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Stats: Age: 27 Height: 5'4" Weight: 216 Sex: gal Fitocracy: link Backstory: I've been overweight my whole life, although when I was younger it never got too bad because I was involved in many sports. College came I gained the freshman 15 plus some, and then meeting my boyfriend added more. A lot of time was spent eating out or boozing. One day I stepped on the scale and it said 200. I realized poo poo had to change and that's when I found this forum. I think I started reading everything on here around the time Uziel started his thread. I started working out and eating good. I got down to around 165 and was feeling great.  Then I had a lovely job, got really depressed, quit lovely job (which was active), got much less depressed, started my own business, and now spend most of my waking hours behind a computer. All of these things have made me reallyyyy fat.    All of those things above have felt like one thing after another, but I finally feel like my life is in a good place now, I'm really happy, I have great friends, a wonderful partner, and I feel like my head is in this.  Toxx goals By May 13th -Squat 150lbs -deadlift 185lbs -bench 115lbs Other goals -Lose weight! My long term goal weight is 140, but right now my short term goal weight is 190 by May 13th. -Stop sleeping so much and get on a normal life schedule - I go to bed earlish, get up late, too much time wasted in bed! (Ive started taking my iron pills again as this is one reason I get so sleepy) The How: Track all calories - eatting around 1800 on workout days 1600 on non workout days. Workout - I've been using Stumptious's alternating plan for beginners, but I don't know about the 12 reps, if I want to get to bigger lifts should I do smaller reps? I started on Monday, so I'm going use the next post to post my workout and food from the past three days so you can see where I'm at and suggest any changes. I'm really excited and have been really inspired by all of you here, so thanks  !Weight Loss Starting Weight: 216 Week 1 (2/18/13) - 211.6 Week 2 (2/25/13) - 209.4 Week 3 (3/04/13) - 210 Week 5 (3/18/13) - 210.2 the hodag fucked around with this message at Mar 18, 2013 around 16:51 |
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Sorry the food format sucks so bad. I've been using sparkpeople but there's not good way to export the data to get it onto here. Moving forward I'll switch over to myfitnesspal Monday Food:  Monday Workout: Squat Clean: - 20 lb x 10 reps - Bad knee pain Lat Pulldown: - 40 lb x 12 reps - 55 lb x 12 reps - Was standing lat pulldown Standing Barbell Shoulder Press (OHP): - 20 lb x 12 reps - 30 lb x 9 reps One-Arm Dumbbell Row: - 15 lb x 12 reps - 15 lb x 12 reps Standing Dumbbell Calf Raise: - 20 lb x 15 reps - 20 lb x 15 reps Bicycle (abs): - 15 reps Sit-Up: - 15 reps Barbell Bench Press: - 45 lb x 12 reps - 45 lb x 5 reps fito2sa Tuesday:  Boot Camp: - 0:30:00 || Broke a Sweat - Jillian Michaels 30 day shred level 1 fito2sa Wednesday:  Cycling (stationary): - 0:30:00 || 10.8 mi Barbell Squat: - 12 lb x 12 reps - 17 lb x 10 reps - 22 lb x 10 reps Leg Press: - 60 lb x 15 reps - 110 lb x 15 reps Seated Calf Raise: - 50 lb x 10 reps - 50 lb x 12 reps - 60 lb x 12 reps Weighted Hyperextension: - 5 lb x 11 reps - 5 lb x 10 reps - Got bad pains in back so stopped Woodchoppers: - 6 lb x 10 reps - 6 lb x 10 reps - With medicine ball Weighted Sit-Up: - 6 lb x 10 reps - 6 lb x 10 reps - With medicine ball over head Side Crunch: - 20 reps - 20 reps - 10 each side Plank: - 30 sec - 30 sec - On exercise ball fito2sa So a few things you'll see, the first few days my carbs were really high, I'm working to bring them down and did a much better job today. Today I also ventured into the scary weight lifting room and asked trainer to show me how to squat, so the ones I did today were light to basically get form down. The other thing I noticed today was I was doing hyperextensions and it hurt my back in a bad way. I don't know if I was doing them wrong or if the bench was at the wrong settings, so I stopped doing those. the hodag fucked around with this message at Feb 14, 2013 around 04:19 |
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Your 160 photo is smashing and I'm sure you'll get there again! I love your strength toxx goals-- good luck!
