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59 | 9.58% |
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| FEAR CLOWNPIECE |
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414 | 67.21% |
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Oct 8, 2014 02:56
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WarpedNaba posted:That's her excuse and she's sticking to it! Excuse?! Getting rid of such a masterpiece clearly would have hurt her deeply and if wearing it wouldn't literally have killed her i'm sure she would have used it all the time. 
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Oct 8, 2014 03:02
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brave nazi aviator posted:Well i would but, Well duh, I did not say to share your filthy findings in this thread. brave nazi aviator posted:So was my original question. I guess there's no point in asking "how and why this happen, why did it turn out this way"? Excluding fanworks, touhou is one of the least sexualized shoot them up games featuring under-aged girls out there. Sexualizing under-aged girls is sadly nothing new and will sadly never end. But the answer to your question is beyond the scope of this thread and anyone in here.
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Oct 8, 2014 04:26
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WarpedNaba posted:Did Kokoro throw the new mask of hope away in HM, or did she discretely deposit it afterwards? I can't remember. I believe Mamizou told her to keep it, because she needed to use it to stabilize her emotions long enough to grow out of her need for it. It's unclear what the time frame for that is, but I'm assuming it's decades or centuries because Touhou's very much a "everything is exactly the same as you left it unless it changes on-screen" series. Using it would not immediately kill her, it's more of a "smoking gives you lung cancer" risk.
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Oct 8, 2014 04:39
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Clarste posted:I believe Mamizou told her to keep it, because she needed to use it to stabilize her emotions long enough to grow out of her need for it. It's unclear what the time frame for that is, but I'm assuming it's decades or centuries because Touhou's very much a "everything is exactly the same as you left it unless it changes on-screen" series. Using it would not immediately kill her, it's more of a "smoking gives you lung cancer" risk. I thought Kokoro's emotion problems were largely resolved by the end of HM. At the very least she seemed to have developed an ego and enough control over her emotions to get a new perspective on the incident and realize that the religious figures used it for their advantage. And that they should get beaten up.
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Oct 8, 2014 06:07
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I thought Kokoro's emotion problems were largely resolved by the end of HM. At the very least she seemed to have developed an ego and enough control over her emotions to get a new perspective on the incident and realize that the religious figures used it for their advantage. And that they should get beaten up. I figured it was a Koishi-style "and her eyelid twitched while she began to feel regret for the first time" ending. We see that progress has been made, but it's just the first step. Mostly because it would be pretty boring to have a mask character who overcomes her maskness immediately. The FS chapter also seemed to show that Kokoro was pretty much the same.
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Oct 8, 2014 06:15
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Clarste posted:I figured it was a Koishi-style "and her eyelid twitched while she began to feel regret for the first time" ending. We see that progress has been made, but it's just the first step. Mostly because it would be pretty boring to have a mask character who overcomes her maskness immediately. The FS chapter also seemed to show that Kokoro was pretty much the same. I didn't mean that she had gotten complete control over her emotions, just at least enough to not unknowingly mind-control a village or need to use a mask that could literally kill her. I should probably catch-up with FS though, it probably has a clearer picture than whatever I gathered from the dialogue.
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Oct 8, 2014 09:50
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I didn't mean that she had gotten complete control over her emotions, just at least enough to not unknowingly mind-control a village or need to use a mask that could literally kill her. Honestly the dialogue of her route didn't give me the impression that she'd gotten any control of her emotions, rather that she just felt anger for the first time in her life and was overcome by it. She's feeling emotions, which is a step in the right direction, but she's still got a gaping hole in her psyche that needs to be filled by a Mask of Hope. Losing control of her emotions wasn't really the problem anyway, it was being unbalanced. Her ultimate goal is to make her own Mask of Hope out of her own hope. Her portrayal in FS isn't very interesting, and doesn't really go in depth. It's just her performing her play at the shrine like it says she does in her ending, while Kosuzu gets all freaked out because she's a youkai. I suppose the most interesting moment is when it's confirmed that Hopeless Masquerade was a play she was putting on (written by Mamizou?) with exaggerated caricatures of the characters and funny voices.
