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Wooten
Oct 4, 2004



Imagine you are stuck on a ship that is listing to one side, and all the toilets are overflowing poo poo everywhere and the poo poo smell is making everyone throw up all over the place. Also the ship can't move and you don't know when you can get off. Sounds like a pretty badass vacation to me.

cnn posted:

(CNN) -- Ewwwww.
That about sums up how people are describing conditions aboard the Carnival Triumph Tuesday as tugboats slowly drag the stricken cruise ship toward Alabama -- and freedom for its 3,143 passengers.
Some on the ship reported sewage sloshing around in hallways, flooded rooms and trouble getting enough to eat after a fire in the ship's engine room Sunday left it drifting in the Gulf of Mexico. Passengers dragged their mattresses onto the ship's open deck to stay cool and get away from the nasty smells inside.
"The odor is so bad, people are getting sick and they're throwing up everywhere," Brent Nutt, whose wife is aboard the ship, said Tuesday.
But not all passengers share the same dire view of the situation.
A poster on the cruising forum cruisecritic.com said her sister reported passengers have enough food and are "enjoying the extended vacation."
The fire is at least the second problem for the ship since late January, when it had an issue with its propulsion system, according to a notice posted to Carnival Senior Cruise Director John Heald's website.
The company also recently repaired one of Triumph's alternators, the company said Tuesday.
However, there's no evidence the alternator problem and the fire are linked, cruise line spokesman Vance Gulliksen said Tuesday.
Sunday's fire came as the Triumph steamed about 150 miles off Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula on the way back to Galveston, Texas. The ship was on the third day of a four-day cruise.
"We all woke up and panicked," passenger Donna Gutzman told CNN affiliate KPRC. "A couple other alarms went off and we started seeing smoke."
Read related: Cruise safety drill results in 5 deaths
Triumph's automatic fire extinguishing system kicked in and soon contained the flames, and no injuries were reported, Carnival said.
But the fire knocked out the ship's propulsion system and left the vessel slowly drifting in the Gulf until a second tugboat arrived Tuesday, joining one that had come earlier. The U.S.S. Coast Guard cutter Vigorous is also sailing nearby to provide assistance if necessary.
The tugboats are towing the Triumph toward Mobile at a rate of 5 mph to 8 mph, Vigorous Cmdr. Greg Magee told CNN Tuesday.
The ship is expected to arrive in Mobile Wednesday afternoon or, if sea and wind conditions worsen, early Thursday, he estimated. Gulliksen said Carnival still expects the ship in Mobile Thursday afternoon.
"The tugs on scene have been doing a great job of keeping it moving north," said Magee, who added that his crew has not gone onto the Triumph to assess what's happening on board.
Carnival scheduled a news conference Tuesday evening to update reporters on the situation aboard the ship.
Technicians aboard the ship were trying to restore power and provide more onboard facilities, Gulliksen said.
Passenger Ann Barlow said the staff on the Triumph was doing a good job, but that flooded rooms, hot, humid conditions, long lines for food and overwhelming odors were making things tough for passengers.
"It's disgusting. It's the worst thing ever," she told CNN Monday.
Barlow's husband, Toby, said she told him there was "sewage running down the walls and floors" with passengers being asked to defecate in bags and urinate in showers due to the lack of functioning toilets. The air conditioning is also out.
But things were getting better, according to Nutt and Gulliksen.
Nutt said his wife tells him the boat isn't listing as much as it was Sunday, when she called worried she was going to die.
Read related: What caused the Costa Cruises ship disaster?
Gulliksen said Tuesday that cabins have running water -- cold only -- and some toilets are working in public areas and some cabins. The ship's poolside restaurant was open until 10 p.m. Monday night and reopened again at 7 a.m. Tuesday.
And, he said, "Carnival Triumph's entertainment staff has planned various activities to keep guests entertained."
There are 1,086 crew members on the ship.
Carnival has also brought meals aboard from two other cruise ships, the cruise line said Monday. Earlier, Carnival said in a statement that hot coffee was available, among other options.
"All our guests are safe, and we're doing everything we can to make them as comfortable as possible," Carnival CEO Gerry Cahill said Monday night. "We're terribly sorry for the inconvenience, discomfort and frustration our guests are feeling."
Carnival initially planned to tow the ship to Progreso, Mexico, but strong currents that pushed it 90 miles north by Monday night prompted the decision to move the ship to Mobile instead. The change also made it easier on the 900 passengers who don't have passports, the cruise line said.
Passengers will get a free flight home, a full refund for their trip and most expenses aboard, and a credit for another cruise, Carnival said.
The incident has forced Carnival to cancel the ship's next two departures, refund bookings for those trips and offer those passengers discounts on future cruises.
In 2010, the Carnival's cruise ship Splendor lost power after an engine room fire, leaving it drifting off the Pacific coast of Mexico. The USS Ronald Reagan ferried 60,000 pounds of supplies for the ship's passengers and crew as the ship was towed to San Diego.

