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Revol
Jul 31, 2003

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Base challenge icons:

- Beat game (without warps when applicable)

- No deaths
- Pacifist: Do not hurt any enemy (except when required for advancement)

- CHEATER!


- Used warps
- No continues used
- No power-ups used


- Beat 1-1, 1-2, 4-1, 4-2, 8-1, 8-2, 8-3, 8-4 without taking damage.
- Dr. Fetus' Hard Mode Challenge: Beat hard mode with no deaths and no power-ups
- Beat normal and hard modes with no continues
- Beat game under 9 minutes


- Used warps
- No continues used
- No power-ups used
- All levels completed


- Luigi only


- Used warps
- No continues used
- No power-ups used


- Mario only
- Luigi only
- Peach only
- Toad only
- SMB2 Mastery: No continues, five levels beaten per four characters


- Golden Turnip - No warps, no continues, no power-ups, never pull up root leaves (except when required for advancement)


- Used warps
- No continues used
- No power-ups used
- All levels completed

- Beat the game in the frog suit


- Used warps
- No continues used
- No power-ups used
- All levels completed


- Used warps
- No power-ups used
- All levels completed

- No switches
- All Yoshi coins


- No power-ups used
- All levels completed


- All levels completed


- No Game Over


- 120 Stars
- 150 Stars in the DS version


- No Game Over

- 120 Shines


- All levels completed


- Collect all star coins (including bonus level coins)


COMING SOON - Collect 120 stars
- Collect 242 stars


- All levels completed

- Collect all star coins (including bonus level coins)


COMING SOON - Collect 120 stars
- Collect 242 stars


- All levels completed


- Collect all star coins (including bonus level coins)
- Beat S8-Crown
- SM3DL, Beat the game without using Tanooki suit


- All levels completed


- Collect all star coins (including bonus level coins)


- All levels completed


- Collect all star coins (including bonus level coins)
- Five Star Special: Complete every level, collect all Star Coins, discover every secret flag pole in the game, and catch Nabbit up to Meringue Clouds


--- RULES ---



* This is run by the honor system. We hope that you don't lie when you say that you beat Lost Levels without dying. If you cheat, you should own up to it.

* There is no restriction to what version of a game you can play. Emulators are allowed. You can play Super Mario World on your PSP and Super Mario Galaxy on your PC. Go wild. Just don't ask where to find those files. And of course, you can play the legal ports as well. The one questionable game is Super Mario 64 DS, as it makes significant changes to the game. I'll get back to you on that one.

* Save states, through both emulators and 3DS ports are allowed, but only in moderation. You cannot abuse save states to make the game easier. They should only be used at the end of your play session to save your place when you come back to the game. If you use save states beyond that, you should consider it cheating. This is a much harder line than the Zelda marathon.

* Beating the game does not mean total completion. You do not need to get 100%. In just about every game, this means rescuing the Princess.

* That said, you are always welcome to come back to the game and upgrade your mark. You can quickly beat Bowser in Super Mario World, and then come back to it later when you tell us you beat every level.

* You do not have to play the games in the order presented here. The idea behind all this is to do so, but this is not an enforced rule. You can complete these games in whatever order you choose.

* You can earn multiple challenges on one game, and you can be awarded for them, within reason. I want to keep it to two challenges, though.

* When you beat every game, you will be rewarded the marathon completion achievement.

* You can skip as many games as you'd like, and still be marked as completing the marathon. However, this will appear differently than someone who does complete every game.

* If you have one cheating mark, you cannot earn marathon completion. You're always free to go back to a game and beat it proper! Or, just elect to skip it and then be marked for a partial completion of the graph.

* At the end of the year, or when thread participation is ready to be finished, special recognition will be given to those who have proven themselves to be Mario Masters. Possibilities include beating every game with a challenge, or beating notoriously difficult games with insane challenges.

* You can have marks awarded to you retroactively for any game you beat since January 1st, 2013.

* If you started playing a game over two months ago, you must start over. I'm over halfway into New Super Mario Wii U, but it's been too long for me. I'll have to start it over.

* There is no time limit you have to beat the games by. Participation does not end at the end of the year, or when the special recognition rewards are given.

--- ABOUT ---

You may remember over a year ago, I ran a thread called the 'Year of Zelda', where we played every (major) Zelda game, using a graphic to track our progress. You could create and play challenges as well, like playing with only three hearts, or beating the game without dying. Although only a few people actually completed every game, I would call it a great success. We had well over 150 people participating, some completing the most insane challenges possible. I don't have archives anymore, so I can't find the thread. If someone would like to share that link, that'd be great.

