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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003



CAustin posted:

How can homosexuality be a choice and a mental disability at the same time? At least choose one or the other, people.
It's the same kind of logic I see in people who believe gays/blacks/arabs/gays/whatever are both subhuman, but also organized and powerful enough to be a threat to their way of life. Not being logically internally consistent is a hallmark of hate.

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lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

Take your, heh, SHOT at world domination

So from what I've learnt about America, half of these students will grow up to repent their stupid views, gain some common sense and accept gay people for who they are. The other half will be doomed to occupy Hover-Rascals. Am I close here?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003



lorn Wayne posted:

So from what I've learnt about America, half of these students will grow up to repent their stupid views, gain some common sense and accept gay people for who they are. The other half will be doomed to occupy Hover-Rascals. Am I close here?
What on earth is a hover-rascal? A quick googling didn't tell me anything.

Capilarean
Apr 10, 2009


I like that of all people a special needs teacher believes that all people were created equal. I guess deaf people just chose to be that way?

Pope Mobile
Nov 12, 2006

Talked to Jesus lately? More bars in more churches, synagogues, mosques and all other places of worship, guaranteed.

He means rascal or hoveround.

BAKA FLOCKA FLAME
Oct 9, 2012
If you see me posting in the trans megathread, report me so I can be banned! Thank you!

love, the management

Probably means a Rascal that is hovering, because it'd be the future at that point.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

I thought he meant a futuristic hovering rascal that will be invented when the bigoted kids grow up into big fat lazy adult bigots.

plaguedoctor
Jun 26, 2008

I CAN DUMP MY GIRLFRIEND CAUSE SHE'S LIKE A WHORE, RIGHT GUYS? RIGHT???

Samurai Sanders posted:

What on earth is a hover-rascal? A quick googling didn't tell me anything.



e: vvv heh

CAustin
Jan 22, 2010

I'm a Lil' Brony!

Samurai Sanders posted:

What on earth is a hover-rascal? A quick googling didn't tell me anything.

I think he's referring to a future version of one of these:

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

Take your, heh, SHOT at world domination

BAKA FLOCKA FLAME posted:

Probably means a Rascal that is hovering, because it'd be the future at that point.

Yeah pretty much this, welp sorry for the terrible joke.

Also didn't know 'hoveround' was actually a thing.

Divine Disclaimer
Jan 24, 2013

He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife.

Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped there wasn't an afterlife.

DasReich posted:

What I'm really tired of is people using Christianity to rationalize their own bigotry. I'm pretty sure that the command, "love one another" doesn't come with any stipulations.


Except for that stipulation explicitly stating you can enslave your neighbors, of course. I guess you're just supposed to love your slaves, which brings the Bible's definition of the word love into question.

I became an atheist instead of a theist because I was a kid who actually really loved reading and when they handed me a bible; I kept it to myself but always thought it was really hosed up! (that people give this tome to children) They would complain about me reading Stephen King or whatever in church and I would think, poo poo- none of you even read this fucker huh? Their big thing was that fiction was distracting me from The Truth and it was this diversion by the devil, but ironically the fiction was always more morally sound.

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Jersey Mike
Jan 12, 2010


The number one issue I have with the line of thinking these people use is that not everyone on this loving planet follows the same religion. Just because your religion says being gay is wrong does not mean other people must suffer for what they don't believe in. It's sick and it's pathetic to expect everyone else to adhere to your own personal standards. The fact that they violate their own moral values of loving their fellow individuals is what really takes the cake home.


If you want to hate on gays because that's your religious or moral belief, then fine. But do so very, very quietly, because the rest of us with open minds don't want to loving hear it.

DasReich
Mar 5, 2010


NoneSuch posted:

But gay people are actively harming them! It's icky watching two dudes kiss. We're also destroying marriages and families somehow, but it's never really explained.

That's not entirely fair! Marriages and families can destroy themselves without the help of the gays.

I know your being sarcastic here but the fact that this is literally people's thought process saddens me.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003



lorn Wayne posted:

Yeah pretty much this, welp sorry for the terrible joke.

Also didn't know 'hoveround' was actually a thing.
I didn't know what a Rascal was either, as far as I knew those are just motorized wheelchairs. I assumed it was some foreign thing and that's why I didn't get the joke.

InstantInfidel
Jan 8, 2010

BEST I EVER SPENT

So, this just went national. I'm sad that it's gone this far, but at the same time, this much negative coverage will almost certainly force the school board of Sullivan County to pull their heads out of their collective rear end and do something, which I can only hope (but will probably be disappointed to hear is not) the right thing.

Divine Disclaimer
Jan 24, 2013

He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife.

Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped there wasn't an afterlife.

Everything that offends me should be silenced.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012


I don't know why this comes up every year.

How many gay couple are there in any given school? There will be one or two in a crowd of many.

Then again I've never known anyone in the employ of a school to allow any aspect of anything to go uncontrolled.

ElectricSheep
Jan 14, 2006


To be fair, they're probably worried any gay attendees might spike the punch with homo juice.

