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Sullivan County is about an hour North of me. It's a pretty rural county, overall pretty poor, very white, and very "traditional". Now, to top all of that off, they're on a new race to the bottom as they attempt to keep THE GODDAMN GAYS out of their high school prom. Fair warning, that article is a shitpile written by a local news correspondent. Actually, everything on that site is pretty awful, they're local for a reason, after all. Anyway, here's the article for those who are afraid of a massive piece of Flash poo poo:quote:
tl;dr I am a motherfucking public school teacher and have gay friends and I like them, BUTTTTTT not at my prom because being gay is a choice and wrong! Also they are like my special needs students  That this kind of bigotry still exists is bad enough, but that this teacher is still employed is even worse. There are petitions to have her fired, but the administration of the county is equally bigoted and lovely. The community backlash from the surrounding urban counties is hilarious and massive, to the point where the police have stepped in because threats were made. I'll edit this post as the inevitable shitstorm continues to build.
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Everytime I hear the terms "states rights" or "smaller government" I am reminded of situations like this where the majority oppresses the minority because the federal laws aren't there to protect them.
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| # ? Feb 11, 2013 18:19 |
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I'm okay with this as long as there's a separate 100% Gay Prom. It would be better decorated and full of lesbians.
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What I Learned: Gays and retards are put into good Christian lives for the good Christian's benefit  Of course they still have to burn in hell for eternity afterwards because no exceptions. quote:"Jesus gave us armor for the front, not the back; we're not running anymore," said Bill Phegley with Carlisle Church. Is this his version of "I'm ready for you"? Divine Disclaimer fucked around with this message at Feb 11, 2013 around 18:28 |
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Cantorsdust posted:I'm okay with this as long as there's a separate 100% Gay Prom. It would be better decorated and full of lesbians. "Separate but fabulous" still relies on prejudices against gay people, even if the prejudice displayed is that gay people have better fashion sense. Not all gay people have good fashion sense!
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I have gay friends but really I think they're an abomination and need to be purged from the Earth. My friends are cool with that though. What, you want to meet them? They, uh, they live in Canada. You wouldn't know them.
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ImpAtom posted:I have gay friends but really I think they're an abomination and need to be purged from the Earth. My friends are cool with that though. What, you want to meet them? They, uh, they live in Canada. You wouldn't know them. I love you man Now 
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Might help if you put what state you hate in the OP. For everyone else, Sullivan County is in Indiana, apparently.
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| # ? Feb 11, 2013 18:37 |
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I love you, you're just an unacceptable aberration. It's nothing personal, you understand. I don't dislike you, per se, the way you are just makes my stomach roil!
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Don't feel too bad, OP: And the posts in the comments section are pretty encouraging. Of course, 85% of the respondents are probably other well-educated yuppies from far outside Wabash Valley.
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quote:"Jesus gave us armor for the front, not the back; we're not running anymore," said Bill Phegley with Carlisle Church.  "
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ImpAtom posted:I have gay friends but really I think they're an abomination and need to be purged from the Earth. My friends are cool with that though. What, you want to meet them? They, uh, they live in Canada. You wouldn't know them. I love Dan Savage's response to the fact that this keeps coming up: Dan Savage posted:What really interests me about the HuffPo interview, however, is Elizabeth's claim to have gay friends. Elizabeth Santorum—follow her on Twitter @esantorum2012—has gay friends. Just like her father. And Rick Warren and Joel Osteen and Donny Osmond and Sarah Palin. All the high-profile homophobes seem to have gay friends. Or at least they claim to have gay friends. No one has ever met—and no reporter has ever asked to verify the existence of—one of Rick Santorum or Elizabeth Santorum or Rick Warren or Joel Osteen's gay friends.
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| # ? Feb 11, 2013 18:45 |
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The jokes on them, without gays their prom is going to consist of boredom and a lovely spotify playlist.
