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As a parent of small children, it bugged me that they left Sprog alone as much as they did. I mean presumably they had someone looking after him during that scene where Max's wife goes to the beach or when she and Max go picnicking, but the first time I saw Sprog he was playing with an unloaded handgun and I'm like 
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fatherboxx posted:Mutant guitarists seen on the PA truck with flames coming out the guitars. This is some loving GWAR poo poo 
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Mad Max was supposed to be fairly futuristic at first draft, the MFP were going to have flying cars and such, but the budget didn't allow for it in any sense. Not even actually up to date vehicles. Thank gently caress, really.
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Yeah that would have been real loving stupid honestly.
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Clipperton posted:*and possibly leather daddies Possibly. 
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Lotish posted:As a parent of small children, it bugged me that they left Sprog alone as much as they did. I mean presumably they had someone looking after him during that scene where Max's wife goes to the beach or when she and Max go picnicking, but the first time I saw Sprog he was playing with an unloaded handgun and I'm like How do you know it was unloaded?
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Yodzilla posted:My favorite scene is where Max's wife has to walk five miles down a mountain to get to the beach. It... it's not? 
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:It... it's not? Oh there was a lot of unrealistic poo poo in Mad Max. Like the wife walking 5 miles or whatever to the beach, good luck making that little trek without dying as a result of a deadly animal attack from a crocodile or a poisonous snake or a dingo.
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Or some kind of deadly venomous spider. Or a drop bear.
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Gargamel Gibson posted:How do you know it was unloaded? Wishful thinking, I guess.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Or some kind of deadly venomous spider. Or a drop bear. I like how there's a non-zero chance that you could get killed by this loving thing: 
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Rasczak posted:I like how there's a non-zero chance that you could get killed by this loving thing: There's like, one recorded cassowary on human death.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:There's like, one recorded cassowary on human death. They're really good at hiding the bodies
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Clipperton posted:They're really good at hiding the bodies For all we know they could be eating the bodies, fuckin' Australia man.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:There's like, one recorded cassowary on human death. Sounds like a non-zero chance to me. They would make good kickboxers at least.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Or some kind of deadly venomous spider. Or a drop bear. Okay, if no Australians are coming to the aid of this one. The reason the movie had her take a long walk to the beach was because May Swaisey's house location set was nowhere near the coast. As far as danger goes, it would be on the Victorian coast, so most of our famous killer fauna wouldn't be present as they almost all live to the north of Victoria barring a number of particularly venomous snakes (that may or may not be active in the area and/or can be easily avoided) and maybe the odd Redback spider (Which don't kill, anyway) so, I wouldn't worry yourselves too much, kids.
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Beyond Thunderdome is a pretty.. well bad movie, in my opinion, for the most part even if it does have some interesting aspects. However one thing I found interesting about what it "lacks" is an identifiable vehicle for Max. The interceptor is as much a character in the first two movies as Max is. It represents his inhumanity to a degree but also his strength as well. By leaving out this fundamental aspect of the character I really thought Thunderdome dropped the ball somewhat. Max either needs one of two things, "something to die for" as in vengance or slowly dying in the desert as he goes from fuel source to fuel source or "something to live" for such as the oil settlement people.. Its not just about how cool the interceptor is, its like Han Solo without the Falcon.. it represents too much of the character to really be done away with completely.
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I just wish he had still had a dog. The car didn't bother me as much - he can manage behind any wheel.
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I love Thunderdome, but it still has the penultimate "physics?!" scene in cinema where Max riding through the desert very fast, a flying plane overtakes his vehicle, hitting him in the back of the head, yet he not only lives but just gets up and starts running. He must have the hardest head in the wasteland.
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Neo Rasa posted:I love Thunderdome, but it still has the penultimate "physics?!" scene in cinema where Max riding through the desert very fast, a flying plane overtakes his vehicle, hitting him in the back of the head, yet he not only lives but just gets up and starts running. He must have the hardest head in the wasteland. The plane doesn't hit him, Bruce Spence shoots a weighted dart (at his chest) that knocks him off the wagon. Immersion: saved! Clipperton fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Aug 22, 2014 |
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It's funny how I've never seen a Mad Max movie until last night. It just seemed like one of those movies that I should have seen a long time ago, along with me enjoying post-apocalyptic stuff, but never got around to it. What I liked about the first film (The Road Warrior is tonight) is the world still hasn't ended yet. You rarely see a film where the world is just starting to go to poo poo, there is still some semblence of order left, but you know it won't be long before poo poo goes south. I can't wait for the sequels because I imagine with their larger budgets more crazy stuff is bound to happen.
