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kirbysuperstar posted:Is it only Impaler Drop that does it? It's any move that can move a character, I once pucnhed my enemy off the map like that and had to take them out with a gun. I had a thought the toher day. Doesn't it seem like that with the success of Hyrule Warriors, a Disgaea Warriors would be amazing?
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Hunter Noventa posted:It's any move that can move a character, I once pucnhed my enemy off the map like that and had to take them out with a gun. I dont know about amazing...would I still play? YES.
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Hunter Noventa posted:It's any move that can move a character, I once pucnhed my enemy off the map like that and had to take them out with a gun. Ugh. So far it's only happened when I cancel the animation on Impaler Drop and even then not that often but that's a bastard of a bug.
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AkumaHokoru posted:I dont know about amazing...would I still play? YES. I can totally see Laharl dashing around a lavafield with a big-rear end sword cutting a swathe of destruction through hordes of Prinnies. And then his special moves are Blazing Knuckle, Overlord's Wrath and Meteor Impact. There would have to be a dedicated 'Throw Prinny' button.
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Hunter Noventa posted:I can totally see Laharl dashing around a lavafield with a big-rear end sword cutting a swathe of destruction through hordes of Prinnies. And then his special moves are Blazing Knuckle, Overlord's Wrath and Meteor Impact. I'd buy this game.
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Okay, I'm in the postgame of Disgaea 3. I'm to the point where my choices are to go fight Baal or go do stupid poo poo like reverse pirating and command attacks. Should I just move to Disgaea 4, or do alternate modes? Is there as much postgame stuff to do in 4 that hopefully is more enjoyable? Doctor Goat fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Dec 17, 2014 |
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Doctor Goat posted:Okay, I'm in the postgame of Disgaea 3. I'm to the point where my choices are to go fight Baal or go do stupid poo poo like reverse pirating and command attacks. There's quite a few things in the D4 endgame, but after a certain point (facing a lv 3000 boss) you have to do hours of luck based save scum nonsense to unlock the Land of Carnage and start the second half. It's lame as heck. If you have a PS3, I'd look at Disgaea D2 instead. It has a pretty big endgame, especially when you factor in Rasetsu mode, a new paradigm where almost all the caps are broken, stats go into the trillions, and Baal is even Baalier. Plus LoC mode (it's just a switch in DD2) lets you passively steal stats all the time while fighting. Plus items go to Level 300 (999 under Rasetsu). DD2. It's just the best.
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I don't have a PS3.  I want to get my hands on one but I haven't been able to.For some reason I like playing games like Disgaea on the go, which is why I've managed to put so much time into 3.
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projecthalaxy posted:It has a pretty big endgame, especially when you factor in Rasetsu mode, a new paradigm where almost all the caps are broken, stats go into the trillions, and Baal is even Baalier. Plus LoC mode (it's just a switch in DD2) lets you passively steal stats all the time while fighting. Plus items go to Level 300 (999 under Rasetsu).  Doctor Goat posted:I don't have a PS3.
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Neurion posted:I know what my next purchase is. It's pretty much radical. Every time I kill the level 9999 guys at CoO3, my dude gets I think 30000 HP and SP and 3-6000 to all stats.
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I've played through Disgaea 1 and ZHP. ZHP is really good. 2's got some really hosed scaling on the Vita, unfortunately, which sucks because it has weird lag on the PSP-1000. Disgaea D2's cheat shop level control and xp/hl/mana controls got into Disgaea 4 and it's wonderful 
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Doctor Goat posted:Disgaea D2's cheat shop level control and xp/hl/mana controls got into Disgaea 4 and it's wonderful
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The LoC in Disgaea 3 seems to be really tedious and annoying to get to, too. Reverse Pirating is also very, very janky and annoying. Can I subdue someone in RP just by running over and killing them without toting them all the way back in 3 turns?
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Don't forget that there are actually three full sets of Flonzor X parts, they drop in the same places/ways, and only one of them will get you into the LOC. The game does not really communicate this. It's really super bad and all.
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projecthalaxy posted:It's pretty much radical. Every time I kill the level 9999 guys at CoO3, my dude gets I think 30000 HP and SP and 3-6000 to all stats. And when you reincarnate/transmigrate, do these improved stats affect the new base? I'm only on the tip of the iceberg for end-game stuff, but this sounds like win-win all around.
