Crystals 4 Life: Junctioning chocobos 4 diabetes research (Mar. 15-19)

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iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

http://www.crystalsforlife.ca/

Crystals For Life (C4L) is a Final Fantasy speedrunning event put on by the FF runners from Speed Demos Archive to help raise money for the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation (JDRF), starting tonight and running through Tuesday. If you're one to regularly follow speedruns or maybe even have come from our very own speedrunning thread, you'll recognize a couple of the games and runners from previous SDA events. If you're new to this whole thing, you're in for a treat.

All these runners have put in a lot of time and devotion to figuring out how to take one of the most famous RPG series of all time, which consumed many a childhood, and condensing full playthroughs into bite-size chunks. Furthermore, they're really great at explaining all the little tricks and techniques that go into making the time fly by. Lastly, this marathon isn't limited to just the numbered series. Plenty of spinoffs will be included like Dissidia, Mystic Quest and the Legend (SaGa) games.

So sit down, pop a cold tonic, and watch airships go where no airship has gone before!

Here's the current schedule. Times are in CST since that's where I'm viewing it from, but if you bring it up from the C4L page it'll set to wherever you're located.

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Start Time 	Game 					Runners 	Commentary 	         	Run Time
Friday
7:00:00 PM	Final Fantasy IV			Obdajr		puwexil, Nitrodon		04:30:00
11:35:00 PM	Final Fantasy XIII			Zoning		Brettatron	       		07:00:00

Saturday
6:40:00 AM	Final Fantasy Anniversary Edition	Lag.Com		Mercury.Com, MetaSigma		02:40:00
9:25:00 AM	Dissidia (or 012) Final Fantasy		rinimt		  				01:00:00
10:30:00 AM	Final Fantasy IV Interlude		Essentia					00:45:00
11:20:00 AM	Final Fantasy VII			puwexil		Lag.Com, Mercury.Com		10:00:00
9:25:00 PM	Final Fantasy VIII			FFGamer86	Poxnor, Nitrodon		11:30:00

Sunday
9:00:00 AM	Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII		rinimt						07:00:00
4:05:00 PM	Final Fantasy V				puwexil		Lag.Com, Mercury.Com		06:00:00
10:10:00 PM	Final Fantasy XII			Nitrodon, AlecK47				09:00:00

Monday
7:15:00 AM	Final Fantasy Legend III		Poxnor		MetaSigma, puwexil		02:45:00
10:05:00 AM	The Final Fantasy Legend		MetaSigma	Poxnor				00:25:00
10:35:00 AM	Final Fantasy IX			puwexil		rinimt, Alko, Lag.Com, Obdajr	10:30:00
9:10:00 PM	Final Fantasy Mystic Quest		FFGamer86	Driscollad			03:30:00

Tuesday
12:45:00 AM	Final Fantasy X				Nitrodon	Essentia, AlecK47, FFGamer86	11:45:00
12:35:00 PM	Final Fantasy VI			Essentia	Poxnor, rinimt, Nitrodon	06:45:00

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# ? May 23, 2013 09:22

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

In addition to donating to help children, you can also donate for FABULOUS PRIZES! A full list of all the prizes in the marathon can be found here, but below is a small sample of some of the more interesting ones. Keep in mind that for most of the prizes (with exception to the grand prize), you need to donate while the game associated with said prize is being played.

SUPER FAMICOM GRAND PRIZE
From: Driscollad
When: Throughout the marathon
How: Donating a total of $30+
A bundle containing the complete-in-box Japanese versions of Final Fantasy IV, IV Easytype, V, VI AND Final Fantasy Mystic Quest USA along with a complete-in-box Super Famicom!

