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Sex_Ferguson posted:Did people try and hack Vergil into the main DmC game, because this just seems like something someone would try until they realize Sam can't navigate through the game like Raiden. I know someone got him into the Bloody Palace but I don't know beyond that.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 07:29 |
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| # ? May 20, 2013 16:53 |
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Did people try and hack Vergil into the main DmC game, because this just seems like something someone would try until they realize Sam can't navigate through the game like Raiden. Outside of like the first mission with the intro to ninja run I don't think there's any part where you have to ninja run to get through a tight gap that Sam couldn't do though.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 09:11 |
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You have to ninja run during the infamous bridge sequence and later on into the game in R-04. Him lacking Raiden-specific animations for certain actions would be a problem too.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 09:21 |
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The only feasible way I can imagine it may work is if you were to mod the game so that pushing a key would switch your character on the fly, which is probably much more difficult to do than say. If you could theoretically do that, you'd be able to switch back to Raiden for the bits where you need to be him and then back to Wolf/Sam.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 09:24 |
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GUI posted:You have to ninja run during the infamous bridge sequence and later on into the game in R-04. Him lacking Raiden-specific animations for certain actions would be a problem too. But he can ninja run he just can't do the obstacle avoidance. You only need to ninja run to slide in that opening part of 01
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Probably me being a bit slow to realise but I think Khamsin was probably the last of Mistral's family's killers.randombattle posted:But he can ninja run he just can't do the obstacle avoidance. You only need to ninja run to slide in that opening part of 01 Don't you also need to slide during the slider assault in chapter 4? Sad lions fucked around with this message at May 18, 2013 around 10:53 |
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GUI posted:You have to ninja run during the infamous bridge sequence and later on into the game in R-04. Him lacking Raiden-specific animations for certain actions would be a problem too. If they have the same rigging then he should be able to play Raiden's animations just fine. No idea if that's the case, though.
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randombattle posted:Outside of like the first mission with the intro to ninja run I don't think there's any part where you have to ninja run to get through a tight gap that Sam couldn't do though. I don't even mean just that, I'm talking about stunt parts of the game where Raiden's running up and down buildings on the in game engine. I'm talking about fighting certain boss fights without specific abilities and attacks, I'm talking about how Sam is not Raiden so they couldn't just build the main game around him otherwise they would've made it an option to begin with to play as Sam. A Sam skin's one thing, him keeping his entire movelist and navigating through the game as he is in the DLC is another. It sounds like modding Sam to play in the main game would not only take massive amounts of effort but redoing the game so he's able actually get through including QTEs. I don't have a great idea on how modding works, but it seems to me like there's too much stuff Raiden does that Sam can't do that would make it impossible to play as him in the main story. Sad lions posted:Probably me being a bit slow to realise but I think Khamsin was probably the last of Mistral's family's killers. There's really not a lot about Khamsin we can infer other than he's a soldier. We also know Mistral doesn't like him, but that's it. Sex_Ferguson fucked around with this message at May 18, 2013 around 15:28 |
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Dark Souls released on PC with all the DLC to make up for it being so late. Actually you could only get the DLC on PC for several months. There isn't that much Rising DLC but I bet they'd package it in with the game by the time this comes out.Mr. Fortitude posted:Dark Souls on PC turned out remarkably well considering From only had a few months to develop it and had no experience with the PC platform whatsoever. I mean, the port wasn't great but it could have easily been unplayable. Most PC gamers have a controller hooked up to their PC at this point. Windows literally recognizes an Xbox controller as the "Windows Controller", loads of games these days are as plug and play with a controller as they are with a mouse and keyboard. I use a PS3 controller with mine. Steam has an entire mode that you can control with a controller, it works great. I mean you can try playing Dark Souls with keyboard and mouse yes but you're not going to have a good time SurrealityCheck posted:<--- finished DMC3 and 4 on DMD with keyboard only THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at May 18, 2013 around 15:40 |
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Sex_Ferguson posted:I don't even mean just that, I'm talking about stunt parts of the game where Raiden's running up and down buildings on the in game engine. I'm talking about fighting certain boss fights without specific abilities and attacks, I'm talking about how Sam is not Raiden so they couldn't just build the main game around him otherwise they would've made it an option to begin with to play as Sam. A Sam skin's one thing, him keeping his entire movelist and navigating through the game as he is in the DLC is another. It sounds like modding Sam to play in the main game would not only take massive amounts of effort but redoing the game so he's able actually get through including QTEs. I took her speech about her objective being more personal at the end to be implying that it had nothing to do with just not liking him or anything to do with Armstrong's philosophies. It's not an incredibly unlikely motive considering it's the only personal reason they handed us. I figure it's a lot more likely a connection than just shrugging their shoulders and saying "for reasons unexplained..." especially considering I really doubt we'll see anything more of these characters. I hope that's the explanation anyway. I find it a lot more interesting that way.
