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I went on a great cruise to the Caribbean, where I'd been many times before, when I was 18 or so. My brother and I amused ourselves by getting drunk and raising hell on the boat and then doing similar things on the various islands. My brother drunkenly purchased a wild monkey which he then had to set free as they wouldn't let it back on the boat obviously. On Grenada I met a pretty strange guy from New Jersey with whom I bought my first bag of crack (it was really good.) On St. Kitts I smoked a ton of bammer weed with some old rastas and nearly missed the boat. Add to that scuba diving, touring islands, hanging out at the beach/pool, etc., and it was an amazing vacation.
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Carnival will be needlessly shuttling passengers around on long bus rides after they land for no explicable reason. Aside from keeping them away from pesky reporters and meddling camera crews capturing images of shellshocked, red-bag clutching tubbies.More Fecal Hilarity posted:But passengers' stay in Alabama will be short. Carnival said in a statement late Wednesday that passengers were being given the option of boarding buses directly to Galveston, Texas, or Houston - a roughly seven-hour drive - or spending the night in a hotel in New Orleans, where the company said it booked 1,500 rooms. Those staying in New Orleans will be flown Friday to Houston. Carnival said it will cover all the transportation costs. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...-02-14-09-13-29 Tedgewick fucked around with this message at Feb 14, 2013 around 14:59 |
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The Triumph is arriving today! Yeah if I was fat, hungry and smelling of feces the last thing I would want to do is get on a bus for seven hours. Is Carnival completely stupid?
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Everyone complaining about cruises being terrible or backpacking being dangerous should check this out http://besttripchoices.com/travel-personalities/quiz/
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 15:37 |
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Of course that loving shitbarge is called Triumph.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 15:59 |
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The Entire Universe posted:Of course that loving shitbarge is called Triumph. It'd be funnier if it was called "The Aristocrat".
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 16:03 |
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Slo-Tek posted:Several times. But I've seen it done in video games and on the TV box before, why can't these people man up and do it in real life?
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 16:07 |
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I don't understand why they aren't just chartering a few widebody jets from Alabama to DFW, they could have almost everyone home within a day.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 16:28 |
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I can't wait until the cell phone/camera pictures start coming in.
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Can't these people, once in Mobile, elect to rent a car or book their own fight and go home? Edit: also I am interested in what the limited liability that the passengers had to sign to go on the cruise says. I can't possibly imagine it would cover the things that happened. What compensation has Carnival pledged? It's probably best for them to offer up something first than to await massive lawsuits.
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Logistically, it makes sense to keep the passengers herded together. If you let them off in Mobile to go to a hotel, you'll have hell trying to get them on a bus the next day (or even a few hours later). Even if you tell them 'bus leaves at 0700 hrs tomorrow, be there or get left behind' in the nicest way possible, you know some rear end in a top hat(s) will be late and delay everyone else (or bitch up a storm that Carnival left them). Does it suck? Oh yeah. But it's not like Carnival can do anything come out of this smelling like a rose (  )I do know that I were a hotel owner that, while the revenue would be nice, the clean up wouldn't be worth the hassle (if they aren't being decontaminated once they come off). I'd probably say tell Carnival thanks but no thanks. e: boat won't be up here until later today. going to head downtown at lunch and see what they're setting up at the terminal. 2nd e: Also, it's expensive as gently caress to fly out of Mobile. Tide fucked around with this message at Feb 14, 2013 around 16:50 |
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Secret Sweater posted:I can't wait until the cell phone/camera pictures start coming in. Im giddy with excitement about that goon shot gopro footage.
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Secret Sweater posted:I can't wait until the cell phone/camera pictures start coming in. Gonna look like a refugee camp on the ocean.
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Michael Scott posted:A quick overview for those who've never truly cruised: I suppose this cruise was kind of like that but with more 
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 17:03 |
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Three Olives posted:I don't understand why they aren't just chartering a few widebody jets from Alabama to DFW, they could have almost everyone home within a day. Buses are cheaper and quicker to hire, and will appeal a lot more to the people who want to just get the hell out of there (probably all of them) since they can have the buses waiting right when they get off the ship, instead of having to take the extra steps of transport them to the airport and making them stand around for however long it takes for the flight to leave. And like someone else mentioned earlier, it also keeps them away from reporters who want to find out just what happened on Poopdeck Pappy's Sewage Cruise.
