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It astounds me that nigh on 10 years after the premier of the first show Nickelodeon still either doesn't know how to handle or has zero faith in the Avatar franchise. Even after it's proven repeatedly to be one of thier most popular properties.
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Jsor posted:The season 1 Korra finale really just killed my interest in the show entirely. That sounds overdramatic, but I don't mean I huffed and puffed and got mad at the show. It's just after seeing it I just found I didn't care enough to watch the second second season when it came out. I think 98% of my problem with that episode was giving Korra her powers back, because I thought it would be such a good premise to have a powerless Avatar for half a season. I was referring to the latest set of videos. I only now realized that using "one" instead of vlog was a bad choice of words. Season 3 of Korra is pretty good but still doesn't really size up to The Last Airbender (at least seasons 2 and 3). Only having 12 episode seasons really screwed up things up.
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Sep 3, 2014 00:20
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nine-gear crow posted:It astounds me that nigh on 10 years after the premier of the first show Nickelodeon still either doesn't know how to handle or has zero faith in the Avatar franchise. Even after it's proven repeatedly to be one of thier most popular properties. Also I hope Doug chooses a new show to vlog about, something like Gravity Falls or hell Regular Show.
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Sep 3, 2014 01:22
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achillesforever6 posted:Its like how CN handled shows like Justice League or Samurai Jack or Symbiotic Titan. Quick question, Young Justice was the show that was canceled because the ratings said a lot of girls watched it so the network thought something was wrong with the show, right?
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Sep 3, 2014 01:32
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BigRed0427 posted:Quick question, Young Justice was the show that was canceled because the ratings said a lot of girls watched it so the network thought something was wrong with the show, right? Kind of, their reasoning was that girls don't buy action figures and that is were the real money lies with cartoons. No idea if that was an assumption, or if they had numbers to back that up.
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Sep 3, 2014 01:35
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e X posted:Kind of, their reasoning was that girls don't buy action figures and that is were the real money lies with cartoons. No idea if that was an assumption, or if they had numbers to back that up.
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Sep 3, 2014 02:50
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Benny the Snake posted:But more depressingly, it's a symptom of the disease that's been plaguing Warner/DC right around when the New 52 started. It's to squeeze as much blood out of their narrow fanbase as possible without any attempt to expand before it's too late That's not a new-52 thing, that has literally been the policy of comic publisher since 1996. You hit the reasoning right on the head though, with the dwindling sales numbers, they cling very hard to the small number of buyers they have instead of changing their concept and risking to lose this very last bastion of assured sales. It's what has been slowly killing the industry and is the reason we basically never left the '90s. And of course it's Marvel that has been actually slowly changing this, while DC has doubled down with the N52. e X fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 03:44
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e X posted:That's not a new-52 thing, that has literally been the policy of comic publisher since 1996. And they wonder why they will never be able to outdo Marvel Studios. I think DC going way too fast with it's world building, and I am sure the JLA movie will not do anywhere near what the Avengers did.
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Sep 3, 2014 03:48
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Benny the Snake posted:Paul Dini did an interview with Kevin Smith where he discussed the rationalizations the powers that be made in their decision to cancel Young Justice. Here's the link with all the pertinents. But yeah, essentially the reasoning was "Boys buy action figures while girls don't" and it's based off this narrow minded view that superheroes are for boys and not girls which is utter bullshit. But more depressingly, it's a symptom of the disease that's been plaguing Warner/DC right around when the New 52 started. It's to squeeze as much blood out of their narrow fanbase as possible without any attempt to expand before it's too late Another funny thing is Green Lantern TAS which was really good got canceled because no stores would hold Green Lantern merch because they got burned by holding toys for that lovely loving movie.
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Sep 3, 2014 03:59
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achillesforever6 posted:Its also reasons why instead of sticking with designs like Starfire from the cartoon to making her basically naked in the comics because DC is all about being mature and not funny and kiddy.  e X posted:That's not a new-52 thing, that has literally been the policy of comic publisher since 1996. You hit the reasoning right on the head though, with the dwindling sales numbers, they cling very hard to the small number of buyers they have instead of changing their concept and risking to lose this very last bastion of assured sales. It's what has been slowly killing the industry and is the reason we basically never left the '90s. 
