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Welcome back, my friends to the show that never ends. We're so glad you could attend! Come inside! Come inside! So 2012 happened. And the Republicans got their asses kicked. Their archenemy Times are not good to be a Republican. Except for, you know, Citizen's United, getting a massive bailout from the Federal Reserve, unions at their lowest ebb since the 1930s, racial resentment against nonwhites at a post civil rights era high, corporate profits at a record high, real wages stagnant for over 30 years, feminist political organizations deeply in debt and on the defensive, taxes at historic lows, government spending crashing at its fastest since the end of World War 2, protesters being ruthlessly and violently crushed, science funding gutted in favor of creationist charter schools, being able to stalk and murder a black teen and have millions flock to your defense, and capturing 93% of the income gains since 2010. Huh, actually, it is pretty good to be a Republican. Or a straight white man (but I repeat myself). Despite their anger, they don't have much to be agreeved over. So let us instead say that times are not good to be a Republican politician. They have lost 5 of the past 6 popular votes for the Presidency. Their big wave of 2010 completely under performed (9 instead of 12 governors, failed to retake the senate, 63 house seats instead of 72). On every major issue, the GOP position polls at 35% or less. Basically, those idiots who still supported Bush, but thought he didn't go far enough? That's all the GOP has left to call on. That's pretty bad for the Republican party. And things are even worse than that. Sure, they kept the House of Representatives. The GOP gerrymandered the country to hell and back after 2010. They lost the House vote by over 1.4 million votes, but kept control due to the gerrymandering. On the state level it was bad too - for example in North Carolina, the Democratic party won 51-49. And the Republicans have a legislative majority they are using to run roughshod over the state. But the GOP faces a great and terrible danger - in their efforts to establish a "permanent one party majority" in 2004, they did a mid-decade redistricting of Texas in 2003, an action upheld by the Supreme Court in League of United Latin American Citizens v Perry. And unlike Bush v Gore, the Supreme Court forgot to add some language into their ruling stating that this only applied to situations that benefited Republicans instead of holding all people as equal under the law. So it established legal precedent for off-year redistricting. So if the Democrats take any states between now and 2020 they can undue the suppression of the voters. Which means the GOP needs to rebuild very quickly. The Tea Party wave of 2010 is up for re-election in 2014, and it is cruising for a bruising. In 2014 21 of the 35 Senate seats up for election are held by Democrats. 4 or 5 of them look good for the GOP, but they need 6 to take the Senate. Democrats need to pick up 17 seats to grab the House. Dems currently have a 5 point lead on the national ballot aggregate, so if that holds, they would be in a good position (It would take a 7 point wave for the Dems to retake the house nationally) Unlikely to grow, likely to lose, unpopular, facing a demographic dead end, and needing to deal with all this, welcome to the thread for discussing the utter shitstorm that is the Republican Party of 2013, and its attempt to unfuck itself. RECENT & UPCOMING EVENTS * Steal the Vote! (Don't steal the vote baby!) An aborted attempt at rigging the electoral college by having Republican controlled tossup states shift to allocating their EC votes by congressional district rather than winner take all. This was stymied when people did the math and realized that in Virginia, who was leading the charge, it would literally make a black vote worth 3/5ths that of a white vote. You can't make this poo poo up folks. Don't worry though, the PAC behind this is still pushing it * Special Election Shakeups! Kerry to Secretary of State means there is a Massachusetts seat open, but Brown says he won't run! Jim DeMint is out, working for a think tank, so Tim Scott goes to the Senate, opening his House seat. Colbert (sister of Stephen) vs Sanford (if there is a God, if Mark Sanford wins he will be seated on the Committee for International Affairs) * Debt Ceiling II: Debt Harder! Republicans claimed they had a mandate to keep doing what they had been doing, and apparently most of them still think that. But someone pulled the reins, and Boehner, Rubio, Ryan, and Cantor managed to get them to see that for some reason Obama was still in the White House January 21st (in flagrant violation of his being black!) so they needed to pay for what they already bought. Working class took a hit with the payroll tax going back to 6%, but upper tax rates went back up and debt ceiling got temporarily raised * gently caress non Republican states! The House rejected $60 billion in relief to the areas devastated by Sandy. Guess they don't matter because Climate Change is a lie and they don't vote Republican. This is basically what Boehner traded for the debt ceiling raise, apparently thinking no one would care if one of our biggest, most populated cities was left to freeze and rot. (New Yorkers can't understand the significance of 9/11, doncha know. They aren't Real 'Muricans. You betcha!). Huge uproar, the north eastern Republicans get really pissed at Boehner who has to later pacify them with 2 votes for a 9 billion and 50 billion. * Voting for Speaker! There was a very poorly planned out attempt to oust John Boehner as Speaker of the House to punish him for making him raise the debt ceiling and only offering the devastation of a major Democratic city in return. 