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Funkysauce
Sep 18, 2005
...and what about the kick in the groin?

ukrainius maximus posted:

Arthur Ave. up in the lovely Bronx still keeps it going pretty well for the most part but I definitely agree with you about fake Little Italy down in Manhattan.

My eyes have been opened though thanks to this thread. I've only ever had those small little fish and chip fillets and god damnit I feel like I've been getting ripped off all this time.

Stay out of my neighborhood you goons! But yes seriously it's the only "real" Little Italy left in NYC. Go to Calandra's for cheese, they make it on site (my brother worked there for 6 years) but be advised the line can go down the block. Especially near Easter.

Fish and chips are great but the pub near me makes it too watery so I usually pass. But I do love me some malt vinegar on chips!

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Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003



Funkysauce posted:

Stay out of my neighborhood you goons! But yes seriously it's the only "real" Little Italy left in NYC.

Bensonhurst and Bay Ridge in Brooklyn are still very Italian, and I don't think many tourists go there. And Staten Island is definitely very Italian in many areas.

Although much like the original Little Italy, Bensonhurst is increasingly Chinese.

Divine Disclaimer
Jan 24, 2013

He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife.

Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped there wasn't an afterlife.

If you're so keen to them, why don't you just marry a fryer and make your own fries?

You fry them. They are fries. Chips are baked (preferably), and crunch when you bite them.

Fahrenheit is dumb though, I'll give you that.

Mrs. Mahler
Mar 8, 2006
Why a duck?

Funkysauce posted:

Stay out of my neighborhood you goons! But yes seriously it's the only "real" Little Italy left in NYC. Go to Calandra's for cheese, they make it on site (my brother worked there for 6 years) but be advised the line can go down the block. Especially near Easter.

And then go to Borgotti's to get some ravioli!

This thread is making me want fish and chips. Any good places in NY?

Also, to get back to the original post, the story reminds me of the NYC guy who broke up a fight on the subway while happily stuffing his face with chips (crisps). http://gothamist.com/2012/04/10/pot...stops_fight.php

Time_pants
Jun 25, 2012


PringleCreamEgg posted:

Man falls on screwdriver, makes up a story to make it sound way cooler.

But did he hold on to his fish and chips?

devious pudding
Sep 8, 2008

Higly illogical, Captain.


Lancashire? Yorkshire? South Wales?

Nope, the best fish and chips in the UK is in Somerset.
Glastonbury precisely, home to Knights, the oldest fish and chip shop in the UK.
They have the most amazing pea fritters there too.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010


Mrs. Mahler posted:

This thread is making me want fish and chips. Any good places in NY?

I've had good experiences with both A Salt and Battery in northern Greenwich Village off of 14th Street and 8th and Chipshop on 5th Avenue and 7th in Park Slope, Brooklyn. There's also another Chipshop over by the Barclay's Center off of Atlantic, but I'm not really clear where. Chipshop is a bit cheaper and is a sit down type place with table service, while A Salt and Battery is a bit more expensive and feels a bit more authentic as a place where you go and just get fish. It's also right next a tea shop called Tea and Sympathy, owned by the same people. Both of the restaurants are run by English expats, so you should have no problem with the quality of the food. A Salt and Battery doesn't serve Cod anymore, since they say its overfished, and have switched to Pollock instead, but they're pretty much just there for fish and chips. Chipshop has a lot more British food besides fish and chips like pies and stuff.

Man, talking about all of this has made me crave fish and chips now...

Cream_Filling
Sep 11, 2005
More generally, I worry that the whole 'animal rights' viewpoint is sort of decadent or even dangerous since it can serve to reduce the value of human life when it tries to elevate the value of animal lives.

Divine Disclaimer posted:

If you're so keen to them, why don't you just marry a fryer and make your own fries?

You fry them. They are fries. Chips are baked (preferably), and crunch when you bite them.

Fahrenheit is dumb though, I'll give you that.

Baked chips are a crime against snackdom. You should be ashamed.

But I do think that "crisps" is arguably more descriptive and accurate than "chips." And this is speaking as an American. When you think of wood chips, you don't think of thin slices of wood, either. Of course, this would then usurp the US definition of crisps, which means dough formed into a thin shape and then fried crisp (e.g., Pringles). And it would cut loose tortilla chips, though I suppose tortilla crisps is still acceptable and makes sense.