I was recently asked if I'd like to do this again. I declined, because I wasn't going to want to participate myself. But, it reminded me that I did want to do this again, with a different Nintendo franchise.

I present to you, the Mario Marathon.

Same thing with Zelda. Remember, this is not a Let's Play. You are not watching me play through these games. We all are doing this. We play the games, and you report in to get marked on the graph, so everyone can see each others' progress. There will be challenges for each game, with special icons to indicate victory on the graph. You admit to cheating, and you get the cheating icon on the game.

Revol fucked around with this message at Apr 20, 2013 around 17:32

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Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Feelin' oh so silky smooth.


I'm in.

I think the games should be the ones with the word "Mario" in the title: SMB 1-3, Lost Levels, Mario Land 1 and 2, SMW, SMW2: Yoshi's Island, Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy 1-2, NSMB 1/2/Wii/Wii U. No Wario games, basically, and those already add up to 16 without Wario games.

All-Stars (both SNES and Wii) should count since the only things added were better graphics and save files. Well, there were some glitch fixes and small tweaks to the physics, but come on. Same games.

Possible challenges:
- No deaths
- No powerups
- No coins (unless impossible)
- Every level/exit beaten
- Quickest path/fewest levels beaten

Edit: It would be 17 games if you include Super Mario 3D Land.

Soul Glo fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2013 around 17:32

Revol
Jul 31, 2003

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Soul Glo posted:

Edit: It would be 17 games if you include Super Mario 3D Land.

Right, I wasn't counting Lost Levels at first. But that game list is what I had in mind. And yeah, I do include SM3DL.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Feelin' oh so silky smooth.


I completely forgot about it. I probably won't do any of the DS or 3DS games since I don't own one anymore and I'd rather buy a U before another 3DS. I'll probably do the six or so console games I already own first, regardless.

I've never beaten Lost Levels or the Galaxy games. Gonna be fun to finally do that.

Revol
Jul 31, 2003

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I've barely beaten any Mario games. I might have beaten SMB3. I know I beat SMW1 and 64. SML1 and 2 yes, and then... some of the NSMB games and 3D Land. That's pretty much it. Less than half.

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

BUDDHA'S A BRO
296 Fuckups and Counting!


I'm in. Just gonna wait on an eventual list, but I'm just going to stick with basic finish all the games, no save states.

I think for our list, we should also list what other systems the games came out on. Like for SMB1, we can say it was on the NES, the SNES (part of All Stars), the 3DS (3DS VC store) and the Wii (VC store as well as Wii All Stars)
I mean, people can emulate it up all they want, but it'll help to list all the ways you can get it legally.



And this is thinking too far maybe, but how about in 2014, Year of the Kirby?


We should also bold our entries like before. Ineffiable to join in for a standard no cheating run. I may or may not decide to use warps in SMB 1-3.

Ineffiable fucked around with this message at Feb 15, 2013 around 18:31

mastajake
Oct 3, 2005

They wish to join us.

Oh hell yes. I'm in. I was hoping for a Mario version of YotZ. mastajake

DarkHamsterlord
Jul 8, 2010

Step 1: Lay Trap

Step 2: Victory


I'm in. DarkHamsterlord

I suck hard at the old 2D games, even though not really that hard, so I've never beaten half of them. I also never managed to beat Sunshine, so this is a great excuse to finally finish those games.

Revol
Jul 31, 2003

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Thread updated with the first iteration of the progress graph. Over the weekend I should get the entire first post fleshed out, with a finished graph with all the games, sections for each game, and the beginning of listing challenges for the first few games.

How does everyone feel about the font used for the list of participants? Too much?

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

BUDDHA'S A BRO
296 Fuckups and Counting!


Personally I think it's fine. What the discussion may want to talk about is the games. We may want to offer alternatives for the 3ds and wii u games as they'll likely have the least amounts of people who own them. And what challenges to allow for.

Personally my idea is to substitute nsmb2 and wii u with paper Mario 1 and 2.


Gonna start on SMB1 this weekend. I assume we might want to stick with a rule of no save states and no warps (proper warping can beat the first few games in almost no time).


I kinda like how with Zelda, the second game is likely to be the hardest (lost levels, Zelda 2) and the least finished.