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XkyRauh posted:And when you reincarnate/transmigrate, do these improved stats affect the new base? I'm only on the tip of the iceberg for end-game stuff, but this sounds like win-win all around. I think so, yeah.
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Doctor Goat posted:Can I subdue someone in RP just by running over and killing them without toting them all the way back in 3 turns? Yep, just killing an item boss or specialist counts, but you do need to tote level spheres back to your ship to claim them.
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gently caress totin' people then, I'm just going to collect Statitstitsiticians by throwing my best mage vaguely in their direction and nuking them.
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At least in DD2, you get double the effectiveness/count (Statistician 40 instead of Stat. 20 or what have you) for bringing them on board ship instead of killing them. I am not sure if D3 has that rule, but it might be something to consider.
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You do, but you get none at all for not being able to get to them at all.  I'd rather have weaker ones than no ones, and it's not hard to farm them once I can do this.
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okay, beating down a Lancer got me a level 2 Lancer innocent. It was a level 3500 NPC!
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Doctor Goat posted:okay, beating down a Lancer got me a level 2 Lancer innocent. If it helps for the future don't kill innocents while pirating unless you A: Have only a single turn (or two) left and need to secure it (though your better off restarting in that case) or B: If most of your team is dead and you have no way of getting it back to your ship in time Killing them horribly maims the level they'll be at while "capturing" them by throwing them onto your ship before you set sail will more often or not result in better out of the box dudes. You can kill a statician and it'll be level 2 when you finish, but if it's on the ship and you clear the board/run out of turns it'll be 34 or so.
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The GameFAQs page and the DoubleJump strategy guide that's on Google Books for some reason both say it just halves it when you kill 'em My problem's getting a full string of dudes across the map who can all survive a turn out, or managing to even get my hands on an NPC. I'm underlevelled to be raiding in the higher level things I have access to, but I don't know if it's worth going lower. I've already stopped even trying on a Level 9999 item I have.
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projecthalaxy posted:Don't forget that there are actually three full sets of Flonzor X parts, they drop in the same places/ways, and only one of them will get you into the LOC. The game does not really communicate this. It's really super bad and all. It didn't seem that bad to me. I didn't bother savescumming for any of it, since getting a wrong part increases the chance of getting the right one next time. Didn't take long at all. Even diving to floor 90 of a legendary item to find the Meowkin Pirates wasn't bad because it was an item I wanted to dive anyways. Did I just get lucky?  Doctor Goat posted:okay, beating down a Lancer got me a level 2 Lancer innocent. Equipment mastery specialists come in at really low levels, yes. You're probably best off getting one to either level 16 or 32 and then duping it the rest of the way to 500.
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Yeah, I just beat up a different type and got a level 250 guy from an innocent kill. I didn't know specific types came in at different levels!
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maou shoujo posted:It didn't seem that bad to me. I didn't bother savescumming for any of it, since getting a wrong part increases the chance of getting the right one next time. Didn't take long at all. Even diving to floor 90 of a legendary item to find the Meowkin Pirates wasn't bad because it was an item I wanted to dive anyways. Did I just get lucky? Either you were profoundly lucky or I was the opposite, it took me like 60 tries to get even one of them. Then I ran through floors 90-100 of a couple different items about 10 times, never found the Meowkins. Then I set D4V down and have never completed it. I like the story and extra campaigns and all, but for deep endgame, DD2 is just miles better.
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Doctor Goat posted:Yeah, I just beat up a different type and got a level 250 guy from an innocent kill. I didn't know specific types came in at different levels! The Innocent's actual level is unrelated to the level you encounter them in the Item World, and yeah, equipment boosters and the like come in at very low levels. Item duping is the easiest way to dramatically increase their levels.
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Doctor Goat posted:My problem's getting a full string of dudes across the map who can all survive a turn out, or managing to even get my hands on an NPC. I'm underlevelled to be raiding in the higher level things I have access to, but I don't know if it's worth going lower. Monster characters have a "catch/receive" ability where if you throw something at them, they will 'bounce' the thing you threw in whatever direction they're facing. This 'bounce' doesn't count as an action, doesn't use up their turn - and doesn't prevent you from "cancelling" their movement and sending them back to base. Create a half-dozen or so mothmen and give them all 3 pairs of shoes. Send one humanoid out next to the guy you want to cap, pick 'em up, then bring out your mothmen. The 'bounce' will always travel the full range of their throw if it can, or less if it'd go off the edge or hit an enemy, so just arrange them in a path back to the ship. Throw, watch the fun, then cancel your mothmen back to base and do it again...
