Arm bars and corn rows: ladies invade the UFC 2/23 10 PM PPV (UFC 157 GDT)

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Does Ronda get another arm for her chair of terror? This poll is closed.
Yes	109	85.16%
No	19	14.84%
Total:	128 votes

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kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He'll finally get a ring!

The Card:

What will likely happen in the main event:

(Actual fighters not pictured)

Main Card 10 PM ET PPV
Weight Class
Women's Bantamweight Ronda Rousey (c) vs. Liz Carmouche
Light Heavyweight Lyoto Machida vs. Dan Henderson
Bantamweight Urijah Faber vs. Ivan Menjivar
Welterweight Court McGee vs. Josh Neer
Welterweight Josh Koscheck vs. Robbie Lawler

Preliminary Card (FX) 8 PM ET
Weight Class
Heavyweight Brendan Schaub vs. Lavar Johnson
Lightweight Michael Chiesa vs. Anton Kuivanen
Featherweight Dennis Bermudez vs. Matt Grice
Lightweight Sam Stout vs. Caros Fodor

Preliminary Card (Facebook) 6:35 PM ET
Weight Class
Welterweight Kenny Robertson vs. Brock Jardine
Welterweight Jon Manley vs. Neil Magny
Welterweight Nah-Shon Burrell vs. Yuri Villefort

Weigh ins 7 PM ET on YouTube, UFC.com, Facebook.

Find a bar or your local provider here: http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC157/watch

MMA Snack Rating:

A Steak Sandwich, should be delicious and satisfying, but you think you know what it will be like and it's just a tiny bit underwhelming.

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Make your predictions here and enjoy the hell out of watching 'History in the making'!

# ? Feb 22, 2013 21:48

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# ? May 25, 2013 08:45

-Atom-: Sep 13, 2003; This is an emoticon superimposed on an approximation of renowned UFC-fighter Chael Sonnen's visage.
I made this myself and totally didn't scrub my chest with acetone to make more room for sharpie-art.

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And germany has a really nice countryside, you should see it!

I trust the cornrow reference is because of Urijah "No Shirt Nation" Faber

# ? Feb 22, 2013 21:51

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; <3~*dandy*~<3

Uriah comes from a tiny punchman Asgard where shirt technology never came to fruition.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 21:52

Frot Lesnar: Feb 27, 2007; Midcarder que no ha hecho mierda

Snack rating should be

Hat tip to sportsgenius86

# ? Feb 22, 2013 21:58

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He'll finally get a ring!

-Atom- posted:

I trust the cornrow reference is because of Urijah "No Shirt Nation" Faber

That too, but mostly the main.

Frot Lesnar posted:

Snack rating should be

Hat tip to sportsgenius86

I messed that up

# ? Feb 22, 2013 22:01

Kanthulhu: Apr 8, 2009; "In all chaos there is a cosmos, in all disorder a secret order"

I'm thinking Machida will retire Hendo. Thoughts?

# ? Feb 22, 2013 22:11

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; Part of my training entailed getting the enemy to communicate.

If you are not rooting for Ivan Menjivar you are doing it wrong.

fatherdog posted:

Ivan Menjivar lived in El Salvador until he was eleven years old, right in the middle of the civil war between the guerillas and military junta. He and his family had to sleep on the floor of his mother's restaurant to avoid gunfire at night, until they were finally able to escape to Canada. Menjivar learned a new language, went to school, began training at a local gym, and eventuall became one of the latter day pioneers of MMA, having started fighting all the way back in 2001 at welterweight and lightweight. Between 2001 and 2006, he fought all over the world, in the UFC, K-1 Heros, King of the Cage, Pancrase, the IFL, and drat near every other federation extant. He put together a long and decent record, but managed to lose every time he had a chance to step up into the top ten. Finally in 2006, after injuries and financial issues, he retired, putting his fighting career behind him.