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swyys posted:Your 160 photo is smashing and I'm sure you'll get there again! I love your strength toxx goals-- good luck! Thanks! Yesterday was a rest day. I shot a Valentine's day wedding and was definitely feeling it in my legs every time I squatted down to take a photo. Then I went to a drag show with some lady friends and it was great. Eating was good until we went out to the bar and then I had drinks and a club sandwich. But today is a new day! One thing I want to make sure I don't do this time around is beat myself up if I don't have a perfect eating day. In the past I've done that and then I just feel like poop about myself and end up giving up. I'm realizing everyday isn't going to be perfect, and that's fine. Yesterday's food:  Today I got up and worked out! Yay! Cycling (stationary): - 0:30:00 || 6.7 mi Lat Pulldown: - 25 lb x 8 reps - 55 lb x 8 reps - 55 lb x 8 reps - 70 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 8 reps Standing Barbell Shoulder Press (OHP): - 20 lb x 10 reps - 30 lb x 6 reps - 40 lb x 4 reps - 30 lb x 6 reps - 20 lb x 8 reps One-Arm Dumbbell Row: - 20 lb x 10 reps - 20 lb x 10 reps - 20 lb x 10 reps Barbell Bench Press: - 45 lb x 7 reps - 50 lb x 6 reps - 55 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 4 reps Woodchoppers: - 6 lb x 10 reps - With Medicine Ball Weighted Sit-Up: - 6 lb x 10 reps - With Medicine Ball fito2sa I'm following the stumptuous beginner program, but I don't like the 12reps, so I went for more sets less reps to try and do some heavier lifts. Also, when doing cardio on the same day as weights should I do the cardio first or second. Today I did it first and it was fine because it was an arm workout, but I don't think I could do squats if I did my biking first. I think my thread needs some kitty pictures. Here are my babbies: Charlie  Macie 
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Food for yesterday:  My mom got into town yesterday and will be here til Sunday morning so there will be some more eating out this weekend. I'm going to try my best to make good choices though. Also she brought cookies with her, but I will resist!! (I did have one yesterday  )Today's exercise will be wandering around the city playing tour guide with my mom.
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Yesterday's food and exercise:  My mom left after breakfast this morning, so I'll be back to eating normal for the rest of today and moving onward. I'm pretty happy though, I managed to make it through eating out and visitors with out eating everything in the world. Today I got up and exercised. AND I did dead lifts for the first time ever! My legs are toast. Cycling (stationary): - 0:15:00 || 5.4 mi Barbell Squat: - 17 lb x 5 reps - 45 lb x 5 reps - 45 lb x 5 reps - 50 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 5 reps Barbell Deadlift: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 75 lb x 5 reps - 95 lb x 5 reps - 105 lb x 5 reps Seated Calf Raise: - 50 lb x 10 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 70 lb x 5 reps - 70 lb x 5 reps - 75 lb x 5 reps Weighted Hyperextension: - 10 lb x 6 reps - 10 lb x 8 reps - these suck and i don't understand how to do them without hurting my back. Weighted Sit-Up: - 8 lb x 30 reps - 8 lb x 20 reps fito2sa I think I have some sort of mental block against squats. I'm pretty sure I could do more weight, but I have a bum knee and I get nervous about it (even though so far squatting hasn't actually bugged it). So I'm working on that. I still can't figure out the stupid hyperextensions without hurting my back so I need a different exercise to do on this day to replace those.
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| # ? Feb 17, 2013 19:12 |
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Food from yesterday: I took my mom to Bruegger's yesterday before she left. I used to eat those western sandwhiches all the time. Looking at the calories now  .Today is WEIGH IN DAY! Today's weight : 211.6 Down 4.4lbs not to shabby I am mega sore from yesterday, I think I may hop over to the gym later and do a work out class, or just cycle. I wish it wasn't so cold out, it's making it hard to leave my house.
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| # ? Feb 18, 2013 15:46 |
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Today's food and workout: Cycling (stationary): - 0:30:00 || 7.3 mi Elliptical Trainer: - 0:30:00 || Moderate fito2sa Did pretty good, I had to go to a business event that had delicious snacks at it. I stayed away from the snack table, but they were bringing them around on trays too so I had a few. Overall a good day. Tomorrow is arm day at the gym!
