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spengler posted:if we can somehow convince people to pay for this experience, we're that much closer to a commercially viable swap.avi tour cruise. Give it a flat deck and it's basically the gooncarrier.
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Somewhere a fetlife group has decided to host a convention on a Carnival cruise.
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Stealthgerbil posted:Whats so bad about pooping into a bag? Sounds like my kind of cruise! Last time I read on the internet about someone pooping in a bag, it involved someone having gonorrhea in their colostomy hole.
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My family went on a cruise ship from MSC Cruises because we got a good last minute deal and had a great time. Guess it depends on the line. Food was good quality for what you'd expect and all the tours had guides that could speak multiple languages and kept a good eye out for stragglers, even organizing a search party for some old women who managed to get lost. Really the only problem was the noise of the engine on the cheap deck our cabin was on. 2 safety exercises in a week too and the crew did one every other day.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 00:38 |
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My roommate and fellow Something Awful forums member is on this very cruise. Every time another cruise ship comes by to deliver supplies, they share there satellite internet to allow the stuck passengers to make quick phone calls, which so far has been at least twice. He called me from the ship yesterday at about 6pm and confirms what we're hearing on the news - pooping in red plastic bags, peeing in the showers, etc. He says they have very limited running water and a little bit of electricity in the public areas. He also says they opened up a sort-of buffet with food that the other ships have given them, which even includes beer but no hard liquor. I heard on CNN though that they didn't ration out the food, so the people in the front of the line hoarded as much as they could carry and those in the back of the line were given PB&J sandwiches and small cups of water. They were originally supposed to be tugged to Progreso, Mexico, then bused to some other city with an airport, and finally flown back home. Last I heard, the ocean currents had pushed them so far north that it was faster to tug them straight to Mobile, Alabama. Anyway, my friend took his GoPro on the cruise. When he called me, he was pretty excited about the 1080p 60FPS footage he got of the 'full scale panic' from when the fire broke out, and subsequent 'tent cities' since those with interior rooms had to find somewhere else to sleep. So look forward to one hell of a youtube link as soon as he gets a chance to upload it.
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Geology posted:Anyway, my friend took his GoPro on the cruise. When he called me, he was pretty excited about the 1080p 60FPS footage he got of the 'full scale panic' from when the fire broke out, and subsequent 'tent cities' since those with interior rooms had to find somewhere else to sleep. So look forward to one hell of a youtube link as soon as he gets a chance to upload it. 1080p 60FPS poo poo/puke wave action, can't wait!
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Awwww I thought this was going to be about the US Navy ship, which ran aground in a coral reef near the Philippines (a world heritage site even). Last I heard it had destroyed at least 4000m3 of rare coral, and was leaking oil and needing to be dismantled before it could be removed. Allegedly they ignored repeated warnings from the local park rangers to turn around so as to avoid running around, whoops!
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Geology posted:My roommate and fellow Something Awful forums member is on this very cruise. Every time another cruise ship comes by to deliver supplies, they share there satellite internet to allow the stuck passengers to make quick phone calls, which so far has been at least twice. He called me from the ship yesterday at about 6pm and confirms what we're hearing on the news - pooping in red plastic bags, peeing in the showers, etc. He says they have very limited running water and a little bit of electricity in the public areas. He also says they opened up a sort-of buffet with food that the other ships have given them, which even includes beer but no hard liquor. I heard on CNN though that they didn't ration out the food, so the people in the front of the line hoarded as much as they could carry and those in the back of the line were given PB&J sandwiches and small cups of water. Hell yes, tell him to document everything. I even want to see the little red poop bags they give you.
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If they can transfer supplies onto the ship, why the gently caress aren't they transferring people off?
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 01:26 |
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Transferring supplies from ship to ship is a heck of a lot easier than transferring people. Especially if you're talking about 3000 untrained, likely less than in shape, cruise ship passengers. Those people are a heck of a lot safer where they are right now, baring any major medical conditions.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 01:30 |
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My mom and her siblings are stuck on there... I probably should stop reading about the conditions on the ship.