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So after replaying Blade Wolf's DLC and getting over my initial distaste I noticed a few interesting wrinkles in Wolf's playstyle. He's definitely the least fun of the three characters, because stealth in Revengeance takes almost no thought and his fragility means he'll get bulldozed in an actual fight, but he still has a few neat passive skills. - Clicking the left stick makes Wolf go prone. This doesn't hide him any better, but makes the Alert/Caution meter drain 2-3 times as fast, presumably through robot magic. - Wolf passively regens health. If you wait around until he lies down to take a little doggy nap, it'll tick back up. - If you perform an aerial Hunt Kill on an enemy and don't enter Blade Mode, Wolf will more than likely make a quip as the enemy dies. Most of them are unique. - This might sound obvious, but Wolf can Hunt Kill everything, from Mini-Gekko to Grads. He can also Hunt Kill enemies mid-combat with the help of RP grenades, though unfortunately this doesn't work on Khamsin. - The Heat Knives absolutely wreck Khamsin if you manage to hit his actual body, something like 3-5% damage per knife on Hard. So at least they're not completely useless. - Khamsin's main gimmick seems to be that the speed of his attacks is hugely variable; he can charge them up for three to four seconds or bust them out near-instantly. Incidentally, this makes getting the no-damage achievement for him a gigantic pain in the rear end, though still not as bad as Sam's Armstrong battle.
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| # ? May 18, 2013 19:22 |
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I don't get why they made the final boss the only challenging part in this game
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| # ? May 18, 2013 21:04 |
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Sex_Ferguson posted:There's really not a lot about Khamsin we can infer other than he's a soldier. We also know Mistral doesn't like him, but that's it. Well Mistral sets him up to be killed by Wolf and guides Wolf right to him so there's definitely something going on there.
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I must have spent at least an hour and a half trying to beat the final boss (I started the last phase with only 1 healing item) until I figured out that it's easier in the long run to do the manual cut sections rather than dodging them, since they net you healing items. Man, I feel stupid.
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Sad lions posted:I took her speech about her objective being more personal at the end to be implying that it had nothing to do with just not liking him or anything to do with Armstrong's philosophies. The only things we know about the Winds of Destruction are where they grew up and a bit of their back story. Mistral's been fighting in wars since forever, Khamsin can literally be anyone from any number of groups she's fought or allied with, the only things we know that she specified was her family's killers and some dude that inspired her. Khamsin could easily be related to the latter too, I'm not saying it's him, but he could have some relation to him. We know plenty about Sam to infer things about him, but not enough about Mistral, Sundowner, and Monsoon to really say anything for sure about. Just like we can't actually gauge who the person she's talking about that inspired her since none of the characters in the game actually interact with Mistral other than Wolf and they kind of don't fit the description, we can't really assume Khamsin's one of the people involved with killing her family just because she hates him. Really, there's enough loose threads for them to make a sequel and tie them up. These characters don't need to be alive for these questions to be answered and until there's more concrete information, everything else is just vaguely grasping for straws.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I'm mainly a PC gamer but playing MGR on PC seems like a terrible idea. There's a reason why every PC gamer should own a wired 360 pad, and it's because there are just some games that you need a controller for, and It Just Works.