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| # ? Feb 19, 2013 03:10 |
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Today started out as a blah day where I moped around feeling gloomy. It was so gray and icky outside and lady times and just general feelings of fattiness. I thought about just laying in bed all day and eating lots of cookies. However, the second week is where I always mess up and sabotage my good intentions so, I got over myself and went to the gym, and didn't eat any bad food like I wanted to. Food & exercise for today: the_hodag Tracked a Workout for 1,050 pts Today Cycling (stationary): - 0:30:00 || 7.5 mi Lat Pulldown: - 55 lb x 5 reps - 70 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - Jumped too quickly to 70 and it was too much Standing Barbell Shoulder Press (OHP): - 20 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 40 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 is not too bad, but 40 is barley doable. One-Arm Dumbbell Row: - 15 lb x 5 reps - 20 lb x 5 reps - 25 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps Barbell Bench Press: - 55 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 4 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 5 reps - Failed on the 65. Weighted Sit-Up: - 8 lb x 15 reps Bicycle (abs): - 15 reps fito2sa I realized that I was doing the bench press wrong last time I did it, I wasn't bringing the bar down all the way to my chest. So they got a lot harder today when I corrected that error. 
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| # ? Feb 20, 2013 03:32 |
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Yesterday was a rest day, so I didn't do too much. Food from yesterday:  I did read a lot more threads and decided to switch over to the modified starting strength. I think this will be the best routine to get me some gains in my lifts. I was really excited going into the gym today, but then my knee crapped out on me on my last set of squats. I finished the squats and was able to do one set of dead lifts, but it hurt too much, so I had to call it a day. I was pretty bummed, because I want to be strong and awesome, then I almost ate some McDonald's cause that's what I like to eat when I feel like poo, BUT i resisted (which is challenging since it's in the same plaza as my gym) and I came home and ate my beans like a good girl. the_hodag Tracked a Workout for 682 pts Today Barbell Squat: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 45 lb x 5 reps - 50 lb x 5 reps - 50 lb x 5 reps - 50 lb x 5 reps Barbell Bench Press: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 45 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps Barbell Deadlift: - 75 lb x 5 reps - knee was hurting too much after squats to do any more sets of these Machine Dips: - 100 lb x 5 reps - 100 lb x 5 reps - 100 lb x 5 reps - 95 lb x 3 reps - The assistance was at 100lbs Weighted Decline Sit-Up: - 8 reps - 10 lb x 5 reps - 15 lb x 5 reps - first set was body weight Superman: - 9 sec - 9 sec - 9 sec fito2sa I don't think the dips are logged in their correctly. I used the assisted dip machine, so the 100lbs was the resistance. I have no upper body strength. I also ordered a foam roller that should be here tomorrow and I'm so excited for that.
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| # ? Feb 21, 2013 19:46 |
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Thursday's food: Was pretty good until game night time where I ate a ton of snacks. blergh. I played Arkham Horror for the first time though, and that game is awesome. Yesterday was a poo poo day for everything. My eating was bad and now my car is broken and won't start. I'm trying to deal with that today because otherwise I have no way to get anywhere including the gym and I really want to go lift heavy things today. We're having people over tonight and making homemade pizza for them, so that will be fun and I will not eat all the pizza we make because I have to share it with 5 other people.
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| # ? Feb 23, 2013 17:04 |
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Today is weigh in day. Weighed in at 209.4 so down 2.2lbs. Need to stop slacking though, I've let everything slide the past few days.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2013 18:02 |
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Yesterday's Food and Workout: A little low on the calories, but I was pretty full all day the_hodag Tracked a Workout for 115 pts Feb 25, 2013 Cycling: - 0:30:00 || 1.9 mi || flat - 0:45:00 || 1.9 mi || flat fito2sa I know the exercise doesn't look like much, but I'm actually pretty proud of my bike ride. Last summer I bought a bike to ride downtown to my studio since it's only 2 miles away and parking is 7 bucks a day. But, I was too scared to ride on the roads and so I never rode it. Yesterday is the first time I took it out since I bought it, and it wasn't that scary at all! I made it all the way downtown without being smashed by a car, so success! It was wayyyy harder than cycling at the gym though, I was not prepared for that. This means though, all this summer, I'll be biking downtown instead of driving, yay.