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Smello posted:Monster characters have a "catch/receive" ability where if you throw something at them, they will 'bounce' the thing you threw in whatever direction they're facing. This 'bounce' doesn't count as an action, doesn't use up their turn - and doesn't prevent you from "cancelling" their movement and sending them back to base. You are now my dear friend, for I was too stupid to think of this. Right now I'm duping a set of Accelerators with 2 move, a decent Mentor, and a low level Statistician. I managed to pull off the stolen magichange item bug, but it didn't work out. I somehow got it set back to 0. I think I might've put it in the warehouse and that reset it?Edit: Having them in any state except equipped resets 'em if you leave them in there between missions or something Any Magichange weapon you steal probably has a rarity of 0 and if you don't care about getting innocents for some reason, you can probably go to floor 100 in the item world in it. maybe transfer innocents in w/ Mediators or the ones that boost other innocents? this kind of stupid stuff is why i still play these games Doctor Goat fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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They showed a couple D5 villains off. Disgaea 5: now featuring Vergil from the Devil May Cry series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FGK1rwEQGA Were those 2 headed dragons a thing in past titles?
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I have 3 Dark Rosaries with 8 level 300 statisticians and multiple stolen level 5000~ Magichange weapons and I just started raspberyl mode. Bless you, Puppy Paw Stick. And then I got a rarity 4 trapezohedron from Master Bigstar. 
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Last night I bought Disgaea D2 from the PSN and holy poo poo I am enjoying this game way more than I expected. I was expecting a low-budget entry but this actually feels really really well polished so far. There are tons of great little things all over the place, and very few changes I dislike, and I love all of the music so far. I'm never gonna get tired of having a dedicated button for somersaulting around the Overlord's Castle and having a double jump.  Does stealing Magichanging weapons still work in the Vita version? How does it work, just PPS usage?
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Get it from Puppy Paw and make sure it's equipped as much as possible. If the game notices it's in the item bag/warehouse, it'll set all its stats to 0. It's okay to equip it to other people, just don't leave it out.
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There's a new Japanese trailer for Disgaea 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X673h_MOXwk I'm not sure I get most of it but the characters going super saiyan seems neat. The scale doesn't seem all that different though? Also here's an article about a couple new classes.
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team special attacks. FINALLY. You would think they would have added combination attacks sooner with all the long standing pairings in the series/classes with synergy
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I saw the ability to fully customize the colors of your characters, and some kind of odd board-game like thing...stop making me want a PS4 NISA!
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Okay, so it looks like that yellow prinny from a while back isn't just a dress after all, but a permanent mount for that girl. Hunter Noventa posted:I saw the ability to fully customize the colors of your characters, and some kind of odd board-game like thing...stop making me want a PS4 NISA!
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maou shoujo posted:Last night I bought Disgaea D2 from the PSN and holy poo poo I am enjoying this game way more than I expected. I was expecting a low-budget entry but this actually feels really really well polished so far. There are tons of great little things all over the place, and very few changes I dislike, and I love all of the music so far. I'm never gonna get tired of having a dedicated button for somersaulting around the Overlord's Castle and having a double jump. Disgaea D2 is great mechanically and I was really excited for it when it came out but for some reason I drifted away from it faster than any other game in the series. I honestly don't even think I could explain why it didn't click for me. I'm not sure if I even finished the main story e: Now that I think about it, I don't even remember what the story was besides 'more laharl doing laharl stuff'. Also my memory of 3 is pretty much just 'hot sauce and eggs came up a lot I think', so maybe my memory is just poo poo Good Citizen fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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I believe the storyline was LET'S MAKE ETNA RELEVANT AGAIN OOOOH SHE'S GOT A SUPER DEMON BLOODLINE AND AN EVIL BROTHER. Also some shenanigans about being overlord,etc etc...
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Hunter Noventa posted:I saw the ability to fully customize the colors of your characters, and some kind of odd board-game like thing...stop making me want a PS4 NISA! If you have the money a PS4 is a pretty solid console and pretty affordable. If you don't have the disposable income wait until you can get some used on the cheap in another year or two. The games will still be there waiting for you.
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