But seriously, that teacher is despicable.

onecooldana
Jan 29, 2006

I'll wait for you forever,
Merkel my love!

How many people are in this group? The article just says "several", then quotes a couple jerks. I'd feel slightly more comfortable if it was only a small handful of idiots.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003



skooma512 posted:

I don't know why this comes up every year.

How many gay couple are there in any given school? There will be one or two in a crowd of many.

Then again I've never known anyone in the employ of a school to allow any aspect of anything to go uncontrolled.
Well, it's more useful to think about the 10% or so of the students who are gay but who are afraid to find a partner because their school is run by people like this.

editL

onecooldana posted:

How many people are in this group? The article just says "several", then quotes a couple jerks. I'd feel slightly more comfortable if it was only a small handful of idiots.
Oh yeah, I guess we don't know if any of the school admins are in on it, just this one teacher. If the admins are being the sensible ones while teachers are assholes that will be quite a reversal from what I'm usually used to.

Divine Disclaimer
Jan 24, 2013

He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife.

Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped there wasn't an afterlife.

ElectricSheep posted:

To be fair, they're probably worried any gay attendees might spike the punch with homo juice.



Don't answer the door if the S.E.A. (Straight Enforcement Agency) men come.

They knock if they don't have a warrant. No need to fab out and flush your poo poo.

h_double
Jul 27, 2001


CAustin posted:

How can homosexuality be a choice and a mental disability at the same time? At least choose one or the other, people.


It's like voting Democrat

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Well done, Hopkins!


I'm not American. Prom's in your senior year, before you graduate, right?

It is such a loving petty thing to do, to exclude a bunch of kids from something that's meant to be a fun, lasting memory for everyone. Instead, whether the lovely folks trying to segregate their prom succeed or not, they'll at least have succeeded in giving the gay kids a lasting reminder that some people in this world are just complete loving holes, ready to unite in their dislike of people who've done nothing to them, because it gives them a sense of power over others.

Red_Mage
Jul 23, 2007

No seriously, fat stacks of disposable income.

--<3, Traditional Games


InstantInfidel posted:

That this kind of bigotry still exists is bad enough, but that this teacher is still employed is even worse. There are petitions to have her fired, but the administration of the county is equally bigoted and lovely. The community backlash from the surrounding urban counties is hilarious and massive, to the point where the police have stepped in because threats were made. I'll edit this post as the inevitable shitstorm continues to build.

The teacher is loving terrible, but I genuinely hope the bigots do have their own "no gays allowed" prom, since the School has said they aren't going to ban gays from the real prom.

Students will have 2 choices, the prom, or the creepy dance put on by the church and conforming with the churches moral standards (which are going to go a lot further than banning gays). And all but the most hardcore of evangelicals at the Church Prom are going to be spiteful and resentful about how their bigoted parents screwed them out of prom.

Cardinal Ximenez
Oct 25, 2008

The 'X' is a voiceless velar fricative.


Red_Mage posted:

Students will have 2 choices, the prom, or the creepy dance put on by the church and conforming with the churches moral standards (which are going to go a lot further than banning gays). And all but the most hardcore of evangelicals at the Church Prom are going to be spiteful and resentful about how their bigoted parents screwed them out of prom.

Really? Because what really ends up happening is pretty horrible and sounds like something that would come out of the mid-1960s.

h_double
Jul 27, 2001


Samurai Sanders posted:

It's the same kind of logic I see in people who believe gays/blacks/arabs/gays/whatever are both subhuman, but also organized and powerful enough to be a threat to their way of life. Not being logically internally consistent is a hallmark of hate.

Yeah that seems to be a pretty universal thing when other-ing a particular population, to simultaneously ridicule and demonize them.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

OH JOY! Militaristic rhetoric used in regards to treating a group that a bunch of bigoted Christians don't like as dogshit, bringing back vestigial memories of the countless atrocities committed in Jesus's name by other Christians who decided to think of the Galilean pacifist as a military general. I love it when they do that - makes it much easier to dismiss the worthless asswipes.

quote:

"Christians have always been prepared for a fight. Jesus gave us armor for the front, not the back; we're not running anymore," said Bill Phegley with Carlisle Church.

"...Except we're running to a separate prom where we get to exclude gay people."

quote:

Jesus gave us armor for the front, not the back;

Yes, you simply *must* leave the back-armor off so the devil can shove his gay-hating cock in your rear end and sit-and-spin puppeteer you around to spew hateful bullshit in Jesus's name.

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vyst
Aug 25, 2009

Hoegaarden and Friendship.

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davidspackage posted:

I'm not American. Prom's in your senior year, before you graduate, right?

It is such a loving petty thing to do, to exclude a bunch of kids from something that's meant to be a fun, lasting memory for everyone. Instead, whether the lovely folks trying to segregate their prom succeed or not, they'll at least have succeeded in giving the gay kids a lasting reminder that some people in this world are just complete loving holes, ready to unite in their dislike of people who've done nothing to them, because it gives them a sense of power over others.

