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No mention of Duffy?
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| # ? Mar 7, 2013 00:16 |
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| # ? May 23, 2013 00:54 |
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| # ? Mar 7, 2013 00:19 |
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ZenVulgarity posted:Oh my God Erwin Santana's ERA+ and FIP Need a sabermetric vs traditional stat war in Ervin's anti-mvp candidate race. Dem home runs.
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| # ? Mar 7, 2013 00:25 |
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Abel Wingnut posted:No mention of Duffy? Duffy's still recovering from Tommy John and isn't going to be in the majors until May or June (and he's bad anyway).
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| # ? Mar 7, 2013 04:02 |
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Bob Shabazz posted:Duffy's still recovering from Tommy John and isn't going to be in the majors until May or June (and he's bad anyway). Well then why no mention of Kelvin Herrera?
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| # ? Mar 7, 2013 04:29 |
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Mornacale posted:Huh. I swear to god B-R had them at 93, I don't know what the gently caress (other than I am a dumb, sorry). if it makes you feel better I am probably just as dumb for thinking they will win 75 this year (provided they stay reasonably healthy)
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| # ? Mar 7, 2013 05:27 |
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 The San Francisco Giants, winners of 2 of the past 3 World Series, are an unlikely dynasty. Both championship teams were good, but hardly juggernauts like the Yankees of last decade. Neither team had better than a league average offense. The 2012 Giants hit the fewest dingers in the majors, and it wasn't close. But GM Brian Sabean knows how to draft pitching, snagging Lincecum, Cain, and Bumgarner in the 1st round. Buster Posey was also a first rounder, while Pablo Sandoval, the Giants' other star hitter, was an IFA signing. Sabean likes to overpay over-the-hill free agents, but several of his recent trades and signings were rewarded with career years. Sabean's more or less GM for life now, so Giants fans must learn to live with his faults. As a fan, I love dingers, but watching a team like last year's win with speed and defense and pitching is fun too. Without further ado, meet the Giants! Virtually the entire team from 2012 is back. Next to each player's name, you'll find his 2013 stats as predicted by ZIPS, a projection system developed by Dan Szymborski that, and I quote, "uses weighted averages of four years of data (three if a player is very old or very young), regresses pitchers based on DIPS theory and BABIP rates, and adjusts for aging by looking at similar players and their aging trends." ZIPS is very reliable, although it may not handle injuries or special cases like Lincecum's extreme loss of velocity well. Click each player's name for a fun surprise! C Buster Posey .299/.377/.482 After starring at Florida State, where he was named College Player of the Year and once played all 9 positions in a game, Posey was drafted 5th overall, zoomed through the minors, was a major league starter at 23, and is arguably the top catcher in baseball. At age 25, he's won two World Series and every important award a hitter can. 1B Brandon Belt .264/.361/.429 The Giants jerked Belt around for three years, yo-yoed him to and from AAA, benched him for the ambulatory corpse of Aubrey Huff, but this year, for the first time, Belt arrived in Spring Training as the unquestioned starter at first base. He's not your typical fat 1B who mashes. Belt is 6'5" and gangly and his swing is long. When he gets all of a pitch, he can hit towering home runs, but he's more of a doubles hitter and projects as a 15-20 HR guy. Pitchers were busting him inside for a while until he shortened his swing a bit. Belt's plate discipline is elite - he walks as much as anybody in the league. 