15 defectors would have put it in to multiple votes, leading to a situation where Eric Cantor would have graciously accepted the role instead. How magnanimous of him. But it was put together at the last minute (by iPad where C-SPAN could see) and failed when Boehner "bribed" the north eastern republicans by not letting one of our biggest, most populated cities freeze and rot. He's all heart, that John Boehner. * SOTU Response! Marco Rubio gave a response to the State of the Union. In keeping with tradition, it went very poorly. The speech was crap, and the policies usual doctrine, but the now infamous "water lunge" is what has everyone talking. It is about on par with Sarah Palin writing notes on her hand - deflect attention from how horrid the speech was, lets conservatives feel persecuted, and lets the person who did it raise money off it. Which is exactly what Rubio is doing * SEQUESTER! With the debacle of the 2011 debt ceiling negotiations, Obama had a great idea. "Hey, those guys who are committed to burning this country to ashes, the ones who won't vote for something even if it is exactly what they want? Let's make the conditions for not voting for what they want so dire it will burn the country to ashes so that way they have to vote for what they want!" Anyways, we are facing across the board austerity cuts that will kill an estimated 700,000 jobs come March 1st. Obama is offering 1.8 trillion in deficit reduction, mainly through spending cuts with some tax hikes through ending tax expenditures. The Republicans are claiming that Obama has not offered a plan, and are using chopped up quotes to claim Obama wants the cuts. Humorously lead to goons capturing the GOP attempt at labeling #Obamaquester and running a political themed MUD with it. * Debt Ceiling with a Vengeance! When the GOP decided to pay for the things they had already bought in January, they only did so for 3 months. So the next debt ceiling debacle is coming up soon * Immigration Reform! The Republicans see that no one in the next few generations likes their out of touch non solutions. Their response is to reach out to Hispanics, thinking that if they say "Come mierda y muere"*2 those suckers will vote GOP despite it being fully against their interests. So the rich white guys hired a Latino guy to do some work for them and shill for it. However, the GOP is currently eating its own on this better than they did under Bush, and they turned against the leaked Obama plan even though it gave them 99% of what they wanted (that last 1% was the name "Mitt Romney" in the signature space). Expect millions to get screwed while the Republicans battle for power and prestige. * Violence Against Women Act! Republicans are against this. Finally passed the Senate after all the provisions about "gays and native americans are human beings too" provisions were removed. In limbo with the House. * Hagel and Lew! Republicans are making history by filibustering Obama's cabinet appointments. Also there is no one for Sec Labor, Sec Energy, Sec Commerce, Office of Management & Budget, WH Chief of Staff, a few dozen judicial vacancies, including 9 appellate court openings, and an empty NLRB because, again, the GOP won't confirm anyone Obama puts forward and rigs it so recess appointments aren't an option. * Rove vs the Tea Party! Infamous grifter Karl Rove, fresh off pocketing millions from billionaires and giving them nothing in return, has started another PAC pocket money from, this time targeting Tea Partiers. Kind of a "Darth Vader throwing the Emperor down the reactor shaft" moment, huh? Anyway, Joe Walsh, formerly of the House of Representatives, formerly of Illinois, and formerly of paying child support, has started a PAC to oppose Rove. Oh, and Newt Gingrinch has joined the fray, lambasting both but more on Karl. Basically, pray for a gas main explosion at CPAC. * CPAC! Conservative something something something. Basically pushback to any attempt to rebrand, like every year. March 14-16. Speakers this year include Bobby "Volcanoes" Jindal, Sarah "Blood Libel" Palin, Ted "Joe McCarthy" Cruz, Newt "Zoos" Gingrinch, Wayne "kill schoolchildren" LaPierre, Rick "Santorum" Santorum, Scott "Koch bitch" Walker, and some nobody named "Mitt Romney" * State level! At the state level the GOP continues its nuttiness with vaginal probes, surprise sex being a good thing, poors being bad, unions being worse, and even more bullshit that you need to see to believe. * ObamaCare! Kicks into high gear this year and