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Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010



Apologies if this has been done before.

Were you a kid with a computer in 1995? Did you like to try to do creative things with it? Well then, you might remember McZee.



McZee was a pretty cool dude. He was the host of 3D Movie Maker by Microsoft, part of their Microsoft Kids range.



3D Movie Maker was, uh, a tool that allowed you to make 3d movies. It came with a bunch of pre-fabricated backgrounds, several characters, a few props, some sound and some music. It was easy to create something terrible, and incredibly intricate and difficult to make something that was slightly below mediocre. Why? Well, this was the interface.



Hrm, maybe that's not quite a good enough way to illustrate just how cumbersome the interface was for doing anything that required fine tuning. Try this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo4h3rhvrrY

Back in 1995, I was ten years old. For a few years, I spent an insane amount of time on this thing. In a fit of nostalgia, today I wikied it. What's this little link down the bottom, I asked?

quote:

3dmm Community - A hub of hype, mods, discussion, and sharing of movies created with 3DMM.

Oh yeah, I remember those communities. People got really inventive with that program, repurposing text, cubes, spheres and props in really creative ways. "Surely that link is dead, I thought."

It isn't.

In this forum you can witness what appear to be advanced computer users from the year 2013 wrestling with operating 3DMM on a virtual machine, porting models and textures into it (including from Quake source files), complaining about the texture quality that is being used by newcomers, touting their newly modeled lightsabers, asking how to get 3DMM working on an Android phone, and, well, making movies.

Movies like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsDr4hgYQVw

I have so many questions about the high quality 3d animation extravaganzas that are being produced in the second decade of the 21st century using a highly modified version of a kid's game that is nearly 20 years old. But this is the one that's nagging me the most, and I'd appreciate any help that GBS can offer.

What is "the 3dmm dvd scandal" referred to in this thread?

If you don't know the answer, that's okay. I hope you won't feel like this thread was a waste of your time. Maybe instead you could go find a recent 3DMM release and share it with the rest of us.

Those On My Left fucked around with this message at Feb 10, 2013 around 22:28

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The Dark Project
Jun 25, 2007

It is not an easy thing to see a Keeper... especially one who does not wish to be seen.

I seriously doubt anyone will come up with a better movie than the Flight 93 one. It has everything.

canadianclassic
Nov 3, 2004
Hay guys, what do I type here?

Wow I remember trying to make a bunch of violent movies on this thing when I was about 9. It was so hard to do anything with it everything was about 10 seconds long and ended in a large "explosion".

I wish I was as talented as the flight 93 guy

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

Your Starbucks latte comes with alien symbols traced in black marker, ephemerally familiar. Later, you realize that nobody ever called your name.


The Dark Project posted:

I seriously doubt anyone will come up with a better movie than the Flight 93 one. It has everything.

Oh really

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010




Whoa is that really 3dmm?

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005



3D Movie Maker is responsible for one of the best videos on all of YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGJKeESLBpQ

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

A product of Hugs Boson Industries


I had the Nickelodeon version. I don't think I ever figured out to make limbs move so everyone just teleported everywhere with their limbs splayed out

Farecoal fucked around with this message at Feb 10, 2013 around 09:09

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

Your Starbucks latte comes with alien symbols traced in black marker, ephemerally familiar. Later, you realize that nobody ever called your name.


Those On My Left posted:

Whoa is that really 3dmm?

I'm not actually certain that it is, but as soon as I watched the example you posted it clicked. It seems pretty similar, but either way it deserves to be posted in this thread.

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title


How the hell do humans come up with this stuff?

xzoto1
Jan 18, 2010

How's life in a bigger prison, Dae-su?

I remember spending hours on this program. Back in 1996 when a computer with a processor running at 180 MHZ and 32mb of RAM was $2000.

The Rage
Jun 28, 2007

This cat is wizard



I was hoping this nightmare fuel would show up. Now we just need Aaron's bear or whatever the other one was called.

Black Pants
Jan 16, 2008

Such comfortable, magical pants!