2B Marco Scutaro .269/.320/.360 Marco Scutaro is 37. Marco Scutaro just signed a 3-year contract. Complete list of middle infielders 37 or older who received at least 300 PAs last year: Derek "past a diving" Jeter, Jamey Carroll. That's it. There's a very real chance Scutaro is out of baseball by the third year of his deal. Still I'm glad he's back; no one better was available in FA. Marco can be the utility infielder next year when we sign Cano. SS Brandon Crawford .230/.294/.340 The 6th-best defensive SS in baseball, according to UZR; tied for 7th, if you prefer B-R dWAR. At the plate, he, um, draws an acceptable number of walks and, he NEVER forgets to bring his bat with him. 3B Pablo Sandoval .285/.343/.467 Pablo is unique. The Kung Fu Panda is a .300 hitter, good defensive 3B, and all-round gifted athlete, with the physique of Mo Vaughn. Signed out of Venezuela in 2002, Pablo could always hit. Over the course of 6 years in the minors, SF converted him from C to 3B, he developed power, and in 2009 he stormed into the big leagues, recording 25 HR and a .943 OPS in a full season. He's since gained, lost, and regained weight, and broke both hamate bones, so health and conditioning are a concern. But the guy's a star. LF Gregor Blanco .227/.323/.326 He's a no-power 4th outfielder, perhaps a starting CF on a non-contender. A speed and defense guy. And he's the starting LF for YOUR World Champion San Francisco Giants!! Came up with the Braves, and in his one full MLB season prior to 2012, hit .251/.366/.309. That's not a typo, his OPB was 57 points higher than his slugging. Sure would've been nice to sign a power bat to fill the Pat Burrell role from 2010. CF Angel Pagan .270/.322/.403 Came up with the Cubs, had some up and down years as the Mets CF. Became a fan favorite for his speed and defense and had a career year at the plate, leading the majors with 15 triples. Giants re-signed him for 4/$40 in the offseason - a bargain if 2012 was legit, otherwise perhaps a slight overpay. RF Hunter Pence .262/.320/.410 With his weird golf-like warmup swings, huge stride, deep crouch, and violent, borderline-out-of-control stroke, Hunter Pence appears to be flinging his bat at someone in an attempt to severely harm them, rather than hitting a baseball. But he hits them pretty well; he's a consistent 25 HR guy who's hit for good average, with surprising speed. 2012 was his worst year, and he seems like a guy who might not age well. Fortunately he's on a one-year deal. FA in 2014. Backups! Hector Sanchez is the backup C. He'll play at least once a week, when Buster makes his weekly appearance at 1B. "Spider-Man" Joaquin Arias is the utility infielder. He's gangly and fun to watch in the field. Andres Torres is back to be the 4th outfielder; after a decade in the minors he overcame ADHD, made the Giants in 2010, won a championship, and turned back into a pumpkin, but hey it's neat he's back. World Series DH Ryan Theriot will not be returning, sadly. SP Matt Cain 2.99 ERA, 179K/55BB Workhorse stud who throws 4 good pitches. Averaged 210 IP and a 3.27 ERA over the past 7 seasons. Giants locked him up until 2018 last year. Cain is an extreme flyball pitcher who generates weak popups with his "rising" fastball and consistently outperforms his FIP. SP Tim Lincecum 3.67 ERA, 194K/78BB The Freak. Two-time Cy Young Winner. Elite changeup. Very distinctive mechanics with a huge stride. Fastball used to touch 95, but now it's around 89-90. Timmy was awful last season, it was painful to watch. Please bounce back, Tim. SP Madison Bumgarner 3.23 ERA, 195K/49BB MadBum is a hard-throwing lefty with a low, nearly sidearm delivery and a ton of movement on his fastball and slider. Curve and changeup are improving and both are at least average now. Bumgarner is just 23, but the Giants have already locked up their young star lefty thru 2019. SP Ryan Vogelsong 3.68 ERA, 130K/57BB Drafted by SF in 1998, then traded to the Pirates where he was a total bust. Vogey (I call him Vogey) then pitched 3 years in Japan, learned a cutter, and somehow returned a legit All-Star at 33. Hard-throwing righty who will pound fastball after fastball at a hitter. Decent secondary pitches, including the aforementioned cut fastball. One of the best drat stories in MLB. SP Barry Zito 4.31 ERA, 91K/53BB Won a CY with the A's, then SF gave him waaaay too much money in free agency. His fastball is a joke (84 mph) but with his rainbow curve and an assortment of sliders, cutters and other offspeed junk, Zito is a very skilled and entertaining pitcher. Just not a good one. Bullpen! Once again the 'pen owns. Sergio Romo and his top shelf slider will close. Bruce Bochy likes to name a closer, but he's not afraid to mix up his relievers, so look for Jeremy Affeldt, Javier Lopez, and Santiago Casilla in high-leverage situations, including save opportunities. Brian Wilson was nontendered after missing 2012 with his 2nd Tommy John surgery, but he may yet return. There's some other guys of course but, eh. Despite being defending champs, the Giants are by no means the favorite to win the NL West, as the Dodgers brought in a ton of talent. The D-Backs, Padres and Rockies should all hit well, but their pitching ranges from mediocre (AZ) to atrocious (COL). I expect a three-way race with the Padres and Rockies bringing up the rear, but in this division, anything could happen.