...OR SO WE THOUGHT! In 2010, Menjivar came back, tanned, rested and ready, and dropped all the way down to bantamweight. Despite a WEC loss to Noted Cool Guy Brad Pickett, the UFC folded him in when they absorbed the WEC, and he immediately rattled off a three fight winning streak against credible opposition. After a close decision loss to Mike Easton, he bounced back with his UFC career's second Submission of the Night performance in front of his hometown crowd in Montreal, and now thanks to injuries and replacements he's got a shot at perennial number one contender and one of the three defeats of his last pre-retirement year, Urijah Faber. Given the state of the bantamweight division, it's entirely possible a win could make him the number one contender (or at least, no more than one win away from being the number one contender) for the winner of Barao/Cruz. At the age of 31 and having started fighting nearly five years before either guy even started training.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 22:17

Mex: Nov 23, 2004; by Fistgrrl

Liz Carmouche on the UFC Primetime: "My fan club is The Lizbos, it's kind of a play on words between 'Lesbos' and 'Liz' "

Well, at least she explained it, because I just wasn't getting it.

I'm kind of rooting for Liz, just because she's such a huge underdog, but Ronda is so good, and charismatic, it's really her show to lose. They both seem like good people to have on the UFC.

I don't think Machida will retire Hendo, but Karate Kid will probably win. Hendo has less avenues for victory, I think. Hendo's gonna gas while Machida is still dancing around, and unless Hendo learns to time him in the first round or two, I doubt he's going to get the win. He's not going to wrestle, he's not going to out-work Machida.

Lid posted:

If you are not rooting for Ivan Menjivar you are doing it wrong.

But Uriah Faber has never won a UFC belt in his life

# ? Feb 22, 2013 22:22

Detroit_Dogg: Feb 2, 2008

As much as I love wicked armbars I'm rooting for Liz to shock the world.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 22:26

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; Part of my training entailed getting the enemy to communicate.

Mex posted:

Liz Carmouche on the UFC Primetime: "My fan club is The Lizbos, it's kind of a play on words between 'Lesbos' and 'Liz' "

Well, at least she explained it, because I just wasn't getting it.

I'm kind of rooting for Liz, just because she's such a huge underdog, but Ronda is so good, and charismatic, it's really her show to lose. They both seem like good people to have on the UFC.

I don't think Machida will retire Hendo, but Karate Kid will probably win. Hendo has less avenues for victory, I think. Hendo's gonna gas while Machida is still dancing around, and unless Hendo learns to time him in the first round or two, I doubt he's going to get the win. He's not going to wrestle, he's not going to out-work Machida.

But Uriah Faber has never won a UFC belt in his life

If Menjivar wins we could eventually see a superfight for the unification of the bantamweight championship and the welterweight championship, skipping everything in between. Menjivar needs his GSP rematch after the horrible controversy of their first fight!

# ? Feb 22, 2013 22:27

The Sphinxster: Jul 13, 2007; Next!

Kanthulhu posted:

I'm thinking Machida will retire Hendo. Thoughts?

He really is a wonder. How long can he keep it up? I guess pharmaceuticals are a factor, but who can say? He can't have too many fights left in the tank but then again he's still dangerous. I wouldn't bet on him retiring even if he gets slaughtered.

Detroit_Dogg posted:

As much as I love wicked armbars I'm rooting for Liz to shock the world.

I like armbars too, but a knock down, drag out type of affair would certainly lend more credibility to the new division. I feel like assigning a champion was kind of weird, but then I don't know how the UFC has handled that in the past.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 22:58

Mex: Nov 23, 2004; by Fistgrrl

The Sphinxster posted:

I like armbars too, but a knock down, drag out type of affair would certainly lend more credibility to the new division. I feel like assigning a champion was kind of weird, but then I don't know how the UFC has handled that in the past.

The Flyweight division was the most recent, they just gathered a bunch of guys and made them fight each other in a "tournament" style progressive elimination. Mighty Mouse won, but I too wonder why they didn't do it that way for WMMA- I guess they liked Ronda enough that they just gave her the belt.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:00

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; <3~*dandy*~<3

Ronda was the reigning and most popular champion of the league they were absorbing. They didn't have such a thing when they made flyweights.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:04

Captain Log: Oct 2, 2006; Dear Kickin' When Down, I know whatta a problem is...it's PRIDE! PRIDE RULES! MOVE AWAY TO UFC!

