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XboxPants posted:Man, what are you guys on about? He probably could have worded it better than "you will never stand a chance" though.
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Namtab posted:He probably could have worded it better than "you will never stand a chance" though. Yeah that's totally fair. I took that as just a part of the rushed ending and was alright with it because of that, but that's not really an in-universe excuse.
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Apr 19, 2014 19:47
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Keima's kind of a blunt rear end in a top hat. v v
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Apr 19, 2014 19:48
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Keima is incredibly intelligent and understands it's better for people to have a clean break rather than false hope.
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Boogaleeboo posted:Keima is incredibly intelligent and understands it's better for people to have a clean break rather than false hope. He should've crushed 7 year-old Tenri hopes then or at least he should've told her personally. And discounting how much of an rear end in a top hat Keima is there's a lot of problems with the ending itself: - Why keep the goddesses on earth? (and that's if Diana wasn't the only one that stayed as an ultimate gently caress you to Tenri) - What's gonna happen with Dokaido now? - Urara and Kaori plots were a total waste of time - The whole Ellie Deus Ex Machina thing - Why Haqua and Nora are still on earth if the runaway squad went kaput - How the gently caress is New Hell gonna work now... gently caress, and I really liked this series 
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Apr 19, 2014 20:15
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Elsie drove a huge spiritual fire engine around and neatly caught all the millions of runaway spirits that were in other places. She then made the fire engine alive so that he could prevent them from ever escaping, thus meaning the goddesses no longer had to be the barrier. With there being no more need for the runaway squad Haqua and Nora are free to chill out and help that one lady with her deliveries. They wind up taking over that company. The goddesses just chill with each other, goddesses like chilling out so no problems there. I think that solves everything.
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Apr 19, 2014 20:23
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:He should've crushed 7 year-old Tenri hopes then or at least he should've told her personally. Tenri keeping Diana isn't really a gently caress you even if she was the only one. Was it not made obvious through out the entire series that Diana was the one who was in love with Keima far more than Tenri herself? That's why Diana was the one pushing and pushing and taking over Tenri's body to force the issue, also why she didn't get her wings until after Tenri told Diana about the contents of the Letter Keima gave her. Tenri had already accepted her eventual fate, and thus didn't go for it like the other goddesses hosts did. Tenri's love was shown by what she was willing to do to help Keima. Dokaido no longer has to stay around to watch over Keima, as he's completed the game. As a human she's probably going to go do whatever it is humans do. Elsie's thing was rushed and shoehorned in a bit, though their was some foreshadowing it just wasn't very good(Elsie getting attacked). Haqua and Nora are still on earth because they were the ones fighting the big giant loving demons. They just forgot that Elsie ever existed. Elsie didn't retcon everything she just retconned her being a member of the runaway spirit squad. The series was literally never about Nora or Haqua unless their paths crossed with whatever Keima was trying to do. They literally resolved the Hell plot in the Goddess arc in like a page and off panel in the middle of a chapter, and never speak of it again.
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Apr 19, 2014 20:42
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That's my point, Wakaki could've put a few panels with Nora, Haqua and Rymuel leading New Hell, omit Diana appearance to imply the goddesses returned to heaven and just put all the former hosts hanging around without remembering Keima.
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Apr 19, 2014 21:18
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:That's my point, Wakaki could've put a few panels with Nora, Haqua and Rymuel leading New Hell, omit Diana appearance to imply the goddesses returned to heaven and just put all the former hosts hanging around without remembering Keima. What happened with New Hell literally doesn't mean poo poo to Wakaki, New Hell only mattered when it crossed paths with Keima. Once Keima lost the necklace his contract was fulfilled, and thus New Hell no longer matters to the plot. Just like what happened in that battle in the goddess arc didn't matter so it got rushed through. He had a scene with Tenri because out of all of the girls, she was the only one who had any amount of development as a character. And was essentially the heroine of the series. If Tenri has Diana it's safe to assume the other girls have theirs as well. It's just that Tenri and Diana have been together for years and years, So Diana talks to Tenri far more than the other Goddesses talk to their host.
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I don't know why anyone thinks Diana still being with Tenri is any kind of "gently caress you" to her. http://manga.redhawkscans.com/reader/read/the_world_god_only_knows/en/0/268/page/25 Unless I'm reading her words wrong, Diana is explicitly saying she's going to stay with Tenri until Tenri can find her own happiness. There's also nothing to suggest that the other goddesses are even still around since we don't see them. I feel like this is Diana choosing to stay with Tenri for the time being. I agree that it feels rushed, but it could have been so much worse. Personally, I can't wait to see what Wakaki is going to do next.
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Apr 19, 2014 21:59
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Diana and Tenri are best friends. It would be pretty cruel if she left. Diana almost certainly means more to Tenri than Keima does, because they've spent the last ten years together.
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Sleeping Sigma posted:Diana is explicitly saying she's going to stay with Tenri until Tenri can find her own happiness Spoilers: Tenri will never be happy
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Apr 19, 2014 22:29
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I'm not sure I buy the idea that "New Hell doesn't matter Wakaki doesn't care" considering he went to the trouble of making a series of encoded glyphs/writing for their language and stuffed those easter eggs everywhere. Maybe he stopped caring. Maybe someone was behind him with a gun saying "That's right, big smile, everybody's happy" when he announced the end. I honestly don't know which, but I wouldn't rule out either.
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Zogundar posted:I'm not sure I buy the idea that "New Hell doesn't matter Wakaki doesn't care" considering he went to the trouble of making a series of encoded glyphs/writing for their language and stuffed those easter eggs everywhere. Not so much not matter to Wakaki as not matter to the story being told, Keima never interacted with it directly so it is outside the narrative. Like his Dad, it has effects on the story but actually seeing either is not an integral part of the Story being told.