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ruarc posted:If they can transfer supplies onto the ship, why the gently caress aren't they transferring people off? You have to be pretty dense to even think this is a possibility. You have 3 Options to do this. 1) Helicopters; Takes long as gently caress, requires training everyone on how to board one, get off one, exposes two cruise ships to accidents, possibly crashes. 2) Coming Along Side; Exceedingly difficult even if both ships are powered, still requires an extremely dangerous transfer across ropes. If you use a smaller ferry, its still dangerous due to waves and motion of both platforms. Especially considering most cruise passengers are loving ancient. 3) Swim. Keeping them all on the floating thing getting tugged, while possibly uncomfortable, is safe. Edit: I was on the USS Ronald Reagan when we airlifited supplies to the Carnival Splendor. They got water, Spam, Pop Tarts, and Vienna Sausages. 60,000 lbs of it airlifted right onto their basketball court. Laranzu fucked around with this message at Feb 13, 2013 around 01:45 |
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Things like this are exactly why I think cruises are the worst idea for vacations.mr. nazi posted:1080p 60FPS poo poo/puke wave action, can't wait! (everything about it) CPL593H fucked around with this message at Feb 13, 2013 around 01:58 |
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Laranzu posted:2) Coming Along Side; Exceedingly difficult even if both ships are powered, still requires an extremely dangerous transfer across ropes. If you use a smaller ferry, its still dangerous due to waves and motion of both platforms. Especially considering most cruise passengers are loving ancient. Coming alongside would only be possible if both ships had power, ideally DP, and even that that's a risk I doubt they'd be willing to take - ships touching each others is kind of a big deal. The only real options would be to use lifeboats or tenders, but boarding or leaving a boat at sea can be... Touchy. There's no way they could do it without a pretty high rate of injuries and a few dozens persons in the water (who'd then get crushed between the boat and the ship). And before someone say they do it all the time while tendering, tendering is done in relatively sheltered waters; that makes a world of difference. TL;DR : The cruise line is probably operating under the mindset that 3000 inconvenienced passengers is better than 10-20 dead or maimed ones.
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cnn posted:Passengers will get a free flight home, a full refund for their trip and most expenses aboard, and a credit for another cruise, Carnival said. Huh. I wonder what they charged people for?
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Mr. Jive posted:Huh. I wonder what they charged people for? PB&J sandwiches don't grow on trees.
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Probably the bars, in room movies, etc etc. It's like a hotel on the ship and normally just the food is free.
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Mr. Jive posted:Huh. I wonder what they charged people for? They're likely referring to expenses in shops and bars that passengers ran up before the fire.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 02:23 |
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So it's the cruise ship version of the jackass porta-potty catapult sketch?
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I don't know much about cruise ships, and have never been on one, but I have read David Foster Wallace's seminal article (http://people.virginia.edu/~jrw3k/m...er.Do.Again.pdf) and he's pretty scathing in his description of Carnival. PS - if you enjoy reading words, you should read that article. Seriously one of my favorite pieces of writing.
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Carnival as a whole is pretty lovely. It'ls like the Walmart of cruise lines.
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CPL593H posted:Things like this are exactly why I think cruises are the worst idea for vacations. I went on a cruise once, well was forced too, seeing as I was about 8 years old at the time. You are not allowed to leave the ship until you get "tagged". My memory is sketchy but you have to wear this stupid wrist bracelet thing when you get off the ship. I don't know if they changed it since then. You are not allowed on the upper decks after 10pm. You are not allowed to wear flip flops either. They have really weird rules on those boats. Also, the swimming pool had a schedule. The food sucked, you had like 13 tv channels, and the cabins were small, even the "big" ones. On the plus side, the casino was open 24/7. -1 stars out of 5, cruise ships are gambling dens and goat herding science.
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Trans Ferdinand posted:I don't know much about cruise ships, and have never been on one, but I have read David Foster Wallace's seminal article (http://people.virginia.edu/~jrw3k/m...er.Do.Again.pdf) and he's pretty scathing in his description of Carnival. I never understood the appeal either of carnival cruises, being stuck on a phony muzak filled floating mall with no escape.
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etalian posted:I never understood the appeal either of carnival cruises, being stuck on a phony muzak filled floating mall with no escape. Sitting around a pool while occasionally get up to drink and eating is all some people do on holiday- a cruise liner is just a hotel resort with a fair bit more choice than most hotels and more varied scenery.
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And it's also similar to the grosser jackass pranks due to all the stories of people doing projectile vomit from the trash and raw sewage smell.
