a lot of early purchases to be resold as such as people either buy the annual version or get disgusted with the idea of "original content" for the first release.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Radio Paranoia posted:

Yeah, but if you've got 500 Chrome tabs open while running a Minecraft server and rendering video, the SRIRACHA is the far more attractive option for emulating your favourite games of yesteryear.

Motherfucker you guys have been tossing around some creative names for this box of outdated circuits and cheap metal but do not defame the name of the greatest hot sauce ever made by human hands.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

XboxPants posted:

Well like, on the other hand, NVIDIA's senior VP of Content and Technology told Engadget they "have a dedicated team working with OUYA to ensure that Tegra 3's performance is being maximized. They've been amazing to work with." Yeah, that could just mean that they have a sales rep and a tech support guy who are also assigned to other accounts besides OUYA, but NVIDIA has happy to get out there and associate themselves with OUYA. Jon93 was just wrong.


I was actually talking about this but hey, thanks for being an rear end in a top hat about it.

How is a company hired to do what they do normally mean anything? Nvidia didn't seem the GOOYUAH and scream "WE HAVE TO ASSOCIATE OURSELVES WITH THAT!!!" They got a contract and are doing a job, not trying to take over the marketing and advertising for this.

Besides, maximizing the Tegra 3 just means you're getting the most of out outdated hardware, which I can't imagine is some herculean task.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
So what happens when this all falls through and OUYA launches another KS because they budgeted poorly and need more cash now but don't worry once we get that extra $3 million units will arrive by the end of the week?

Sunken-cost fallacy has never been more apparent.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

precision posted:

Dreamcasts are fantastic emulators too. I guess they're probably not cheap anymore, though.

Everyone is fawning over the NES/SNES/N64 emulators for the OUYA, but what about Xbox, PSX, PS2, Dreamcast, Saturn etc? Is the selling point of this HOOPLA that you can play games that were released over 20 years ago that only people who remember playing them at the time actually want? Can the hardware even handle those emulators?

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Uncle Jam posted:

Considering the OUYA chugs on GTA in native android which my xbox handles a bit better, I really doubt it would handle an emulator on top of that as well.

So, the biggest selling point for "the console of the future" is how well it can handle games at a technological level that was surpassed 10 years ago?

OUYA!

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Ugly In The Morning posted:

And still have one of the best hit:miss ratios of any console, too. Sure, it doesn't have a huge library, but most of the games are solid as hell. Weird, but that may be why they work... unlike the system of a thousand 2D runner games.

I picked up about 60 Dreamcast games during the time period where they were still super cheap and Gamestop had used copies of almost every title, 2004/2005, and that is completely true. Sega really gave no direction to its developers and as a result consumers got some crazy unique games. Jet Set Radio, Crazy Taxi, Space Channel 5, Maken X, (A console first person sword-fighter), Seaman (which I would go nuts for a brand new version), Shenmue, and some of the best 2D fighters ever made.

Nothing insanely new and groundbreaking like some of those games ever comes out of major game companies anymore. It's all small studios and indie developers giving us things like Zeno Clash and FTL.

Evil Fluffy posted:

Some modern computers still can't handle PS2 emulation all that well. Anything that runs an N64 emulator is going to run a PSX emulator just as well or better.

I just use my PC on a TV if I feel the need though. Not everyone's house/apartment layout may work for it and spending 2-400 USD to build a media center isn't something everyone wants to do in those cases, but running an HDMI cable along the wall/under carpet from the PC to a TV and switching over the display and using a wireless KB/M with wireless 360 controllers is wonderful.

I had to explain the very concept of an HTPC to someone who wanted a way to use a TV screen for Netflix, Youtube etc. The vast majority of people wanting to devise a media center type system will either have someone they know do it, or go into Best Buy and pay $2000 for the equipment and $500 for installation and 'calibration'.

The OUYA is never going to reach that segment of the marketplace no matter what Julie Uhrman claims. It will forever be the hobby of people technically knowledgeable enough to buy a $20 cable and connect a PC tower or laptop to a flat-screen HDTV yet somehow obsessed with the idea that a rubix cube sized box with the power of a phone can do the same thing but at worse performance.

pentyne fucked around with this message at 02:15 on May 7, 2013

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Zaphod42 posted:

I think he means IR?

What are the wireless protocols for regular consumer wireless devices? Keyboards, mice, printers, controllers, etc? Is it really that hard to connect an device to a receiver and get it to register a button input?

All my wireless mouse says is FCC something and IC numbers. That reminds me, did the OUYA people verify that their product meets all regulatory guidelines?

