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 Release Date: February 14th, 2013 Synopsis: quote:John McClane travels to Russia to help out his seemingly wayward son, Jack, only to discover that Jack is a CIA operative working to prevent a nuclear-weapons heist, causing the father and son to team up against underworld forces. Who's excited for this?! It's rated R, so it will most likely fare better than Live Free or Die Hard at the very least. Having said that, I still really enjoy Live Free. Maybe not as a Die Hard movie, but it's still a fun movie nevertheless. I'm at the theater now. AMC Theaters is doing this Die Hard Marathon where they show all 4 movies in the series back to back leading up to the 10pm premiere of A Good Day To Die Hard. The first one just ended and the second one starts in a few minutes. These are some of my favorite movies, so I'm stoked to be able to see them all in order straight through in the theater. From the trailers I've seen of 5, it looks crazier than 1 and 2 for sure, but not as flat out insane as 4 was. More along the level of With A Vengeance. What do you guys think? Anyone else doing the marathon today?
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 20:32 |
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| # ? May 21, 2013 10:19 |
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:
I just finished watching all 4 movies on blu ray at home. I'm excited for this movie and will be seeing it tomorrow. Die Hard 4 isn't the best movie in the series, but it certainly works better than something like, say, Terminator 3. They should've had Bruce Willis play the T-800. Hell, they could probably even reboot the terminator series and have them feature a terminator that plays a hero cop in 2013 that plays out pretty much exactly like the Die Hard series, and I would be happy. Alcholism Rocks fucked around with this message at Feb 13, 2013 around 20:41 |
| # ? Feb 13, 2013 20:39 |
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This is one of my favorite movie series, I really do love every single one of them. Live Free or Die Hard was great, solid villain, great action and stunts, and I actually like Justin Long which maybe does put me in the minority. I've heard it said that the orignial Die Hard was very very successful at creating an easy to follow geography for all the action and I really agree with that. I think it was carried forward all the way to Live Free too, theres no shakey cam or anything like that, the action is easy to follow and you see everything.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 21:11 |
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Die Hard With A Vengeance was the first R-rated film I ever saw, and the first movie is still the best action film ever made. 2 and 4 aren't great, but they still a lot of fun. I think I'll wait for the reviews on this one before I commit, though.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 21:21 |
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Reviews started popping up this morning. Doesn't look too good.  http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_good_day_to_die_hard/
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 21:32 |
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^^^^ - Is it true that Bruce doesn't say "Yippee Ki-Yay, motherfucker"? BulletRiddled posted:Die Hard With A Vengeance was the first R-rated film I ever saw, .... It had a lot of great moments. Even now, it's hard to find a film that is willing to "go there" with something like a white guy wearing a sign that says "I hate niggers" in a black neighborhood. It's so crazy that it made me laugh when I saw it. To be honest, the tv version where it says "I hate everybody" takes a bit of the oomph out of that scene. Alcholism Rocks fucked around with this message at Feb 13, 2013 around 21:35 |
| # ? Feb 13, 2013 21:32 |
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It is awful. Like, really, really bad. The R-rating is basically for few fucks and nothing more. A few ugly cgi-bloodspurts here and there. One of the ugliest looking films this year, everything is color-graded to look the most sterile, bland and lifeless mess. The chase scene is okay, if you don't mind McClane possibly killing dozens of innocent people in the process. Most of the action is videogamey cgi-fest or seizure-inducing shakeycam. Thanks, John Moore. It's kind of depressing what this franchise has become with the last two films. The only entertainment I'm going to get from now on is watching the film's tomatometer and I encourage you to check it out.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 21:37 |
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My god this sucks. Aesthetically it's all teal and orange, lens flare, un-needed shakycam in dialogue scenes and weird mini-zooms. Parts of it are borderline unwatchable. It's impossible to know what's going on in quite a few of the action sequences. I don't get why after the disaster that was 'Max Payne' they gave this multimillion dollar action film to John Moore. He's totally incompetent! The character of John McClane is unrecognisable too. Also They drive from Moscow to Chernobyl overnight? 'Pools' of radiation they clean up with a magic gadget, followed by them taking their radiation suits off?! It's bonkers! Mr. Flunchy fucked around with this message at Feb 13, 2013 around 21:44 |
| # ? Feb 13, 2013 21:42 |
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Mr. Flunchy posted:My god this sucks. Aesthetically it's all teal and orange, lens flare, un-needed shakycam in dialogue scenes and weird mini-zooms. Parts of it are borderline unwatchable. It's impossible to know what's going on in quite a few of the action sequences. I don't get why after the disaster that was 'Max Payne' they gave this multimillion dollar action film to John Moore. He's totally incompetent! Is this Mystery Science Theater bad, Matrix 3 bad, Fast 5 bad, or "I should've walked out of the theater and asked for a refund" bad?