FFIV Characters (button set)
From: khiro
When: Final Fantasy IV
How: Making a single donation of $5+
Image: (link)

Final Fantasy XIII-2 (360; Best Buy Exclusive Edition), with Collector's Edition Strategy Guide
From: game - lizzie241, guide - Itsu de Mo
When: Final Fantasy XIII
How: Making a single donation of $10+

Cloud Strife Lifestream (artwork)
From: Mikalia
When: Final Fantasy VII
How: Making a single donation of $5+
Image: (link to DeviantArt page)

25th Anniversary Chocobo (plushie)
From: Driscollad
When: Final Fantasy XII
How: Making a single donation of $5+
Image: (link)

Hydra (perler)
From: Grystor
When: Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
How: Making a single donation of $5+
Image: (link)

Distant Worlds II: More Music from Final Fantasy (CD)
From: FenixDown
When: Final Fantasy X
How: Making a single donation of $5+

iastudent fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2013 around 01:07

# ? Mar 16, 2013 00:37

apophenium: Apr 13, 2009; A X T E
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I was pretty down on long rear end RPG speedruns until I actually watched one. They're a lot of fun! If I had to pick one run to watch this marathon, I would say puwexil's FFV run. Hoping to catch some of the runs I've never seen before, though.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 00:42

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

Added prize info to the second post.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 01:06

jabro: Mar 25, 2003; Can't post for 32 hours!

Thanks, between this and double XP SWTOR my weekend is shot. Will definitely be donating during the FFVI run.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 01:32

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

Tellah breaking all the rules now. He just Meteo'd one of the Baron Castle bosses.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 01:54

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when people are summoning you all over the place to "be their friend".

iastudent posted:

Tellah breaking all the rules now. He just Meteo'd one of the Baron Castle bosses.

Wow, that absolutely ruined the Magus Sisters.

How'd they pull that off? I was not tuned in for that.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 02:12

Chef De Cuisinart: Oct 31, 2010

The audio on the C4L website is super quiet for me, does anyone else notice that? Going directly to Puwexil's stream works fine though.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 02:56

Shadow Ninja 64: May 21, 2007; "I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."

Chef De Cuisinart posted:

The audio on the C4L website is super quiet for me, does anyone else notice that? Going directly to Puwexil's stream works fine though.

I haven't noticed that problem, but I've been having all kinds of issues with Twitch in general today (oddly mis-sized stream window, clicking on the Viewer List button instead refreshing the page, not being able to revert from the new layout to the old at all, etc.), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that that's just another manifestation.

As far as interesting runs to look at for this marathon, FF5 has already been mentioned as a solid choice. In addition, FFL3 is spectacularly broken, as is FFL1, and Mystic Quest is a fun watch as well.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 03:09

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

There's a hugeass MLG tourney being streamed on Twitch this weekend as well, so expect that to potentially cause issues for some people.

As for specific runs, besides the ones mentioned, I'm curious to see Crisis Core since I couldn't bring myself to finish that game. Also, and not to promise anything, but Metasigma was talking about doing a WR attempt on Secret of Evermore at some point during the marathon, which by now has turned into an equality if not more broken game than the FF games. Not sure if that's still a possibility or not.

iastudent fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2013 around 03:15

# ? Mar 16, 2013 03:12

Shadow Ninja 64: May 21, 2007; "I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."

I think SoE was discussed as being a bonus stream game post-marathon, among others.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 03:29

iPodschun: Dec 29, 2004; Sherlock House

Hooray D. Machine grinding

Kyrosiris posted:

How'd they pull that off? I was not tuned in for that.

There's a way to underflow (I think that's the right term) a character's MP which gives them 65k MP. It's something with trying to cast a big Cure spell with low MP outside of battle while scrolling through the spell list. That character can't cast spells outside of battle anymore, though. Tellah normally has 90 or 95 MP at that point so he can't normally use Meteo (99 MP).

For those interested in watching FF4 being run outside of the marathon, Obda's stream is http://www.twitch.tv/obdajr/new
If you want to see the game broken like crazy, Brossentia does runs where he uses a bunch of different glitches http://www.twitch.tv/brossentia/new

edit: \/ Here's Obda's explanation http://www.twitch.tv/obdajr/c/1867122

iPodschun fucked around with this message at Mar 16, 2013 around 04:06

# ? Mar 16, 2013 04:01

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when people are summoning you all over the place to "be their friend".

iPodschun posted:

There's a way to underflow (I think that's the right term) a character's MP which gives them 65k MP. It's something with trying to cast a big Cure spell with low MP outside of battle while scrolling through the spell list. That character can't cast spells outside of battle anymore, though. Tellah normally has 90 or 95 MP at that point so he can't normally use Meteo (99 MP).