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Sep 3, 2014 04:14
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e X posted:That's not a new-52 thing, that has literally been the policy of comic publisher since 1996. You hit the reasoning right on the head though, with the dwindling sales numbers, they cling very hard to the small number of buyers they have instead of changing their concept and risking to lose this very last bastion of assured sales. It's what has been slowly killing the industry and is the reason we basically never left the '90s. Part of this in DC is also because it is currently being run by guys who had their greatest success during the 90s. Edit: People wonder why stuff like Adventure Time is SO popular. I'm actualy shocked the Adam West Batman is getting a release at all. I would think, even with all the rights issues sorted out, DC Editorial would fight to not have it released because "That's not who Batman is anymore" BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 04:20
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BigRed0427 posted:Part of this in DC is also because it is currently being run by guys who had their greatest success during the 90s.
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The definitive DC character is no longer Batman or Superman, it's Aquaman. Why is this so? Because for almost 40 years Aquaman has been the apotheosis of the mentality "I'm not Silly! I'm Very Serious! I'm for Grown-Ups! Take me Seriously!" and that's what DC Comics is all about. 
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Metal Loaf posted:The definitive DC character is no longer Batman or Superman, it's Aquaman. Case in point: stunt-casting Jason Momoa in the latest desperate bid to get people to take Aquaman serious. "Oh, I know! Let's get that guy from Game of Thrones who screamed a lot and ripped out that guy's tongue. That'll make people take Aquaman seriously and not inspire a chorus of 'what the hell were they thinking?' $100 million salary please!" And I love the poo poo out of Jason Momoa too... nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Sep 3, 2014 |
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Sep 3, 2014 10:30
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Aquaman is awesome when in the right hands, you guys are haters. 
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Sep 3, 2014 11:34
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There is literally nothing that can be done to make Aquaman cool in the masses' minds, and it's pretty sad because King of Atlantis that founded the Justice League should be awesome on paper.
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Sep 3, 2014 11:36
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Tae posted:There is literally nothing that can be done to make Aquaman cool in the masses' minds, and it's pretty sad because King of Atlantis that founded the Justice League should be awesome on paper. It's become a running, easy, memetic joke, "lol all Aquaman can do is talk to fish." Because a super hero's character is entirely their super power, nothing else matters (yeah I know he also has super strength and stuff but the general public doesn't). This is apparently ignoring the fact that Batman's power is "rich."
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Sep 3, 2014 11:45
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No, the thing is that people, by and large, don't give a flying gently caress about superheroes and only know about Aquaman as the punchline to the joke about him being lame because he can just talk to fish. Trying to explain that he is a cool character is like trying to establish the heartwarming backstory of the rabbi and the priest, nobody cares outside of the joke.
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Sep 3, 2014 11:55
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Everyone acts like Aquaman is a joke that no one will ever take seriously, but he's such an underdog now that as long as he's done half-well and gets one good moment people will love him. It's not like this would be the first case of a movie changing people's minds about a superhero.
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Sep 3, 2014 12:04
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When has a movie ever rehabilitated a character from joke to respected? Movies tend to move public opinion in the other direction via bombs.
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It's pretty goddamn sad that no matter how badass they make Aquaman, more people will have seen Superfriends and regurgitated that dumb meme than will ever pick up a comic book. It's the same poo poo as Hank Pym.
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You'd think Justice League would have saved Aquaman's character, seeing how he was pretty  in that.
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Gyges posted:When has a movie ever rehabilitated a character from joke to respected? Movies tend to move public opinion in the other direction via bombs. Rocket Racoon I've seen turn people from "Who? Is this a joke?" to marketable powerhouse. I assume the same for Hank Pym as well, although that can easily steer into the Wife Beater if people actually read about Pym.
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Sep 3, 2014 14:41
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MonsieurChoc posted:Aquaman is awesome when in the right hands, you guys are haters. Hey, I like Aquaman, and I enjoy stuff like Peter David's "undersea Conan the Barbarian" take on the character, which is pretty much the big example (not to mention the most successful) of trying to rehabilitate Aquaman's image and provided the basis for his DCAU portrayal. Sometimes it just seems like a lot of the effort they put into refuting the "swims fast, talks to fish" joke from Superfriends ends up looping back around and becoming a joke in itself. nine-gear crow posted:And I love the poo poo out of Jason Momoa too... He should know his way around Atlantis, at least.
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achillesforever6 posted:You'd think Justice League would have saved Aquaman's character, seeing how he was pretty The episode where he chops off his hand with his belt buckle is pretty hard core but I guess people say that he was kinda tryhard in JLU? At any rate, the Batman Brave and the Bold version seems to be the definite Aquaman
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Calaveron posted:The episode where he chops off his hand with his belt buckle is pretty hard core but I guess people say that he was kinda tryhard in JLU? At any rate, the Batman Brave and the Bold version seems to be the definite Aquaman Yeah. Why can't we get Brian Blessed to play Aquaman in the new movie?