I will instead defend Fahrenheit for thermostats and environmental temperatures, because one degree celsius is a bit too coarse compared to one degree Farenheit, but adding decimals to temperatures is just clunky.

Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Suffolk yet, the home of Adnams Ale and inbreeders!

In particular there is a place on the coast at Dunwich called Doris' Cafe which is literally 30 meters from the sea. they close every day at 5 but this is only because they run out of fish. you see they get their fish direct from the fishermen who fish in the North sea in their small tugs and drag their boats back onto the beach at around 8am so every day they have a specials board with whatever else the fisherman manage to catch that day. Mostly it is lemon sole or skate, but sometimes they have lobster or crab.

The fish is so fresh it's practically still moving, and they have the whole Adnams ale batter down to a tee to go with it.

Anyone who gets fish and chips from London and thinks it is anything like the real thing is horribly mistaken. Even my local chippy will serve you a medium haddock which is almost a foot long with a bag of chips that could feed a small family for a week, and that's for about a fiver!

Cpt.Wacky
Apr 17, 2005


Limp Wristed Limey posted:

My tea:



Not the best chippy in the world but it filled the gap. I give it 6.5 out of 10.

I didn't notice at first but the ruler is sitting on a hamburger bun or "bap". A local restaurant does "gourmet" burgers and one is fish and chips in a bun. Where does this fit in the realm of fish and chips? Is it common in certain areas? Does it have a proper name?

Limp Wristed Limey
Sep 7, 2010

Bitcoins are the path to freedom.


Cpt.Wacky posted:

I didn't notice at first but the ruler is sitting on a hamburger bun or "bap". A local restaurant does "gourmet" burgers and one is fish and chips in a bun. Where does this fit in the realm of fish and chips? Is it common in certain areas? Does it have a proper name?

Thats a bread cake not a hamburger bun. You buy the bread cake to put chips in. The bread cake and the chips together create a chip butty. Chip buttys are delicious and should always be created.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.


The best fish and chips I ever ate was from Aldeburgh, I think it's because the fish has to travel so far to get to the frier and then my face

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005



Limp Wristed Limey posted:

Thats a bread cake not a hamburger bun. You buy the bread cake to put chips in. The bread cake and the chips together create a chip butty. Chip buttys are delicious and should always be created.

With scraps, you've got to have scraps in there.

Just now, I live 900km from the sea in the middle of China. The picture that Limp Limey posted almost made me weep.

ajheretic666
Sep 8, 2008


Its like a quarter to 4 in the morning and this drat thread makes me want to go to a chippy. Fucks sake.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010


This thread made me really hungry for fish and chips after talking about them earlier, so I went to Chipshop in Park Slope and indulged myself. So drat full right now...

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style


Limp Wristed Limey posted:

Thats a bread cake not a hamburger bun. You buy the bread cake to put chips in. The bread cake and the chips together create a chip butty. Chip buttys are delicious and should always be created.

Yeah, just in case you haven't got enough carbs with the whole "chips" thing.

I never understood chip butties. I mean, how could bread be tastier than, I dunno, more chips?

Anyway this thread has made me take a trip to my chippy for two evenings in a row. Now I've got to diet for the rest of the week, but it was worth it.

Otik
Apr 5, 2005

Psycho log baby

I'm another one of those who prefers a battered jumbo sausage with my chips when I go to the chippy, but these days I live in Finland, where there are no chippies and the closest I can get to a decent British sausage is a German-style bratwurst.

I miss my sausage suppers enough I would happily take a knife for one. I'm half-serious.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008


Rah! posted:

You east coasters think you have it special with your stupid clam bakes and your chowders and your lobsters and your crab cakes.

The North Atlantic does have two sides to it, you know

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008


Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

What the hell is that crap supposed to be? I'm assuming you've never had proper fish and chips in the UK.

That fish looks like some processed poo poo that came out of a freezer, and don't even get me started on those "chips" - they look McDonald's fries or something.

The coleslaw is also a bit of an American giveaway. Motherfuckers can't get enough coleslaw with their 'fish and chips'

Reiterpallasch
Nov 3, 2010

Five...more...minutes...

gently caress I made a big pan of baked steel-cut oats and now I want deep-fried fish and greasy potatoes. Do any San Francisco goons have a favorite fish and chips shop in the city?

Limp Wristed Limey
Sep 7, 2010

Bitcoins are the path to freedom.


