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I'm not going to make this like my previous threads where I talk about how lovely my own life is (Update: It's no better), but instead, this is about how lovely everything else is. I've lost all hope that the world is a good place worth living in, and that most people are content and/or happy. I see endless news posts here about corruption, police brutality, oppression, ineptitude, racism, sexism, and hate. I go on social networking sites like Facebook and see even more. My family turns on the news and I see even more. People have told me to go on a media blackout for a while, but that won't work because a) I feel like that would be the equivalent of being uneducated and going into denial, and b) I have enough negative stuff embedded into my brain at this point that I'm constantly thinking about what I already know. People have already tried to point out to me how much things have improved over the past couple of centuries, but I don't see it. I need to find hope in something if I want to lead a normal life, because my depression is severe. And don't tell me to seek medical help or call some hotline, because I've already tried all of that multiple times.
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 05:03 |
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| # ? May 25, 2013 03:39 |
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How the world is has nothing to do with how you feel. Who cares how the world is on a balance. If the world was 60% good instead of 60% bad would it make any difference?
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 05:20 |
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There's a lot of good stuff going on in the world too, there's just no 24/7 media coverage of it.quote:People have already tried to point out to me how much things have improved over the past couple of centuries, but I don't see it. I guess you could say we're just as enslaved as we were (we, the working class) 2000 years ago but I don't really see that either. I learned in history class that stuff pretty steadily, albeit slowly, plods on to the left. What is it you don't agree with? Anyway try smoking weed.
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 08:10 |
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Moridin920 posted:Anyway try smoking weed. Yeah lets treat symptoms instead of the cause, drugging yourself makes your depression fly away like a bad dream!
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 09:20 |
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The world is pretty loving amazing and there are beautiful people that you could potentially surround yourself with that will make your opinions about life and society better, but you won't find them while sitting around being mopey. Try volunteering. I volunteer for a fun as gently caress drug and alcohol education organization that goes to events and it was the best choice I made last year. It makes me feel like I am helping people and helping contribute good to society and i have made a bunch of friends. If you aren't happy with an aspect of the world, work towards fixing it. Bringing more negativity is just making the problem worse.
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 10:04 |
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You are pretty much the poster child of Cultivation Theory, which doesn't just apply to TV but all forms of mass media really. Media focuses on the negative, that's just a fact. It will always overshadow the good, mostly due to sensationalist goals. These days it's easy to start seeing the world as some cesspit, but crime has been dropping steadily for the most part, governments are finally investing in solar and wind energy, racial equality is slowly but surely making strides by presidential and even papal elections. Just to give some examples. I agree with this: taco party posted:The world is pretty loving amazing and there are beautiful people that you could potentially surround yourself with that will make your opinions about life and society better, but you won't find them while sitting around being mopey. Try volunteering. I volunteer for a fun as gently caress drug and alcohol education organization that goes to events and it was the best choice I made last year. It makes me feel like I am helping people and helping contribute good to society and i have made a bunch of friends. If you aren't happy with an aspect of the world, work towards fixing it. Bringing more negativity is just making the problem worse. You need to get out there and see some good, because you are most likely just in a negative spiral, with a more than slightly overly pessimistic cultivated world view.
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 10:20 |
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What a strange thing to say. I don't see what relevance the actions of others has to do with your living or not living. The graph of human decency has more troughs than peaks but so the gently caress what? Even if you take the view that humanity is coagulation of awful, greedy and spiteful people in general, it doesn't mean that you have to be any of those things, or the people you associate with either. Also, I'll echo that you only get to hear about the bad stuff. In the end, most people are pig-ignorant about pretty much everything, with large moral blindspots to boot, but I'd be hard pressed to say that people aren't at least well-meaning most of the time. It is when the media start reporting only good news that you should start to be worried.
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 11:33 |
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I wish people wouldn't keep recommending weed for depression, weed is fun but it's not a miracle cure-all and while it might make you forget being sad in the short term it makes recovery through conventional means more difficult in the long term. The world is what you make of it. It's easy to view everything in a negative light if you put the blinders on and focus on only the negative things, but bad and good can't exist without each other. That's not to say that all the atrocities in the world are OK, but you should try to see between the truth and what the media shows you. Terrible things have always happened in human history, the difference was they didn't have 24 hour news to show it to them. You also said "don't tell me to try seeking medical help." Well, I'm sorry, what can we suggest then? Have you actually spoken to a mental health professional? The way you describe your world view could indicate that the world isn't faulty, your perception is. My advice would be to go back to your doctor.
