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So So guys I went on to the local gun shop on a whim (while on a trip to the best local alcohol shop) and I asked if they had they had Single Six in stock. They did not. They had some really awesome Basque-spelled Spanish pistol I touched for a while but I wasn't confident the firing pin worked and it was $200 for a gun from ~1910. Anyway I looked up and saw they had a H&K MP5 in .22LR for $650. I remember hearing something about "the wait for handguns is still over 5 weeks but longguns are out the door in minutes," I blacked out, and woke up in my car in front of the liquor store with my wallet in pain.  WELCOME TO MY BAD BROWN BED BOX  OH DON'T MIND IF I DO  Comparison next to an airsoft recreation. CAN YOU EVEN TELL THE DIFFERENCE?  The rest of the stuff in the box  Danke, Herr 19! April 6th is a "come shoot poo poo at my farm" day with my friend and at this point, I'm bringing a loving armory of guns. I can't wait. Hey everyone stop being mean to me for my poor choice
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quote:Comparison next to an airsoft recreation. CAN YOU EVEN TELL THE DIFFERENCE? No. 
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Saint Darwin posted:Hey everyone stop being mean to me for my poor choice
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Although to be fair aren't the newer H&K branded GSG MP5s like this supposed to be less lovely than the older ones?
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darnon posted:Although to be fair aren't the newer H&K branded GSG MP5s like this supposed to be less lovely than the older ones? Let's really hope so. I shoot this thing on 4/6 so I will have a trip report the next day or possibly that night if I am thoroughly pissed/thrilled/pissed (the British meaning) I mean they have at least 19 Kontrolles so let's hope
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Looks pretty sweet. Glad you didn't end up waiting for two handguns to clear. Weren't you at the NRA range sometime last year with a couple other goons? We should do that again sometime.
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ought ten posted:Looks pretty sweet. Glad you didn't end up waiting for two handguns to clear. Weren't you at the NRA range sometime last year with a couple other goons? We should do that again sometime. Yeh, it was you, me, and Tubgirl. I will totally bring this armory down sometime!
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I know a few guys with these and they run good and they are in love with them. I have shot them a few times and they seem pretty cool. You will get some hate but who cares as long as you like it and it works good!
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Saint Darwin posted:Yeh, it was you, me, and Tubgirl. Tubgirl, of course. How could I forget?
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Pretty sure they're still made by GSG or some other similar company, just under license. Not every gun manufacturer in Germany makes good guns.
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I've been wanting one of these only with the normal handguards and faux supressor for a while nowCyrano4747 posted:Pretty sure they're still made by GSG or some other similar company, just under license. Not every gun manufacturer in Germany makes good guns. These are made by Walther. *edit* it says so right on the loving box. Basticle fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2013 around 00:33 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Pretty sure they're still made by GSG or some other similar company, just under license. Not every gun manufacturer in Germany makes good guns. Lies! All german guns are perfection! 
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Cyrano4747 posted:Pretty sure they're still made by GSG or some other similar company, just under license. Given the Walther branding, probably Umarex.
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Basticle posted:I've been wanting one of these only with the normal handguards and faux supressor for a while now Honestly I'd missed that. Even so Walther and Umarex are way in bed with each other, so i'm uncertain who is making what over there. I'm reading that Walther (whatever that means in this context) supposedly made the licensed Colt M4 and M16 .22LR knockoffs that Umarex was selling a few years back, and seeing more than a few people who aren't exactly fans of those, either. Either way, making GBS threads on a box thread is poor form so I'll just shut up about it now. I sincerely hope it's a well made, quality firearm at a good price that will give years of retardedly fun plinking. I would be very interested in seeing the take down and how it all goes together on the inside.
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Basticle posted:These are made by Walther. Hmm. Maybe I'm confusing my manufacturers. Although the Walther P22 has had some controversy about it possibly being made by Umarex which is an airgun/airsoft company out of potmetal.
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You are a braver man then I Saint Darwin. I can never own something like that because all it does is make the desire for the real thing build and build. If I owned something like that it would force me to move to Oregon and sell a kidney or two to fund an actual full auto Mp5
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Can't you get a .22lr upper for way less than that or something?
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Sixgun Strumpet posted:I can never own something like that because all it does is make the desire for the real thing build and build. If I owned something like that it would force me to move to Oregon and sell a kidney or two to fund an actual full auto Mp5 You'd probably find someone selling a real pre-GCA imported MP5 for $2k or something ridiculous like that.
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Wasn't there someone on here who had started documenting kit building an MP5? Even then the parts are ridiculous expensive.
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Sperglord Actual posted:Given the Walther branding, probably Umarex. Umarex is the importer, Walther is the manufacturer.
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Saint Darwin posted:Let's really hope so. I shoot this thing on 4/6 so I will have a trip report the next day or possibly that night if I am thoroughly pissed/thrilled/pissed (the British meaning) Pvt. Public has one and the quality seems decent. You'd have to defer to him for a full report, but I didn't have any trouble with it the few times I shot it. It was fun as hell.
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E2M2 posted:Can't you get a .22lr upper for way less than that or something? Maybe, but then he wouldn't have an MP5.
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Is it possible to chop that fake suppressor off and put on a real one assuming of course your tax stamp is paid or is it built in such a way as to be a huge pain in the rear end/impossible? Because a suppressed .22 MP5 semi-auto might sooth my aching loins for a real one. Or perhaps make it worse. I don't know. Mmmm pipe dreams.