Ah, okay. How does the underflow glitch work?

# ? Mar 16, 2013 04:03

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

And that's FF4 done in 4:29:55, 5 seconds under estimate! A couple game-overs early on unfortunately but not really much that could be done about those.

For the graveyard shift, XIII is starting now.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 04:44

stoutfish: Oct 8, 2012; Life is but a dream
Swimming Beneath the Azure Sea

And then everyone leaves when XIII starts.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 04:47

C-Euro: Mar 20, 2010; Actually, Lucy, my trouble is football. I just don't understand it. Instead of feeling happy, I feel sort of let down.

Go Lions.

I was just talking to someone about how it would be possible to race/speedrun a jRPG, I guess I'll have my answer.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 04:49

cat doter: Jul 27, 2006; Teenage Mutant Ninja Cripple

A speed run of FF13? It's like my worst nightmare come true.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 04:52

Happy Blue Cow: Oct 23, 2008; I have moooore respect for
Mr. Carpainter then others. Even if I become someone's steak dinner, I'll still respect him.

So I missed the most of the earlier parts of the FF1 run, but could anyone explain why his team was so strong?

He kept the Thief dead the entire game, ran from most of the random battles, was killing bosses in 1 round of attacks, and his Monk and White Mage were hitting super hard, while using Swords.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 13:36

Kliff: Feb 6, 2009; Forgotten by everyone? Kanako's fault.

From the way I understand it, there's a glitch that tricks the game into thinking your party has all that insane endgame stuff that's only on the Anniversary Edition. Something about using a hammer on a piece of armor and that's all the info I managed to get.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 13:42

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

Looks like I'm awake just in time for Dissidia. I've been wondering what goes into running this.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 14:04

Cocksmith: Dec 28, 2012

Happy Blue Cow posted:

So I missed the most of the earlier parts of the FF1 run, but could anyone explain why his team was so strong?

He kept the Thief dead the entire game, ran from most of the random battles, was killing bosses in 1 round of attacks, and his Monk and White Mage were hitting super hard, while using Swords.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/...s#Equipping_Bug

# ? Mar 16, 2013 14:37

Tsurupettan: Mar 26, 2011; My many CoX, always poised, always ready, always willing to thrust.

Oh god how did I miss this thread yesterday. Or maybe it's good I did, I would've probably put my rear end into a chair and watched all of FF4. Like the prior SDA events, these will be up for watching after the fact, I assume? I want to catch Mystic Quest really bad since I played it so much as a kid but it's just too late.

At least The Final Fantasy Legend is early (and surprisingly short).

# ? Mar 16, 2013 14:58

apophenium: Apr 13, 2009; A X T E
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Tsurupettan posted:

Oh god how did I miss this thread yesterday. Or maybe it's good I did, I would've probably put my rear end into a chair and watched all of FF4. Like the prior SDA events, these will be up for watching after the fact, I assume? I want to catch Mystic Quest really bad since I played it so much as a kid but it's just too late. At least The Final Fantasy Legend is early (and surprisingly short).

Yeah the videos should be up after the fact. The Mystic Quest and FFL3 runs are really cool, from what I've seen.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 15:23

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

With Interlude now out of the way, we're moving onto the real meat of today with the arguably most and least popular FFs back-to-back. If you watched FF7 at AGDQ a couple months ago, you'll probably be familiar with all this. If not, here's what to expect.

-Ridicious renamings
-Puwexil ripping apart the game's plot (and programming) logic at every chance
-Tifa punching anything and everything with the fist of an angry god(dess)
-PALMER DANCE

# ? Mar 16, 2013 15:40

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

It's Palmer Dance Time, if you aren't in here there's something wrong with you!

# ? Mar 16, 2013 20:27

UraniumAnchor: May 21, 2006; Not a walrus.

quote:

<rydia_sumoner_derek> i m srry but if i had diabetes and i see them try to rayse money and eating stuf i cant eat i would be pist so i think they should stop eating candy and chi[s and soda on screen ok this is bad

Never change, twitch chat.