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MY Wabash Valley posted:"Homosexual students come to me with their problems, and I don't agree with them, but I care about them. It's the same thing with my special needs kids, I think God puts everyone in our lives for a reason," said Madley. Wow, I have never seen that before and jesus gently caress that is a horrible thing to say as a school teacher. gently caress this place, gently caress Wabash Valley.
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FinalGamer posted:Okay, hold the loving phone. Did this little bitch just compare a sexual orientation with loving mental disabilities? edit: in Japan it's still an accepted position today, it seems. Along with AIDS being a gay disease and so on. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at Feb 11, 2013 around 19:05 |
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quote:Local man Jim Davis says we've all sinned...so why should gays be treated with less respect? Something here about God hating Mondays or something
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InstantInfidel posted:being gay is a choice I question any person who says this and I question their sexuality. If you seriously think you can force yourself to be attracted to something you actually aren't attracted to, it's you. You're the gay. (PS: I actually am gay and recall when Bill O'Reilly compared to "kids thought James Dean smoking cigarettes looked cool so they tried it and now if kids think being gay is cool they will try that too" and my first legit thought was "you'd seriously have to be gay but in denial to be able to think that"). Do these people think the average straight man was taught to be attracted to large breasts? If they want to argue you that you are in fact "taught" that because of breastfeeding, wouldn't way more women who were breastfed be lesbians? I...I just can't.
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quote:"We want to make the public see that we love the homosexuals, but we don't think it's right nor should it be accepted," said a local student. "We want the public to see that we can have our cake and eat it too", said a local redneck, who later said that he wasn't racist, but interracial marriages were sinful in the eyes of the Lord.
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Milky_Sauce posted:Bill O'Reilly Don't bother trying to figure his logic out. That way lies madness.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Hey, it wasn't that long ago that that WAS the accepted position. If you missed the last say, 30 years of gay rights activities, that would be a normal thing to think. And clearly there are a lot of people out there who missed the last 30 years of societal change (looking at the TPC thread). That is unusual to me, Japan Guy. I would have thought the Japanese to be more progressive than us in this respect despite their strong conservatism and traditional family values.
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Constance Goes to Prom 2: The Bigots Strike Back
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Divine Disclaimer posted:That is unusual to me, Japan Guy. I would have thought the Japanese to be more progressive than us in this respect despite their strong conservatism and traditional family values. edit: also they see it as a thing the West inflicted on them, even though like any society they have a tradition of homosexuality going far back into history.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Well, unlike us they don't have a religious opposition to homosexuality, just a "look at those weirdos, they're gross" opposition. A country full of tentacle surprise sex and gays are the weirdos.
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Pope Mobile posted:A country full of tentacle surprise sex and gays are the weirdos.
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Everything from that school teacher follows the classic "i'm not a bigot, I even got gay friends, but..." defense.
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| # ? Feb 11, 2013 19:18 |
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quote:"Jesus gave us armor for the front, not the back; we're not running anymore," said Bill Phegley with Carlisle Church.
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Three Olives posted:I love Dan Savage's response to the fact that this keeps coming up: Oh neat, Dan Savage, now there's a well-rounded and totally accepting gay man and not at all a bigoted douche himself 
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The idea that homosexuality is "offensive to us" or "We don't think it's right or should be accepted" as a defense against this glaring example of bigotry underlines one of the failings of the religious. They can disrespect other groups but demand us to respect their beliefs or ideologies. If you're "offended" boo loving hoo. You are entitled to an opinion but not entitled to respect for it.
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mrae posted:The idea that homosexuality is "offensive to us" or "We don't think it's right or should be accepted" as a defense against this glaring example of bigotry underlines one of the failings of the religious. They can disrespect other groups but demand us to respect their beliefs or ideologies. Religion is some scary poo poo, for this very reason. It teaches people that only their beliefs are right, and everyone else is inferior.
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I chose to have a mental disability because gently caress the police.
