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Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Bobnumerotres posted:

Soiled is the worst. gently caress Volvidon. You need one specific item that was made only for that one specific status. At least let me nulberry it off.

Just wait til you get to steel uragaan.

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Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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First thing I did after hitting G rank was doing gathering quests in Tundra, getting a crapton of great stuff. Fully upgraded the insecticutters and got the rustshard greatsword, and ancientshard gunlance, hammer, and light bowgun. :woop:

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Fancy Hat! posted:

So is Rathian NEVER supposed to show up on the Moga Forecast? Because it's Jaggi's, Qurupecos and Ludroths as far as the eye can see! The Cheif's Son told me Rathian's and Lagi's are supposed to show up by now, but is there some sort of quota I have to meet to make them show up more often?

It seems pretty normal from what I hear of most people talking about their Moga forecasts. I go several quests in a row waiting for a good 5 star commodity-dropping monster. I don't care what kind of grind it'll take, I want the drat pumpkin suit.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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I just hate Steel Uragaan because he swaps out sleep for farts, and his exploding rocks are also poo poo. Sometimes the soiled effect can just completely ruin your day.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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So the earliest critical draw armor set is G Rank Diablos? I'm at work so I can't really check out my game right now and the wikis are still pretty sparse.

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Dec 28, 2008



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Carecat posted:

Awaken is only G Rank? So why are there weapons all the way down to Rarity 1 with elements that need awakening? :psyduck:

On one hand the armor skill system is neat but on the other it feels too specialised for a game with twelve different weapon sets. The optimum set for a boss is likely to be a clown suit and you must need to farm a lot of charms.

You can wear G rank armor and still use a rarity 1 weapon if you really really want to.

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Dec 28, 2008



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Bugamol posted:

Found a +5 Evade charm last night. Felt pretty great about that. What charms are most people using? I replaced a +6 speed setup two slot charm.

At one point I found a +4 attack charm and it's been the most helpful at getting me to attack up L on a lot of sets, but now I mostly use a +7 expert charm or a +6 evade charm, depending on my weapon.

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Dec 28, 2008



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BlueDestiny posted:

Piercing is generally better the bigger the monster is, and relies a bit on positioning to max out the damage. You want to shoot from head to tail or wingtip to wingtip so it does the most hits. (almost) Always aim for the head or belly, and get as close as you can because supposedly there is damage falloff. Don't bother with slicing ammo on solo hunts. You can work around maximum ammo limits by bringing materials to make some during the hunt (Great for crag and cluster ammo). If your gun can fire sleep shots always bring some barrel bombs and sleep bomb the mofo.

I'm thinking about making a bomb boost set and charming/gemming in artillery expert, so that I'll have buffed crag shot and wyvernfire, and when I do sleepbombing I'll get more damage out of it. It'll be like using Torgue guns in Borderlands 2.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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That's great. Can't wait to play with some EU Goons since I usually stay up into ridiculous hours of the night.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Great! The patch will actually hit before the 16th for North America. April 15th 5PM Pacific Standard Time.

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Dec 28, 2008



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EAThief posted:

I think I'm running into a problem. I've been using long swords but I'm trying to figure out other weapons too. The problem I'm running into is that none of the other weapons have fade slash. I NEED fade slash. An attack AND a dodge all in one? Amazing. I've put like 500 hours at least into Demon's/Dark Souls and I think I'm trying to play this game the same way and it really isn't working out. Once I get out of that mindset maybe it'll be a little easier to use other stuff.

You just can't play other weapons as greedy as you can the longsword. You'll start to figure out when doing a full combo will get you hit and when it won't. (To put this in Dark Souls terms, learn how to be less of an R1 spammer, because that just gets you smacked by a dude with high poise.) Also keep in mind that each weapon has a different kind of dodge or block to it. The sidesteps that you can do with the switch axe, lance, gunlance, light bowgun, and dual swords seem to have a bit more in the way of invincibility frames than a normal dodge. There are also the Evade and Evade Distance skills, the first of which gives more invincibility frames to the dodge of any weapon you're using.

Yes, going from longsword to other weapons makes you lose fade slash, but you gain stuff that longsword doesn't have, like blocking, more damage per single strike, KO, different reach, etc.

Speedboat Jones fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Apr 10, 2013

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Here's a little pitch for Athena's Armor Skill app for Windows: If you're not using it, why the hell not? Don't be lazy. Download it. It's fantastic. Barring an incorrect reading, it has seemingly put together an armor set for me that gives Crit Draw, Punish Draw, and Sharpness +1 using a charm I already own. :swoon: Now I need to kill a crapload of G Rank Joe, Duramboros, and Diablos. :shepface:

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Argas posted:

I'd rather be fashionable than get all the skills I want. :unsmith:

If the Deviljho wrestling belt doesn't go with everything then why am I even playing this game? :colbert:

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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When you get to the last phase of the fight it's really important that you get into a good rhythm with the gong, the binder, and the dragonator. With those three things together evenly spaced apart you should be able to stop him almost every time he's about to do his big slam on the ship.

