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CaptCommy
Aug 13, 2012

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a goat.
Not to rain on everyone's parade here, but Secret Lair only works with Magic Cards.

Relevant response from Mark Rosewater's tumblr:

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pookel asked: Since we're asking about R&D's Secret Lair, does it allow the YuGiOh card Mountain (rules text: "Increases the ATK and DEF of all Dragon, Winged Beast, and Thunder-Type monsters by 200 points") to boost Dragons by 200/200? Or are ATK and DEF not considered equivalent to power and toughness?

Maro: R&D’s Secret Lair (and all silver bordered cards) only affects Magic cards.

http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/43907199004/since-were-asking-about-r-ds-secret-lair-does-it

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CaptCommy
Aug 13, 2012

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a goat.

Lone Goat posted:

We're not using R&D's Secret Lair to affect the non-Magic cards, we're using Richard Garfield, PhD. to affect non-Magic cards.


Well, first you'd have to get the 2:c: in your hand in the first place, and you can't start throwing random poo poo into your deck for no reason.

However....



The point was more that the word card on any Magic card, including silver bordered, is a reference to a Magic card and not any other kind of card. Even with R&D's Secret Lair, card is still in reference to Magic Card. So by RAW, none of this two of clubs stuff works.

CaptCommy
Aug 13, 2012

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a goat.
Here's the worst version of that combo. All happens on your turn and hits everything besides instant/sorceries they might have:

CaptCommy
Aug 13, 2012

The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a goat.

greatn posted:

Oh. Maybe it's because I don't get magic at all but that's not coming across.

Sorry, I was in a rush this morning and couldn't spell it out better. But yeah, playing all of those cards allows you to take nearly every card in your opponents deck and tear it into pieces.

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