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psychokitty
Jun 29, 2010


Hannibal premiers April 4 on NBC at 10 pm EST. Biggest question: it's on NBC; can it be good? It's from the producer of Heroes so let's hope so. UPDATE: it is loving good and got renewed for a second season, surprisingly also on NBC.

First Look: http://www.nbc.com/hannibal/video/h...st-look/n33440/
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2243973/

You've all seen The Silence of the Lambs, I hope. This is the story of what happened before Clarice (think Red Dragon). Here's what NBC has to say about their new show:

quote:

One of the most fascinating literary characters comes to life on television for the first time: psychiatrist-turned-serial-killer, Dr. Hannibal Lecter. In this new drama from Bryan Fuller ("Pushing Daisies," "Heroes"), based on the characters from Thomas Harris' classic novels, we see where this incredible story began.

Will Graham (Hugh Dancy, "The Big C") is a gifted criminal profiler who is on the hunt for a serial killer with the FBI. Graham's unique way of thinking gives him the astonishing ability to empathize with anyone - even psychopaths. He seems to know what makes them tick. But when the mind of the twisted killer he's pursuing is too complicated for even Will to comprehend, he enlists the help of Dr. Lecter, one of the premier psychiatric minds in the country. Armed with the uncanny expertise of the brilliant doctor, Will and Hannibal (known as a serial killer only to the audience) form a brilliant partnership and it seems there's no villain they can't catch. If Will only knew...

Fuller is a writer and an executive producer. Martha De Laurentiis ("Red Dragon," "Hannibal"), Sara Colleton ("Dexter"), Jesse Alexander ("Lost," "Heroes") and Katie O'Connell also serve as executive producers. David Slade is the director/executive producer for the series pilot. "Hannibal" is produced by Gaumont International Television.

The cast:

See that guy on the right? That's Hannibal.

That's this guy:

Mads Mikkelsen - bad guy in Casino Royale, badass in Valhalla Rising. He's my #2 reason for being excited about this show (#1 is the story it's based on, derr).

Some teenage girls might care that Hugh Dancy is playing the lead role of FBI profiler, Will Graham.


Lots of people will care that Morpheus is playing the head of the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit.


I am really looking forward to the series premier next week. Early reviews look good.

psychokitty fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2013 around 17:54

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vyst
Aug 25, 2009

Ask me about getting into Goonwaffe early or not taking too long to answer your emails!

I am with you - I am totally watching this to see Mads Mikkelsen chew up the scenery.

psychokitty
Jun 29, 2010


vyst posted:

I am with you - I am totally watching this to see Mads Mikkelsen chew up the scenery.

I have such a ladyboner for him.

Bung Harmer
Jun 20, 2004
Appalachian Hillbilly Dumbass, Fucked in the Head, Needs Help


If this show is more like Manhunter and less like Red Dragon then I'm totally on board.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Alan Sepinwall has been tweeting about this and is very favourable toward it. I think they've sent the first 4 episode out to critics and despite some apparently iffy plotting it's still very good.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008


I think its cool that they are focusing on a story that is actually canon to Thomas Harris' novels. In Red Dragon Will Graham is a profiler who is already severely damaged by his previous "work" with Lechter, but they(Harris or any of the films) never really go into much detail about how it all went down. When I first heard about this I assumed it would just be random Adventures of Hannibal Lechter episodes without much connection to original characters.

muscles like this?
Jan 17, 2005

BOGGLE?



Basebf555 posted:

I think its cool that they are focusing on a story that is actually canon to Thomas Harris' novels. In Red Dragon Will Graham is a profiler who is already severely damaged by his previous "work" with Lechter, but they(Harris or any of the films) never really go into much detail about how it all went down. When I first heard about this I assumed it would just be random Adventures of Hannibal Lechter episodes without much connection to original characters.

Well in Red Dragon he mentions consulting with Hannibal about ONE case before he figured out that Dr Lecter was also a serial killer.

In a weird move former "Kids in the Hall" actor Scott Thompson is also in this as a crime scene tech. Also starring (but not shown in that cast image) is Gina Torres.

From the trailer they've released it looks like this show is going to be super gory which is surprising for a network show.

Paradox Personified
Mar 15, 2010

SoroScrew


God, I hope this is going to be good, considering this network's track record. I'm sticking it out either way though, big fan of the books and movies.

Hollow Hills
Jan 27, 2013

by Y Kant Ozma Post


This could be so, so good. I've read all the books and they're really going to benefit from America's stupid as hell backwards gore/violence vs sex stance. There's very little sex/adult language in the books so it won't be severely neutered for NBC, but for some reason we don't have a problem seeing people get chopped up and brutally murdered.

On the other hand it could easily be Criminal Minds CSI Edition 2.0, so it's hard to get my hopes up too far.

psychokitty
Jun 29, 2010


Paradox Personified posted:

God, I hope this is going to be good, considering this network's track record. I'm sticking it out either way though, big fan of the books and movies.

Yeah we were super confused at the end of the commercial when it said "on NBC" instead of FX or AMC. But hey, NBC has had a few victories over the years, so I'm still hopeful.

Occupation
Jan 18, 2009

Oh, no, no! My friend is gonna kill you.
I'm just gonna watch.