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Dec 28, 2008



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Bobnumerotres posted:

If you're getting this stuff for rustshard equipment, don't even bother. That stuff is great in LR, but once you get to HR it is severely underpowered.

What about Ancientshard weapons? I have a bunch of them. Are they also not worth the investment?

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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I finally mined a +4 Charmer talisman to complete my G rank Arzuros gathering set. First run of volcano mining with this set turned up 4 enduring charms, 1 of which was a +6 charmer. When it rains, it pours. :3:

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Dec 28, 2008



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Ciaphas posted:

I'm gonna try to beat Ceadeus again tonight (see last night's IRC whining :argh:) and was wondering if there are any armor skills or sets that are helpful in that underwater environment. I'm still horribly unfamiliar with all the skills in this game, and especially what's actually available to me in low rank village.

Felyne Bombadier and/or Artillery to boost the damage of the underwater ballistas. Trade with the Argosy Captain for 10 UWB ammo, shoot them at him, then gather from the other 2 ammo gather points in the arena (they're right next to each ballista).

Speedboat Jones fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Apr 15, 2013

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Dec 28, 2008



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Lizard Wizard posted:

Aren't we getting the patch this evening, or is that tomorrow? I'm jazzed as hell for gamepad play. :dance:

It'll be something like 5:00pm Pacific time.

Ciaphas posted:

Speaking of felyne, when/how do I actually unlock that mask, is that a high rank thing?

You trade for it with the Argosy Captain. It's a 4 or 5 star rare trade, so hunt a Lagiacrus or Rathalos in daytime Moga Woods.

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Dec 28, 2008



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quiggy posted:

I just want a page with every material in the game and where/how to get them, which neither this wiki nor the Wikia wiki seem to have. Does anybody know of a page like that?

I've been just googling "MH3U [name of material]" and that usually takes me to a forum post on Gamefaqs or something where somebody's asked about it and gotten an answer detailing where to find it.

edit: disregard. That thing above is really spiffy. I didn't even know about it until now. Time to start using that.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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5er posted:

Jesus loving Christ.

I hope you never want to make a critical draw armor set, because Diablos Hardhorns will break your heart. :suicide:

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Dec 28, 2008



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Nechronic posted:

I've only killed about 30 G Rank Diablos. Some of the people I farmed with had over 60 hunts and only one or two hardhorns. One of the goons I grouped with the other day said that the Sand Barioth / Black Diablos advanced quest has a much better chance of rewarding them, you need to do the single Black Diablos hunt to unlock it though, and it's not always in rotation.

That's right. I hunted G Diablos for a few days before hearing about Plain Dangerous. I did some HR7 keys until it popped up, and the first time I did it I got a hardhorn. :shepface: Supposedly the hardhorn can appear in regular quest rewards, so you don't actually need to cap him to get it. But I still cap anyway just to make fighting him over sooner.

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Dec 28, 2008



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TalonDemonKing posted:

Maybe I'm thinking tail bones? It's something for the Axe of Gaia path.

I feel your pain on tailbones, because I just want to make the regular Deviljho wrestling belt which requires one. I thought it'd be good to have Torso Up on a belt, but Duramboros is an rear end in a top hat for having this rare of a drop.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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The thing that makes it easy to put down bombs and a trap for Deviljho is when he wakes up, he takes a pretty big sidestep, so you set it a few steps away from him so that he doesn't activate it. Then you bomb him, and when he wakes up he takes that big sidestep and falls in your trap.

Deviljho's an rear end in a top hat but you definitely have some tools to lock him down for a few seconds at a time and wail on him.

ISUCHARESLOLO posted:

Monster Hunter thread, will this goddamn majestic horn ever drop or am I just not meant to have the full diablos set?

Definitely not what you want to hear, but when I started grinding in G rank for the even rarer horn, I got like 20 majestics.

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Dec 28, 2008



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ISUCHARESLOLO posted:

This poo poo brings tears to my eyes. One more try before I take a break. :smith:

Edit: I've been making sure to break both of diablos horns. Does that affect drop rate or is that the only way the majestic horn will drop in the first place?

If you're going to be putting the time into farming any Diablos gear and dealing with bullshit drop rates on the ultra rares, it should be the G rank sets. The LR Diablos armor is definitely cool for the critical and all that, but the amount of effort going into making a set that gets outclassed so quickly is not worth it. If you fight HR or G Diablos they have a much higher percentage of dropping majestics. Same goes for Rathalos/Rathian/Lagiacrus dropping plates.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Reoxygenation posted:

The 3DS XL CPP can now be bought in the US.