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 21:46 |
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This one is okay at best. Mind you, I'm not a huge fan of the series in the first place (although I remember the first two fondly), so you might take this with a grain of salt. But outside of a few funny McLane one-liners, there is nothing special about it. Jai Courtney is as bland as it gets and has literally zero charisma, especially compared to Bruce Willis. The story is pretty ridiculous, and it's not like I had high expectations in the first place. Then again, there were a couple of funny scenes, and the action wasn't all bad either (you have to be able to stomach some shakey-cam though), so it's not completely awful. But unless you're a huge fan of the series, there's really no reason to watch this. Mr. Flunchy posted:'Pools' of radiation they clean up with a magic gadget, followed by them taking their radiation suits off?! It's bonkers! That part was hilariously bad, I agree. Alcholism Rocks posted:Is this Mystery Science Theater bad, Matrix 3 bad, Fast 5 bad, or "I should've walked out of the theater and asked for a refund" bad? I haven't seen Fast 5, so I'd say it's Matrix 3 bad. DominoDancing fucked around with this message at Feb 13, 2013 around 21:50 |
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Alcholism Rocks posted:Is this Fast 5 bad? Unwarranted. Fast 5 is one of the best action films of the last few years. Little reliance on CGI makes it work. For those who haven't seen it (nor even the rest of the franchise) I highly recommend that you watch it. It's not even a so "bad it's good" movie. It's a more "this is a surprisingly good" movie. Ever since the original poster for this I couldn't wait to see it fail.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 21:58 |
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I'd compare it, visually and qualitywise, to Die Another Day.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 21:59 |
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CaptainHollywood posted:Unwarranted. Fast 5 is one of the best action films of the last few years. Little reliance on CGI makes it work. For those who haven't seen it (nor even the rest of the franchise) I highly recommend that you watch it. It's not even a so "bad it's good" movie. It's a more "this is a surprisingly good" movie. I was secretly hoping he would say it was Fast 5 bad so I could rationalize going and seeing Die Hard 5. Now I'll have to wait for Fast 6... VVVV - Die Hard 4, on rewatching, doesn't seem to be as bad as I originally thought. Then again, there have been a lot of stinkers over the last couple of years. Alcholism Rocks fucked around with this message at Feb 13, 2013 around 22:56 |
| # ? Feb 13, 2013 22:12 |
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Man, I hope you guys are wrong That doesn't bode very well for it. From what you guys are saying, it's not even as good as Live Free, which while being a good movie is still probably the weakest in the series. The 2nd just finished in the marathon. Even if the 5th isn't that great, I still have re-watches of With A Vengeance and Live Free to look forward to. I wonder, will they use the theatrical PG-13 cut or the home release Unrated version with the "motherfucker" put back in the infamous line and the CG blood spatter added in post. Most likely the former.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 22:43 |
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Mr. Flunchy posted:I'd compare it, visually and qualitywise, to Die Another Day. But die another day is hilariously stupid.
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| # ? Feb 13, 2013 23:50 |
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Alcholism Rocks posted:Is this Mystery Science Theater bad, Matrix 3 bad, Fast 5 bad, or "I should've walked out of the theater and asked for a refund" bad? Fast Five isn't bad though, stop blaspheming.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 00:03 |
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I read this moviewas cut for a 12 rating in the UK.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 00:16 |
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Alcholism Rocks posted:I was secretly hoping he would say it was Fast 5 bad so I could rationalize going and seeing Die Hard 5. I was hoping Fast Five was meant that way too  :hi5:smith:And yes, I heard the "UK" edit is essentially the PG-13 version. I really can't believe how highly rated Live Free or Die Hard is on Rotten Tomatoes: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/live_free_or_die_hard/ compared to the current 6% of this one. I can't tell whether people are just tired of his schtick or if it's genuinely that bad.. looking like the latter though. The "everyman" aspect is what makes the series. Speed knew it, Sudden Death knew it, and Breakdown knew it. I actually wonder if we're going to get a FIFTH verse now (saying how bad/terrible the movie is). For those about to watch this for the first time- Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTyw6cq86kY EDIT: If Simon didn't die in the helicopter I highly doubt the series would have went into the "super-action" direction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmCyWvFGUuU CaptainHollywood fucked around with this message at Feb 14, 2013 around 01:02 |
| # ? Feb 14, 2013 00:58 |
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CaptainHollywood posted:And yes, I heard the "UK" edit is essentially the PG-13 version. Not that I think it would have made the film remotely better, but I did wonder why "Yippie Kay Yay Motherfucker" wasn't even silenced by a gunshot. It was literally "yippie kay yay mothe", with a sharp cut at the end.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 01:02 |
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Not that I think it would have made the film remotely better, but I did wonder why "Yippie Kay Yay Motherfucker" wasn't even silenced by a gunshot. I thought they were allowed one "gently caress" per PG-13 movie. The fact that this is rated R just boggles the mind. (Actually, I'm not entirely sure why Terminator 2 is rated R, unless it's for the swearing.)
