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Which will you pick?
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Acheron 111 7.37%
Alecto 17 1.13%
Cerberus 256 16.99%
Erebus 98 6.50%
Eurydice 51 3.38%
Heracles 18 1.19%
Hypnos 82 5.44%
Lethe 59 3.92%
Obol 42 2.79%
Orpheus 106 7.03%
Persephone 149 9.89%
Styx 264 17.52%
Sexteroid 135 8.96%
Impastabowl 119 7.90%
Total: 1507 votes
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Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!


NOW WITH UPDATES! (BELOW)

plutorocks.com posted:

Images taken by the Hubble Space Telescope in 2011 and 2012 revealed two previously unknown moons of Pluto. So far, we have been calling them "P4" and "P5", but the time has come to give them permanent names. If it were up to you, what would you choose?

Goons, we have a chance to name the two newest moons that have been discovered orbiting Pluto. Generally, all of the names on the poll deal with the Roman mythology surrounding Hades and the Underworld - but they are also accepting names via a write-in form.

Voting ends at noon EST on Monday, February 25th, 2013.

A little background info:



Pluto was discovered in 1930, and much like this contest, the discovering observatory was open to suggestions. Thanks to an 11 year old nerdgirl who loved comic books, this new planet was not named Percival or Constance (thank the gods for that), but was instead named after Thor's enemy - the god of the Netherworld. Our 11 year old hero was awarded a hefty sum of GB£5 for her contribution.



In keeping with the cold and dark tradition of underworld-related namings, Pluto's 3 moons were:

Charon

From wiki: "the ferryman of Hades who carries souls of the newly deceased across the rivers Styx and Acheron that divided the world of the living from the world of the dead."

Nix and Hydra

In mythology, Nix was the mother of Charon, and the Greek goddess of darkness and night. Hydra is the nine-headed serpent which battled Hercules in Greco-Roman Mythology. The nine heads of Hydra are a reference to Pluto's tenure as the ninth planet little did they know that this tenure was to be short lived; its initial, H, refers to the Hubble Telescope which discovered Hydra and, together with Nix, to the New Horizons mission whose safe passage was the motivation for taking the Hubble images. (also from wiki)



In 2006, some haters said Pluto wasn't big enough to call a planet any more and demoted it to a simple trans-Neptunian object. This caused much controversy and rekindled the centuries old it's not the size that matters - it's the motion of the ocean debate.



Bill Nye the Sciency Guy posted:

We're calling it a dwarf planet. I like the term "ice dwarf." … These are the objects smaller than, let's say, 1,500 kilometers … made of ice. … Ice dwarf -- there it is: It's icy, it's small, it's out there.

Bill Nye the Sciency Guy condones astronomical dwarf-planet discrimination, so I guess it's okay.

shown: Bill Nye holding life size Pluto replica


So here are the two new moons:

The moon currently known as P4

hubblesite.org posted:

P4 is the smallest moon yet found around Pluto, with an estimated diameter of 8 to 21 miles (13 to 34 km). By comparison, Pluto's largest moon Charon is 746 miles (1,200 km) across. Nix and Hydra are roughly 20 to 70 miles (32 to 113 km) wide.

The new moon lies between the orbits of Nix and Hydra, two satellites discovered by Hubble in 2005. It completes an orbit around Pluto roughly every 31 days.more here)

The moon currently known as P5

hubblesite.org posted:

The newly discovered small moon, designated P5, is the innermost of the moons found by Hubble over the past seven years.

The diagram shows that P5 is in a 58,000-mile-diameter circular orbit around Pluto that is assumed to be co-planar with the other satellites in the system.

Though Charon (discovered in 1978) is an even closer moon to Pluto, some astronomers consider the Pluto-Charon pair a "double planet" because of Charon's is 12 percent of Pluto's mass (by comparison our Moon is .01 percent Earth's mass). (more here)"

The Official Poll

Here are the official options:

    Acheron: One of the five rivers of the underworld, symbolizing pain.

    Alecto: One of the furies, hideous snake-haired monsters who were servants of Hades. It was the job of Alecto to punish mortals for their crimes of anger.

    Cerberus -or- Kerberos: The three-headed dog who guards the gates to the underworld, preventing the the dead from escaping.

    Erebus: A primordial god and the personification of darkness. With Nyx, he fathered many children including Hypnos and Styx.

    Eurydice: The wife of Orpheus, for whom he entered the underworld. During their journey home, Orpheus violated his agreement with Persephone not to look back, and Eurydice was lost forever.

    Heracles -or- Hercules: The heroic demigod who slew the Hydra, entered the underworld and who also carried Cerberus back. He is one of very few who ever returned from the underworld.

    Hypnos: A son of Nyx and the personification of sleep.

    Lethe: One of the five rivers of the underworld, symbolizing oblivion. It flows through the cave of Hypnos and merges with the river Styx.

    Obol -or- Obolus: The coin paid to Charon in order to obtain passage across the river Styx.