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Oct 8, 2014 10:05
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Clarste posted:Honestly the dialogue of her route didn't give me the impression that she'd gotten any control of her emotions, rather that she just felt anger for the first time in her life and was overcome by it. She's feeling emotions, which is a step in the right direction, but she's still got a gaping hole in her psyche that needs to be filled by a Mask of Hope. Losing control of her emotions wasn't really the problem anyway, it was being unbalanced. Her ultimate goal is to make her own Mask of Hope out of her own hope. I thought the supposed point of Kokoro's arc wasn't to balance out her emotions, but develop her own sense of self without relying on the masks. I mean she's still a mask tsukomogami so they are a part of her but wasn't her whole thing with Mamizou about developing an ego and not just thinking of herself as individual masks or something? I mean, Mamizou notes that she should stop referring to herself as "we". I think it also fits with how literally everyone other than Mamizou was incredibly unhelpful in solving the problem. Most don't care or leave it to their bosses to deal with. Miko creates a mask that would balance her emotion so well, she would just return to being an inanimate pile of masks and Byakuren tries to teach her to control her emotions, which doesn't help her either. It's only after chatting with Mamizou that she stops searching for the Mask of Hope and starts having thoughts beyond retrieving it. Sure, she gets a little too attached to earning The Title Of The Strongest but at least she's not fixating on her lost mask anymore. Man, it's kinda hard to think about Kokoro because she's actually supposed to have some slight character development in like the last two stories, but I don't think the way Touhou games are written is really suited to showing that sort of stuff.
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Oct 8, 2014 11:34
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Clarste posted:I suppose the most interesting moment is when it's confirmed that Hopeless Masquerade was a play she was putting on (written by Mamizou?) with exaggerated caricatures of the characters and funny voices. Tbh that would make a great official manga, having the HM story told post-incident via Kokoro, some strong-armed cast as the Greek chorus, and irate comments from the assembled peanut gallery.
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Oct 8, 2014 14:15
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I thought the supposed point of Kokoro's arc wasn't to balance out her emotions, but develop her own sense of self without relying on the masks. I mean she's still a mask tsukomogami so they are a part of her but wasn't her whole thing with Mamizou about developing an ego and not just thinking of herself as individual masks or something? I mean, Mamizou notes that she should stop referring to herself as "we". I think it also fits with how literally everyone other than Mamizou was incredibly unhelpful in solving the problem. Most don't care or leave it to their bosses to deal with. Miko creates a mask that would balance her emotion so well, she would just return to being an inanimate pile of masks and Byakuren tries to teach her to control her emotions, which doesn't help her either. It's only after chatting with Mamizou that she stops searching for the Mask of Hope and starts having thoughts beyond retrieving it. Sure, she gets a little too attached to earning The Title Of The Strongest but at least she's not fixating on her lost mask anymore. The masks are a part of her, so missing a mask means that she's missing a part of herself. It's not for no reason that she's compared to Koishi. Developing her own ego is a step, but the final goal is still to create a new mask for her. It's just a mask made of her own ego, so she doesn't need to rely on anyone else again. And, well, Kokoro isn't really thinking her own thoughts for most of her route because she's just imitating people. Her fixation on the The Title of the Strongest is just what the first person she met (Ichirin) told her to do, and this is hard to convey in the translation because we never gave the characters strong voices, but after she beats people she starts talking like them until she beats the next person. It's a journey to discover herself by taking on parts of everyone else. I think the theme isn't that no one helped her, but instead that everyone helped her in a small, incomplete-on-its-own way that wasn't put together until Mamizou. In the end, she actually goes berserk for the first time, but that's also kind of cathartic because it means she's finally feeling her own emotions, which is a powerful moment of losing control. Er... yeah, Touhou is a weird place for storytelling. In the end though, her "power to cause emotions" is just the same thing as telling a story. Her thing is just telling stories. WarpedNaba posted:Tbh that would make a great official manga, having the HM story told post-incident via Kokoro, some strong-armed cast as the Greek chorus, and irate comments from the assembled peanut gallery. No, the point is that HM itself, as in the game dialog and everything, is already the story being told by Kokoro. We never saw the real events in the first place. The newspaper is the Greek Chorus.
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Oct 8, 2014 17:23
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Clarste posted:No, the point is that HM itself, as in the game dialog and everything, is already the story being told by Kokoro. We never saw the real events in the first place. The newspaper is the Greek Chorus. Where do you even get that idea? Pretty sure the events of the game happened as shown in it and it's just that both the game and the play Kokoro does are named Shinkirou. FractalSandwich posted:How does ZUN feel about underage drinking?  From Mountain of Faith.