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| # ? Feb 26, 2013 17:09 |
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Food & Exercise for 2-26-13 Walking: - 0:45:00 || 2 mi || flat - 0:45:00 || 2 mi || flat - 0:45:00 || 2 mi || flat - 0:45:00 || 2 mi || flat - Lots of walking to and from places today. fito2sa  Food & Exercise for 2-27-13  Such a bad split  . The boyfriend and I tried the Graze boxes that people are going nuts for over in the cooking forum. Although tasty, I inhaled them all without looking at the nutrition and they were a billion carbs. Barbell Squat: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 45 lb x 5 reps - 45 lb x 5 reps - 50 lb x 5 reps - 50 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 5 reps Bent Over Barbell Row: - 20 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - Couldn't get the form down on these so switched over to bent over dumbbell rows One-Arm Dumbbell Row: - 5 lb x 25 reps - 5 lb x 25 reps - 5 lb x 25 reps Pull-Up: - 6 reps || assisted || 130 lb - 8 reps || assisted || 145 lb - 6 reps || assisted || 145 lb - no arm strengh Weighted Decline Sit-Up: - 8 reps - 8 reps - 8 reps - Incline sit ups Barbell Curl: - 8 lb x 10 reps - 8 lb x 10 reps - 8 lb x 10 reps Lying Dumbbell Tricep Extension: - 10 lb x 8 reps - 10 lb x 8 reps - 10 lb x 8 reps Superman: - 12 sec - 12 sec - 12 sec - 3 sets of 8 reps each Walking: - 0:40:00 || 2 mi || flat Standing Barbell Shoulder Press (OHP): - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 40 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps fito2sa Finally got back to the gym! I dragged my friend along so she could drive me, and then I made her squat and now she hates me. The first set of squats made my knee hurt but I think my feet weren't far enough apart. I widened my stance a little and stuck my toes out more and my knee stopped exploding. I think in the next week or two I'll try and get some video of me doing some of the lifts for critique. I want to make sure my form is good before my lifts get heavier. Today will be a rest day as I have a billion pounds of work to catch up on, but I'm going to try and get to the gym tomorrow and hopefully after this weekend I'll have a car back!
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 17:09 |
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It's been a pretty rough last couple weeks. Boyfriend and I have been in a pretty stressful financial bind, I've been stressed about whether I've made the right career choice, I couldn't get my car fixed, or buy food, so we ate a lot of crap that we had in the cupboards. Good news is things are looking up! Tow man is on the way to get my car to take it to get fixed which means I can get back to the gym and I have GWS pulled pork happening in my slow cooker. Life got off track, but sometimes it does that, so time to get back to healthy life .
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Urgh, I'm no stranger to stress disrupting my fitness goals. Hang in there, things will get better! You've made some great progress so far, don't lose hope!
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The Macaroni posted:Urgh, I'm no stranger to stress disrupting my fitness goals. Hang in there, things will get better! You've made some great progress so far, don't lose hope! Thanks, things have been much better! I got my car fixed so I've been to the gym twice in the last few days. 03/09/13 Barbell Squat: - 45 lb x 5 reps Barbell Bench Press: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 3 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps Machine Dips: - 130 lb x 5 reps - 130 lb x 8 reps - 130 lb x 8 reps - The assistance was at 100lbs Weighted Decline Sit-Up: - 8 reps - 8 reps - 6 reps - first set was body weight Leg Press: - 5 reps - 50 lb x 5 reps - 100 lb x 8 reps - 120 lb x 15 reps - Set 1 was machine weight fito2sa This workout left me really bummed out because my knee was being a piece of poo poo and felt like it was exploding. Today's workout was awesome though! I remembered that I had some sneakers I bought awhile ago that are much more supportive than my normal ones for my knee (they're really ugly so they've been hiding in my closet) and I dug out a knee brace. With these things I was able to really get much better squat form and not worry about if my knee was going to break. I hardly had any knee pain, was able to squat more than I thought I could, and made it through all my sets. YAY! Barbell Squat: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 45 lb x 5 reps - 50 lb x 4 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 5 reps One-Arm Dumbbell Row: - 15 lb x 5 reps - 20 lb x 5 reps - 25 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps Pull-Up: - 5 reps || assisted || 140 lb - 5 reps || assisted || 135 lb - 5 reps || assisted || 135 lb - no arm strengh Weighted Decline Sit-Up: - 8 reps - 8 reps - 8 reps - Incline sit ups w/ body weight Superman: - 12 sec - 12 sec - 12 sec - 3 sets of 8 reps each Standing Barbell Shoulder Press (OHP): - 20 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 3 reps - 40 lb x 5 reps - 40 lb x 5 reps - 40 lb x 5 reps fito2sa I also made it through all three sets of my OHP at 40 which was really hard, but really awesome. Is the only difference between a military press and an OHP your stance and does it matter which one I do if I'm following starting strengh? I realized I've always done OHP and I don't know if I should switch to military press per the program or if it doesn't really matter. I haven't been tracking my food which isn't great, but I will be back on that tomorrow.