Also, for those of you who missed MetaSigma's Palmer dance.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 23:13

Chef De Cuisinart: Oct 31, 2010

UraniumAnchor posted:

Never change, twitch chat.

Also, for those of you who missed MetaSigma's Palmer dance.

That derek guy was trolling last night during FF4 as Derek_highwind going on about how "Kane" was the best character and how he was supposed to end up with Rosa, not Cecil, and that Square only did that for the U.S. version.

He's either the greatest troll, or a 7 year old.

# ? Mar 16, 2013 23:43

Neutral Zone Trap: Nov 6, 2011; It's in the garbage. Where it belongs.

I can't believe the French stream has over 1000 viewers while the main one's at 2500. It's obviously a good thing but I'm curious to know where they found all those people.

# ? Mar 17, 2013 00:20

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

They've reached $10,000 in donations!

# ? Mar 17, 2013 00:45

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

As FF7 winds down now, just wanted to say that FF8 will be well worth the watch, regardless of your feelings towards it in particular. It's a game with a reputation for having quite a few ridiculous moments to it, and the runners are well aware of that fact if you've been keeping up with the donation incentives towards it. Poxnor, who ran the game at SGDQ last year, will be on hand for commentary so expect him to break down the game in a very entertaining manner.

Also this is maybe just speaking personal experience, but FF8 is one of the first games I remember hearing about as a kid about people breaking the poo poo out of by exploiting the junction system. Prepare to see that cranked up to 11, and then some.

If nothing else, just wait until they start playing Triple Triad. Hint: donate for Rude Siri

# ? Mar 17, 2013 01:15

Neutral Zone Trap: Nov 6, 2011; It's in the garbage. Where it belongs.

FF8 is now underway, seven minutes in. Catch the full run!

# ? Mar 17, 2013 02:24

Shadow Ninja 64: May 21, 2007; "I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."

Hahaha, Poxnor's got his rude card bot going.

# ? Mar 17, 2013 03:50

Chriswizard: May 6, 2007

This Siri Triple Triad is the best.

# ? Mar 17, 2013 03:52

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008; You walk through life not knowing who the idiots are! That gives them the element of surprise! And that's how they ruin your day!

Rude Siri was well worth the wait.

# ? Mar 17, 2013 03:53

Shadow Ninja 64: May 21, 2007; "I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."

Hahahaha, FFGamer is apparently attempting to win the Zell card blindfolded now.

Edit: And he got it!

Shadow Ninja 64 fucked around with this message at Mar 17, 2013 around 04:04

# ? Mar 17, 2013 03:58

apophenium: Apr 13, 2009; A X T E
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I may be hallucinating, but I'm pretty sure I saw a character named "BadRatsSA," so good work whoever donated for that.

# ? Mar 17, 2013 05:55

zylche: Sep 11, 2010; TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT

STEAM GOONS IRC

apophenium posted:

I may be hallucinating, but I'm pretty sure I saw a character named "BadRatsSA," so good work whoever donated for that.

You did see it, I got bored.

Final Fantasy 8 is 4 hours in, it's scheduled for 11 hours but I don't see it lasting that long.

# ? Mar 17, 2013 06:23

Aliginge: Dec 16, 2004; Ginger: The Dying Breed

As someone with Type 1 Diabetes who was diagnosed at 25, this is awesome and y'all are awesome

# ? Mar 17, 2013 12:15

jabro: Mar 25, 2003; Can't post for 32 hours!

Aliginge posted:

As someone with Type 1 Diabetes who was diagnosed at 25, this is awesome and y'all are awesome

So you're not mad they are eating foods while playing these games that people with diabetes can't normally eat?

# ? Mar 17, 2013 12:37

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# ? May 23, 2013 09:22

Aliginge: Dec 16, 2004; Ginger: The Dying Breed

Not at all. You get over the food envy thing pretty quickly when you start controlling your sugar levels with a non lovely diet and insulin injections and you discover that you can treat yourself every now and then.

# ? Mar 17, 2013 13:09

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