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 01:08 |
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Fucks allowed motherfucker isn't.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 01:12 |
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Alcholism Rocks posted:The fact that this is rated R just boggles the mind. (Actually, I'm not entirely sure why Terminator 2 is rated R, unless it's for the swearing.)  
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 01:49 |
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I wonder what generic action movie/script got rebranded as a Die Hard this time. I'm watching the original Die Hard right now and drat, I forgot when Bruce Willis had a head full of hair. I dare say he looks better older than younger.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 02:21 |
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Gatts posted:I wonder what generic action movie/script got rebranded as a Die Hard this time. None. And I know it's a Cracked article, but every word of this is hard to disagree with: http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-simpl...ie-hard-sequel/
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 02:28 |
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CaptainHollywood posted:None. Based on this article I must now.... 1. Write a sequel to Trading Places. 2. It will be set in a singular location which is 2415 on Space Station Disney World which is sent through time by Alien Terrorists who claim to want to repopulate Earth with their species instead of humanity but in the end are really just after earth money. 3. It will originally be intended to star John Cho and Kal Penn but when turned into Die Hard will star Bruce Willis who is the same retired cop brought out of a chunk of ice Captain America style and is having to adjust to the future, Tadanobu Asano who is an Ordinary Joe and yet everyone expects him to kung fu the poo poo out of villains, and Chris Tucker who is also a Cop and makes vague references to his past movies when nervous. 4. This is the head bad guy. 
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 02:51 |
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I thought the big thing holding Live Free together was Bruce Willis could STILL do the John McClane character right down to the perfect comedic timing and really scathing sarcastic barbs from someone that just doesn't want to deal with any of this poo poo. The film itself should have sucked but holy poo poo did Bruce Willis completely bring it by revisiting one of my favorite characters in cinema. I'm still going to check out A Good Day but the abysmal Tomatometer is lowering my expectations a ton.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 03:08 |
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Intrusive Thoughts posted:I thought the big thing holding Live Free together was Bruce Willis could STILL do the John McClane character right down to the perfect comedic timing and really scathing sarcastic barbs from someone that just doesn't want to deal with any of this poo poo. The film itself should have sucked but holy poo poo did Bruce Willis completely bring it by revisiting one of my favorite characters in cinema. He basically played the same character in Red so if that makes the film for you it's probably going to be okay.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 03:09 |
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Wazzit posted:Reviews started popping up this morning. Doesn't look too good. 8%? drat.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 03:42 |
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computer parts posted:He basically played the same character in Red so if that makes the film for you it's probably going to be okay. See, I thought Red was all around boring and forgettable, but I love all the Die Hard movies. The PG-13 cut of Live Free was the one they used. New one starts in like 10 minutes. Please let this not suck 
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 03:46 |
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:See, I thought Red was all around boring and forgettable, but I love all the Die Hard movies. I fell asleep, so I'm with you on this one.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 03:52 |
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PaganGoatPants posted:8%? drat. I'm watching Skyfall for the first time, and uh, why is 007 a crotchety, incompetent, bumbling agent all of a sudden? This is not the Bond from my childhood.  Or was James Bond always a useless pile of crap? Maybe I'm remembering things wrong... gently caress you, Hollywood. edit: I feel like I'm watching an episode of Archer. At the beginning of the movie when they say "M" it sounds an awful lot like they are saying "Mom". Also, did James Bond never have a codename? He really went around all the time telling random women and pretty much every criminal his REAL NAME? This is insanity. And what year was Skyfall supposed to occur in? I honestly can't tell if it's this decade, the last one, or the 90's. edit2: At least Clint Eastwood was smart enough to retire Dirty Harry before he became a joke. Alcholism Rocks fucked around with this message at Feb 14, 2013 around 05:44 |
| # ? Feb 14, 2013 03:55 |