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Cyrano4747 posted:I sincerely hope it's a well made, quality firearm at a good price that will give years of retardedly fun plinking. I would be very interested in seeing the take down and how it all goes together on the inside. I'll try to get at least a basic breakdown when I have to clean it. Totally TWISTED posted:Is it possible to chop that fake suppressor off and put on a real one assuming of course your tax stamp is paid or is it built in such a way as to be a huge pain in the rear end/impossible? Probably not. It's one solid piece of metal from what I can tell. Part of the reason I didn't hesitate is because it's not GSG/ATI in any way as far as I can tell. Of course there may have been wacky licensing and distribution Schelling happening but I can't tell, it's very solid and doesn't feel cheap at all. I'm getting itchy to try it and I might, might see if I can sneak to the range. Saint Darwin fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2013 around 01:48 |
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Totally TWISTED posted:Is it possible to chop that fake suppressor off and put on a real one assuming of course your tax stamp is paid or is it built in such a way as to be a huge pain in the rear end/impossible? I dont know about the MP5 SD one but the A5 model can be as the faux supressor acts as just a shroud over the legal-length barrel.
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Have fun and good luck!
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*sniiiiiif* Ahhhhh, that's a classic box thread right there. Haters gonna hate, but I still have an unnatural desire for a MP5. Sure it's a cheap, stamped steel, roller delayed, half-polymer design from 1960, but it's still badass. Picking one of these up is probably the closest I'll get to one. Follow up with a range report if you don't mind. Edit: what are the options if you want an actual/civvy clone of the MP5? DkHelmet fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2013 around 15:31 |
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infrared35 posted:Pvt. Public has one and the quality seems decent. You'd have to defer to him for a full report, but I didn't have any trouble with it the few times I shot it. It was fun as hell. I can confirm that his is indeed fun as all get-out. Im on the fence about getting one of these myself. I need to fill me .22lr void.
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OWLS! had a Sig Mosquito and, despite all the pot-metal and terrible DA, it was fun on a bun. And then he strapped a lovely Wal-Mart airsoft laser to it and it was even more ridiculous fun. Pot metal rimfires of poor decisions are awesome when you realize you give no fucks and bang them around at the range.
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DkHelmet posted:Edit: what are the options if you want an actual/civvy clone of the MP5? If you want an actual factory MP5, you're pretty much SOL. You either have to become an FFL/SOT and get a pre- or post-sample, or find one of the very few transferable factory MP5's that were imported pre-1968. If you're OK with an HK94 that was imported as a semi-auto but later converted to full-auto (and functionally identical to a factory MP5) then your options open up. All you need is $20k+. If you're OK with only semi-auto, but still want an actual HK, then you just need $4k+ for a semi-auto HK94. If you're OK with only semi-auto and don't care if it's an actual HK, then you just need $2k+ for an HK94 clone. The more German parts used in the construction, the more it'll cost you.
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Craptacular posted:If you're OK with an HK94 that was imported as a semi-auto but later converted to full-auto (and functionally identical to a factory MP5) then your options open up. All you need is $20k+. 
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sky shark posted:I'll sell mine for $19.5k Have you checked prices lately? Most of the ads for MP5's that I found in a cursory check were well above that. There's been a nice price jump for a lot of transferables in the past 6 months or so.
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Craptacular posted:
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Used to be around $1200-$1400. The days of sub-$2000 Mp5 clones are probably over, at least for the next few years. Coharie Arms was the biggest and probably best maker, but they're still a small time shop and they're retooling for an HK416 clone. There's MKE, who are Turkish but they're HK-licensed and use HK tooling. I haven't heard anything bad about them. You've got Bobcat/SWS and a few other small makers like Bellator, but the quality is hit or miss. Avoid Vulcans. Vectors are stupid overpriced, even pre-panic. And you've got some straight blowback knockoffs like VR9s, avoid those. If you've got access to the right tools and have the skill, you could probably assemble one yourself- but it's not for the faint of heart.
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So what can I spray in this thing to hopefully prevent any problems?
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Pam for baking. The flour will act like graphite powder 
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Saint Darwin posted:So what can I spray in this thing to hopefully prevent any problems? My go-to lubricant for just spraying the gently caress all over things these days is PB Blaster, but that can eat cheaper plastics. CLP should be good to go with anything.
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Cyrano4747 posted:My go-to lubricant for just spraying the gently caress all over things these days is PB Blaster, but that can eat cheaper plastics. CLP should be good to go with anything. So, Step 1 http://www.amazon.com/Break-Free-Cl...-1&keywords=clp Step 2 Empty onto every moving surface I can get to Step 3 May not bad up
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Break it down and post pics, I wanna see how much of that is gun and how much is hilarious plastic shell around a blowback half its size Assuming it actually functions this thing looks like good clean retarded fun.
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:Break it down and post pics, I wanna see how much of that is gun and how much is hilarious plastic shell around a blowback half its size Seconding. I'm not anywhere near rich enough to have an MP5 so this thing definitely interests me. There's one at the local Dunham's, but I'm not even going to bother going down there to ask to see it, too many dumb policies about triggerlocks and poo poo.
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:Break it down and post pics, I wanna see how much of that is gun and how much is hilarious plastic shell around a blowback half its size I don't want to break it down until I get to fire it because I am scared I won't be able to put it together properly 
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