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Apr 20, 2014 02:07
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The only ending that matters and didn't happen is Elsie getting herself a fire truck. Everything else is not important. 
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Man that was an abrupt ending. The thing with Elsie felt like it was a huge thing that could spiral anywhere, hinted at for weeks when she disappeared, and it was wrapped up within half an issue. Actually pretty much everything after Kaori felt like nonsense. I loved the past arc, but once that was resolved it was like 6 months of just... nothing. Grown up Dokurou was cool, but there was nothing else at all.
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Petiso posted:Sure, it's possible, but that's not how it usually works. If you have a series that's been going at glacial pace for months suddenly rushing for the ending while awkardly trying to fit undeveloped plot points (yes, Elsie) editorial meddling is a lot more plausible than an author outburst. I suspect that the editorial meddling was in *extending* the series in the first place. It seemed pretty clear that Wakaki expected to end it at the end of the Goddesses release. I do agree that the pacing has been glacially slow since then. Sad really. Pacing had been one of Wakaki's strong points--he had a real gift for closing a thread at almost exactly the right time. He could have put in some very nice storylines while still heading to the ending. Shrug. That doesn't bode well for a new series though ...
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Apr 20, 2014 07:47
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Elsie was a better Kanon than Kanon ever was. gently caress Kanon's inexplicable popularity.
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So, the series finally ended. And hell yeah for Chihiro ending; She was my favorite of the lot.
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Started reading this on a recommendation recently, about 50 chapters in and it's a real fun read so far! I still think the premise is pretty creepy/weird(wooing them, saving them with a kiss, and then they forget everything, though maybe that will change with recent "revelations"? Probably not) but it's still amusing and the cutesy way Elsie goes super-deformed is hilarious. Also her obsession with fire trucks.
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You're in luck because it gets better. ('till around chapter 189). I'm interested in hearing your opinion on the final arc after that as you can blitz through it without waiting and I'm wondering how that affects it. I'd recommend watching the anime as well. Maybe after chapter 189.
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May 4, 2014 02:55
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May 4, 2014 03:26
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If it's not on the retroactively series-ruining level of Usagi Drop's manga finale arc, I will probably just finish it since I tend to not leave things unread.
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Nah, it's just obviously rushed. Well, it'll start out slow, doing the usual thing of building and setting up plot points, and then suddenly the plot speeds to the ending the moment the manga is announced to be ending.
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That's unfortunate but not the end of the world. Just finished chapter 64, it'd be nice to have another more constant character aside from Elsie, Katsuragi, and mom. And she has a neat gimmick. Nora and Ryou seem to be the Team Rocket for TWGOK, wonder if they'll show up a bunch. I really liked the sudden shift to Elsie returning home to hell and interacting naturally with most everyone too. Still cute, and Elsie still rules.  Edit, it's exposition time, it's exposition time! Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 05:56 on May 4, 2014 |
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Captain Invictus posted:That's unfortunate but not the end of the world. I'm enjoying your updates as a new reader, please keep posting them.  I'd also be interested to hear what you think of the various girls, who you think is interesting/lame/etc.
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May 4, 2014 06:27
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Poor ramen girl gets forgotten
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HiveCommander posted:Poor ramen girl gets forgotten Just finished that one and it really reminded me of Ranma with the awful food. It was a good one but a bit disposable and had too little Elsie.
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Keima throwing up his own skull from being so mortified at Elsie's terrible explanation of what his job is to Diana got me guffawing. I don't really like him as a character but his reactions are priceless.
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I'm not sure when it happened specifically but I think Keima grew into a pretty decent lead. Mostly with how he was so much more competent and genre savvy about everything than anyone else. I want to say this really amped up during the goddess arc. By the way, the first two seasons of the anime are very good and worth watching even if you're reading the manga. Or at least for the OPs.
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May 4, 2014 18:25
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Body swap storyline, this is about the point I'd say a series is running out of ideas, but I figure there's plenty more good stuff ahead past this.
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May 4, 2014 20:32
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Captain Invictus posted:Body swap storyline, this is about the point I'd say a series is running out of ideas, but I figure there's plenty more good stuff ahead past this. Best Arc, Best Girl.
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:Best Arc, Best Girl. I don't follow the anime, did that arc get the treatment it deserves? Really just the best.
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cafel posted:I don't follow the anime, did that arc get the treatment it deserves? Really just the best. Nope it was skipped over to get to the goddess arc
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May 4, 2014 21:11
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We needed a Yui spinoff instead of a Kanon one.
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Captain Invictus posted:Body swap storyline, this is about the point I'd say a series is running out of ideas, but I figure there's plenty more good stuff ahead past this. If you don't love Yui and Girl Keima then how do you live with yourself?
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cafel posted:I don't follow the anime, did that arc get the treatment it deserves? Really just the best. Man I miss this manga. It may have lost its way a little but I never stopped loving it. ActionZero fucked around with this message at 00:51 on May 5, 2014 |
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ActionZero posted:It got approximately 20 seconds of Keima saying something like "I captured Yui, we swapped bodies but I succeeded in the end" or something along those lines. The third anime was really good Then again, I don't particularly care about Yui or any other girl outside of Haqua, Ayumi, Tenri and Kanon v v
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:The third anime was really good To this day I do not understand what people like about Ayumi or Kanon. Also not liking Yui is an objectively wrong opinion.
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:Best Arc, Best Girl. Yeah after reading it it was actually really good for a body swap thing. Most of them are really bland but that was fantastic and has the best ending.  Great reaction faces I love the tamagotchi-mouth faces the artist draws.
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