Awww yeah, this came in a bundle of random nonsense that came with my computer, including Encarta. I wish I could remember what I did with it but it was surely nothing interesting.

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT


Holy poo poo. My friend and I dorked around on this in 95-96 and then we promptly forgot about it. I didn't know it was still around, let alone an ACTIVE community making something like that Flight 93 one. When loving Johnny 5 appears I about lost it.

Mr Wind Up Bird
Jan 23, 2004

i'm a goddamn coward
but then again so are you


My computer only had the Spider-Man Cartoon Maker

It was very easy to create something very irritating. My dad hated that thing.

jalopybrown
Oct 11, 2012

Much Mother-Fucking Wicked Clown Love


Those On My Left posted:

What is "the 3dmm dvd scandal" referred to in this thread?

Based on the stuff in the video and some googling it appears to refer to this http://3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=44657

88h88
Feb 25, 2011


Farecoal posted:

I had the Nickelodeon version. I don't think I ever figured out to make limbs move so everyone just teleported everywhere with their limbs splayed out

I had the very same. I sat there for about an hour before giving up which makes these all the more impressive.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010



jalopybrown posted:

Based on the stuff in the video and some googling it appears to refer to this http://3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=44657

Hahahaha, fantastic. So basically one of these guys took pre-order money for a DVD that he never produced, and it's finally being released after 8 years?

jalopybrown
Oct 11, 2012

Much Mother-Fucking Wicked Clown Love


Those On My Left posted:

Hahahaha, fantastic. So basically one of these guys took pre-order money for a DVD that he never produced, and it's finally being released after 8 years?

Upon further inspection it appears what has been released is a joke prop for 3d movie maker, in this thread http://3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=44646&page=2 Janus is the guy who was supposed to make the DVDs and here's the announcement from 8 years ago http://www.3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=3580

Lord Dangleberry
Mar 29, 2007

um jist...ecstaticly happy

I loved this game, we got it with our very first family PC. I used to make kung-fu movies with it, using the Chuck Norris lookalike character as the star.

My brother also used this game to recreate the twin tower attacks days after they happened, complete with characters jumping from the buildings.

McZee was loving annoying though, I can't remember under what circumstances, but his voice used to appear loudly at one point while you were busy creating poo poo, I think it was when you hovered the mouse pointer over a certain button.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010



jalopybrown posted:

Upon further inspection it appears what has been released is a joke prop for 3d movie maker, in this thread http://3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=44646&page=2 Janus is the guy who was supposed to make the DVDs and here's the announcement from 8 years ago http://www.3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=3580

Amazing.

I also uncovered this page, which seems to be something of a compilation of all the drama that went on in the 3DMM scene over the years. http://www.askfactmaster.com/3dmm

More details available here: http://s9zq5r.tripod.com/news.htm

jalopybrown
Oct 11, 2012

Much Mother-Fucking Wicked Clown Love


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijN7WqJKEiQ

Everything about this attempt to educate on a serious subject is beautiful, from the way the cop runs to the seizure animation and especially the seductive business man on the medical plane.

junopsis
Dec 28, 2008


Oh god. There is a 2D version, just "Movie Maker".
It had a fill-in-the-blank line generator. The gibberish that came out of that thing was... I don't even.
And then we would set it to the singing voice.

runupon cracker
Jan 13, 2006

This will hurt me more than it hurts you.

The Rage posted:

I was hoping this nightmare fuel would show up. Now we just need Aaron's bear or whatever the other one was called.

Do you mean Colin's Bear Animation? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiARsQSlzDc

I don't think that one was 3DMM though.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

Four phases.

One-two-three-fucking-four phases.

Also, mods should be doing more of this custom title shit to maintain the funny. I don't mind the , but it reflects poorly on the forums.

runupon cracker posted:

Do you mean Colin's Bear Animation? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiARsQSlzDc

I don't think that one was 3DMM though.