KUBaNPhillipay
Jul 16, 2004


Goddammit! I just did a full run of all the Mario games last year. I finished all of them except the NES ones (I just got a brand new NES so this will change). This might just convince me to run through all of them over again.


Mario Sunshine is the repeat I [most/least] look forward too...

KUBaNPhillipay fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2013 around 02:44

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Feelin' oh so silky smooth.


I just bought a Wii U, so I will be starting with the newest game. And you cannot stop me from doing so .

e: I'll do a quick run through of 1 tomorrow, maybe 2 as well. At least try to keep somewhat pace with everyone else. I can beat Mario 1 in <10 minutes with warps and getting lucky against the 8-3 Hammer Bros, but it still shouldn't take very long running without warps. I've played that game so much it's silly. Mario 2 USA will be a different story, I ALWAYS took the first warp in World 1. Gonna feel weird.

Soul Glo fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2013 around 02:38

g0lbez
Dec 25, 2004

and then you'll beg

g0lbez is in! I can beat most Mario games blindfolded while masturbating and huffing paint so I'm looking forward to some of the crazier challenges.

Sid Vicious
Oct 31, 2007

smoke

everyday


In so hard, I have been waiting for this day no lie. Way better at platformers.

Edit: Wait its cool if I can only play up to N64 gen games right, like if I can't play later ones I just don't get scored for it?

Edit2: Sid Vicious

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Feelin' oh so silky smooth.


Sid Vicious posted:

In so hard, I have been waiting for this day no lie. Way better at platformers.

Edit: Wait its cool if I can only play up to N64 gen games right, like if I can't play later ones I just don't get scored for it?

The way the Zelda thread was run, there were no real guidelines. Nobody's gonna make you spend money. Play which ones you want, talk about old games and help others. There's not even really a time limit, I think the last thread went way over the original planned time frame.

I only beat 2 games last time (though I did finally manage to beat Zelda 1, and without dying. That was awesome). I know I'll be much better with this marathon, Mario platformers are my favorite types of vidja games.

KUBaNPhillipay
Jul 16, 2004


After much (very little) deliberation I decided to officially join the fun, KUBaNPhillipay.

I plan to run all of them on the original console except Lost Levels and the 2 Mario Land games. I do think that Yoshi's Island should be included. I did it in my first run.

Sid Vicious
Oct 31, 2007

smoke

everyday


Soul Glo posted:

The way the Zelda thread was run, there were no real guidelines. Nobody's gonna make you spend money. Play which ones you want, talk about old games and help others. There's not even really a time limit, I think the last thread went way over the original planned time frame.

I only beat 2 games last time (though I did finally manage to beat Zelda 1, and without dying. That was awesome). I know I'll be much better with this marathon, Mario platformers are my favorite types of vidja games.

Same here, I grew up playing my older brothers NES and finally got myself a SNES...right around the time Gamecube was finally released. I own most of the originals, don't have the SNES anymore so I assume emulating is fine as long as we own a copy? I haven't even gotten to play NSMBU or Super Mario 3D Land, I really want to though. Or NSMB2, didn't even know that existed. Is that DS or Wii?

Dr. Fetus
Oct 20, 2012

Nobody loves Dr. Fetus. And that's why Dr. Fetus hates you!

I'll probably join in on the fun, Dr. Fetus. I don't have NSMB2 or U, so I'll have to skip out on those 2 games. I'll probably try a no powerup run for 3D Land, since the Tanooki Suit makes that game a lot easier than it should be.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Feelin' oh so silky smooth.


Sid Vicious posted:

Same here, I grew up playing my older brothers NES and finally got myself a SNES...right around the time Gamecube was finally released. I own most of the originals, don't have the SNES anymore so I assume emulating is fine as long as we own a copy? I haven't even gotten to play NSMBU or Super Mario 3D Land, I really want to though. Or NSMB2, didn't even know that existed. Is that DS or Wii?

DS: New SMB
Wii: New SMB Wii
3DS: Super Mario 3D Land and New SMB2
Wii U: New SMB U

ROMs are okay to talk about on the forums, and I believe several people emulated the Gameboy Zeldas last time. Just don't take 'em into territory, and we should be fine by the mods.

Some people like taking pictures of the ends of the games as proof they beat them. But I don't think people will hold you to it.

Zeeco
Jan 4, 2012


I, Zeeco, am participating. I don't have much experience with any non-3D Mario games so this will be a fun time for me.