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Oh yeah, a lifeboat flipped over on this cruise ship killing 5 crew members a couple days ago too, just in case you thought cruise ships were only deathtraps for their passengers.

Obviously these are just the latest in a long list of horrible gently caress ups/accidents on cruise ships, including the Costa Concordia just a year ago, my questions is who the gently caress is still taking cruises, and why?

Feel free to post horror stories and photos of cruise ship accidents here.

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Veni, vidi, Lombardi.


I hope Kathie Lee Gifford is on that ship.

Not because of anything she's done, just because I hate her.

Stealthgerbil
Dec 15, 2004


Whats so bad about pooping into a bag? Sounds like my kind of cruise!

Acquire Currency!
Jan 15, 2011


This is the mental image I get whenever someone says 'goon fleet'.

5er
Jun 1, 2000



Pretty loving hilarious circumstances considering one of Carnival's Hulu ads propose their ships as an alternative to visiting hillbilly relatives that have used baby diapers floating around a neglected pool.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Sewage sloshing around the hallways, very few working toilets, no aircon, no hot showers and they're still keeping all the people on board for another 2 days?

How the hell did they not have another ship heading out there to take everybody off it Monday morning?

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

Don't worry you'll look great with a shaved head. Bruce Willis does it, I don't understand why you are being such a wuss about this.


Because that would be false advertising, duh!

Berious
Nov 13, 2005


Wooten posted:

Imagine you are stuck on a ship that is listing to one side, and all the toilets are overflowing poo poo everywhere and the poo poo smell is making everyone throw up all over the place.

If Theme Park taught me anything it's they didn't hire enough janitors.

Stealthgerbil posted:

Whats so bad about pooping into a bag? Sounds like my kind of cruise!

Any why is no one using the poop deck?

Talkc
Aug 2, 2010

Mizuki! Mizuki! Mizuki!
***DEVASTATINGLY HANDSOME***

Have they interviewed any Germans on board. I would like a second opinion on the quality of the cruise.

That aside... A poop cruise sounds like an amazing story to come home with.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

AFC NORTH PITY FUCK


Now I'll never get my wife to take a cruise.

On the other hand, these stories are pretty crazy. Like Powershift said: why aren't they being transferred off? It makes me think that the accounts of things being horrible aren't as bad as is being 'reported'

Safe and Secure!
Jun 14, 2008
"Those who are more likely to do evil are conveniently cursed with an evil appearance. It even helps the rest of us good people avoid them, so that we can stay safe."


Doctor Butts posted:

Like Powershift said: why aren't they being transferred off?

Because cruise companies are notoriously evil. They already have the passengers' money. How does helping these people make them more money?

Run Dodo Run
Oct 7, 2006



Safe and Secure! posted:

Because cruise companies are notoriously evil. They already have the passengers' money. How does helping these people make them more money?

Carnival are shite even for a cruise company. I had a contract offer from them (for this cruise actually) - 7 days a week, 8 to 12 hour shifts, and it worked out at around £2 an hour. And this was educated to degree-level work, it wasn't a waiter job or anything.

Crasscrab
Jan 31, 2012

IF YOU CAN READ THIS THEN I WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THIS MASTERPIECE OF AFFORDABLE PIZZA


Is Carnival going to give a payout to passengers? Or is there gonna be a class action suit?

goomsnarr
Jun 21, 2012


Hah, and all those times people mocked the practice of poopsocking.

Pinch one out and then have sock-hurling competitions. It works on so many levels for this situation.