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| # ? Mar 13, 2013 00:17 |
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Both Scutaro and Pagan were likely overpays.
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After seeing what was given to Bourn and Victorino (who was projected to be a likely fit with the Giants in most media and rumor mills for some reason), I'm okay with the Pagan contract. Not in love, but okay. Scutaro's a problem for length of contract. The REAL concern about Marco is that in that second or (god forbid) third year that he will be blocking someone like Joe Panik in the same way that a statue of Aubrey Huff kept starting at first instead of Belt.
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The Pussy Boss posted:
I've always loved Zito. He is exactly as you say, entertaining. You could do a lot worse than him as a fifth starter...but then again you could do a lot better than that contract for a number five guy.
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Craptacular! posted:After seeing what was given to Bourn and Victorino (who was projected to be a likely fit with the Giants in most media and rumor mills for some reason), I'm okay with the Pagan contract. Not in love, but okay. Joe Panik isn't a prospect you need to worry about being blocked, but paying 40 year old Marco Scutaro 6 million dollars is money better spent elsewhere.
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| # ? Mar 13, 2013 01:13 |
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Politicalrancor posted:Joe Panik isn't a prospect you need to worry about being blocked, but paying 40 year old Marco Scutaro 6 million dollars is money better spent elsewhere. I agree, but the word is that the Cardinals were offering him far more money for two years and he signed with the Giants for the extra year of job security. You can say they should let that hang on the Cards' heads, but as TPB mentioned there wasn't a hell of a lot in the FA market for second this offseason. The economics of baseball are changing rapidly. Not so much that paying a 40 year old guy $6mil is a good idea, but in that teams increasingly have so much filthy loving money to throw around that what used to be defined as overpay not long ago is now "slight".
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| # ? Mar 13, 2013 01:18 |
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Someone in the Questions thread is asking what team to root for make more writeups you dummies (I'll probably make a Nats one if I get bored later)
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| # ? Mar 13, 2013 05:02 |
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Monicro posted:Someone in the Questions thread is asking what team to root for make more writeups you dummies I did the Angels, Im absolved of any other responsibilities.
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| # ? Mar 13, 2013 05:24 |
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Monicro posted:Someone in the Questions thread is asking what team to root for make more writeups you dummies I may do the A's some time this but I've been swamped with work and classes.
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| # ? Mar 13, 2013 05:26 |
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Someone needs to do a "We're hosed" revision of the Yankees, considering.
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| # ? Mar 13, 2013 05:26 |
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Politicalrancor posted:Both Scutaro and Pagan were likely overpays. Scutaro's a dumb signing (albeit one that everyone saw coming when he slap singled his way through the playoffs), but I think Pagan has a decent chance of working out. They really should have pursued a more legit LF bat though.
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tadashi posted:If nobody does the Red Sox in a couple days, I might take a stab at it. I'm kind of interested in looking more into them, anyway. I think, while they're probably not a contender they might not be nearly as bad as some people seem to think. I find myself unable to work up sufficient enthusiasm or hostility to do one myself, and I imagine the other Red Sox regulars are in the same boat. They look to be pretty mediocre, not contenders but not terrible. In any event, not worth spending the time to do an in depth write up for me.
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| # ? May 23, 2013 00:54 |
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:Someone needs to do a "We're hosed" revision of the Yankees, considering. Yankees team preview: 
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