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Lotish posted:So I've only ever seen the original Mad Max films in bits and pieces before, but they put the original Mad Max on Netflix a few days ago. So I finally sat down and watched it from start to finish. It was not really the movie I was expecting, being much more familiar with the icon Mad Max has become and the perception of the films after the fact. It's... much more amateurish. Characters seem to be introduced and get dropped just kind of at random. Like the giant idiot. He's there to give Jodie (was that her name?) a jump scare and then follow after Max in a pointless scene and then gone. The cops all disappear from the second half of the film. It also has some weird effects and moments that would have seemed right at home on some MST3K fodder, like when Max looks under Goose's sheet. I was also expecting something more visceral, for Max's victories to be more explicit--half the time it seems he kills people almost by complete accident, and I didn't feel tension for Max until really the very end. I can't really add much that hasn't already been said more succinctly by other posters, but I do want to address one thing: the idea of characters popping up and disappearing. I feel like that was intentionally there to reflect Max's withdrawal from humanity. After Goose dies, he withdraws from the police force, leaving behind Charlie, Sarse, Fifi and the rest. They're neither heard from again nor mentioned. As well, his leaving the police force also takes him away from the justice system in general, so the lawyers are characters that wouldn't have cause to appear again either. There's the one highway patrol man Max and Jesse talk to after Cundalini loses his hand, but that's really a one off. Max doesn't rejoin the MFP. After he loses Jesse and Sprog, he withdraws from the people, who I can only guess, are his extended family, May Swaisey and Benno. I wonder if they are an aunt of Max or maybe Jesse? Regardless, just as when Max withdraws from his job, when he withdraws from his family, they are never seen again. At that point, he has fully extracted himself from society--and remember, Max is a man who is already feeling himself slipping away, becoming another speed junkie on the highway. At this point, all that's left is Max, the Interceptor, and the Toecutter's gang, and that's how it is until the credits roll. Furthermore, I just want to point out how I find it interesting that George Miller includes so many injured, ill, or disabled people in his films. I mean, obviously he's a doctor, so it's probably partially influenced by that. Let's not forget that the car accident scene where Fifi tells Max that the Toecutter's gang have a hit out on him--it was accidents like that which partly inspired Miller to make this film. But I'm getting off topic--aside from the idiot, Benno, we see that May is also in leg braces, and then there's the MFP mechanic with the stutter. There are other people who receive injuries throughout, such as Goose and Max both receiving leg injuries, but these people aren't officers at war with biker gangs. Their disabilities are already there. And I wonder if this is a purposeful reflection of the world these people live in. Just as society is beginning to collapse and fail, so are the people, mind and body. This continues throughout the series:
It's definitely a background thing, but its constant presence makes me thing George is purposely adding it in. Heck, in Mad Max 4 Immortan Joe is missing the lower half of his jaw and appears to be in charge of a group of people known as The Citadel, which seems to be a place where the injured and disabled of the wasteland are abandoned.
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EDIT: crap, double-post. Uh...Justin Godscock posted:It's funny how I've never seen a Mad Max movie until last night. It just seemed like one of those movies that I should have seen a long time ago, along with me enjoying post-apocalyptic stuff, but never got around to it. Let us know what you think. I, for one, love hearing people's opinions who are just seeing the films for the first time.
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Blind Sally posted:It's definitely a background thing, but its constant presence makes me thing George is purposely adding it in. Heck, in Mad Max 4 Immortan Joe is missing the lower half of his jaw and appears to be in charge of a group of people known as The Citadel, which seems to be a place where the injured and disabled of the wasteland are abandoned. From what I can gather, it isn't like that, The Citadel is the opposite, there are scores of ejected people and those deemed impure because of deformities and such who scavenge around the outside and it's sewer to survive. They still somewhat revere Immortan Joe who occasionally offers them water from his vast collection, but seemingly only to keep them on his side. It seems like a very rich/poor thing going on. Or even political satire.
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"George Miller was a doctor" chat: Max's jacket is missing a sleeve in Mad Max 2. His arm gets broken in the first film, and the sleeve is presumably cut off by paramedics when he goes to a hospital. Max receives an eye injury in the second film and his eyes are heterochromatic in the next one. Cool little details.
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Justin Godscock posted:It's funny how I've never seen a Mad Max movie until last night. It just seemed like one of those movies that I should have seen a long time ago, along with me enjoying post-apocalyptic stuff, but never got around to it. I like this too because as others have said, it seems like the most realistic "apocalypse" to me would be this gradual descent of society breaking down. The characters disappearing is part of this too as we see Max's own world fall apart around him, we see Max go through the societal decay that would potentially create a Lord Humongous or a Night Rider. We see Max on the brink of this at the beginning of Road Warrior. Gargamel Gibson posted:"George Miller was a doctor" chat: Don't forget his kneecap getting shot in Mad Max and his having that metal brace at the beginning of Road Warrior. 