Ireland Sucks
May 16, 2004



They probably thought that tugs and fixing the engines would be quicker/cheaper than pulling a 3,000+ capacity ship out of their rear end and moving it to where the Triumph is stranded. Is it even practical to move that many people between a listing cruise ship and another cruise ship in open sea?

Ireland Sucks
May 16, 2004



quote edit etc

Safe and Secure! posted:

They already have the passengers' money. How does helping these people make them more money?
Having a toxic brand is not really a good idea if you are selling luxury cruises

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011


Run Dodo Run posted:

Carnival are shite even for a cruise company. I had a contract offer from them (for this cruise actually) - 7 days a week, 8 to 12 hour shifts, and it worked out at around £2 an hour. And this was educated to degree-level work, it wasn't a waiter job or anything.
But the job is basically a vacation! Frankly, you should've been paying them.

Jesus Christ
Jun 1, 2000

fully restored


Hah, I'm going on a cruise next month with family out of Galveston. I wonder what the atmosphere will be like -- people who go on cruises do so because they're easy, fairly modestly priced, and "safe." With the drunk captain that beached his boat in Europe last year and now this, that sense of security has surely eroded.

Guy Montag
Jun 24, 2005



poo poo like this and worse is why I'd never even consider a cruise, certainly not with a major company anyway. Check out http://www.internationalcruisevictims.org/ . Apparently there are a poo poo ton of murders, disappearances, and rapes that occur on cruise ships and the cruise companies have no incentive (or even legal obligation) to help investigate/solve these crimes. They are in fact incentivized against doing so, considering any attention to the matter would damage their business. There are some heart-wrenching stories of absolute stonewalling of law enforcement and private investigators, and even outright coverups on their part (lying about passenger's locations, hiding witnesses, etc.). On top of all that, most cruise ships despite being owned by US companies are flagged out of countries like Panama and are extremely hard to pressure legally so if you do have a problem with them (like a poopy cruise) it's very hard to sue.

ProfessorGroove
Jun 10, 2006

What it is is what it is.

quote:

Barlow's husband, Toby, said she told him there was "sewage running down the walls and floors" with passengers being asked to defecate in bags and urinate in showers due to the lack of functioning toilets.

Yuck. Why not just have them go off the side of the ship? I'd think even the most modest of people would take that alternative to walking around in sewage.

SUBLIME!
Mar 7, 2009

my quiver is full~

Jesus Christ posted:

Hah, I'm going on a cruise next month with family out of Galveston. I wonder what the atmosphere will be like -- people who go on cruises do so because they're easy, fairly modestly priced, and "safe." With the drunk captain that beached his boat in Europe last year and now this, that sense of security has surely eroded.

I'll also be leaving out of Galveston! In June on the Carnival Triumph!

Overheated rooms and poo poo on the walls? I'll be in my element.

Shnag
Dec 8, 2010

"I'll be whatever I wanna do!"

Hopefully the passengers realize the crew are suffering as well and not venting their anger on them. Seems really weird they just don't send out several boats or just an other cruise ship to pick them up. Considering the damage seems bad enough it needs full facilities to fix it, whats the point to drag the passengers and crew along with that wreck?

At least this disaster wasn't caused by an idiotic captain, rather than the ship it self sucking.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Oh yeah.

I am having the best mental image of people puking on other peoples puke while some guy is taking a poo poo in a corner and puke runs all over his foot and he tries to get away and sprays poo poo all over other people puking.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


They have a ship leaving from florida or galveston basically every day. If a cruise line came and said "your cruise tomorrow has been cancelled so we can use the boat to rescue the poop cruise", i'd probably be ok with that.

This seems like a somewhat regular occurance, you would think there would be contingencies beyond "torture the passengers for 5 days, then compensate them with a coupon for a free cruise they're not going to trust us enough to use"

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

I don't think it's very feasible to transfer thousands of people from one cruise ship to another in the middle of the ocean. The tugboats are pulling it to Alabama, and it should be there Thursday. Also, they get refunds, plus expenses paid, plus another free cruise! Yay!

I have no desire to ever set foot on a cruise ship.

PepperSinclaire
Jan 21, 2007

But everyone's doooing it!


They really pulled out all the stops for Jackass: The Movie 4, huh?

The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

THRESHOLD!!!



