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pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009





"Mirrors! You used loving mirrors!"

If you're like me, you may have grown up catching the occasional television special featuring Lance Burton making a dove appear out of goddamn nowhere, or David Copperfield walking through the Great Wall of China. If you're older, you may have caught a performance by Dai Vernon or Slydini in their prime. Maybe you've been to Vegas and checked out Penn & Teller or Siegfried & Roy. Whatever the case, at some point you've probably watched a professional perform a magical feat and realized you had a stupid grin on your face. Well, this is a thread for those moments.

RULES

Lets try and keep "magic exposure" to a minimum. In most cases magicians guard an empty safe when it comes to their "secrets", but lets try and keep the thread free from too much exposure. It's fun to discuss how something might have been done, the history surrounding it, or the mechanics behind it - that's only natural - but lets try and hold back on blatantly calling out how a trick is performed. With that being said: Please no Masked Magician.

Keep it tasteful and interesting. There is a seemingly endless ocean of bad magic, bad performers, and bad performances out there and thanks to the internet it is all at your fingertips. Use discretion when posting content that might show something embarrassing, awkward, or just bad. Sometimes that sort of thing can be funny and entertaining but more often than that it's just painful to watch.

Leave your hatred for <insert mainstream magician> at the door. Blaine, Angel, Dynamo: They all use camera tricks and in some cases shills/stooges. They are talented entertainers and magicians and do a decent job at entertaining most people. Lets just leave it at that. Feel free to post performances by them.

Pictures, videos, links, stories, experiences, history - all are welcome here as long as they relate to magic. Stage magic, close-up magic, mentalism, black art, whatever! Post 'em here.

CONTENT

In 1856, French magician Robert-Houdin was sent by Napoleon's III's Second French Empire to Algeria to counter the magic being performed by the marabouts; these wandering holy men sought to bring about a revolt against the French by performing false miracles and getting the population into a superstitious frenzy. Robert-Houdin was considered the greatest magician in Europe at the time, and had been entertaining courts and royalty all over the continent before this point in his career. The French decided to pit magician against magician in an attempt to downplay the marabouts and prove to the superstitious population that French magic was more powerful than what the marabouts had. Here's one of the many insane feats he performed during his travels in North Africa:

quote:

...While the Frenchman was stopping in a native village a marabout drew two pistols from his burnoose and challenged Robert-Houdin to a duel in which the marabout claimed the right to the first shot! Robert-Houdin protested but finally agreed to fight the duel under the marabout's conditions at eight o'clock the following morning.

The meeting took place in an open square surrounded by whitewashed buildings. The square was packed with Arabs who hoped to see the Frenchman killed. The marabout produced his pistols which he proceeded to load with powder. He offered Robert-Houdin a handful of bullets. The Frenchman chose two and dropped them into the barrels with a ramrod.

The marabout had watched every step and felt sure that his adversary could not escape. He took careful aim and pulled the trigger on the Frenchman. Robert-Houdin smiled - and displayed the bullet between his teeth. The marabout tried to seize the other pistol, but the French conjuror held him off saying, "You could not injure me, but you shall see my skills are more dangerous than yours. Watch!" He fired at the nearest wall. Whitewash flew. Where the bullet had struck, a gout of blood appeared and dripped slowly down the wall.

Everyone flipped the gently caress out.

Since I am on Robert-Houdin, here's a piece on his exceptional orange tree illusion, which he invented:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ht_afydffk

Moving onto more modern performances, here's a really great cups and balls routine by Yann Frisch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsY7fqfKwAk

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Mgant
Nov 26, 2005

Best in the West


In Sweden we have outlawed sorcery like this. Here is a somewhat amusing albeit rather cheesy presentation of Sweden from some conference. It is a little unusual atleast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-GZqni4IfA

schwenz
Jun 20, 2003

"DANCE. Like it's nobody's business."

Also, you suck dicks or something


I'm always amazed by slight of hand. Not just the skill of doing it, but at just how our brains accept it.

I used to do this card trick where you stack two cards together to look like one card show them the "one" card and so on. I practiced forever getting those two cards together smoothly. But soon realized, if you say "I take this ONE card" you can practically put them together in front of the persons face and they still see it as one card.

Misdirection, I guess.

