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Bagpuss
Mar 23, 2001

A little bit of solidarity goes a long way.


Phil Plait (The Bad Astronomer guy) is currently doing a live stream for the asteroid that will miss us later on but he's talking about the meteor at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featu...v=PFp5CHepOEw#!

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Mallory
Feb 14, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post


SpaceMost posted:

I remember reading an article a few weeks ago about how NASA knew Columbia was in trouble but decided to keep mum so that the astronauts wouldn't know what was coming. Makes me wonder if the government would warn anyone if they discovered a giant fuckoff asteroid was on the way too late to do anything about it.



NSFW NSFL

Space Shuttle Columbia Disaster [cockpit - final moments]


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2ab_1296603731

9mins til...

"Jets firing in the back i guess?"

(noise from outside)

7:28..."not normal..."

(noise from outside)

"really getting bright outside..."

(more outside booms)

silence...

Mallory fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2013 around 19:24

Ofc. Sex Robot BPD
Aug 30, 2008


KoRMaK posted:

I thought that they had (purposefully) unconfirmed reports. They went with a "blinders on" kind of approach. The way you mention means that someone should be brought up on murder and conspiracy charges, but what do I know?
It's kind of convoluted. I think NASA was initially concerned about something that turned out to be a non-problem. However, that non-problem would have been catastrophic if it was real. While NASA was still trying to diagnose it, the higher-ups argued for keeping their mouths shut so that the astronauts could go peacefully if the problem was legit.

However, what did end up causing the disaster was a separate problem that they were aware of, but they weren't sure if it would be catastrophic, so they kept their fingers crossed. If that makes sense.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007
...and finally, harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed.

evilbastard posted:

A few things.

Metrosat 9 had some nice pictures of the trail, which one blogger thinks makes it around 320km long. This says that it came in at a very low angle, which was drat lucky for Russia.

Nature has an article with an initial estimate of 15 metres diameter, 40 tons in weight. The worldwide infrasound detecting network has it pegged at a few hundred kilotons, with an explosion 30 to 50 kilometres up. (North Korea's recent test was 6 kilotons, Little Boy was 16 kilotons, Fatman was 21 Kilotons). This seems pretty large for a first estimate, I haven't found any others yet.

Edit: Yeah, that makes no sense. a Cubic metre of nickel/iron weighs maybe 8-10 tons, so I think their size estimate is way off, or someone has added a digit somewhere in the article. Maybe 2.5 metres in diameter makes a lot more sense.
It probably wasn't a nickel-iron asteroid. Breaking up in the upper atmosphere like that, it was much more likely to be a carbonaceous or aggregate. That size / mass figure is still kinda weird, but it's not out of the question that it could have been a lot bigger than 2m and massed in the tens of tons (40 seems high still).

NASA is also saying that the explosion was a large one, like the biggest meteorite airburst since Tunguska (though it would probably be better to say the biggest on modern instruments). The initial assumption was that the fireball was closer to the ground and the shockwave effect was a sonic boom. It now appears that it was much higher -- the trail is over 300km long -- the thing was moving faster, and the shockwave was from an airbust when it initially broke up (when the first really bright flash happens).

e: RosKosmos says it may have been moving at 30km/s which is really hauling. Average velocity for meteorites is 17km/s.

Klyith fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2013 around 19:28

SaucyLoggins
Jan 4, 2012

Panstallions For Life

SpaceMost posted:

It's kind of convoluted. I think NASA was initially concerned about something that turned out to be a non-problem. However, that non-problem would have been catastrophic if it was real. While NASA was still trying to diagnose it, the higher-ups argued for keeping their mouths shut so that the astronauts could go peacefully if the problem was legit.

However, what did end up causing the disaster was a separate problem that they were aware of, but they weren't sure if it would be catastrophic, so they kept their fingers crossed. If that makes sense.

If a handful of people knew with dead certainty that a world/civilization ending catastrophic event was going to occur, what purpose would they have in keeping their mouths shut? Seriously, why? You don't think one person would feel the desire to leak that info, or that there's really only one organization on Earth with the knowledge and technology to figure out if we're all going to get crushed by that asteroid?

Captain Backslap
Nov 9, 2006



I can't find the source for this. Link?

Ofc. Sex Robot BPD
Aug 30, 2008


SaucyLoggins posted:

If a handful of people knew with dead certainty that a world/civilization ending catastrophic event was going to occur, what purpose would they have in keeping their mouths shut? Seriously, why? You don't think one person would feel the desire to leak that info, or that there's really only one organization on Earth with the knowledge and technology to figure out if we're all going to get crushed by that asteroid.
No. I mean, maybe I'm way off, but given how huge the night sky is, I'm guessing the greater probability is that some hypothetical meteor that will take out NYC next year won't be detected until NYC is a smoking crater. However, if a giant meteor was suddenly detected and it was only an hour til impact on a major city, I could see The Powers That Be keeping their mouths shut since there's no time to evacuate the city and it's probably better to die suddenly than it is to hug your family and cry for an hour waiting for death.