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| # ? Mar 12, 2013 01:33 |
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Food Yesterday - a little high for a non exercise day, but not terrible: Food Today - Pretty good - getting back into eating proper food and not junk like I have for the past week.  Today I worked out and it was awesome! It was my first day successfully doing this work out with the squats, deadlift, and bench press. wooohooo. I did need some spotter help on my last set of bench presses but I got 4 out of 5 on my own. Barbell Squat: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 5 reps - 60 lb x 3 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps Barbell Bench Press: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 50 lb x 4 reps - 60 lb x 2 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - Was assisted by spotter on the last rep of the last set Barbell Deadlift: - 65 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 75 lb x 5 reps - 85 lb x 5 reps - 85 was really freakin hard Machine Dips: - 125 lb x 5 reps - 125 lb x 5 reps - 125 lb x 5 reps - The assistance was at 125 Weighted Decline Sit-Up: - 6 lb x 8 reps - 6 lb x 8 reps - 6 lb x 8 reps Machine Back Extension: - 55 lb x 8 reps - 70 lb x 8 reps - 85 lb x 8 reps Lying Dumbbell Tricep Extension: - 15 lb x 8 reps - 15 lb x 8 reps - 15 lb x 8 reps Dumbbell Bicep Curl: - 10 lb x 8 reps - 12.5 lb x 8 reps - 12.5 lb x 8 reps fito2sa Been walking a lot too instead of driving everywhere. And I'll end this post with an adorable picture of Charlie wearing a hat. 
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| # ? Mar 14, 2013 03:44 |
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Today is a weigh in day 210. I can't believe I'm already on week 5, I feel really good about my exercise and lifts, but I really haven't done much in terms of weight loss. I've been much to lax on my eating, I'll do fine and track my calories all day but then I'll go hang out with friends or something and eat all the snacks and drink all the booze. So moving forward, much stricter. I'm aiming for 1800 on workout days and 1600 on non workout days. Here is yesterdays workout and food: Barbell Squat: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 4 reps - 65 lb x 1 reps - 70 lb x 5 reps - 70 lb x 5 reps - 70 lb x 5 reps One-Arm Dumbbell Row: - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps Pull-Up: - 5 reps || assisted || 130 lb - 5 reps || assisted || 125 lb - 5 reps || assisted || 125 lb Weighted Decline Sit-Up: - 10 lb x 5 reps - 10 lb x 4 reps - 10 lb x 3 reps - kept failing them with the weight Standing Barbell Shoulder Press (OHP): - 20 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 5 reps - 30 lb x 4 reps - 40 lb x 5 reps - 40 lb x 5 reps - 40 lb x 5 reps Machine Back Extension: - 95 lb x 12 reps - 100 lb x 12 reps - 100 lb x 12 reps Bent Over Barbell Row: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps fito2sa  Thursday I'm going to California for 5 days for work. I'm excited because I've never been to CA and more so to be in a place with sunshine and no snow. I will be staying with people I don't know and will be pretty dependent on them for all food / transportation so my goal for the trip is to not gain any weight while I'm there.
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You guys, I'm so sick of winter!! Everyday it's gray and cold and awful blahh. Today I didn't want to go outside because of said weather, but I got off my butt and went to the gym where I lifted lots of stuff. Barbell Squat: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 3 reps - 75 lb x 5 reps - 75 lb x 5 reps - 75 lb x 5 reps Barbell Bench Press: - 45 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 5 reps - 55 lb x 3 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps - 65 lb x 5 reps Barbell Deadlift: - 65 lb x 5 reps - 75 lb x 3 reps - 85 lb x 5 reps - Tried 100lbs just because and could not do it. Machine Dips: - 120 lb x 5 reps - 115 lb x 5 reps - 115 lb x 5 reps Weighted Decline Sit-Up: - 10 lb x 5 reps - 10 lb x 5 reps - 15 lb x 5 reps Weighted Hyperextension: - 10 lb x 5 reps - 10 lb x 5 reps - 10 lb x 5 reps fito2sa It was annoying because all the equipment was getting used so I had to do everything out of order. This one couple was doing circuits and kept hogging the squat racks for pull ups when there are a million other things in the gym to do a pull up from. But, I lifted well. I think in some of my earlier posts I may have miscounted plates. For example I have a workout where I said I deadlifted 105, but I think this may have been a lie. Today I tried 100lbs and couldn't even move it off the floor. So I guess I'm bad at counting  Here's my food from yesterday. I had dumb brains which you can see if you look at the snack section because I was wallowing around the house eating all the junk. Today is on track to be much better.  Two more days until I'll be here: 
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| # ? Mar 19, 2013 22:20 |
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Just a quick update. I'm back in upstate NY which is seeming especially dreary after a week in Santa Barbara, BUT it does look like spring may be coming. Anyways, It looks like I managed to not gain any weight despite a lot of eating out. But now it's time to really get my poo poo together. I have nothing coming up and no excuse to not eat right and exercise, so back at it today with tracking and gym.
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Please work out.
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