Check this guys slight of hand madness.

http://youtu.be/03HootEmDac

Target Practice
Aug 20, 2004

Shit.

schwenz posted:

Check this guys slight of hand madness.

http://youtu.be/03HootEmDac

This motherfucker could steal the fillings out of my teeth and I would be none the wiser.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

...


schwenz posted:

Check this guys slight of hand madness.

http://youtu.be/03HootEmDac

Why's that guy dancing around to the X-Men cartoon theme?

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009



That's a really slick presentation, Mgant. What they are discussing could have easily been presented in a boring PowerPoint presentation, so that was really cool.

And yeah, on sleight of hand: The overdone phrase "The hand is quicker than the eye" really isn't all that accurate, but it sounds impossible and people like that. It's really all about controlling the attention of your audience throughout your performance. You can be as slow as molasses but as long as you can effectively direct someones attention you can get away with almost anything. While we're on sleight of hand I think we've gotta mention Ricky Jay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LYjMHzQ_oU

Here's an excerpt from his show Ricky Jay and His 52 Assistants, demonstrating card control. Pretty sure you can find the whole show floating around on YouTube somewhere if you're interested. He's a good storyteller and magician.

RentCavalier
Jul 10, 2008

I mean, who dreams about taking a shit with another guy?


Wait...wait. That story in the OP.

What!? Is there a book about this guy's life or all of the crazy things he did, preferably with explanations of some of his tricks? I have never been more interested in reading about a person's life. That's the most insane "magic trick" I've ever heard of.

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009



His autobiography The Memoirs of Robert-Houdin, first published in English in 1859, is your best bet. I haven't read it yet, but I hear it's very good.

Evil Badman
Aug 19, 2006
Do Not Trust This Man

Penn and Teller had a series in the UK recently, wherein they invited magicians to fool them. While many of the illusionists and sleight of hand masters were called out on their deceptions, one man, Mathieu Bich performed an astounding card trick.

Teller's face tells the whole story at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2t44ZRpb84

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...


The best part of that video is the Mathieu does at the end.

stuxracer
May 4, 2006


I watched all of the episodes of that Penn and Teller show and that trick does stand out.
I wish more magic was on TV like that.

CanUSayGym
Aug 19, 2006

Hmm? Vincent van Gogh fuck myself?
Survey says?


I enjoyed this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJurN3YDdIw

John Archer fools Penn and Teller on that show as well. I like it more for the story and comedy than the actual trick, though it was good.


I found a website showing all the tricks and explaining them and I can't find it anymore . It was an old geocities looking site.

CanUSayGym fucked around with this message at Mar 30, 2013 around 00:06

jalopybrown
Oct 11, 2012

Much Mother-Fucking Wicked Clown Love


I remember Penn mentioning a magician he enjoyed and I checked some videos of the guy out on youtube, one of them had him take a volunteer and put a coat hanger into the closed loop of her arm while allowing the rest of the audience to see how it was done quite blatantly, the point being to show how the illusion is more of a thrill when you don't know how it's done. Does anyone know who I'm talking about?

RentCavalier
Jul 10, 2008

I mean, who dreams about taking a shit with another guy?


CanUSayGym posted:

I enjoyed this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJurN3YDdIw

John Archer fools Penn and Teller on that show as well. I like it more for the story and comedy than the actual trick, though it was good.


I found a website showing all the tricks and explaining them and I can't find it anymore . It was an old geocities looking site.

That seemed less like a magic trick and more like a kind of group psychology sort of thing. He rehearses a routine and writes key words on envelopes and basically just charms the audience into behaving exactly how he wants them to. The only problem is, that leaves an awful lot up to chance.

Medieval Medic
Sep 8, 2011


By far my favorite performer is Derren Brown, he is just so fun to watch, very charismatic and funny too.

weirdspaceships
Jan 25, 2012


Medieval Medic posted:

By far my favorite performer is Derren Brown, he is just so fun to watch, very charismatic and funny too.

Derren is amazing. Here's him in America paying for things with blank paper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vz_YTNLn6w

But his straight up mentalism is just the best. He has a really good sense of drama and theater.

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009



I really like this performance, also from that Penn & Teller show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ2ebs9F1ek

A signed card into a sealed box in new deck order where the card originally was, and the box is examinable. What. the. gently caress.