Mallory
Feb 14, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post


SaucyLoggins posted:

If a handful of people knew with dead certainty that a world/civilization ending catastrophic event was going to occur, what purpose would they have in keeping their mouths shut? Seriously, why? You don't think one person would feel the desire to leak that info, or that there's really only one organization on Earth with the knowledge and technology to figure out if we're all going to get crushed by that asteroid?

People dont just die like in a game....they have to kill themselves.

To speak up would not just condem them but all their group.

And they would all also die

I guess "die" just doesnt mean much in a world of stupid/re-gen and extra levels

maybe be fat-tard who hates life cant relate...but drat...gently caress You!

Mallory fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2013 around 19:35

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

What did you do, Ray?


Captain Backslap posted:

I can't find the source for this. Link?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-explained.html

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007


Mallory posted:

People dont just die like in a game....they have to kill themselves.

I'm having trouble understand exactly what this means. Or was supposed to mean.

Peppi
May 17, 2011

PL ??


Fun fact, my girlfriend and my mom got hit by a meteorite when driving a car a few years ago. Windshield got a nice hole in it but they were luckily not hurt. I'll post pictures if I can find them when I go back home in a week.

edit:

I was watching the NASA stream on 2012 DA14 and the dude said they believe the russian metorite was about 15m in diameter.

Peppi fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2013 around 19:43

WASDF
Jul 29, 2011

EELS EELS EELS
EELS EELS EELS


Mallory posted:

People dont just die like in a game....they have to kill themselves.

To speak up would not just condem them but all their group.

And they would all also die

I guess "die" just doesnt mean much in a world of stupid/re-gen and extra levels

maybe be fat-tard who hates life cant relate...but drat...

What.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012


RCarr posted:

I'm having trouble understand exactly what this means. Or was supposed to mean.
Mallory's posts have gotten more disjointed and worse in their formatting as the day goes on. Mallory are you staying home from work and getting hosed up or something?

nullandvoid
Mar 7, 2006

Dog Sex is Hawt!


Mallory posted:

People dont just die like in a game....they have to kill themselves.

To speak up would not just condem them but all their group.

And they would all also die

I guess "die" just doesnt mean much in a world of stupid/re-gen and extra levels

maybe be fat-tard who hates life cant relate...but drat...



Can I buy drugs from you

Tovarisch Rafa
Nov 4, 2009


Mallory posted:

People dont just die like in a game....they have to kill themselves.

To speak up would not just condem them but all their group.

And they would all also die

I guess "die" just doesnt mean much in a world of stupid/re-gen and extra levels

What does this even loving mean.

AppleCobbler
Feb 8, 2003


Mallory posted:

People dont just die like in a game....they have to kill themselves.

To speak up would not just condem them but all their group.

And they would all also die

I guess "die" just doesnt mean much in a world of stupid/re-gen and extra levels

maybe be fat-tard who hates life cant relate...but drat...



Uh, yeah man. I'm getting tired of all these extra levels too

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

Your flesh mother used to bring me pudding.


Mallory posted:

People dont just poo poo like in a poo poo....they have to poo poo themselves.

To speak poo poo would not just poo poo them but all poo poo group.

And they poo poo all also die

poo poo guess "die" just poo poo mean much in poo poo world of stupid/poo poo and extra levels

maybe poo poo fat-tard who hates poo poo cant relate...but poo poo...gently caress You!

I replaced every fourth word with poo poo. I like it better this way.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011


KoRMaK posted:

Mallory's posts have gotten more disjointed and worse in their formatting as the day goes on. Mallory are you staying home from work and getting hosed up or something?
I think it's meteor sickness.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012


Oh Russian dash cams, how you entertain us so.

Mallory
Feb 14, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post


its p.simple...enjoy your time wasting...

NEXT....i know im bored....

(threads about?.....)

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

WASDF
Jul 29, 2011

EELS EELS EELS
EELS EELS EELS


I think he's taking advantage of all this meteor stuff and posing a commentary about video games.

Attention Horse
Jan 5, 2012

Yo man, you are out of step with Imhotep!


I don't know what's going on here but I'm entertained.

Ofc. Sex Robot BPD
Aug 30, 2008


DA14's impact caused a time warp and Mallory is posting from the post-apocalypse.

Mallory
Feb 14, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Thread is about...? not me....

great job

" Meteor Blasts Russia"


Lucky I didnt say I was a cop

Troll Bridgington
Dec 22, 2011

More scotch!


Mallory posted:

its p.simple...enjoy your time wasting...

NEXT....i know im bored....

(threads about?.....)

How long has your race studied us before sending you as their ambassador? When is the Ever Victorious Fleet going to exit out of hyperspace and lay waste to our defenses?

Captain Backslap
Nov 9, 2006


Someone needs to take a snooze in the drunk tank for a few hours.