next. Most of the GOP states yelled about states rights so now the Federal Government will be running things. Because that makes sense if you are a Republican. Anyway, Rick Scott finally caved on it, probably so he can scam Medicare again, so we are just down to a few states that aren't taking it up now. * More bullshit that I don't feel like typing up! You should post it here! And debate it! And discuss it! THREAD RULES: * Responding to Roquentin in this thread will earn you a probation for being really stupid from now on. * Think if this is more of a 2014 elections post, a "god the democrats suck" post, a Obama cabinet post, or a rebuilding post. Hey, there will be some overlap! But you have a brain, please engage it. * Post plenty of GOP thinkers pushing for change, not just the infighting! If you only listen to yourself you come to believe your own bullshit, which is part of the republican problem! Sullivan, Frum, Brooks, Will, Krauthammer, National Review, and everyone ripping them to poo poo, both from the right and the sane! Post plenty! Debate it! Discuss it! Somebody fucked around with this message at Feb 23, 2013 around 16:34 |
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*1 lol *2 PREVIOUS THREADS 1) Election 2012: Karl, Rush, and Hanity appreciation station 2) Republican Rebuilding 2012: Lame Ducks and Clusterf**** Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at Feb 23, 2013 around 12:58 |
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I am a straight white man and I'm certainly not a republican.
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*2: come mierda y muere
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I am a straight white man and I'm certainly not a republican. as am I. Roll with it and accept a Mark Twain reference api call girl posted:*2: come mierda y muere Son of a bitch. I'll edit it in, thanks Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at Feb 23, 2013 around 04:52 |
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I am a straight white man and I'm certainly not a republican. But we are a repressed minority. It's time to fight for our rights!
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I am a straight white man and I'm certainly not a republican. Well well well, I didn't know the ghost of Benedict Arnold posted here. Edit: Yeah anyway as a SWM who isn't a millionaire I can't really see how Republican policies benefit me either. Axetrain fucked around with this message at Feb 23, 2013 around 05:14 |
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I am a straight white man and I'm certainly not a republican. Do you know what we do to race traitors around here, boy? 
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That pretty much sums it up. Although it'd be good to include at least a bit about the vote on the debt ceiling in late January being a split vote, 285-144, with 33 Republicans voting against it. There's plenty of discussion to be had about if Tea Partiers don't vote according to the party line, they start to qualify as RINO in the most unexpected way possible. edit: I guess a lot of this does strattle the line of what comments go in which thread, but as the solid Republican facade shows more cracks like that the underlying issues certainly would belong here. Cheekio fucked around with this message at Feb 23, 2013 around 05:14 |
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quote:Joe Walsh, formerly of the House of Representatives, formerly of Illinois, and formerly of paying child support
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Appropos of nothing, but just want to re-iterate how terribly Cuban-Canadian-American Ted Cruz did with Latinos in Texas: 65-35 against him. The GOP is going to actually have to run somebody with a Chicano/Mexicano/Tejano background if they want to have a snowball's chance in hell. Cuban-Americans are just not going to cut it if his race was any indication.
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menino posted:Appropos of nothing, but just want to re-iterate how terribly Cuban-Canadian-American Ted Cruz did with Latinos in Texas: 65-35 against him. The GOP is going to actually have to run somebody with a Chicano/Mexicano/Tejano background if they want to have a snowball's chance in hell. Cuban-Americans are just not going to cut it if his race was any indication. Well there's also the requirement that said candidate not be a complete shithead but this is the TX GOP we're talking about. If they ain' a shithead, they ain' a real conservati(eeeee)ve.
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Great OP. One thing I'd like to mention, though-quote:Hagel and Lew! Republicans are making history by filibustering Obama's cabinet appointments. Also there is no one for Sec Labor, Sec Energy, Sec Commerce, Office of Management & Budget, WH Chief of Staff, a few dozen judicial vacencies, 9 appelate court openings, and an empty NLRB because, again, the GOP won't confirm anyone Obama puts forward and rigs it so recess appointments aren't an option.  I knew it was bad, but I had no idea it was this bad. How do these people even sleep at night?