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Oct 9, 2014 00:41
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a cartoon duck posted:Where do you even get that idea? Pretty sure the events of the game happened as shown in it and it's just that both the game and the play Kokoro does are named Shinkirou. The writing style of the game is quite different from previous games, most notably the characters being exaggerated. For example Nitori being completely money-obsessed at the expense of everything else, or Miko going full on supervillain with the cape. Koishi's more childish, Futo's more oblivious, etc. Kokoro herself is also shown as a tragic heroine. So... I guess you could say I got the idea from the fact that the play Shinkirou is described in ways that also describe the game quite well. But that would be a lie because the idea was floating around even earlier than that and I took FS as confirmation... Well, it's also related to the nature of the entire game as "putting on a show". Heck, you could even call it the only game that actually has a real story with character development and everything. That said, feel free to dismiss it as a crazy theory. Clarste fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Oct 9, 2014 |
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Oct 9, 2014 00:56
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If Miko going full Evil Overlord, complete with dramatic cape flourishes, evil laughs, and dynamic poses surrounded in sparkles was supposed to a dramatic exaggeration then I don't think I can enjoy canon anymore. Also, Nitori turning out to be a huge rear end in a top hat, Byakuren being really bad at acting like a peace-loving priest and Ichirin actually getting a character were also nice. SyntheticPolygon fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Oct 9, 2014 |
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Oct 9, 2014 01:16
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Does bkub still go to NY ComicCon? I remember buying from him two years ago, but I seem to have missed him last year. I can't imagine it's profitable.
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Oct 9, 2014 01:17
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To be fair, everyone always forgets that Nitori was also an rear end in a top hat in SA.
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Oct 9, 2014 01:26
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Clarste posted:To be fair, everyone always forgets that Nitori was also an rear end in a top hat in SA. Everyone is an rear end in a top hat in Gensokyo it just wasn't until HM that the fans realised Nitori was.
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Oct 9, 2014 01:38
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Ichirin actually getting a character were also nice. I think I missed this.
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Oct 9, 2014 04:22
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Behold: a testament to my eternal manchild. Akyu's Untouched Records are basically the PC-98 games okay gently caress decimal games Also FMW3 comes with some really silly trading cards.
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Oct 9, 2014 04:29
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BlitzBlast posted:Akyu's Untouched Records are basically the PC-98 games Wait, you can get those? Is it for Windows? It'd be nice not having to deal with an emulator
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Oct 9, 2014 05:20
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WarpedNaba posted:I think I missed this. Well, I mean Touhou has never been known for deep and complex characters but she was more than the non-entity she was before. She was generally well-meaning and nice but still pretty pumped about beating up heretics. Also very prone to missing the obvious, somehow not noticing that the eerie mask youkai she was talking to and the entire village putting on a Noh performance were not connected. I think it's interesting just because she was pretty much the opposite to how the fandom portrays her. She also inspired Kokoro to earn The Title of The Strongest so she was pretty cool.
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Oct 9, 2014 05:23
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Justus posted:Wait, you can get those? Is it for Windows? It'd be nice not having to deal with an emulator They're just music CDs with the soundtracks.
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Oct 9, 2014 05:24
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Justus posted:Wait, you can get those? Is it for Windows? It'd be nice not having to deal with an emulator No, but it's not like the PC-98 emulator is hard to set up or anything.
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Oct 9, 2014 05:27
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Elliotw2 posted:No, but it's not like the PC-98 emulator is hard to set up or anything. Patching the games to English though takes a bit more effort.
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Oct 9, 2014 13:34
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I've started on the Touhou music collections again because I'm tired of the 80-some-odd gig folder of music wasting space on my hard drive. Great then that the first thing I open is a half dozen albums of uncompressed MIDIs that take up a full half a gig. Into the loving trash with that, except two vocal tracks that were so unbelievably bad I had to keep them for Booby Prize Folder Mark II
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Oct 24, 2014 17:06
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You can't patch the PC-98 games to english though (unless something changed very recently?) The main menu is easy enough to understand, and the story is now non-canon, so you're not missing a lot.
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Oct 24, 2014 17:12
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Something did change recently. I even posted about it here. Let me dig up the post.HGH posted:EDIT: Don't really wanna double post but someone finally bothered making English patches for all the PC-98 games. Comes with a ton of trivia. The script can be worth a couple laughs even if it's got nothing to do with future games anymore.