All games with warps should have a challenge for beating the games without warps. SMB2 should have seperate challenges for beating the whole game with only a certain character. Less for the challenge, more to know how many people picked certain characters.

Dr. Fetus
Oct 20, 2012

Nobody loves Dr. Fetus. And that's why Dr. Fetus hates you!

Do we have to do the games in order, and is it okay to do different challenges for different games? Cause I might be starting 3D Land soon, since that's the only game I have with me right now.

Revol
Jul 31, 2003

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Ineffiable posted:

Personally I think it's fine. What the discussion may want to talk about is the games. We may want to offer alternatives for the 3ds and wii u games as they'll likely have the least amounts of people who own them. And what challenges to allow for.

Personally my idea is to substitute nsmb2 and wii u with paper Mario 1 and 2.

Ehhh. I really don't like the substitute idea. I'd rather just let them skip the two games, and give them the 'marathon completion' achievement. Maybe have an added requirement of a minimum number of challenges be completed to compensate.

Speaking of, I will mark skipped games on the graph this time, perhaps by blacking out the boxes. You can tell me what games you plan to skip ahead of time, or whenever.

Dr. Fetus posted:

Do we have to do the games in order, and is it okay to do different challenges for different games? Cause I might be starting 3D Land soon, since that's the only game I have with me right now.

The idea is to play them in order, but you don't have to.

Zeeco posted:

All games with warps should have a challenge for beating the games without warps. SMB2 should have seperate challenges for beating the whole game with only a certain character. Less for the challenge, more to know how many people picked certain characters.

Yeah, no warp challenges are a no-brainer. Dunno about the SMB2 character challenge. The idea with the challenges is that it, yeah.. adds challenge to the game. Now, with Zelda, I had to make the concession of item-hunt completion challenges. Not challenging.

I'll leave this up to the thread. What do you think? Should you earn a challenge if you play SMB2 with only one character? (There would be four icons for each character.)

Revol fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2013 around 03:14

bpc908
Jan 27, 2013

Kacho of My own little gaming world


I'm in bpc908

Definitely would love to finally beat all the mario games I have

Skipping Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and New Super Mario Bros U because I don't have any of these games.

bpc908 fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2013 around 03:33

Police Bear
Dec 31, 2007

im not goin to vvery wwell kill you am i that wwould be fuckin unconscionable


I, Police Bear, am participating. This should be a lot of fun; I've never done something like this before and I've never played any of the Mario games with special challenges or anything like that.

I plan to skip NSMB U since I don't have a Wii U and won't plan on buying one in the near future.

Specific character challenges for SMB2 sounds like a good idea, as long as you exempt Peach because I think that would be too easy.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Feelin' oh so silky smooth.


Revol posted:

I'll leave this up to the thread. What do you think? Should you earn a challenge if you play SMB2 with only one character? (There would be four icons for each character.)

Since you're the dude going through all the effort, I guess people can just set their own challenges and if you feel up to it, giving them (and whoever else follows in their crazy footsteps) a special icon for it. Didn't some dudes end up getting gold icons in the Zelda thread 'cause they decided to do poo poo that was harder than any challenge already set up for the game? I'd like to see some emergent stuff like that happen again.

You know some rear end in a top hat is gonna play through one of these games blindfolded and make us all look impotent.

Doom Goon
Sep 18, 2008


Actually, Super Mario All-Stars has like one small difference to it. Maybe two, I'm not sure about the Japanese version.

I don't think I'll participate as, besides The Lost Levels, I don't have access to the couple of games I'd want to play (Sunshine is one of them). Plus, the similar Retro Game Masters thread fills this niche for me.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012


I, Ambitious Spider am in. I don't know how I feel about playing through nsmb2 or 3D land, since I just did, but I figure it'll probably be a while before I get to them anyway.

Revol
Jul 31, 2003

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Thread updated with list of rules. Feedback welcome.

Soul Glo posted:

Since you're the dude going through all the effort, I guess people can just set their own challenges and if you feel up to it, giving them (and whoever else follows in their crazy footsteps) a special icon for it. Didn't some dudes end up getting gold icons in the Zelda thread 'cause they decided to do poo poo that was harder than any challenge already set up for the game? I'd like to see some emergent stuff like that happen again.

Yes, everyone is free to play their own achievement, and I will consider honoring it on the graph. The only time I ignored challenges were for item collections. I made an exception for the skulltulas in OoT.

Doom Goon posted:

Actually, Super Mario All-Stars has like one small difference to it. Maybe two, I'm not sure about the Japanese version.