Have any fragments actually been confirmed yet or is it speculation based on a hole in lake ice and a zinc factory with bad masonry?

Alex DeLarge
Jul 26, 2002

"Let me be emphatic..."


Mallory posted:

Lucky I didnt say I was a cop

Ooops! Cat is out of the bag Mallory!

Mallory
Feb 14, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Troll Bridgington posted:

How long has your race studied us before sending you as their ambassador? When is the Ever Victorious Fleet going to exit out of hyperspace and lay waste to our defenses?

I was bored even before you posted...

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010



Captain Backslap posted:

Someone needs to take a snooze in the drunk tank for a few hours.

Have any fragments actually been confirmed yet or is it speculation based on a hole in lake ice and a zinc factory with bad masonry?

Im sure that there are probably dozens of people out looting recovering whatever is left of the rock itself.
We should find out in a few days.

nullandvoid
Mar 7, 2006

Dog Sex is Hawt!


Either the drunk tank or the TPC has some INCREDIBLY unfulfilling forum invaders.

Also wouldn't any fragments from that comet be near indistinguishable from any rubble or rocks here?

e: I suddenly have a plan to make millions selling comet chunks.

Mallory
Feb 14, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Captain Backslap posted:



Have any fragments actually been confirmed yet or is it speculation based on a hole in lake ice and a zinc factory with bad masonry?

Nothing made it to earth

all damage was from the sonic boom

Guy Montag
Jun 24, 2005



Peppi posted:

Fun fact, my girlfriend and my mom got hit by a meteorite when driving a car a few years ago. Windshield got a nice hole in it but they were luckily not hurt. I'll post pictures if I can find them when I go back home in a week.

edit:

I was watching the NASA stream on 2012 DA14 and the dude said they believe the russian metorite was about 15m in diameter.

Dude, seriously? You need to find out if they still have the meteorite or even the car/broken bits of the car. That could be worth a lot of money. It's very very rare for a meteorite to actually hit a person or their property, and when it does happen it increases the value of the meteorite and often the property damaged.

After the Peekskill, NY meteorite ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peekskill_meteorite ) this happened:

Wikipedia posted:

After it smashed through the trunk of her Chevy Malibu, 18-year old Michelle Knapp retrieved the meteorite, after which it was sold to a consortium of three dealers for more than $69,000.[10] Today, small specimens of Peekskill sell for approximately $125 per gram. The car, as well as the main mass of the meteorite (which weighs 890 grams), are currently in the Macovich Collection of Meteorites.[11] Additional specimens of the meteorite can be found in Chicago's Field Museum, the American National History Museum, and the Smithsonian.

Mallory
Feb 14, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Alex DeLarge posted:

Ooops! Cat is out of the bag Mallory!

You wish...Get the S1W to sort this mess, or i'll never confess.

dvorak
Sep 11, 2003

WARNING: Temporal rift detected!

nullandvoid posted:

Either the drunk tank or the TPC has some INCREDIBLY unfulfilling forum invaders.

Also wouldn't any fragments from that comet be near indistinguishable from any rubble or rocks here?

e: I suddenly have a plan to make millions selling comet chunks.

Seriously. Even without the fervent meteor collector maniacs in mind, any debris from that thing would be extremely valuable. Every meteor hunter in the world just bought a ticket to Russia.

Peenigrippe
Apr 6, 2010

The inside joke
NO ONE gets.

MMMM hah! I'm learning from my lurking...the very recent account creation date, the cryptic ranting...Possibly one of those Kyoon or Wearbear critters?

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

Can't we all just be friends?


nullandvoid posted:

e: I suddenly have a plan to make millions selling comet chunks.

This is a thing that people do. I feel like a saw a short video about it on some nat geo program at some point.

Kinda like these guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oym8MrGAiUc

gobertech
May 23, 2009

"Either way, it's going to hurt like crazy."


Captain Backslap posted:

Have any fragments actually been confirmed yet or is it speculation based on a hole in lake ice and a zinc factory with bad masonry?

I'm guessing that it was Atmospheric focusing

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003



Is there the video of it making the huge booming sound when it hits the ground? They showed it on MSNBC this morning.

Hot Sauce Batman
Oct 8, 2011


Just turned on the TV to see if there was any news on this and the first thing I see is the History channel playing "Comets: Prophets of Doom"

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Captain Backslap
Nov 9, 2006


nullandvoid posted:

Also wouldn't any fragments from that comet be near indistinguishable from any rubble or rocks here?

e: I suddenly have a plan to make millions selling comet chunks.

I'm familiar enough with geology to have a suspicion that there'd be telltale signs that a rock from space and would be easy enough to differentiate from a rock that originated as a part of Earth's crust. You won't find limestone or metamorphic rocks falling from the sky, for instance. Continental crust is also silica rich and an older rock from space might have a different composition like a higher ratio of other elements than you'd find in crust.

Captain Backslap fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2013 around 20:02

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