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
I make sure to vacuum out the sockets to remove any residual aether vapors.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

zylche posted:

Where's the 3 PCs sitting around the tv and the horrible mess of cables Pants talked about?

Also remember every computer has 40+ tabs open in firefox which is why Xboxpants need a KEEWPUH so he can play games without them running really slowly.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

miscellaneous14 posted:

Look on the bright side: these guys just ponied up $15 million to continue one of the greatest trainwrecks of this year.

Eagerly awaiting the sales figures for 2013

"Don't worry. We only sold 12,000 new units, but the 60,000 people who got a KS Ouya will buy the 2014 model OUYA, so please give us more money."

O Hanraha-hanrahan posted:

She's really hammering this point home so that when the backers kick off about receiving a beta version while retail gets the fixed model, they can just say they were previews. Amazing.


Does someone want to break out a calculator and figure out how many games they need to sell with their 30% cut just to pay back that $15 million investment?

This makes Rhode Island's deal with 38 Studios look like an astute investment.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

quote:

“Free to try is a core tenant of OUYA,” said Uhrman. “We wanted a gaming experience for the television that’s inexpensive to get into. Developers monetize however they’d like to, which is why we have games with unlockable demoes inside a fully paid version, or micro-transactions, and even a donation based game. I’m looking forward to the first episodic, subscription-based game,” she said.

What the gently caress does that even mean?

Pay $5 a month and hope that one of the 12,000 developers can release each game episode in a timely manner?

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
You know what this reminds me of?

quote:

For one contract, in July 2000, Enron and Blockbuster Video signed a 20-year agreement to introduce on-demand entertainment to various U.S. cities by year-end. After several pilot projects, Enron recognized estimated profits of more than $110 million from the deal, even though analysts questioned the technical viability and market demand of the service. When the network failed to work, Blockbuster withdrew from the contract. Enron continued to recognize future profits, even though the deal resulted in a loss

"This will definitely be a success. The OUYA will sell like a smartphone and everyone will buy a new one each year!"

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

BrettRobb posted:

According to Mark Cuban, a lot of the ideas chosen on shark tank never actually get funded after they complete the investigation. This also actually happened to a local woman who was chosen on the show for her fridge magnets, once they realized the product and business model was poo poo they bailed.

This should've been applied to KS. Is there a site that tracks failed KS that took money and returned nothing, or even just crapped out a really terrible product and vanished?

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

DoctorStrangelove posted:



I changed the animation a bit, now it lingers on the Y being stuck for a little bit longer. As to show that being stuck under the is the default position, and thereby making it more realistically depict the OUYA experience..

This is probably the highest quality thing that will ever be produced solely for the OUYA.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

XboxPants posted:

The registration cut-off for E3 booths was quite a while ago. There's a pretty good chance that OUYA didn't pick up that money until after that point.

It insures that the only people who check them out will be people with a pre-existing interest, instead of random passers-by who would just judge them fairly based on what is presented. Even more importantly, it helps prevent the OUYA platform and games from being compared directly to the rest of the stuff at E3.

Probably a good move.

Nothing says serious like a console launch here



Hope the Icon Ultra Lounge doesn't get too busy and push the XHOYAA overflow crowd into the bus stop crowds.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Are there any LA goons willing to document the OUYA parking lot extravaganza? Since there's no barrier to entry someone should go with a full "press regalia", camera, badge, cameraman and interview everyone there.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

bagina posted:

Full 1930s newsie regalia would be ideal. The big fedora, the even bigger camera with the yet bigger flash dome...



Christian Bale's look in the middle would probably be the best, but there's something to be said for the checkered pants.

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Fallom posted:

The Android scene is kind of sad because people keep making My First Android Game and posting it on Reddit with some story about how hard they worked on it and how much it would mean to them for it to be successful.

When it comes to creative projects you need to start one, put in all that time and money you can't really afford, and get it in some sort of presentable state after months of labor. Then put it away and never, ever show it to anyone. Then try again and do it better. Then on round 5 you might have something that'll make you some money.

Probably the same people who screamed about being discriminated against when Steam Greenlight established the $100 dev accounts to stem the tide of people posting racist MS paint 'games'.

That and the outpouring of 'gamer journalism' criticizing a $100 barrier to entry to (maybe) sell games on the biggest DDL platform around are pretty much the OUYA's targeted market.

BREAK THE CHAINS OF THE BIG 3 (AND STEAM'S EVIL DRM)! KOOOOOOOOOOOPLAAAAAAAAAAA!

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