Seems the wait for MH3U to reach a really good level of quality of life features was about a month. A month until combined NA/EU servers and off TV play for the Wii U, and a month for the XL Circlepad Pro for 3DS.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Given how unfun and grindy MH Frontier is, can we expect the same thing from Monster Hunter Online? I'm not gonna get too worked up if it doesn't release here, if that's the case.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Hello, huge wall I've just hit with single player Alatreon. I guess I shouldn't be too upset. I've made it this far in the offline quests, so I guess I just need more practice on him.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Are low damage weapons like dual swords and sword&shield pretty much a case of "element, status, or nothing"? I've never used a SnS or DS very much outside of using the Rustshard SnS in MH3 or some element DS in MHFU.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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For where I am in the game right now, I cheesed Mark of the Hero with Kelbi Bow. I don't give that much of a poo poo. :colbert:

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Dec 28, 2008



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Bugamol posted:

So I made a Kelbi Bow and a full Giginox Set (The one with Status +2 Awakening, etc.) and I gemmed in bomb boost + fast charge. I eat the +Pyro food and everything.

I guess I just don't get it. To my understanding you are supposed to spam charge 1 shots over and over again to trigger slime blasts. It works great for the first ~10-15 shots where I am triggering an almost constant barrage of slime (maybe a slime proc for every 2 shots), but once the monster gains a bit of slime resist (to where it takes 1-4 shots to proc a slime so 4-16 shots to trigger the damage) the damage just seems to completely fall off.

Maybe it's more broken in multiplayer with multiple people using slime? For offline I definitely kill faster with either dual swords or a longsword.

Maybe I'm just horridly unlucky with slime procs?

Or is it just the kelbi bow has 3 slots + access to all status affects? It just doesn't seem as OMG broken as I've heard about. I mean slime is definitely broken, but I don't see why this bow gets such a bad rap compared to any of the others.

However I could see 2-4 kelbi bows being ridiculous, but then again so are 2-4 slime dual swords or really 2-4 slime anything.

Players trash on the bow because it's what they see the most, while some of them will complain about it while they charge in with their bomb boosted, felyne pyro, Brachydios dual swords. I don't think it's really just the kelbi bow that's overpowered, but like you said, slime itself is. I've taken the kelbi into a quest where I was the only person using it, but there was also a slime GL, slime DS, and a slime LS. And every quest with this group was over in under 5-7 minutes on G-rank.

I used the kelbi bow to farm some G-rank poo poo faster and now I have a pretty fun great sword and a critical draw/speed sheath set to use with it. I'm not making any plans to go back to kelbi anytime soon, outside of wanting to obliterate the hell out of something in Moga freehunt for rare trades.

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Dec 28, 2008



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TalonDemonKing posted:

Rathalos arena is going to give me heart complications

I did that one the other night and you're incredibly right. I made the mistake of picking the switch axe setup and NOT respecting his fireballs and exploding backhop. Then I suddenly realized that I was wearing mostly Jade Barroth armor and suddenly it made sense why a fireball was taking 80% of my health.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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There's nothing like offering negate stamina use to an ungrateful dual swords user. :argh: I actually used hunting horns a lot when starting this game out after never ever touching them in MHFU after the tutorial quests, and I was really surprised at how easily I was destroying Raths with it.

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Dec 28, 2008



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Evil Mastermind posted:

Wait, when I break Diablos' horns, I'm supposed to carve them? Nobody told me that! :argh:

Because you're not supposed to and it's not true.

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Dec 28, 2008



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Evil Mastermind posted:

Ah, I see the problem. I was reading the wrong monster stats. Nevermind.

It turns out the part I want is a horn carve off Caecedus, not Diablos. :suicide:

Yeah, the way Diablos horn breaks work is you just break them and then hope for the best after the quest is finished and it goes to randomized loot generation. Breaking the Ceadeus horn allows you to carve it twice.

Is regular Ceadeus' horn able to be broken twice like Goldbeard's?

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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gwrtheyrn posted:

Isn't that the rare drop from the 4* treasure location or something?

It is. Definitely send them with treasure trackers.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Tigrex is the monster that made me learn the "Gotcha, bitch!" school if greatswording. I'll never forget you, you magnificent rear end in a top hat! :arghfist::haw:

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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Evade distance+ skill and gunning Mark of the Hero makes it really easy. Also, using farcasters and bringing equipment to make more. It's total easy mode to use the farcasters, but if you don't care about that and just want to unlock Alatreon, go for it.

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Dec 28, 2008



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5er posted:

I couldn't wrap my head around the differences in mobility between lance and greatsword. I go back to it every now and again but I haven't gotten a taste for it yet.

Great sword's mobility is supposed to be pretty much a non-issue because the best way to play it is to focus on draw attacks so you'll mostly want to do your dodging while it's sheathed.

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



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I'm sorry that you can't make one set of armor that beats the whole game.

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Dec 28, 2008



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LemonAIDS posted:

Oh goodness, just got a gem with artillery+10 and 3 slots. Good thing I use gunlances :getin:

:stare: and with gemming, that's an automatic artillery king charm. Lucky pull.

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