Typically Juniors and Seniors, but your point is still valid.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

I wish Lady Gaga or some other celebrity known for gay rights would come to this lovely prom, invite only the gay, bi, or transgender students to her awesome kitbash party, and let Born This Way play from every speaker on the loving limo as they head off to some cool party.

gently caress the morons who say they love the sinner but hate the sin. You goddamn rednecks, Ghandi said it so much better: I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians.

And somewhere in the heavens Jesus is shaking his head and screaming, You me-drat morons, I said I hated FIGS.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003



h_double posted:

Yeah that seems to be a pretty universal thing when other-ing a particular population, to simultaneously ridicule and demonize them.
Somehow governments always pull it off with their war propaganda though. It's one of those things that makes me think that doublethink is actually the natural state of humans, and that it's reconciling your beliefs with each other that takes education and training.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Divine Disclaimer posted:

Everything that offends me should be silenced.

We're not afraid to run away no more! Jesus gave us armor for the front but didn't give us butt-armor! We are brave because we are scared of getting boo booed in the butt!

Paulywallywalrus
Sep 10, 2012


gently caress, they are just kids. Why can't they get a drat break from all this stuff. Even if you don't wanna treat a homosexual with dignity you could at least be enough of an adult to treat a kids with some respect. I remember my gay friends being pushed around and prom and despite that I had a kick rear end time with them. I mean, they were so happy and we had such a wonderful time. I just don't understand the hatred.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003



Paulywallywalrus posted:

gently caress, they are just kids. Why can't they get a drat break from all this stuff.
But that's exactly the anti-gay argument, they interpret gays being allowed at the prom as dragging kids into a political debate as well.

Daysvala
Mar 11, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 16 days!


Paulywallywalrus posted:

gently caress, they are just kids. Why can't they get a drat break from all this stuff. Even if you don't wanna treat a homosexual with dignity you could at least be enough of an adult to treat a kids with some respect. I remember my gay friends being pushed around and prom and despite that I had a kick rear end time with them. I mean, they were so happy and we had such a wonderful time. I just don't understand the hatred.

From child soldiers in africa to hitler's youth, I think most people stop treating children as innocents when it stops being convenient to do so.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Samurai Sanders posted:

But that's exactly the anti-gay argument, they interpret gays being allowed at the prom as dragging kids into a political debate as well.

Also: LGBT students trying to form their own student body representation group or a student club group or an anti-bullying support group to prevent gay teen suicide all get interpreted as 'a perversion club.'

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003



Spacedad posted:

Also: LGBT students trying to form their own student body representation group or a student club group or an anti-bullying support group to prevent gay teen suicide all get interpreted as 'a perversion club.'
I dunno if it helps head that off or not but in both high school and college that club was called the gay-straight alliance. I always liked that name.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

The Corgiest Teddybear




Oh jeez, I had forgotten about that. I'll be right back, I'm going to go pull a Sherman on the South.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010


So wait, being gay is a choice and a direct action from god which is it teacher-person?

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

Milky_Sauce posted:

I question any person who says this and I question their sexuality. If you seriously think you can force yourself to be attracted to something you actually aren't attracted to, it's you. You're the gay.



I tried to repress my attraction to men for 10 years. Guess what-- it's not a loving choice!

This surprises me. I guess it is one stupid school in some podunk town, though. I live in Florida (of all places) and we had gays at my prom in 2004.

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Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Samurai Sanders posted:

I dunno if it helps head that off or not but in both high school and college that club was called the gay-straight alliance. I always liked that name.

Whatever name the group in question goes by, you will sometimes have school districts where rear end in a top hat evangelicals in the area start foaming at the mouth and declaring the group to be a place of 'perversion.' Instead of community spirit & activities, morale support for struggling and possibly suicidal kids, outreach & understanding, etc.

Basically, gays aren't people - they're sexual robots who automatically pervert everything, in these insane freak-of-nature religious bigots eyes.

It's yet another case of homophobes thinking *wayyyyyy more* about gay sex than the targets of their ire.


On that note - do any of you (who aren't some grotesque envious couple-hating manchildren) think "GOD THOSE TWO ARE loving AND ITS GROSS AND DICKS GOING INTO VAGINAS UGH" when you see a heterosexual couple kissing & holding hands? Because that's the reaction gay people get for kissing and holding hands - apparently we simply can't stop sex-obsessed weirdos from imagining how much weird kinky sex we *obviously* must be having in private.

It's a question of immaturity in regards to a human primary impulse. Instead of being mature intelligent rational adults approaching sexuality in a sane manner, they treat human sexuality the way that anorexics and bullemics treat food. They're completely obsessed with all perceived signs of sex, and its denial & elimination, to the point of being downright unhealthy - but in the case of homophobes, not just for themselves, but for others around them. Bullemics at least puke into a bucket in private; homophobes take their verbal diarrhea onto the road to try to inflict their hatemongering sickness on the rest of society, and try to ban gays from things.

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