    Orpheus -or- Orfeus: A gifted musician who entered the underworld to retrieve his wife Eurydice. He charmed Hades and Persephone with his music, and became the only mortal ever to return from the underworld.

    Persephone -or- Proserpina: A goddess kidnapped by Hades to become the queen of the underworld. She is the symbolizes vegetation and rebirth.

    Styx: The river that separates Earth from the underworld. This name also refers to the goddess of the river Styx, daughter of Nyx and Erebus.

    NEW NAMES

    Elysium: The special part of the Underworld reserved for heros and the righteous.

    Hecate: An ancient goddess associated with witchcraft and the Moon.

    Melinoe: A nymph, bringer of nightmares and madness.

    Orthrus: The brother of Cerberus, but with only two heads instead of three.

    Sisyphus -or- Sisyphos: A Greek king, punished by Zeus to spend eternity in Tartarus, forever pushing a boulder up a hill, only to have it roll back again.

    Tantalus -or- Tantalos: An criminal condemned to spend eternity in Tartarus, tortured by having food and water forever just out of reach.

    Tartarus -or- Tartaros : The lowest dungeon of torment in the Underworld.

    Thanatos: The daemon personification of Death and inexorable fate, although once overpowered by Heracles/Hercules.

    Vulcan -or- Hephaestus: Roman God of fire and smoke, son of Jupiter/Zeus, nephew of Pluto/Hades.

As of the writing of this post, the current tally (which can be viewed here), is Styx and Cerberus by a long shot.

So, which name(s) will you vote for? You can vote for as many names as you want, and you can vote once per day. We just may be able to turn the tide, should the goon hive-mind all agree.

Cast your vote!

UPDATE!

Several names have been added to the ballot! However, none of them really matter besides Vulcan.

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

HEY NERDS

In an effort to remain relevant, Philanthropist, Actor, Producer, Father, Husband, and Grandfather William Shatner wants YOU to vote for Vulcan.

It seems James Tiberius Kirk himself has been busy getting Vulcan officially added to the ballot in the vote to name Pluto's new moons. In between his tweeting about reddit, 4chan, and his new movie #EscapefromPlanetEarth, he's been keeping his twitter updated with this exciting news.



He tried for Romulus too, but that's already a goddamned moon.

As of now, Vulcan is in a close third, right behind Styx and Cerberus. If these nerds keep it up, it looks like we will have Styx and Vulcan as the two moons. Is that okay with you?



So I ask you, goons, do you fight for Captain Kirk?

That was 2 days ago (as of this edit), and now, Vulcan is reigning champion with only 9 days left.

All of these new names are pretty awesome, but honestly stand no chance against the mighty Trekkie force. At this point, I think it's best to ignore all of the more obscure names and focus on dethroning Vulcan - as it makes no sense in the context of what Pluto and the surrounding mythology represents.



Vulcan and Styx

Vulcan or Cerberus

If we do not dethrone Vulcan, the results will be one of those two options.

Fiendish Dr. Wu fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2013 around 14:07

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Shaman Ooglaboogla
Jan 11, 2011

Tzeentch can suck it.

I find it disappointing Styx and Cerberus will make the cut just because they're the most familiar sounding. It should be Cerberus and Erebus, gotta follow that rhyming.

C.C.C.P.
Aug 26, 2005

by Y Kant Ozma Post


"Well, gently caress YOU. If I can't be a planet, I'll be my own planetary system!"

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!


Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:

I find it disappointing Styx and Cerberus will make the cut just because they're the most familiar sounding. It should be Cerberus and Erebus, gotta follow that rhyming.

Actually those are the 2 I voted for

EnabledAssman
Dec 29, 2008


While Cerberus is the obvious choice, the other should be called Persephone because it's the coolest sounding.

And Orpheus, come on, that would be silly it sounds like orifice.

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.

Voting for Styx, because they are the best band.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007


I voted for Acheron to keep the rivers of Hades thing going and Styx is too obvious, and for Eurydice (even though I know it won't win) because there's something cool about that story being associated with one of the furthest out objects in our solar system. Might trip out a future astronaut going to another star as (s)he passes it one day.

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!


EnabledAssman posted:

And Orpheus, come on, that would be silly it sounds like orifice.

And so close to Uranus too

Not A Bear
Nov 4, 2009


Oh come on - how is Hercules not an easy shoe in?

That's no moon - its loving Hercules!

Meowjesty
Oct 23, 2009


No wonder you're like this.


Not A Bear posted:

Oh come on - how is Hercules not an easy shoe in?

That's no moon - its loving Hercules!

Hercules already has his own galaxy. Being named after a moon would be a downgrade at this point.

Wingless
Mar 3, 2009

Gloves: So as not to touch this filthy reality.


Man, I'm not sure a dwarf planet that is neither the closest, nor the largest, nor the smallest, nor the furthest of the dwarf planets is worth all this attention.

Voting Cerberus and Erebus because they rhyme. I would vote for Hypnos and Thanatos (twin brothers of sleep and death, respectively), except they left out Thanatos for some mysterious and stupid reason.