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 11:59 |
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I feel depressed because I'm too intelligent. Everyone around me is stupid. I'm kind of alone in this world, I have all this wisdom and when I go to Facebook it's like everyone is so ignorant and racist. Please could someone complement my supposed intelligence because frankly I've ran out of options and I need someone to confirm I'm relevant and above the average. Thank you in advance I'll be in my bed with my laptop pressing F5 please hurry the world is bringing me down.
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 12:07 |
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Whimsicalfuckery posted:You also said "don't tell me to try seeking medical help." Well, I'm sorry, what can we suggest then? Have you actually spoken to a mental health professional? The way you describe your world view could indicate that the world isn't faulty, your perception is. My advice would be to go back to your doctor. This guy has made a handful of E/N threads that all boil down to him being clinically depressed and has been for ages. I feel bad for him and wish him well..but we can't help him more than he's willing to help himself. So I guess since we can't magically make him better, we can make him feel better about the world? I don't know.
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 12:13 |
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When I was a teenager my Mom gave me this advice: Much of life sucks. Embrace the parts that don't.
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 12:30 |
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Quit losing faith and hope about the world and get some faith and hope about yourself.
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| # ? Feb 28, 2013 14:06 |
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Behonkiss posted:People have told me to go on a media blackout for a while, but that won't work because a) I feel like that would be the equivalent of being uneducated and going into denial, and b) I have enough negative stuff embedded into my brain at this point that I'm constantly thinking about what I already know. Human cognition, especially in men, is fine-tuned to provide a strong threat detection mechanism. Two that seem relevant here are particularly common among most human beings: Anchoring, where we give much stronger credence to opinions and hypotheses that are presented to us earlier than we would do if we'd heard them later, and Framing, where we let personal or cultural stories and value schemes determine how we interpret events and decisions rather than thinking about alternative ways of understanding what has happened. Now the Media as an institution exists to sell you stuff. It specifically gathers information out there in the world, frames it in a way that appeals to particular consumer bases, and by doing so in the format of "News" and trying to keep a form of market share for future sales, further anchors in people the tropes and traits that it expects its consumers to have. It anchors you in a certain amount of news sensitivity, because it deals with "current events" and wants you to keep coming back. And it loves misery and drama, because that makes for a psychologically gripping narrative. Basically, you have been trained to think that the world is a terrible place, that new terrible stuff is happening all the time, and that you need to keep up with all of this terrible stuff in order to validate yourself as a person. You have been trained to think this way because you're a target consumer, the media want to sell you stuff, and you're a human being, so you're vulnerable to exactly this sort of manipulation. And, of course, news is often accurate, and so you misinterpret reality as validating everything the media tells you, including the view that everything is terrible and you are terrible if you don't keep on top of all the terrible things that are happening. You need to go cold turkey until you've overcome this programming and recognise that there is more truth than is presented in either mass media, private media or the internet. Your quoted arguments are an addiction talking, and resisting their influence should be seen as something difficult but fundamentally necessary for your health. You can still read things! Try transferring your need for knowledge and learning over to your local library, where there will be hundreds of years worth of fiction, hobbies, crafts, science, philosophy and history to learn about, and where you can often do this in the company of other people with similar interests. Indeterminacy fucked around with this message at Feb 28, 2013 around 15:09 |
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| # ? May 25, 2013 03:39 |
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Behonkiss posted:People have already tried to point out to me how much things have improved over the past couple of centuries, but I don't see it. I need to find hope in something if I want to lead a normal life, because my depression is severe. And don't tell me to seek medical help or call some hotline, because I've already tried all of that multiple times. Well in that case, we won't. But that also means there's no real reason for this thread to stay open, if you're just going to tell us about good you are at giving up on things. You need to get help. Depression is a mothetfucker. It takes TIME to resolve; there is no panacea. Get therapy, work out, and keep trying. Another E/N thread isnt going to do anything - professional help will.
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