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menino posted:Appropos of nothing, but just want to re-iterate how terribly Cuban-Canadian-American Ted Cruz did with Latinos in Texas: 65-35 against him. The GOP is going to actually have to run somebody with a Chicano/Mexicano/Tejano background if they want to have a snowball's chance in hell. Cuban-Americans are just not going to cut it if his race was any indication. It's going to take nominee Rubio losing the Latino vote by 30 points to wake Republicans up to the fact that having someone whose last name ends in a vowel on the ticket will not fix their problems. There's not gonna be a Republican Leadership council because the GOP has set up a Berlin Wall of crazy right-wing horseshit and anybody trying to float over in a home-made balloon to the land of the sane is going to get shot down by Club for Growth snipers. As long as two-thirds of Republicans in the House are from deep-red(and lily-white) Southern districts and don't have to give a poo poo about how the GOP is regarded nationally, there won't be any change.
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The Insect Court posted:It's going to take nominee Rubio losing the Latino vote by 30 points to wake Republicans up to the fact that having someone whose last name ends in a vowel on the ticket will not fix their problems. I'm just going to leave this here, because it really sums up the Republican thinking on Rubio re: Hispanics. 
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Great OP. One thing I'd like to mention, though- By believing that they're doing the true work to save this country. It's probably God's Work too!
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Axetrain posted:Well well well, I didn't know the ghost of Benedict Arnold posted here. I am not a ghost either, but I have many good friends who are Undead-Americans, and I'm trying to keep options open for the future. It's interesting to see this thread around for what is kind of it's third iteration - the first real discussion beginning in the election thread.
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Gen. Ripper posted:I'm just going to leave this here, because it really sums up the Republican thinking on Rubio re: Hispanics. And Republican thinking on race in general really: people stick to their kind and you need One of Them if you want to get their kind to vote for your side. One of Them is the secret weapon to winning the demographic war. See also: Michael Steele, Bobby Jindal, Clarence Thomas. Rubio's siren song pulls all those latinos along like the smell lines from a pie cooling on a windowsill in a depression-era cartoon.
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Axetrain posted:Well well well, I didn't know the ghost of Benedict Arnold posted here. How about racist? If you're racist then you might acknowledge that their policies hurt others more than they hurt you. That's gotta be a win, right? 
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Taerkar posted:By believing that they're doing the true work to save this country. It's probably God's Work too! Conservatives believe that the ends justify the means in all cases, assuming the ends fall within their narrow conception of the sacred.
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Fried Chicken posted:THREAD RULES: I can't help but think how hosed up it is that I may get probated for being stupid and responding to a troll rather than simply probating the "obvious" troll. Anyway, as a goon in the military I'm literally on the edge of my seat to see what is going to happen with this sequester stuff. I've seen some of the briefs circulated from the CNO and it has a chance to impact my life in very significant way. I'm also curious to see which way the Navy is going to go with this. They could begin implementing cost saving measures right away or they may decide to hold off for some sort of deal/resolution. Either way, I cannot help but think the Republicans are seriously losing the messaging on this one and if the economy does take a dip, it's 50/50 who's going to take the blame in 2014/16. History points to the President's party as the ultimate end, despite public opinion. Still, I think this single point of contention has a chance to cause some real difference in the 2014 elections. Boon fucked around with this message at Feb 23, 2013 around 09:08 |
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Boon posted:if the economy does take a dip, it's 50/50 who's going to take the blame in 2014/16. History points to the President's party as the ultimate end, despite public opinion. Still, I think this single point of contention has a chance to cause some real difference in the 2014 elections. I think the Dems in the Senate would be happy to hold a vote if they were ever loving allowed to by McConnell and his 39 shitbag friends. Sure, I'll say it up and down that Reid pissed away any chance of getting anything done this congress when he crumbled on the filibuster. However, you could also argue that it was a good-faith move and he expected those assholes to stop being assholes. Which wasn't the brightest choice in the book. I hope Reid is horribly tortured inside, laying awake at night with his brain whirling away like an off-center radial engine, demanding he answer himself why. But he's a Senator and those cocks probably sleep like babies no matter what. Back to the sequester, though: I think it's going to fall broadly on the GOP, with blame reserved for Dems like Reid for being a pushover. The Hagel filibuter was actually drat public, and people are fed up with the "JUST ASKING QUESTIONS, I MEAN THERE ARE SERIOUS QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED" act around here, but I do live in Omaha. I won't bet the farm on it, though - you can think the GOP has overplayed their hand every time and these fuckers will just tap into a whole new vein of heinous insanity that fires their dead-ender base right back up like they never poo poo the bed in the first place.