Otik posted:

I'm another one of those who prefers a battered jumbo sausage with my chips when I go to the chippy, but these days I live in Finland, where there are no chippies and the closest I can get to a decent British sausage is a German-style bratwurst.

I miss my sausage suppers enough I would happily take a knife for one. I'm half-serious.

Whenever my mum would go to the chippy I would always ask her to get me a big sausage not. Not that I enjoyed eating it or anything, just the thought of my mum asking for one amused me.

NaDy
Jan 29, 2006



devious pudding posted:

Lancashire? Yorkshire? South Wales?

Nope, the best fish and chips in the UK is in Somerset.
Glastonbury precisely, home to Knights, the oldest fish and chip shop in the UK.
They have the most amazing pea fritters there too.

Finally some sense in this thread. Somerset is great for it, and I'll add cornwall to that too. Freshly caught in the morning, then battered as gently caress by lunch.

Also not to be a party pooper or anything but if you guys do have some fish and chips please don't get Atlantic Cod, Hake or Haddock. Populations of all of those fish are close to collapse and will be extinct very soon thanks to ridiculous fishing quotas.

Holy Doughnuts!
Oct 20, 2010

Sergeant Butterman, the little hand says it's time to rock and roll.


devious pudding posted:

Lancashire? Yorkshire? South Wales?

Nope, the best fish and chips in the UK is in Somerset.
Glastonbury precisely, home to Knights, the oldest fish and chip shop in the UK.
They have the most amazing pea fritters there too.


My aunt lives near Papa's Fish Bar in Weston-Super-Mare and I submit that establishment as a paragon of fishy wonder.

Provincial fast food rivalry ITT

Limp Wristed Limey
Sep 7, 2010

Bitcoins are the path to freedom.


NaDy posted:

Finally some sense in this thread. Somerset is great for it, and I'll add cornwall to that too. Freshly caught in the morning, then battered as gently caress by lunch.

Also not to be a party pooper or anything but if you guys do have some fish and chips please don't get Atlantic Cod, Hake or Haddock. Populations of all of those fish are close to collapse and will be extinct very soon thanks to ridiculous fishing quotas.

Now you have made me want to eat them more!

haakman
May 5, 2011


Dravs posted:

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Suffolk yet, the home of Adnams Ale and inbreeders!

In particular there is a place on the coast at Dunwich called Doris' Cafe which is literally 30 meters from the sea. they close every day at 5 but this is only because they run out of fish. you see they get their fish direct from the fishermen who fish in the North sea in their small tugs and drag their boats back onto the beach at around 8am so every day they have a specials board with whatever else the fisherman manage to catch that day. Mostly it is lemon sole or skate, but sometimes they have lobster or crab.

The fish is so fresh it's practically still moving, and they have the whole Adnams ale batter down to a tee to go with it.

Anyone who gets fish and chips from London and thinks it is anything like the real thing is horribly mistaken. Even my local chippy will serve you a medium haddock which is almost a foot long with a bag of chips that could feed a small family for a week, and that's for about a fiver!

Don't forget the Aldeburgh chippies. On a hot day you can find queues at both shops, stretching all the way through the town. Or (and this is the only reason to ever go there) Papa Noel's in Ipswich.

edit: Beaten. Balls.

Socket Ryanist
Aug 30, 2004



"Is that a screwdriver?"

"A phillips screwdriver... the worst kind!"

Cream_Filling
Sep 11, 2005
More generally, I worry that the whole 'animal rights' viewpoint is sort of decadent or even dangerous since it can serve to reduce the value of human life when it tries to elevate the value of animal lives.

Socket Ryanist posted:

"Is that a screwdriver?"

"A phillips screwdriver... the worst kind!"

Actually probably not:
http://link.springer.com/article/10...-0562-9?LI=true

Quantification of forces required for stabbing with screwdrivers and other blunter instruments posted:

In the UK, stabbing is the most common cause of homicide. The weapons used include knives, swords, screwdrivers and glass shards. Quantifying the exact force used in a stabbing incident is considered to be a difficult area due to the large number of variables present, such as sharpness of weapon, angle of attack and relative movements of the people involved. Having quantifiable data would allow a forensic pathologist to make a more informed decision when it comes to answering the commonly posed question in court “what was the degree of force involved in the stabbing incident?” The answer to this question is considered significant in determining an alleged assailant’s intent to cause harm. This paper presents results of the first detailed study relating geometry of screwdrivers to the forces required for penetration. Additionally, a range of other blunt weapons such as pens and chisels have also been studied. A silicone rubber–foam analogue has been used as the main skin simulant owing to it having similar mechanical properties to that of human skin and giving highly repeatable results. Different screwdrivers of varying shape and size have been tested (i.e. slotted, Phillips, posidriv and Torx), along with other implements including chisels and pens. The weapon geometry was characterised and related to the peak force required for penetration. Our results show that there is a direct correlation between the cross-sectional area of a screwdriver head and the amount of force required for penetration. Screwdrivers with larger cross-sectional areas require a significantly greater force to penetrate (forces in the region of 100–120 N) but “sharper” slotted screwdrivers penetrate with much lower forces (∼30 N). The forces required for penetrating the rubber–foam analogue with screwdrivers are higher than for “sharp” knives, but in some cases similar to the forces required for stabbing with “blunt” knives. For the other weapons such as chisels and biros, the force required for penetration was again high and there was found to be a good relationship between area of the implement making contact and penetration force.

Ahdinko
Oct 27, 2007


The best fish and chips I've ever had was in Birmingham. It was voted best chip shop 2007 or something (I went there in 2008 and have never been back to Birmingham so I don't know if it got any more awards)

They fry everything in beef dripping. It tastes amazing.

shas
Jul 27, 2011



In a disappointing turn, it has emerged that pretty much all of the original story is a lie.

Wisbech Standard posted:

A PUB landlord has admitted to police he lied about fighting off four attackers outside a Wisbech fish and chip shop.

The alleged attack- which made international news after John Wood, 37, first told his story to the Wisbech Standard - never happened.

The ‘heroic’ derring-do pub landlord from the Marshland Arms has even been forced to cough up an £80 fixed penalty notice for wasting police time.

Police have refused to confirm the precise nature of Wood’s confession but said, in a brief statement today, that a “37 year old male was yesterday issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice for wasting police time”.

How Wood received his wounds - seen by our reporter and photographer - is not known but police are assured he did NOT get them from fielding off attackers.

Wisbech you continue to disappoint me.

shas fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2013 around 14:01

Fonzarelli
Aug 15, 2004

Jumping the Shark

That son of a bitch, I feel absolutely betrayed.

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style


shas posted:

In a disappointing turn, it has emerged that pretty much all of the original story is a lie.


Wisbech you continue to disappoint me.

Ah yes, in the great British tradition, some wanker gets a pint, a fight, and a takeaway (always in that order) - and then invents a story afterwards to make him look well 'ard.

A Sloth
Aug 4, 2010

Bradypus variegatus
Schinz, 1825


quote:

Is nothing sacred in broken Britain?

Fish and Chips.

Fire Safety Doug
Sep 3, 2006

99 % caffeine free is 99 % not my kinda thing

He is not just wasting police resources, he is harming our collective faith in all hard men who have fought off overwhelming opposition and lived to tell the tale down the pub.

Limp Wristed Limey
Sep 7, 2010

Bitcoins are the path to freedom.


Poor old Winston is spinning in his grave, broken

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style


Fire Safety Doug posted:

He is not just wasting police resources, he is harming our collective faith in all hard men who have fought off overwhelming opposition and lived to tell the tale down the pub.

We'll still have this chap:



HERO CABBIE posted:

“I’ve heard people say since that he was shouting ‘Allah!’ but I didn’t hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me”

Mr. Gibbycrumbles fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2013 around 14:27

shas
Jul 27, 2011



Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

We'll still have this chap:



Not if the referendum goes the way the SNP would like it to!

Fire Safety Doug
Sep 3, 2006

99 % caffeine free is 99 % not my kinda thing

I'm laughing so much. Don't mess with Glasgow!

Limp Wristed Limey
Sep 7, 2010

Bitcoins are the path to freedom.


Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

“I’ve heard people say since that he was shouting ‘Allah!’ but I didn’t hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me”

We have reached peak , brings a tear to my eye just like the sound of spitfire engines and the thought of hanging immigrants who eat our swans.

HatfulOfHollow
Sep 28, 2000

Dancing is forbidden in the land of [SA]HatfulOfHollow

This whole story would have been way better if it took place in a tube station. At midnight.

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Dravs
Mar 8, 2011

You've done well, kiddo.

HatfulOfHollow posted:

This whole story would have been way better if it took place in a tube station. At midnight.

If that were the case then the muggers would have been fighting him FOR his fish n chips not in spite of them.

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