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I just realized that the dude in the original Mad Max poster isn't even Max. It's Goose!
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:There's like, one recorded cassowary on human death. Yeah, but they don't lack in capability.
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Justin Godscock posted:It's funny how I've never seen a Mad Max movie until last night. It just seemed like one of those movies that I should have seen a long time ago, along with me enjoying post-apocalyptic stuff, but never got around to it. Oh you are going to looooove Mad Max 2. I cant bring myself to call it Road Warrior, for some reason it just doesnt feel right at all. Its always been Mad Max 2 to me 
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Blind Sally posted:Furthermore, I just want to point out how I find it interesting that George Miller includes so many injured, ill, or disabled people in his films. I mean, obviously he's a doctor, so it's probably partially influenced by that. Let's not forget that the car accident scene where Fifi tells Max that the Toecutter's gang have a hit out on him--it was accidents like that which partly inspired Miller to make this film. But I'm getting off topic--aside from the idiot, Benno, we see that May is also in leg braces, and then there's the MFP mechanic with the stutter. There are other people who receive injuries throughout, such as Goose and Max both receiving leg injuries, but these people aren't officers at war with biker gangs. Their disabilities are already there. And I wonder if this is a purposeful reflection of the world these people live in. Just as society is beginning to collapse and fail, so are the people, mind and body. This continues throughout the series: Gargamel Gibson posted:"George Miller was a doctor" chat: These are great observations. Thanks for noting them -- I really appreciate people picking up on little details and sharing them with us.
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One subtle little detail to show the decline of the civilized world in Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome is how rare working firearms and ammunition are. I think there are only two functional firearms shown in The Road Warrior, Max's double barreled shotgun and the revolver Lord Humongous uses - which are shown to be very deliberately used only in limited circumstances as ammunition is so rare (and prone to malfunction due to age). There were a few more in Thunderdome, which would make sense since Max is running a caravan and the rest are at a bustling trade city, but off the top of my head I still only remember seeing a couple actually used (Ironbar toting an assault rifle in the refinery and the lost kids using the old bolt-action as a totem). It really amps up the menace of the Bullet Farmers, since nearly everyone else has been reduced to melee weapons and simple crossbows. A force with a large stockpile of pre-apocalypse weaponry could cause some serious havoc when they get mixed into it.
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After seeing the trailer for Fury Road again, I decided to watch Mad Max 2 again. I'm still amazed that none of the stunt actors got killed. That cartwheeling dude, seriously wtf. 
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Batham posted:After seeing the trailer for Fury Road again, I decided to watch Mad Max 2 again. I'm still amazed that none of the stunt actors got killed. That cartwheeling dude, seriously wtf. IIRC he was one of the few bad injuries though, the mechanism malfunctioned and he flew way farther than was intended. I watched Hard Boiled again recently and that one also impressed me because of how often people are right next to explosions and open fires. Incredible editing in both movies.
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That reminds me of this one particular scene in The Thing where Kurt Russel tosses a grenade. He didn't toss it far enough, so you actually see him jump backwards in a bit of a panic. IIRC, he mentions it during the bonus commentary on the DVD.
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Blind Sally posted:That reminds me of this one particular scene in The Thing where Kurt Russel tosses a grenade. He didn't toss it far enough, so you actually see him jump backwards in a bit of a panic. IIRC, he mentions it during the bonus commentary on the DVD. The commentary track for The Thing is pretty amazing, it's just Kurt Russell and John Carpenter getting drunk and rambling for 90 minutes.
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Neo Rasa posted:I watched Hard Boiled again recently and that one also impressed me because of how often people are right next to explosions and open fires. Incredible editing in both movies. John Woo is not an OSHA-compliant director. Most of the action scenes in The Killer were filmed with loving live ammo because the production couldn't afford blanks.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:John Woo is not an OSHA-compliant director. Most of the action scenes in The Killer were filmed with loving live ammo because the production couldn't afford blanks. I think you might be confusing the Killer with Meet the Feebles.
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Great Rumbler posted:The commentary track for The Thing is pretty amazing, it's just Kurt Russell and John Carpenter getting drunk and rambling for 90 minutes. Big Trouble in Little China has a great one that’s basically the same thing too.
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Gargamel Gibson posted:I think you might be confusing the Killer with Meet the Feebles. Nah, I distinctly remember reading an anecdote about that. I wanna say it caused some problems when they were filming an action scene because they didn't have a filming permit and someone called the police, but I could be wrong.
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