Stealth Tiger
Nov 14, 2009


NWS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA0G3A__sDw

I am just gonna post this here. I guess its not some astonishing technical trick, but it is really really drat funny.


Also, on a more serious note, Teller did an interview with Esquire a few months ago that you guys should check out.
http://www.esquire.com/features/tel...-interview-1012

TShields
Mar 29, 2007

We can rule them like gods! ...Angry gods.


CanUSayGym posted:

I enjoyed this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJurN3YDdIw

John Archer fools Penn and Teller on that show as well. I like it more for the story and comedy than the actual trick, though it was good.


I found a website showing all the tricks and explaining them and I can't find it anymore . It was an old geocities looking site.

I don't get how this show works. Like.. couldn't the magician just lie to them? Or do they have a secret explanation back stage or something?

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009



I never really saw Fool Us as an actual competition, I think it was more of just a magic show with the concept of a competition built around it. So I don't think they'd lie about anything because I think everyone is in on it.

Maybe that's just me though.

Edit to add: That Esquire article is really good reading. It's unfortunate that Teller had that stolen from him, but that poo poo has been going on since forever. I mean you had magicians in the 19th century at war with each other trying to steal each others illusions. You had magicians like Harry Kellar that couldn't figure out the Maskelyne family secret of levitation effects and ended up just bumrushing the stage during a performance in London to figure it out. Then he went back to America and tried to build it himself.

pixelbaron fucked around with this message at Mar 30, 2013 around 16:43

Ixjuvin
Aug 8, 2009

if smug was a motorcycle, it just jumped over a fucking canyon

TShields posted:

I don't get how this show works. Like.. couldn't the magician just lie to them? Or do they have a secret explanation back stage or something?

Well it's not like these performers are just walking in off the street, I think that they break down the trick for the producers or one of P&T's magical associates beforehand (and possibly Ross for the tricks that won't involve him), so as to prevent cheating. A number of the tricks involved a great deal of setup or equipment and probably rehersal. It's just the hosts who are in the dark.

I think Chris Dugdale had my favorite act from the whole Fool Us show; it's not the most impressive technically, but it has the best payoff.

Ixjuvin fucked around with this message at Mar 30, 2013 around 16:50

mynameisbatman
Oct 3, 2008
Wow, someone just spent 10bux to get me to re-friend them on Steam! What!?! hahahaha
-xj


Ixjuvin posted:

Well it's not like these performers are just walking in off the street, I think that they break down the trick for the producers or one of P&T's magical associates beforehand (and possibly Ross for the tricks that won't involve him), so as to prevent cheating. A number of the tricks involved a great deal of setup or equipment and probably rehersal. It's just the hosts who are in the dark.

I think Chris Dugdale had my favorite act from the whole Fool Us show; it's not the most impressive technically, but it has the best payoff.

Yeah the trick has to be explained and shown to the producers before it's performed to Penn and Teller. This prevents the magician from being able to lie to them.

-Zydeco-
Nov 12, 2007


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Ya2ofLWxQ

The Great Cardini from 1957. Not as clever as the more modern performances, but I like the charm of the routine.

-Zydeco- fucked around with this message at Mar 31, 2013 around 19:11

Grinnblade
Sep 24, 2007



I've been more partial to the guys that use sleight of hand and other things to distract you while they take things you shouldn't be able to lose.

Apollo Robbins demonstrates on the hosts of Today (watch Lauer's reactions as Apollo goes after the second guy's watch):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG2HPtbV-80

And then, the absolute master, Bob Arno manages to steal suspenders, glasses, a SHIRT (!) and UNDERPANTS (!!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5SeoY-mOtk

Grinnblade fucked around with this message at Mar 31, 2013 around 19:31

weirdspaceships
Jan 25, 2012


Wayne Houchin is a classy guy. Here he is doing the Invisible Palm: http://vimeo.com/3049796

And here he is doing Thread, which you may have seen Criss Angel performing some years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUNOpw84oDc

I love Thread, but it's truly a bitch to perform.

Centipeed
Apr 19, 2007



I really enjoyed this video, not only because you get to hear Teller speak, but because it features a magician performing a trick that only another accomplished magician would get a kick out of.