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Just got back from seeing this, and it really wasn't good All of its characters (with the exception of John McClane, who made some good quips, but he wasn't enough to save it) and its actions scenes just fell flat. After a while, I found myself kind of tuning out and not caring anymore, partly because I'd been sitting in the theater for several hours for the marathon and partly because what I was seeing on screen was so loving boring. One of the main settings was Chernobyl and the movie even managed to make that area seem boring as hell, and I'm a giant fan of anything Chernobyl related. Chernobyl Diaries did a fuckton better at exploring that setting, and even that wasn't a great movie (well, half of it was). John does say the infamous line, but it seemed like it came at an inopportune time. The final boss fight scene had a callback to Hans Gruber's death in the first one by showing the villain falling off of a tall building in slow motion, but then the villain gets cut up in a helicopter's blades. That was pretty drat goofy and had me laughing. I enjoyed that. It was one of like 2 or 3 moments in the whole movie that I found fun. Mr. Flunchy posted:Aesthetically it's all teal and orange This too. When people say they notice this in other films, I tend not to because I'm usually immersed in the film. But with this one, I didn't care about what was going on, so I did a lot of noticing that everything was 1 or 2 colors. Mr. Flunchy posted:I'd compare it, visually and qualitywise, to Die Another Day. Overall, I'd agree with this. It had potential, but ended up coming across like a stain on an otherwise great franchise. I almost want to say that I regret posting this thread, but I don't because now it can be used to ward people away from seeing this. Save your money and catch this on Blu-Ray when it comes out. At least then you can do other things and have this on as background noise. Which is about all it deserves to be used as.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 06:34 |
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I just got back from the marathon showing (at the Alamo Drafthouse, so I had real food to eat the entire time, it was quite nice), and I definitely concur that this was the weakest of the five, and not really worth seeing. The car chase scene is pretty great, but that's about it. The second half just seems to drag on. And did anyone else find the opening credit sequence incredibly distracting? The first is still my favorite, then 3rd, and while the 2nd gets some hate, I still really enjoy that one.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 06:42 |
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BananaFusion posted:And did anyone else find the opening credit sequence incredibly distracting? Yeah, the first few movies all have neat opening credit sequences and then this one was just a black screen for 30 seconds or so with sounds of gunfire in the background. Honestly, my thoughts on the movie started off as "who gives a gently caress?" because of that sequence and they didn't really pick up from there 
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 06:45 |
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I just got back from seeing it. What a loving disaster. Ya done me wrong yet again, Hollywood. Ya done me wrong yet again. Why do you continue ruining things that are pure and good in the world? The plot comes off like it was written by the 13 year old kid of an ex-24 writer (while under the influence of prescription painkillers), and i'd probably have to use a calculator to count how many times Bruce Willis incredulously shouted "JESUS!" right after something blew up or while he was being shot at. I really, really wanted this to be good, but ended up being let down tremendously. Just stop it, Bruce Willis. Your time as a leading man is sadly coming to an end. Also, the guy who played his son was TERRIBLE. Totally unsympathetic, uninteresting and wooden. There's seriously NO character development throughout the entire film. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Bad guys are gone no later than they're introduced, and their "big bad" M.O.'s are weak as hell. They make Tim Olyphant from DH4 seem like DB Cooper. I liked the prison break and the car chase, but that was about it. If you absolutely positively must see it, make sure it's either at a matinee showing (do not pay full price for this), or wait for it to come out on DVD and get it for a buck at Redbox. Gonz fucked around with this message at Feb 14, 2013 around 07:42 |
| # ? Feb 14, 2013 07:38 |
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The funniest part about the son was when he first met up with John, and he was upset because John was ruining his operation or whatever, and he kept hitting the dashboard of his car with his balled up fists and saying "drat you, John!" The first time he did it, I thought "ugh, okay, move on, maybe the movie will get better", then he proceeded to do it like 3 more times within the next minute or 2. It was like some high school jock trying to act in a play with very limited knowledge of how to be dramatic. It also reminded me of Wedding Crashers when Owen Wilson and Will Ferrell crash the funeral, and while the eulogies are being read, Will Ferrell is holding on to the dead dude's grieving widow and screaming "drat YOU!!!" into the air and then winking at Owen Wilson immediately after. Needless to say, I couldn't take it seriously at all.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 08:00 |
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Wow, this thread has been depressing to read. I really liked 4, more than 2 and almost as much as 1 and 3, but now I may be skipping this. Hopefully there is a rifftrax for it so I can at least stomach it from Redbox. I can't believe they hosed up a rated R Die Hard. Bruce Willis gets the poo poo beaten out of him, he says some funny lines, he swears, there's a few good character moments and we all go home happy.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 08:26 |
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I have no idea why this was rated R. Aside from a few "gently caress"s which could have been cut down to achieve PG-13, I didn't notice a single R-worthy moment. Well, maybe the helicopter blade death.
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 08:35 |
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Just got back from seeing it. The ONE redeeming quality it had was the callback to Hans Gruber's death at the end. It seemed like the director telling us, "Yes, you're watching Die Hard. Yes, that series."
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| # ? Feb 14, 2013 08:36 |
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| # ? May 21, 2013 10:19 |
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I didn't go for the plot, I went to watch things blow up. I got to see many things blow up. I was pleased. The end.
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