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Republicans are trying to play 11th dimensional chess with immigration reform. Since they actually have no intent of passing any significant immigration reform bill, they are saying that “I don’t believe President Obama wants an immigration bill to pass, instead I think he wants a political issue,” he said in a speech on Wednesday, according to a report by the Houston Chronicle. ”His objective is to push so much on the table that he forces Republicans walk away from the table because then he wants to use that issue in 2014 and 2016 as a divisive wedge issue.” This seems like the sort of messaging that signals that they have no interest in passing a good bill. Indeed, what I read is that they don't want to pass a bill and they want to play politics with it. I'd hazard to say that they are going to throw a tantrum and then blame their obstruction and failure on Obama for being a big meanie. I don't know, maybe they will surprise me and do something pragmatic and moral and pass a comprehensive act that could potentially benefit everyone involved. 
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Pohl posted:Republicans are trying to play 11th dimensional chess with immigration reform. Since they actually have no intent of passing any significant immigration reform bill, they are saying that “I don’t believe President Obama wants an immigration bill to pass, instead I think he wants a political issue,” he said in a speech on Wednesday, according to a report by the Houston Chronicle. ”His objective is to push so much on the table that he forces Republicans walk away from the table because then he wants to use that issue in 2014 and 2016 as a divisive wedge issue.” I want to see them 'call Obama's bluff.' Do it GOP, just sit down and say you'll play ball, it'll gently caress everyone's rhythm up.
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Fried Chicken posted:Which means the GOP needs to rebuild very quickly. The Tea Party wave of 2010 is up for re-election in 2010, and it is cruising for a bruising. Not quite sure what numbers you meant to put there. 2014?
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Boon posted:I can't help but think how hosed up it is that I may get probated for being stupid and responding to a troll rather than simply probating the "obvious" troll. Judging by the last thread, the trolls are getting banned. Phelddagrif posted:Not quite sure what numbers you meant to put there. 2014? Yep. Edited to fix Here, have an article talking about a problem facing the re-building - the echo chamber encloses the groups that should be beyond it http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...ho-chamber.html quote:The Real Conservative Echo Chamber Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at Feb 23, 2013 around 12:47 |
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Boon posted:I can't help but think how hosed up it is that I may get probated for being stupid and responding to a troll rather than simply probating the "obvious" troll. Just report them. If it's a legitimate troll, the moderators have a way of shutting that whole thing down. And really, I'm just serious about responding to Roquentin because anyone who does is really stupid and deserves time off for being stupid.
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Here is another wonderful ALEC bill that could quite possibly appear in your Republican-led state legislature soon. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...vote/?mobile=nc Think Progress posted:
So Lavin's fellow crazies aren't too far over the edge yet to think this bill is remotely a good idea, but if you're the type who accepts the notion that thoughts are tangible things, well then this is now out there in the ether. Republicans are still looking for ways to suppress the will of the people in the election booth, and the ideas they're coming up with are getting more bizarre.
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Highspeeddub posted:Here is another wonderful ALEC bill that could quite possibly appear in your Republican-led state legislature soon. Having not looked deeply into the issue, I'm fairly certain that this bill was not meant to be taken seriously. Citizens United is wildly unpopular in Montana, where campaign finance laws were some of the strictest in the nation. The state tried to mount a legal challenge against the ruling and I think most of the Republicans agreed with the challenge. In the last elections the voters passed a resolution directing the state to continue opposing Citizens United.
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Holy gently caress. That is straight out the most insane thing I have ever seen out of right-wing politics including all the crazy surprise sex poo poo.
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Boon posted:I can't help but think how hosed up it is that I may get probated for being stupid and responding to a troll rather than simply probating the "obvious" troll. The problem is when someone waltzes into this thread and says "Government workers are lazy amirite?" and hundreds of goons decide to quote that post and respond in the exact same way for the next five pages. Highspeeddub posted:Here is another wonderful ALEC bill that could quite possibly appear in your Republican-led state legislature soon. So we can just grant random things voting rights? Can my cat vote in municipal elections? Voting rights for squirrels in the woods? Suffrage for each of the bricks that makes up my house? Also there's the parallel question of if a corporation can vote anywhere they have property can a person do the same? If I buy a square inch of property in every state can I vote in every senate election?