So he's not performing the magic trick for anyone else watching - just the person he's across from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgtgOs_OkTU

Stealth Tiger
Nov 14, 2009


pixelbaron posted:


Edit to add: That Esquire article is really good reading. It's unfortunate that Teller had that stolen from him, but that poo poo has been going on since forever. I mean you had magicians in the 19th century at war with each other trying to steal each others illusions. You had magicians like Harry Kellar that couldn't figure out the Maskelyne family secret of levitation effects and ended up just bumrushing the stage during a performance in London to figure it out. Then he went back to America and tried to build it himself.

My dad showed me that article, and he actually thought that Teller was kinda 'working' the interview at that part to set up some big meta thing, given how dedicated he can be. I hope for Teller's sake that's what's going on, but I don't know if anything ever came up with that thief. I hope at least it was some kind of PSA type thing Teller set up to let people know about theft in the magic community.

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009



Yeah, it could just be a very elaborate way of incorporating something new into his show, and it's all just an act to get more people interested.

Then again he might just be fed up with it. I know for the past couple of months one of the magazines dedicated to magic (Genii) has been publishing articles discussing copyrights and patent law as it pertains to magicians, so it's definitely something that seems to be a problem for people.

Edit to add some more content:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCQiocETD9c

A really cool illusion that was probably a bitch to choreograph.

pixelbaron fucked around with this message at Apr 2, 2013 around 13:40

Elohssa Gib
Aug 30, 2006

Easily Amused

Lennart Green at TED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_oa8m5Oq00

e. also does anyone have that video where they change the scene while you're watching it without you really noticing at all?

Elohssa Gib fucked around with this message at Apr 3, 2013 around 18:32

SheepNameKiller
Jun 19, 2004



pixelbaron posted:

Since I am on Robert-Houdin, here's a piece on his exceptional orange tree illusion, which he invented:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ht_afydffk

Reading the comments on that video is a mindfuck, people coming up with all sorts of outlandish explanations for how it's done.

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012

SO EMBARRASSING

The New Yorker did a profile on Apollo Robbins a while back, focusing on his insane career path from criminal to stage magician to crime fighter.

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009



SheepNameKiller posted:

Reading the comments on that video is a mindfuck, people coming up with all sorts of outlandish explanations for how it's done.

"As for the Orange Tree, its anyone's guess, but I suppose he has found a way stop the growth of an orange until the very last step which is sprout. Once the tree figures it has enough fluids to produce the oranges, which is when the box is turned, it sprouts."

I had to read that a couple of times. I would say it's a joke but this is YouTube.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...


Maybe magic actually exists and the real trick is making us think it's all an illusion.

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009



Elohssa Gib posted:

e. also does anyone have that video where they change the scene while you're watching it without you really noticing at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3iPrBrGSJM

This one?

Elohssa Gib
Aug 30, 2006

Easily Amused


Could be I could've sworn the one I'm thinking of had more people and changes, but I may be misremembering.

Diet Conan Doyle
Jan 15, 2010

Watch as I pluck the moon from the very sky!


Elohssa Gib posted:

Could be I could've sworn the one I'm thinking of had more people and changes, but I may be misremembering.

Are you talking about that Test Your Awareness video? Watching them replay it at the end with all the changes they do in one take is incredible:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubNF9QNEQLA

pixelbaron
Mar 18, 2009



Here's a cool tutorial for a simple card trick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WchiVRO51k

He did a thing where he'd record a video of himself doing magic for 365 days, was pretty cool and this video is apart of that.

stratdax
Sep 14, 2006


Grinnblade posted:

And then, the absolute master, Bob Arno manages to steal suspenders, glasses, a SHIRT (!) and UNDERPANTS (!!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5SeoY-mOtk

How is the shirt and underpants possible? Your arms and legs kind of block the material. I don't get it.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Look, one way or another, you're leaving this place covered in semen. Might as well have some fun.


The obviousness of the gimmick reminds me of this REAL MAGIC: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZqazVa9RoZs

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weirdspaceships
Jan 25, 2012


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz02_HaOEW8

The Curisodades 2010 team (bunch of magicians from America, few other places, who perform a special in the Dominican Republic) stop all of the clocks in the Dominican Republic.

The action starts at 2 minutes in (unless you want to watch some busty ladies participate in a card trick, I guess). All the action afterwards is people calling in and reporting to the station how their clocks and watches and what have you stopped.

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