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I had a horrible, awful, lovely day yesterday and watching this movie last night made me laugh quite a lot, despite wishing I was dead.  Call me a fangirl, but I'm really happy with the final product. So worth the wait. And Pat the NES Punk is in it as well 
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Don't ever read the comments for the "available now" video on youtube. Unless you like reading entitled little shits getting angry about having to pay for the movie. Holy moly... 
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Goddamn wealthy internet critics constantly loving the little guy!
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Ema Nymton posted:I had a horrible, awful, lovely day yesterday and watching this movie last night made me laugh quite a lot, despite wishing I was dead. The movie itself was decent. I probably wasn't as blown away by it as you because I'm late to the AVGN party. (The video on Tiger Games was the first time I ever watched him) I can't wait to see what else he does next  .
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Tae posted:Rocket Racoon I've seen turn people from "Who? Is this a joke?" to marketable powerhouse. I assume the same for Hank Pym as well, although that can easily steer into the Wife Beater if people actually read about Pym. No one had any opinion on Rocket before though because nobody knew he existed. The movie took him from "that sounds like a weird concept" to popular. Has Hank been in a movie before? Because as far as I know he's still known as the wife beater who's completely superfluous because his buddies Reed and Tony are just a phone call away.
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Gyges posted:No one had any opinion on Rocket before though because nobody knew he existed. The movie took him from "that sounds like a weird concept" to popular. Has Hank been in a movie before? Because as far as I know he's still known as the wife beater who's completely superfluous because his buddies Reed and Tony are just a phone call away. Literally no one knows he's a 'wife beater' except people who read the comics and know that arc is ancient and will probably have nothing to do with the movie, and people who read a Cracked "SEVEN DARK TURNS IN COMIC BOOKS" type article. I'd say Pym is as much known as Rocket Raccoon.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Literally no one knows he's a 'wife beater' except people who read the comics and know that arc is ancient and will probably have nothing to do with the movie, and people who read a Cracked "SEVEN DARK TURNS IN COMIC BOOKS" type article. I'd say Pym is as much known as Rocket Raccoon.
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quote:When has a movie ever rehabilitated a character from joke to respected? Movies tend to move public opinion in the other direction via bombs. Captain America was considered pretty cheesy when I was a kid, due in no small part to the awful 90s movie with the rubber ears. I grew up in a small town in Canada, and "Captain America" was one of a handful of PG movies available for rent in the convenience store, so it made the rounds and all the kids hated it. It also probably had something to do with being a "national stereotype" super-hero for someone else's nation. In any event, his franchise is way better off now. Then again, even at his worst, Captain American was never considered as big a joke as Aquaman.
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I would say the Tim Burton Batman movies brought Batman up from the joke he was from the 60's show, at least in the public eye.
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Gyges posted:No one had any opinion on Rocket before though because nobody knew he existed. The movie took him from "that sounds like a weird concept" to popular. UMvC3 might have helped some too, though I'm not sure how many people play the MvC games that aren't already big Marvel fans.
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Gyges posted:When has a movie ever rehabilitated a character from joke to respected? Movies tend to move public opinion in the other direction via bombs. Dredd seems to have stopped a lot of the ire for the character in the US, at least for the people who took a chance and watched it.
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Ronk a Donk posted:Captain America was considered pretty cheesy when I was a kid, due in no small part to the awful 90s movie with the rubber ears. I grew up in a small town in Canada, and "Captain America" was one of a handful of PG movies available for rent in the convenience store, so it made the rounds and all the kids hated it. It also probably had something to do with being a "national stereotype" super-hero for someone else's nation. In any event, his franchise is way better off now. Then again, even at his worst, Captain American was never considered as big a joke as Aquaman. Was this the Reb Brown Captain or Matt Salinger Captain? Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I would say the Tim Burton Batman movies brought Batman up from the joke he was from the 60's show, at least in the public eye. Anyone against Adam West Batman is a horrible person and their opinions are invalid.
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Gyges posted:Was this the Reb Brown Captain or Matt Salinger Captain? Rubber ears was Matt Salinger; Reb Brown had the motorcycle helmet.
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Gyges posted:Anyone against Adam West Batman is a horrible person and their opinions are invalid. "They may be drinkers, Robin, but they're also human beings." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLZQ3OLEJWE
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