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There are some games that work surprisingly well on kbm, like racing games (imo). It all depends on how much tlc the control tuning received. A big example of this imo is the GTA games: every single one since GTA3 has had a PC port that plays amazingly well for 90% of the game content, and then completely shits itself and becomes nearly unplayable when you get behind the controls of a flying vehicle. There's more than enough keys and flexibility to handle them, the responsiveness of the input is just massively out of whack and leads to nausea-inducing spinning and wobbling. I played through Ballad of Gay Tony with my ps3 controller sitting on the desk, swapping back and forth with it whenever I needed to fly. I also played through Silent Hill 2, 3, and 4 for the first time on PC, before ever seeing their console versions, and played them with keyboard and mouse. The SH2 port even included quicksaving for some reason  Dark Souls is, of course, basically unplayable with the keyboard, but that's a problem with the design of the controls, rather than the capabilities of the input device.
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OLIVIAS WILDE RIDER posted:There's a reason why every PC gamer should own a wired 360 pad, and it's because there are just some games that you need a controller for, and It Just Works. I do, and I have owned the same one since 2005. That doesn't make it any less of a terrible idea for those PC players who don't own one
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I do, and I have owned the same one since 2005. That doesn't make it any less of a terrible idea for those PC players who don't own one PC players who want to play improved versions of games mostly intended for consoles really should have one. I insisted that I could play a lot of console centric games with a keyboard but once I finally broke down and got the drivers for the PS3 controller it became so much more enjoyable. Seriously if you were waiting for next gen to finally arrive build a PC and hook up a controller to it
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Seriously if you were waiting for next gen to finally arrive build a PC and hook up a controller to it It really is the only way to play some games (if you have them on PC). I played through the new DMC on PC, but with a 360 controller. I'm not a masochist like SurrealityCheck.
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I don't understand the people who choose to use M+KB or Pads exclusively. My brother is one of them and refused to play games like Sleeping Dogs on my PC with my 360 pad even when my wireless mouse was broken and not transmitting properly. You wouldn't use a fork to eat your soup, unless you don't own a spoon. Using the right tool for the job is just common sense and there are so many games that are console ports on the PC now that a wired 360 pad is a sound investment. There are even custom drivers for it if you don't like the ones that come with Windows, which allow you to properly rebind the triggers. (It makes games like Dark Souls have the wrong key bindings though, so I would only use them if you need to for a specific game).
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| # ? May 19, 2013 07:07 |
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I knew a guy who played the first few stages of Devil May Cry 3 with a Guitar Hero controller. Just putting that out there.
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Oxxidation posted:I knew a guy who played the first few stages of Devil May Cry 3 with a Guitar Hero controller. Well now I've GOT to try this.
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Oxxidation posted:I knew a guy who played the first few stages of Devil May Cry 3 with a Guitar Hero controller. There needs to be a video of this and it needs to be using Nevan
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Wait how would you walk?
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| # ? May 19, 2013 13:59 |
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Those guitars have a rather terrible Dpad on them.
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Time for me to make a custom GH guitar controller to play Devil May Cry 3/4. Maybe move the left analog stick up to the top of the guitar and the right near the strum bar thingy.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Time for me to make a custom GH guitar controller to play Devil May Cry 3/4. Maybe move the left analog stick up to the top of the guitar and the right near the strum bar thingy. Don't forget to make it look like Nevan.
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Oxxidation posted:I knew a guy who played the first few stages of Devil May Cry 3 with a Guitar Hero controller.  HahahaWhat is up with so many people hating themselves when playing video games?
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| # ? May 19, 2013 19:53 |
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I played trough the PC version of MGS 2 with a mouse and keyboard. I played trough multiple 3d sonic games the same way. I also play fighting games with keyboard only... So I think I'm crazy enough to try this one.
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Well actually I might be crazy too, since I just remembered I 100%'ed the PC version of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 using just a keyboard back in the day 
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Well actually I might be crazy too, since I just remembered I 100%'ed the PC version of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 using just a keyboard back in the day Haha, I did the same and I don't remember it being that bad. I think.
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Fishing rod matches were the most fun you could have in Soul Calibur.
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| # ? May 19, 2013 20:35 |
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Rollie the Guar posted:Fishing rod matches were the most fun you could have in Soul Calibur. For some reason now I wanna see someone play Sega Bass Fishing with a guitar controller.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Wait how would you walk? I think the guitar's tilt sensor maps to one axis of the left stick, and the whammy bar maps to half of the other axis.
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Yardbomb posted:For some reason now I wanna see someone play Sega Bass Fishing with a guitar controller. "Give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish with a kick rear end guitar solo and he will live forever."
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