Crasscrab posted:

Is Carnival going to give a payout to passengers? Or is there gonna be a class action suit?

They are most likely going to try to give them a free cruise. A normal Carnival ship only has a faint odor of feces, so it's a pretty decent deal.

My sister went on a Carnival cruise with some friends once, and her friend got sick and threw up because the rule smelled like sewage. The doctor and management's reaction to this was to say that she was contagious and to quarantine her in the poop cabin.

The Human Crouton fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2013 around 21:58

Merrill Grinch
May 21, 2001

infuriated by investments

An intern from my wife's office is onboard that ship. I can't wait to hear the second-hand stories when he gets back.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

AFC NORTH PITY FUCK


quote:

I don't think it's very feasible to transfer thousands of people from one cruise ship to another in the middle of the ocean.

I hadn't thought that through, obviously.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Leon Einstein posted:

I don't think it's very feasible to transfer thousands of people from one cruise ship to another in the middle of the ocean. The tugboats are pulling it to Alabama, and it should be there Thursday. Also, they get refunds, plus expenses paid, plus another free cruise! Yay!

I have no desire to ever set foot on a cruise ship.

They have to have a reasonable way to do so. If something more serious happened, i doubt they would want to be fishing lifeboats out of the water.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

Powershift posted:

They have to have a reasonable way to do so. If something more serious happened, i doubt they would want to be fishing lifeboats out of the water.
They have tugboats. If something more serious happened, they absolutely would have to fish lifeboats out of the water. I'm not sure what you think the alternatives are.

Hoopaloops
Oct 21, 2005


On the reimbursement piece, initially they had said that all passengers would only receive full credit toward a future cruise. However, it sounds like the CEO has now stepped in and said that passengers will also receive a full refund including travel, in addition to the future cruise credit, although I can't imagine anyone on board would be crazy enough to double down on another cruise after this disaster. From here.

HATE CURES TRANNYS
Aug 16, 2005

PUSSY ALL NIGHT!

I keep telling everyone a cruise is a lottery. 75% chance of an overpriced, over managed, over crowded, sub par vacation, 25% chance of sinking, rampaging viruses, or poop party.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

tighten up tone down tuen thuen

Thread title made this worth the wait, even though things went bad several days ago.

Pope Mobile
Nov 12, 2006

Talked to Jesus lately? More bars in more churches, synagogues, mosques and all other places of worship, guaranteed.

If only Danny DeVito were on board. Poop's funny!

Yonic Symbolism
Nov 10, 2008



Merrill Grinch posted:

An intern from my wife's office is onboard that ship. I can't wait to hear the second-hand stories when he gets back.

ASK me about my vacation in a giant floating shitpuddle

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 9, 2007

Remind me to work out until I also am buff and have to keep a pillow in front of my okay I'll be honest this is like the 50th custom title I've done tonight and I'm just phoning it in now.

Does anyone have that screen cap of a news headline of a stranded cruise from some years ago compared to the Haiti earthquake headline right next to it?

Crunkjuice
Apr 4, 2007

That could've gotten in my eye!
*launches teargas at unarmed protestors*

I THINK OAKLAND PD'S USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE WAS JUSTIFIED!


HATE CURES TRANNYS posted:

I keep telling everyone a cruise is a lottery. 75% chance of an overpriced, over managed, over crowded, sub par vacation, 25% chance of sinking, rampaging viruses, or poop party.

If you plan it wrong sure. We did a 5 day carnival cruise for 300 dollars flat, snuck on 8 liters of booze and had an amazing vacation. Everything totaled, including scuba diving in cozumel was under 500 dollars for me.

We were on the Triumph too so i guess we won on the poop cruise lottery.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

tighten up tone down tuen thuen

Crunkjuice posted:

If you plan it wrong sure. We did a 5 day carnival cruise for 300 dollars flat, snuck on 8 liters of booze and had an amazing vacation. Everything totaled, including scuba diving in cozumel was under 500 dollars for me.

We were on the Triumph too so i guess we won on the poop cruise lottery.

Or lost, depends on perspective.

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spengler
Aug 25, 2004

treason trapping animal hide
in the vision of paradise


if we can somehow convince people to pay for this experience, we're that much closer to a commercially viable swap.avi tour cruise.

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