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If anyone is interested, right now on CNN they have live footage of the ship pulling into the straight as well as audio with someone who is on-board.
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Scirocco Griffon posted:Buses are cheaper and quicker to hire, and will appeal a lot more to the people who want to just get the hell out of there (probably all of them) since they can have the buses waiting right when they get off the ship, instead of having to take the extra steps of transport them to the airport and making them stand around for however long it takes for the flight to leave. I think people take issue with the buses because you're packing all these poor people into a tight space together after not having bathed in over a week spent aboard a soiled cruise ship and making them sit together like that for 2-7 hours. In either case they still deal with the hassle of flying where they may stand around for however long it takes for the flight to leave. Personally I'd take the hotel option since I'd want to take a nice long shower before getting on a plane.
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Devyl posted:If anyone is interested, right now on CNN they have live footage of the ship pulling into the straight as well as audio with someone who is on-board. Hah! Someone made a Help sign and is hanging it from their balcony.
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Another 8-10 hours of seeing land but not being able to escape.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 17:27 |
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That is going to be one helluva tug bill
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 17:41 |
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God drat CNN, they don't need to broadcast their conversation on the air and CNN talk to some grown ups, 12 year olds don't have anything to add to this right now. I want to hear some adults talking about the squalor.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 17:45 |
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I want to hear this girl throw up on the phone. Edit: Whauuuuuuut?
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e: nevermind, different stream. Can this fat guy not sit up straight? 2nd e: gently caress! it was taped yesterday Tide fucked around with this message at Feb 14, 2013 around 17:52 |
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CNN is doing its damndest to make a live developing story of a 12 hour tugboat ride.
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Tide posted:I'm not getting any audio CNN web feed is just chopper footage with no audio, CNN TV is interviewing children and broadcasting the children talking to their mothers. So if they are in range of cell towers does no one have a smartphone to start uploading video of sewage or Skype interviews in squalor?
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Three Olives posted:CNN web feed is just chopper footage with no audio, CNN TV is interviewing children and broadcasting the children talking to their mothers. So if they are in range of cell towers does no one have a smartphone to start uploading video of sewage or Skype interviews in squalor? They are probably getting a cel signal only and no mobile broadband signal.
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johnny sack posted:Edit: also I am interested in what the limited liability that the passengers had to sign to go on the cruise says. I can't possibly imagine it would cover the things that happened. What compensation has Carnival pledged? It's probably best for them to offer up something first than to await massive lawsuits. CNN posted:The cruise line said it would give each passenger $500, a free flight home, a full refund for their trip and for most expenses on board, as well as a credit for another cruise. Maritime law's... Different. I don't know enough to say anything definitive (Passengers are a funny cargo, legally speaking) but Carnival's liabillity is pretty limited, since they did bring the passengers back ashore alive. Seriously, read the back of a cruise ticket sometimes, some of that stuff will make most people  This might also be of interest to you.
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Old Dirty Custard posted:I think people take issue with the buses because you're packing all these poor people into a tight space together after not having bathed in over a week spent aboard a soiled cruise ship and making them sit together like that for 2-7 hours.
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FrozenVent posted:Maritime law's... Different. I don't know enough to say anything definitive (Passengers are a funny cargo, legally speaking) but Carnival's liabillity is pretty limited, since they did bring the passengers back ashore alive. Seriously, read the back of a cruise ticket sometimes, some of that stuff will make most people But maybe there's a loophole in coming back alive but being covered with poo poo?
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Apparently there are quite a few rapes and sexual assaults on Cruise Ships. Cruise companies sound sketchy as hell. http://www.internationalcruisevicti...l_Assaults.html
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NPR is now saying that Carnival is chartering jets Friday from Alabama to Houston which I guess makes a little more sense than DFW for people that drove to Galveston but DFW is a much larger hub. Basically the options are hop on a bus as soon as you get off the ship and get back to Galveston/Houston overnight or spend the night in a hotel and take a charter tomorrow at some point.