If the god damned 14+ inches of snow dropped on Kansas prohibit me from screaming at this card in a bar, I'll loving dropkick all the snow.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:06

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; Part of my training entailed getting the enemy to communicate.

The Sphinxster posted:

He really is a wonder. How long can he keep it up? I guess pharmaceuticals are a factor, but who can say? He can't have too many fights left in the tank but then again he's still dangerous. I wouldn't bet on him retiring even if he gets slaughtered.

I like armbars too, but a knock down, drag out type of affair would certainly lend more credibility to the new division. I feel like assigning a champion was kind of weird, but then I don't know how the UFC has handled that in the past.

Jose Aldo was awarded the featherweight championship without a fight and Dominick Cruz ostensibly "won" the UFC Bantamweight Championship in a fight with Scott Jorgensen in WEC but it was indistinguishable from a WEC Bantamweight title defense anyway.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:07

-Atom-: Sep 13, 2003; This is an emoticon superimposed on an approximation of renowned UFC-fighter Chael Sonnen's visage.
I made this myself and totally didn't scrub my chest with acetone to make more room for sharpie-art.

Also: Ultima Online!
And germany has a really nice countryside, you should see it!

The Sphinxster posted:

I like armbars too, but a knock down, drag out type of affair would certainly lend more credibility to the new division. I feel like assigning a champion was kind of weird, but then I don't know how the UFC has handled that in the past.

Don't be a nerd because this is a ridiculous point that people keep bringing up and it is mega dumb.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:09

Mex: Nov 23, 2004; by Fistgrrl

Lid posted:

Jose Aldo was awarded the featherweight championship without a fight and Dominick Cruz ostensibly "won" the UFC Bantamweight Championship in a fight with Scott Jorgensen in WEC but it was indistinguishable from a WEC Bantamweight title defense anyway.

This is good to know, at least to reply to people who go "Well, Dana really wanted to gently caress Ronda, so he gave her the belt, heh heh heh".

But then they might just move on to the "How much does Dana like Jose Aldo" argument

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:19

Novum: May 26, 2012; That's how we roll

Just out of morbid curiosity, has this card drummed up significant men's rights stuff on sherdog and various sherdog-esque regions of internet?

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:30

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; Part of my training entailed getting the enemy to communicate.

Novum posted:

Just out of morbid curiosity, has this card drummed up significant men's rights stuff on sherdog and various sherdog-esque regions of internet?

Yes.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:31

vainman: Nov 2, 2012; I find your lack of faith... disturbing

Novum posted:

Just out of morbid curiosity, has this card drummed up significant men's rights stuff on sherdog and various sherdog-esque regions of internet?

So much impotent bitching. It's hilarious.

e: beaten

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:33

Mex: Nov 23, 2004; by Fistgrrl

Any examples worth a laugh? I don't visit Sherdog and would prefer to keep it that way

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:37

Thermos H Christ: Sep 6, 2007; running out of the mirror the smells roses roses the voice that breathed o'er Eden.

Dana saw an attractive female fighter with impressive credentials, a penchant for poo poo-talking, and a track record of consistently finishing fights without smashing lady-faces. Dana, not being an idiot, realized he could sell that.

I still don't know how many fans WMMA is going to attract, but I think Ronda just might attract a LOT. Much like how Gina Carano generated way more interest than the rest of WMMA put together.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:49

Fork of Unknown Origins: Oct 21, 2005; Gotta Herd On?

I think in the case of absorbing an organization where it gives you a new division it makes sense to make their champion your champion.

How much more press is this getting than it would if it were Rousey versus #4 and Liz versus #3 in a mini-tournament? A ton I think.

I'm looking forward to it, I just hope it isn't a first round armbar (and I expect to be disappointed.)

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:50

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005

Thermos H Christ posted:

Dana saw an attractive female fighter with impressive credentials, a penchant for poo poo-talking, and a track record of consistently finishing fights without smashing lady-faces. Dana, not being an idiot, realized he could sell that.

I still don't know how many fans WMMA is going to attract, but I think Ronda just might attract a LOT. Much like how Gina Carano generated way more interest than the rest of WMMA put together.