"Thanks for nothing"

Everyone remembers 3D Movie Maker, but nobody remembers Stunt Island.

caleramaen
Mar 29, 2006
Even if I'm wrong, that doesn't mean you're right.

runupon cracker posted:

Do you mean Colin's Bear Animation? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiARsQSlzDc

I don't think that one was 3DMM though.

Whatever it was, it was amazing.

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008


caleramaen posted:

Whatever it was, it was amazing.

Colin's Bear is the result of the guy's three year stay in a graphics program.

roboshit
Apr 4, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post


This has always been a favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFGc2XHi5hE


Pretty sure this is not 3DMM but thanks for posting anyway, this guy's videos are great.

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caleramaen
Mar 29, 2006
Even if I'm wrong, that doesn't mean you're right.

Blast of Confetti posted:

Colin's Bear is the result of the guy's three year stay in a graphics program.

That is even more amazing. It's hilarious and terrible and the guy who made it was incompetent.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009


caleramaen posted:

That is even more amazing. It's hilarious and terrible and the guy who made it was incompetent.

He wasn't incompetent. He specifically based his final project around exactly what he learned in the class and exactly what the teacher expected of him in the project. He did everything that was asked for the video and got an A with Colin's Bear. He was very upset.

caleramaen
Mar 29, 2006
Even if I'm wrong, that doesn't mean you're right.

Takoluka posted:

He wasn't incompetent. He specifically based his final project around exactly what he learned in the class and exactly what the teacher expected of him in the project. He did everything that was asked for the video and got an A with Colin's Bear. He was very upset.

Oh...well that's something else then. Well it's still hilarious and terrible, just intentionally so I guess.

taupoke
Apr 26, 2008


HOLY SHIT I'M TRIPPING BALLS


"I'll trade you a magic trick for a vase" -

Benbola
May 24, 2004
mantras zeitgeist hubris

No way my computer could have run this back then. I did have the Bugs Bunny movie maker though.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009



Does anyone remember 3D Construction Kit (1991)? You could make simple 3d adventure games with it... or more likely be driven to madness. The utility came with a promotional/instruction VHS cassette.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCSb-s2cu4U

Pick
Jul 19, 2009

Share food?


I could never find all the character profile pages. And I clicked EVERYTHING! Absolutely everything!!!

Yossarko
Jan 22, 2004



I spend many years of my childhood playing with 3dmm. I just looked on YouTube and somebody posted one of my movies not so long ago, I made it in 2001 though (I was 15).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kuoPr1JM4Q

(it was my attempt at drama)

Yossarko
Jan 22, 2004



taupoke posted:

"I'll trade you a magic trick for a vase" -

Each totem on the pole is a symbolic representation of one's family.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

I am going to fight capitalism even if it kills me.

I think it is wrong that people like you should be comfortable and well fed while all around you people are starving

SAME RHETORIC, SAME RESULTS.

KNOW YOUR HISTORY.


When I was growing up I didn't have all that 3D Movie Maker nonsense. But what we did have was Theatrix's Hollywood. It wasn't 3D, but it was good enough for me.

Daddar
Nov 13, 2003

What the fuck is the Internet?

Talk about a Nostalgia trip! I remember spending hours upon hours when I was 11 or 12, creating intense car crash and fight scenes.

melon cat
Jan 21, 2010



I must have sunk 200 hours into this wonderful game as a kid. The demo came on a Windows 95 demo disc, which also had the Weezer Buddy Holly music video, for some reason.

Does anyone remember the lesser-known variant Nickeloden 3D Movie Maker? Same thing, just with Nick characters.

Really unfortunate that a similar game, updated game wasn't released in later years.

Pick posted:

I could never find all the character profile pages. And I clicked EVERYTHING! Absolutely everything!!!
I could never find that paper bag on the head guy's profile.

melon cat fucked around with this message at Feb 10, 2013 around 18:16

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CaptainCaveman
Apr 15, 2005

Always searching for North.


Three-Phase posted:

Everyone remembers 3D Movie Maker, but nobody remembers Stunt Island.

Oh man Stunt Island was awesome. I spent so much time on that thing.

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