A GLISTENING HODOR
Aug 8, 2009

lemoncakes?
lemoncakes?
fucking lemoncakes?
stop POSTING about FUCKING LEMONCAKES


Cerberus. Now you got a Greek Mythology/Dog theme going with Pluto.

The Rage
Jun 28, 2007

This cat is wizard


Weedlord and Bonerhitler. Get on it Internet.

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

A product of Hugs Boson Industries


Any two of the river names seem to be fine by me.

Farecoal fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2013 around 00:19

Luth
Nov 7, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Styx, because they are a lame 80s band and I think NASA should start ironically naming every new moon or planet after things that are terrible but still kinda campy and fun. The next new planet to be discovered should be named Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure.

Luth fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2013 around 01:01

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

I rather like Orpheus and Euridice, they go together. If we were starting from scratch the five moons should be the five underworld rivers, but that ship has sailed

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008



It's a shame that Persephone is unlikely to win.

Persephone being in the underworld is the mythological explanation for the seasons. Her mother is Demeter, the goddess of the harvest and she got super mad when Persephone went missing and let the earth turn cold until Persephone was found. Hades made a deal with Demeter that Persephone is allowed to leave the underworld for part of the year, so long as she returns. When Persephone is with her mother, the crops will flourish; when she returns to the underworld, Demeter becomes distressed and winter begins.

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008



Write in vote for The Fred Durst Centre of Astronomy and Space Exploration.

Actually voted Acheron and Styx

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Alright, who set my homepage to hornycripples.com?


Write in vote: DeGrassi and Tyson.

Senor Tron
May 25, 2006



Oh for the days when we could have got Goatse ranking as a write in option.

gannyGrabber
May 8, 2012

Curses are the crutches of inarticulate motherfuckers.


Name it after Goonfleet they have done enough for space to have earned it.

Really though go with Lethe it is the best one.

Snorb
Nov 19, 2010


Cast my vote for Obol and Persephone.

zamin
Jan 9, 2004


Oracle posted:

Write in vote: DeGrassi and Tyson.

He deserves better than a couple satellites around something like Pluto. Save those names for a pair of binary stars or something.

Voted Acheron and Persephone.

Lt. Tanaka
Apr 30, 2007



Saying Obol out loud multiple times will make anyone realize that it is the right choice.

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004



voted acheron and erebus

Grogsy
Feb 8, 2013

i put on my robe and wizard hat


It would be romantic if they were named by the same source that named the planet



Thor and Hercules, as they circle in combat their opponent Pluto

Down10
Jan 1, 2013


I voted for Styx (obviously) and Lethe, because that's also a name of a river in the underworld. I chose two river names because the two moons were discovered around the same time.

Also, only planets should be named after gods, not moons.

Down10 fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2013 around 01:00

Nessuno
Sep 2, 2011

If you don't wanna date me, that's fine, I get that...






BUT YOU'RE WRONG AND I HATE YOU

If you didn't vote for Cerberus you are a drat fool.

The other name is less important, but I voted Hypnos because sleep is the best.

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

Advice from above


I love the story of Persephone so that got my vote.

Along with Acheron. Because they're a pretty good death metal band.

EDIT: Acheron needs its own theme song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyqFv_NvciA

Down10
Jan 1, 2013


I didn't realize that we actually had a smilie for Pluto already:

I wonder when it was last used.

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!


Nessuno posted:

If you didn't vote for Cerberus you are a drat fool.

That's for drat sure



And for the record, I think Styx is a really vote

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009
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I'm sorry but it wouldn't be right if we didn't the name Dickbutt.

Novo
May 13, 2003

Stercorem pro cerebro habes

Thomson and Thompson

Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


Persephone because I know her myth, and it's one of the fascinating ones. Also Hypnos,because Sandman and comic books.

Venusian Weasel
Nov 18, 2011



Just so all you serious voters know, Cerberus, Eurydice, Heracles, Hypnos, Orpheus, and Persephone have already been used to name objects in the Solar System, and as a result will likely be rejected by the IAU if proposed by the astronomers running the poll. Personally I picked Erebus and Styx.

jscolon2.0
Jul 9, 2001

With great payroll, comes great disappointment.


Desperado Bones posted:

Persephone because I know her myth, and it's one of the fascinating ones. Also Hypnos,because Sandman and comic books.

A real Sandman nerd would be voting Orpheus, like I did.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

JACKASSERY!


No love for Yuggoth?

Feranon
Sep 10, 2011

People were less prepared for a double juggalo presidency than they ever imagined.


Acheron and Orpheus. gently caress off Orpheus haters

Morally Inept
Mar 5, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 28 days!


How about Goofy and Micky?

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Wildlife Analysis
Jul 26, 2008


Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:

I find it disappointing Styx and Cerberus will make the cut just because they're the most familiar sounding. It should be Cerberus and Erebus, gotta follow that rhyming.

This was my vote as well. Cerberus and Erebus sound good together.

Styx is a dumb name for a moon.

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