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Gravel Gravy posted:It'ls like the Walmart of cruise lines. Yes. I went on a Carnival cruise a few years ago--my first cruise ever--and this descriptor sprung to mind immediately. Esp. with lots of obese families. Still, I enjoyed myself. It's forced relaxation on the days you're at sea, and then it takes you to your destination, drops you off for 10 hours, then picks you up--no traveling, changing hotels, etc. It was quite a change from my previous vacations--backpacking in Europe alone, staying in hostels, taking public transport, trying to speak languages I didn't know while navigating new countries. That kind of trip takes a lot of brainpower, and the Carnival cruise was pretty much the exact opposite. Honestly, would cruise again
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grapey posted:Honestly, would cruise again My thoughts too. It's basically wake up, shower, eat, drink, eat, drink, eat, drink, sleep. Repeat for 5 days. No responsibilities, no thought required. It was bliss. The whole drat thing looked like a super tacky Vegas hotel though.
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How many times do things like this need to happen before people realise that cruise boats are loving stupid. Go to a beach or something, jesus christ.
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FatCow posted:My thoughts too. It's basically wake up, shower, eat, drink, eat, drink, eat, drink, sleep. Repeat for 5 days. No responsibilities, no thought required. It was bliss. I don't get this, it seems more like being trapped to me. Maybe it's more one of the perks of living in a major city but if I wanted to do that I would just stay at home. To me the appeal of a vacation is soaking up the local sites and culture or just being slightly drunk on beach with a book. I guess I just don't understand why people feel they need to be on a ship to do these things, the way these cheap cruises work the whole ship part seems to do little but limit your options.
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Something about an entire self contained society that can move around is kind of cool. A space cruise would be kick rear end.
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Wooten posted:who the gently caress is still taking cruises, and why? Dutch carpenters named Toby who love being waited on and who will work until they die because when they aren't feeding their gambling addictions at cross border casinos they're on a cruise ship staffed by south-american wage-slave labor.
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cat doter posted:How many times do things like this need to happen before people realise that cruise boats are loving stupid. Go to a beach or something, jesus christ. Do you really want the people of Wal Mart loving up the beaches? Taking them out to sea is for the best.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Do you really want the people of Wal Mart loving up the beaches? Taking them out to sea is for the best. Have you never been to Florida?
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Philthy posted:I am having the best mental image of people puking on other peoples puke while some guy is taking a poo poo in a corner and puke runs all over his foot and he tries to get away and sprays poo poo all over other people puking. If you just add in a pinch of violence with improvised weapons, you'd have Space Station 13. Hell, Carnival Cruises are basically Space Station 13. On Gibbed servers.
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Wooten posted:Have you never been to Florida? I'm too busy getting cancer in Arizona.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Do you really want the people of Wal Mart loving up the beaches? Taking them out to sea is for the best. Hey, even walmart people need a vacation. If that involves getting diphtheria and sunstroke, then they should probably rethink their holiday ideas.
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So how long before the ship gets co-opted into a libertarian paradise?
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Dean of Swing posted:So how long before the ship gets co-opted into a libertarian paradise? -2 days
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I went on my first cruise last September, for a friend's birthday. We went to Nassau for literally 1 day, and came back. It was a 4 day cruise. On Carnival. It was like spending the weekend with everyone you see in any given trip to Wal-Mart. Including the daytime buffets, which generally consisted of burgers, hot dogs, and low-rent sushi, except for dinner. All of this was buffet style, which mostly consisted of hambeasts stacking their plates to the sky with barely digestible food. Except for dinner, which mostly resembled a lovely wedding with table service, as long as you wore a shirt. Any shirt. Even tank tops. The amazing part was the ammount of drink runners, and their ability to upsell you on the ridiculously overpriced drinks. But hey, after 4 days, only eating truck stop food and cheap liquor, the pool slide on the back of the boat was awesome. So was the 600 lb. chick fight in the pool. But I hear Norwegian cruises are where it's at...
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Three Olives posted:I don't get this, it seems more like being trapped to me. Maybe it's more one of the perks of living in a major city but if I wanted to do that I would just stay at home. To me the appeal of a vacation is soaking up the local sites and culture or just being slightly drunk on beach with a book. For once somebody will agree with Three Olives, because I think that vacations should be about getting out and seeing the world, having an adventure. If your idea of a vacation is to get up and not do anything, why pay hundreds of dollars for a cruise when you can do the same things on your couch? I did go on a cruise once, with my Grandma through the Alaskan archipelago and around Juneau but I imagine it was a pretty different experience because it was a super small boat, no more than 100 or 150 people, and we were stopping to get out and explore pretty much every day. I couldn't imagine being trapped on a boat with thousands of other people where the attractions are the pool, the bar and the casino. I mean, I know there are stops, but my mom went on a cruise with her sister recently and was telling me about how there were people who wouldn't even leave the boat and would just sit around the pool pretty much all day, and she didn't understand it either.
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