Meh, I'm not concerned.

Dr. Fetus
Oct 20, 2012

Nobody loves Dr. Fetus. And that's why Dr. Fetus hates you!

Revol posted:

The idea is to play them in order, but you don't have to.

I'll leave this up to the thread. What do you think? Should you earn a challenge if you play SMB2 with only one character? (There would be four icons for each character.)

Ah okay, I get what you're going for.

I guess what could be a challenge, is doing 4 separate runs of the game, each with a different character. It's what the original Doki Doki game required in order to fully beat it. If it's a single character challenge, limit it to Mario and Toad I guess, since Peach and Luigi trivialize some levels with their jumping skills.

e: ^Never mind I guess.

Shyfted One
May 9, 2008


How long do we have to complete all of these? Until December 31st 2013?

I don't have a Wii U or a 3DS, but I can play all the games before that. I might get a 3DS this year, but I don't think I'll get a Wii U unless X comes out.

edit: Just saw the update. That's still a fuckload of Mario to play by the end of the year. But I'll throw my hat in Shyfted One

Second edit: So you can play the first couple using Super Mario All-Stars? Because I'd rather not have to emulate them when I can actually play them.

Shyfted One fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2013 around 03:54

Magnatux
Nov 13, 2004

The surrealistic adventure became my world.


I, Magnatux, will have to find Lands 1+2, play them and Yoshi's Island for the first time, and potentially purchase NSMB+2, but I am all over this like Yoshi on treefruit.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012


So here's a question:If Yoshi's Island is included, why not Yoshi's Island DS? Baby mario is in it, and though you can switch characters, you can do the same in SMB2.

I don't really mind one way or the other, it's just kind of weird.

The Skeep
Sep 15, 2007

That Chicken sure loves to drum...sticks


I just realized I've never beaten the original super Mario bros, just the gameboy colour port that had save files. count me, The Skeep in.

Gary Dupre
Aug 11, 2008

75PUP/37DNK


I don't know how many I'll actually finish or if anything special will be done in them, but count me in. Gary Dupre.

Revol
Jul 31, 2003

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Shyfted One posted:

How long do we have to complete all of these? Until December 31st 2013?

I decided to not title the thread '2013, Year of Mario' because I don't want that to be considered a rule. It's... a goal to strive for, but in no way to be taken seriously.

Ambitious Spider posted:

So here's a question:If Yoshi's Island is included, why not Yoshi's Island DS? Baby mario is in it, and though you can switch characters, you can do the same in SMB2.

I don't really mind one way or the other, it's just kind of weird.

Yeah, it is weird. I'm including Yoshi's Island because it's always been considered the sequel to SMW, which gives it a lineage to the main Mario games. Never considered the same for Yoshi Island DS.

I'm open to suggestions to the thread about this one.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I'm feeling strongly for excluding Yoshi Island. This is the Mario Marathon. Every other game is you controlling Mario (or, the option to control someone else). Then you add in the fact that the character you do control has a completely new gameplay mechanic, and it really becomes a game untypical to any other Mario game. That's two strikes against it. And let's not forget the part about carrying Baby Mario and losing him.

Edit 2: Two new rules added.

Revol fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2013 around 04:09

Pixeltendo
Mar 2, 2012

Get Fucked, Greed


Pixeltendo is in, the only game I don't have is SML but I might remedy that.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Feelin' oh so silky smooth.


I support dropping Yoshi's island because Baby Nintendo characters are dumb.

g0lbez
Dec 25, 2004

and then you'll beg

A pacifist run of SMB1 might be an interesting challenge. I was going to help think of challenges for the others but Mario games are pretty straight forward platformers which doesn't leave much room for crazy poo poo although I might just be uncreative right now.

Hammond Edgar
Apr 24, 2008


Hammond Edgar is always down form some retro gaming action. I've only beaten about half the games at one point or another, but I look forward to redoing them again with some challenges. Only games I'm planning on skipping are NSMB2 and NSMBU.

As for Yoshi's Island, I hope you keep it. It's an awesome game and I'd love an excuse to go back for a 100% run.
Don't really have much of an opinion on YI:DS as I've never played it.

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Happy Blue Cow
Oct 23, 2008

I have moooore respect for
Mr. Carpainter then others. Even if I become someone's steak dinner, I'll still respect him.



Happy Blue Cow is also in on this. Looks like a ton of fun! No idea how I'll get to play the WiiU game though...

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