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Hey, it works so well for the City of London Corporation so why shouldn't it be rolled out worldwide?
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Zoran posted:Having not looked deeply into the issue, I'm fairly certain that this bill was not meant to be taken seriously. Citizens United is wildly unpopular in Montana, where campaign finance laws were some of the strictest in the nation. The state tried to mount a legal challenge against the ruling and I think most of the Republicans agreed with the challenge. The fact that this crazy legislation was introduced in Montana first where there is strong resistance to Citizens United makes me wonder how it even ended up in committee. What a can of worms something like this opens up, eh? It makes me imagine ALEC is run by a mad scientist from another planet with a magnifying glass and we're the ants he's torturing for entertainment.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Also there's the parallel question of if a corporation can vote anywhere they have property can a person do the same? If I buy a square inch of property in every state can I vote in every senate election? The primary hosed up issue with that symbol of GOP policy is blatant; really giving a corporation the right to vote really The secondary hosed up issue with that legislation seems almost hidden with the elephant in the room of the first. And it is that it ties voting to ownership of land, something that people loving bled and died to stop.
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Highspeeddub posted:Here is another wonderful ALEC bill that could quite possibly appear in your Republican-led state legislature soon. I can't believe I didn't anticipate something like this earlier, natural progression that it is from Citizens United. Even though this is a state-level go-nowhere provision, I think it speaks well to the existential dilemma of the modern GOP: when faced with the necessity to change their ways to appeal to demographics they've traditionally scorned, the party would rather create new ones out of thin air rather than stop being racist/sexist/etc. also woohoo Fried Chicken used my Danton line from the last thread 
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That Irish Guy posted:The primary hosed up issue with that symbol of GOP policy is blatant; really giving a corporation the right to vote really
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Here's an example of one of the Cuban American Republicans who are going to make the GOP competitive again. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Senator Ted Cruz!The New Yorker posted:Last week, Texas Senator Ted Cruz’s prosecutorial style of questioning Chuck Hagel, President Obama’s nominee for Defense Secretary, came so close to innuendo that it raised eyebrows in Congress, even among his Republican colleagues. Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, called Cruz’s inquiry into Hagel’s past associations “out of bounds, quite frankly.” The Times reported that Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, rebuked Cruz for insinuating, without evidence, that Hagel may have collected speaking fees from North Korea. Some Democrats went so far as to liken Cruz, who is a newcomer to the Senate, to a darkly divisive predecessor, Senator Joseph R. McCarthy, whose anti-Communist crusades devolved into infamous witch hunts. Senator Barbara Boxer, a California Democrat, stopped short of invoking McCarthy’s name, but there was no mistaking her allusion when she talked about being reminded of “a different time and place, when you said, ‘I have here in my pocket a speech you made on such-and-such a date,’ and of course there was nothing in the pocket.” (Ironically Cruz' father was tortured by the Batista government in Cuba and fought alongside Castro to overthrow the regime.) I wonder how long its going to take before Republicans realize that not only does red baiting no longer work, it makes them look loving deranged. The Soviet Union collapsed in the early 1990s for fucks sake and its 2013.
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Chris Hayes responding to CPAC's invitation for him to speak at this year's conference. Apparently, he is one of America's leading conservative voices.
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Helsing posted:Here's an example of one of the Cuban American Republicans who are going to make the GOP competitive again. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Senator Ted Cruz! The great part about the GOP vesting all of its hopes in the Cuban-American conservatives leading Latinos to the Republican Promised Land is that virtually no Latinos vote like Cuban-American conservatives, even Cuban-Americans. Seriously, we split 52-48 in Florida this last time around. A lot of refugees backed Castro to begin with though, especially early in the Revolution - he originally organized as a constitutionalist trying to restore the short-lived Republic of Cuba.
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The Warszawa posted:The great part about the GOP vesting all of its hopes in the Cuban-American conservatives leading Latinos to the Republican Promised Land is that virtually no Latinos vote like Cuban-American conservatives, even Cuban-Americans. Seriously, we split 52-48 in Florida this last time around. Yeah even that voting bloc is no longer solidly GOP.
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