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FinalGamer posted:Okay, hold the loving phone. Did this little bitch just compare a sexual orientation with loving mental disabilities? Kids these days. Prepare to weep: http://www.lgbt-ep.eu/press-release...s-mentally-ill/
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taupoke posted:The jokes on them, without gays their prom is going to consist of boredom and a lovely spotify playlist. Also the Electric Slide.
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To be fair, this is in southwestern Indiana. It doesn't get much more conservative than that.FinalGamer posted:Okay, hold the loving phone. Did this little bitch just compare a sexual orientation with loving mental disabilities? The irony is that she's a special ed teacher.
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Milky_Sauce posted:I question any person who says this and I question their sexuality. If you seriously think you can force yourself to be attracted to something you actually aren't attracted to, it's you. You're the gay. {clears throat} BISEXUALITY! The gay/straight false dichotomy drives this line of thinking too. If you think about sexuality only in absolutes, then there will be awkward surprises since for many people it's fluid. Yes, there are actually straight men and they're usually the ones who go "Cock? Meh..." And there are gay men who have been unimpressed by feminine charms since kindergarten. But there are also a lot of people who think that if they get attracted to a person of the same sex that must mean that they're gay. Thus, you're on the right track, but it has also to do with bisexuals in a homophobic culture with a gay culture that sees them as invisible and what I'll dub the "one cock rule" of gayness. These people could really be honest about their susceptibility to attraction to both sexes, and unable to come up with terms for it that don't involve uncomfortable levels of self-hate.
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I hate your state too.quote:"If we can get a good prom then we can convince more people to come and follow what they believe," said student Kyoon Johnson. It all makes sense. 
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How can homosexuality be a choice and a mental disability at the same time? At least choose one or the other, people.
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Milky_Sauce posted:I question any person who says this and I question their sexuality. If you seriously think you can force yourself to be attracted to something you actually aren't attracted to, it's you. You're the gay. The "gay is a choice" argument vs. "people are born gay" is a politicization of a much more complex empirical issue of nature vs. nurture. It's also a false dichotomy. Gay as a choice essentially means sexual preference is a result of socialization, which, if you're stupid you'll distill down to "it's a choice." The things you internalize because of complex processes of socialization are generally beyond your control. Our culture tends to deny this, though, because we like to think we are all autonomous individuals with FREE CHOICE and we are not products of society. The "born gay" argument is based on findings that show that a portion of the variance in explaining sexual preference can be explained by genetics. If you don't understand this research, you'll distill this finding down to "gay is in the genes," as if genetics can determine complex patterns of behavior. Saying being gay is in the genes is just as dumb as saying cheating on your spouse is because of a "cheating gene" or criminal behavior can be explained by a "crime gene." Your example with breasts is problematic. Standards of beauty and what is deemed attractive does vary based on culture, and personal preference often is the result of internalized norms (i.e., socialization). A fetish over huge tits, for instance, is culturally relative and does vary based on time and place. If you look at the U.S. today, we certainly seem to place more emphasis on this today than other societies did in the past. The alternative explanation to what you present would be that straight men are born with an attraction to large breasts -- it's in the DNA or something. That's some biotruth poo poo right there.
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What I'm really tired of is people using Christianity to rationalize their own bigotry. I'm pretty sure that the command, "love one another" doesn't come with any stipulations. I mean drat, people deserve to be treated with respect as long as they're not actively harming you, and even then you're supposed to love and forgive. Hypocrisy is the absolute worst thing.
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DasReich posted:What I'm really tired of is people using Christianity to rationalize their own bigotry. I'm pretty sure that the command, "love one another" doesn't come with any stipulations. I mean drat, people deserve to be treated with respect as long as they're not actively harming you, and even then you're supposed to love and forgive. Hypocrisy is the absolute worst thing. But gay people are actively harming them! It's icky watching two dudes kiss. We're also destroying marriages and families somehow, but it's never really explained.
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