Plus she's got a neck on her.

http://youtu.be/RThSMFheJOA?t=10m13s

Google Butt fucked around with this message at Feb 22, 2013 around 23:59

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:52

The Sphinxster: Jul 13, 2007; Next!

Fork of Unknown Origins posted:

I think in the case of absorbing an organization where it gives you a new division it makes sense to make their champion your champion.

How much more press is this getting than it would if it were Rousey versus #4 and Liz versus #3 in a mini-tournament? A ton I think.

I'm looking forward to it, I just hope it isn't a first round armbar (and I expect to be disappointed.)

That makes all kinds of sense. I don't know much about Strikeforce so I wasn't thinking about her as an established champ.

# ? Feb 22, 2013 23:59

vainman: Nov 2, 2012; I find your lack of faith... disturbing

Mex posted:

Any examples worth a laugh? I don't visit Sherdog and would prefer to keep it that way

Here's one telling Meisha Tate to keep her mouth shut about GSP

Here's one from yesterday that argues women suck at fighting because they don't have enough neck strength

quote:

lol exactly.

I think the few knockouts that happen can be attributed to lack of tendon strength in women's necks or whatever.

The way their heads flail back and forth is unnatural.

# ? Feb 23, 2013 00:01

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He'll finally get a ring!

Weigh ins are on, no Joe?

# ? Feb 23, 2013 00:04

PeteRoseHaircut: May 17, 2008; Thank you, Toronto!

Well looks like Burrell is getting cut... 175.8

# ? Feb 23, 2013 00:06

AjaxoftheSouth: Jul 7, 2006

So far Mike Goldberg has been jumping around and screwing up people's names.

# ? Feb 23, 2013 00:07

MysteryNad: Dec 5, 2003; There was something about his face. I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

Ah, the return of Brock Jardine

# ? Feb 23, 2013 00:07

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He'll finally get a ring!

Dan at 205. Hmmm, doesn't he usually come in further under?

Lyoto at 202.

# ? Feb 23, 2013 00:23

vainman: Nov 2, 2012; I find your lack of faith... disturbing

Liz Carmouche is winning me over. She looks so happy to be there

# ? Feb 23, 2013 00:29

Detroit_Dogg: Feb 2, 2008

kensei posted:

Weigh ins are on, no Joe?

He got stuck in traffic.

# ? Feb 23, 2013 00:47

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He'll finally get a ring!

Detroit_Dogg posted:

He got stuck in traffic.

I thought you were kidding but lol nope

# ? Feb 23, 2013 01:04

glug: Mar 12, 2004; JON JONES APOLOGIST #1

MysteryNad posted:

Ah, the return of Brock Jardine

Seriously I couldn't tell was that the Sultan of Size? The Warden of Weight? Groundskeeper of Girth? Prince of Pounds?

# ? Feb 23, 2013 01:10

fatherdog: Feb 16, 2005; *RONK, RONK*
Make that three rard-boiled eggs.

Here, have a minute of Hendo -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec8FIX-PAKw&hd=1

# ? Feb 23, 2013 01:43

Pooned: Dec 28, 2005; Eye contact counters everything

Thank god it wasn't a Harlem shake video.

# ? Feb 23, 2013 02:02

Skip My Posts: Aug 15, 2005

i don't remember who said it but i always think of this when he fights, Dan Henderson isn't the best but he's the greatest.

# ? Feb 23, 2013 02:14

fatherdog: Feb 16, 2005; *RONK, RONK*
Make that three rard-boiled eggs.

Skip My Posts posted:

i don't remember who said it but i always think of this when he fights, Dan Henderson isn't the best but he's the greatest.

duncan originally said it about Big Nog, but it's an appropriate description of Hendo too, sure enough.

# ? Feb 23, 2013 02:19

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# ? May 25, 2013 08:45

Ulio: Feb 17, 2011; by Y Kant Ozma Post

I haven't seen any Lawler fights since his loss to Jacare, I am guessing he got out wrestled in his other two losses?
If Kos is smart this will look like the Daley fight.

# ? Feb 23, 2013 02:20

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