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CNN is "interviewing" somebody onboard the ship, the CNN anchor won't let the poor girl talk, she just keeps asking 3 page long questions and you can hear the woman trying to break into it. edit:  one of the tugs broke down
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Would it be that hard for Carnival to keep some camp toilets on their ships for emergencies like this? 4,000 porta potties would be a lot, but if you had one for every 4 or 5 people they'd probably fit in a large storeroom.
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TurboTax posted:Would it be that hard for Carnival to keep some camp toilets on their ships for emergencies like this? 4,000 porta potties would be a lot, but if you had one for every 4 or 5 people they'd probably fit in a large storeroom. I think this incident has proven that carnival has absolutely no interest in contingencies. They don't have enough backup power generation to run basic life support systems on the ship. They didn't keep enough dry food onboard to keep the people fed for more than a day.
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I heard the ship was still giving out free booze at one point. Was kind of hoping that a group of renegade/drunken passengers would charge the engine room and seize control of a crippled ship for whatever purpose.
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haljordan posted:I heard the ship was still giving out free booze at one point. Was kind of hoping that a group of renegade/drunken passengers would charge the engine room and seize control of a crippled ship for whatever purpose. I think you mean storm the bridge and steal their sweet, sweet, air conditioning. There's nothing of use in the engine room except a burnt out engine and a group of unemployed Filipinos.
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Powershift posted:I think you mean storm the bridge and steal their sweet, sweet, air conditioning. There's nothing of use in the engine room except a burnt out engine and a group of unemployed Filipinos. The unemployed Filipinos are the lynchpin of the entire plan!
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TurboTax posted:Would it be that hard for Carnival to keep some camp toilets on their ships for emergencies like this? 4,000 porta potties would be a lot, but if you had one for every 4 or 5 people they'd probably fit in a large storeroom. That's 1000 camp toilets. That's a lot of toilets, and a large volume of them. I don't know where you think there's an empty "large storeroom" on cruise ship - Enclosed space on a cruise ship is expensive to build and maintain, and every single nook and cranny of those things is jammed with equipment, supplies, or people. We're not talking submarine levels of jam-packed with stuff, but carrying a thousand camp toilets just in case the entire sanitation system goes down is ridiulous. A better idea would be to make sure the entire sanitation system doesn't go down at one time. And if everything does fail, something collapsible would be much more convenient. Say a plastic bag. Heck, make them red so people know it's hazardous waste. Powershift posted:I think you mean storm the bridge and steal their sweet, sweet, air conditioning. The bridge is on the same AC system as the rest of the ship; it's dead. Powershift posted:I think this incident has proven that carnival has absolutely no interest in contingencies. They don't have enough backup power generation to run basic life support systems on the ship. They didn't keep enough dry food onboard to keep the people fed for more than a day. Emergency power generation is heavily regulated; it's required to be designed with interlocks so that it cannot be used to power non-emergency systems. Emergency systems are something like partial lighting, communications (Not the internet and fun stuff, just the bridge radios), starting air compressors, steering and I think a few other things. Cruise ships have extra batteries beyond what's legally required to power a few other things. Keep in mind that they're running the boat on a generator the size of a sedan right now; it's replacing something lik four or six generators the size of trucks. (I don't mean truck engines - I mean the entire truck) Ships are designed to avoid single points of failures like this, so I'm not sure what exactly happened that took out the entire power grid. Probably a switchboard fire is my guess. As for dry food, they likely have plenty of that - Rice and cereals and the like - but it's a little dry uncooked and without milk. In any case, they have survival rations for something like 125% of the complement, and that's supposed to be sufficient to keep you alive for something like six days while you're roasting in a lifeboat. It's 500 calories a day and very unappetizing, however, so I don't know if they got into that. FrozenVent fucked around with this message at Feb 14, 2013 around 20:04 |
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Powershift posted:I think this incident has proven that carnival has absolutely no interest in contingencies. They don't have enough backup power generation to run basic life support systems on the ship. They didn't keep enough dry food onboard to keep the people fed for more than a day. Even more damning is that the food isn't rationed at all. It's just a surge on a first come first serve basis. This is just a complete gently caress up on all levels. Enjoying exciting tugboat talk on CNN right now.
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Aaaaannnnndddd the tow line broke. They're stuck again. This is fuckin' epic.
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