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Oct 24, 2014 18:30
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Captain Invictus posted:I've started on the Touhou music collections again because I'm tired of the 80-some-odd gig folder of music wasting space on my hard drive.  I love musical Russian roulette. I kind of love lovely MIDIs too, but I won't ask you to upload them or keep them around in any way shape or form.Has there been any news regarding Touhou coming out in the west? I remember there being some talk about it a while ago but I didn't really pay attention and I don't really know what's up with it now. I'm assuming no English language Steam/GoG/Whatever release on the horizon?
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Oct 24, 2014 18:30
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DDC is on Playism now, so you can buy it legally here. Still in Japanese, though.
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Oct 24, 2014 18:46
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On that note, does anyone know if there's an offline translation patch for DDC? I run things on a Mac, and thcrap configure's window just freaks the gently caress out whenever I try to run it in Wine.
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Oct 24, 2014 18:50
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I have been trying to one cc ufo on normal recently so somebody please give me the pro tips to beat it. I can usually get to Murasa with full lives and a couple bombs but then I just fall to pieces during her final card and I can't can get ufos that I want on the next two stages because there is too much poo poo on the screen to see their color, much less get them while they are the right colors. The furthest I have gotten is Byakuren's spellcard with the curving lasers that go horizontal across the screen which completely ruins what resources I have left because I can't even see when I am about to get hit to do a preemptive bomb.
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Oct 25, 2014 01:24
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If you're just aiming for the 1cc and don't give a gently caress about score, only get red ufos or green ufos. And use your bombs judiciously! With the red ufo strategy, you get so many freaking extra lives, and each one gets three bombs! If you're eating it without using all your bombs, develop a looser trigger finger for bombing. It's cheap, but it works.
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Oct 25, 2014 02:03
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Nages posted:I have been trying to one cc ufo on normal recently so somebody please give me the pro tips to beat it. The trick to Murasa's last spellcard is to keep moving acrosss the full border of the screen, that way you only have to deal with each set of ripples individually, and when you don't have to deal with overlapping ripples it's actually pretty easy. The thing about stages four and five is that they spawn a ton more UFOs, but it's often wiser to just resist their siren's call because they'll be hidden in patterns that are either very easy to stream or just easy to dodge as long as you stick to the bottom of the screen. On a particularly good run you will probably end with full lives before hitting Murasa, and while full bombs are nice and don't reset down to 2 if you have more, they reset back up to 2 if you have less so you probably don't wanna sacrifice a life only to get only half a life or a bomb. What I usually do for Byakuren's maelstrom spellcard is that I align myself directly under her and only move vertically. The four stars she shoots aim on your current position, so if you move up or down after they spawn they won't hit you. The only trick is to familiarise with those curving lasers because it's pretty hard to intuit or predict safe spots at first, so I guess you just gotta stick to it and get used to them.
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Oct 25, 2014 14:25
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I beat it, thanks for the advice. http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=35060 Got to Shou with full lives and lost three almost immediately without bombing because I am good at video games. The Byakuren fight was won by pretty much bombing through everything and came down to the wire. Next on the list is SA (I can barely get past Yuugi).
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Oct 26, 2014 20:20
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Captain Invictus posted:I've started on the Touhou music collections again because I'm tired of the 80-some-odd gig folder of music wasting space on my hard drive. My 2nd favourite genre of touhou remixes are the ones that are Britney Spears songs. Putting in a request for more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKOINZZ5J6k
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Oct 29, 2014 05:55
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If we're doing music requests I wanna know if there is an arrange of Satori's theme that goes full JRPG Final Boss with it. vvv  Looks like I have another circle to check out!
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Oct 29, 2014 23:43
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Tonfa posted:If we're doing music requests I wanna know if there is an arrange of Satori's theme that goes full JRPG Final Boss with it. This is literally a thing that exists, it's literally 3rd eye combined with a JRPG final boss theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ4-TvwCso4
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Oct 30, 2014 00:01
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Surely there are some more kicking rad 3rd Eye remixes. Maybe?
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Oct 30, 2014 04:32
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Of course there is, 3rd Eye is one of the best songs in the series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNb6POcT_1Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNla4uk7AYY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CBW5uwPpbA
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Oct 30, 2014 04:40
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3rd eye is actually the best song.
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