Regardless of whether or not this show is brilliant this show is DOA, so just be forewarned this is at best a one-season wonder.

Also I just realized that between this and Bates Motel there's this weird "backstory to a serial killer" thing that's kind of a trend on spring 2013 TV.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.



Wow, Mads Mikkelsen definitely has my interest, and the preview looked pretty drat good. I am a bit worried about how restricted they'll be by being on NBC though. This has a hell of a lot of potential.

Carbon Thief
Oct 11, 2009


Occupation posted:

Regardless of whether or not this show is brilliant this show is DOA, so just be forewarned this is at best a one-season wonder.

Why do you say that? Because there's only so long the story can be before he gets caught, or have they already announced its cancellation?

J-Spot
May 6, 2002

I got 99 problems but a witch ain't one.



Carbon Thief posted:

Why do you say that? Because there's only so long the story can be before he gets caught, or have they already announced its cancellation?

NBC fails at everything, and the time slot has been particularly problematic for them. They also don't seem to have a lot of faith in this one as far as I can tell. They were talking about burning it off during the summer until Do No Harm tanked. Still, the bar for renewal on NBC is ridiculously low, so if the show is at all decent it may pull through.

Crackpipe
Jul 9, 2001



Ellen Muth of Dead Like Me fame is going to make an appearance as a character named... wait for it... Georgia.

Carbon Thief
Oct 11, 2009


J-Spot posted:

NBC fails at everything, and the time slot has been particularly problematic for them. They also don't seem to have a lot of faith in this one as far as I can tell. They were talking about burning it off during the summer until Do No Harm tanked. Still, the bar for renewal on NBC is ridiculously low, so if the show is at all decent it may pull through.

drat, I just noticed it's on at the same time as the only other current show I've been watching, Elementary. Also I never really realized how lovely NBC's lineup is lately. I haven't watched anything of theirs since they cancelled Law & Order.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



Gillian Anderson is also going to be in this (though as a psychologist, and sadly not an FBI agent).

skycake
Aug 29, 2009



If they can preserve the same class for Hannibal Lector that has been portrayed by past movies, then it should be for good TV.

Carbon Thief
Oct 11, 2009


skycake posted:

If they can preserve the same class for Hannibal Lecter that has been portrayed by past movies, then it should be for good TV.

Based on the promo trailers I've been watching, it looks like they're doing a pretty good job.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

It's Easy Being Greene

The more I see of the Hannibal Lecter character the more I wish I watched just Silence of the Lambs and didn't see or read anything else. But it seems interesting enough and maybe I can replace the crap that is The Following with this

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Again, Sepinwall, was talking about how all of a sudden it's on the deathslot at NBC. It used to be a killer slot, but now it's where they're sending shows to die. I hope it succeeds because that trailer looks fantastic but...it likely won't.

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009
There were roving packs of female bandits who burn houses and farms they come across and kill the men they meet (and free the women) save for one---a mentally-retarded hulk they call Dog, who pulls their cart like a horse would (harness and the whole thing, only just a whip; he's too tall for a bit in the mouth) and serves as sex toy when they're bored.

Echoing the desperate hope that this show fulfills its potential---and that it blows away whatever low bar expectations the execs had for it.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

not all who wander are lost


Mikkelsen is a really nice choice for Lecter but everything else about this screams "rubbish" to me. Not seeing this making past the first season, if even that. NBC and people who were involved with both Heroes and Dexter are huge warning signs as far as I'm concerned.

psychokitty
Jun 29, 2010


Stare-Out posted:

Mikkelsen is a really nice choice for Lecter but everything else about this screams "rubbish" to me. Not seeing this making past the first season, if even that. NBC and people who were involved with both Heroes and Dexter are huge warning signs as far as I'm concerned.

Heroes and Dexter were both great shows once upon a time. I'll take a few great seasons and a couple of bad ones over nothing at all.

I've decided to approach Hannibal as if it is a mini-series. So if we only get one season, that's all I will have expected.

Occupation
Jan 18, 2009

Oh, no, no! My friend is gonna kill you.
I'm just gonna watch.


Carbon Thief posted:

Why do you say that? Because there's only so long the story can be before he gets caught, or have they already announced its cancellation?

Because the premiere got pushed back and pushed back and pushed back and now it's airing in the beginning of April to June which is basically a summer burn-off, NBC can't launch anything right, the timeslot it's launching in is terrible, it's gotten little-to-no press coverage...

Oh, and they pushed and pushed back the premiere of Hannibal whilst NBC was literally losing to Univision in Feb sweeps. That means they had more faith in the shows pulling literal 1.0 ratings and completely nosediving than in the series premiere of this show, in the one month where ratings are most important.

Basically NBC has NO FAITH that this show is gonna succeed. If they did they'd make it pull a Revolution and air right behind the second night of The Voice. They're not, they're airing it in a graveyard for dramas timeslot. It's completely, utterly dead on arrival.

Cart Cam
Jan 10, 2013


Occupation posted:

Also I just realized that between this and Bates Motel there's this weird "backstory to a serial killer" thing that's kind of a trend on spring 2013 TV.

If they both turn out to be good shows then it could be interesting to see how it affects the portrayals of the characters in the future.

minute
Jul 31, 2003



I read the title and was hoping to see Hannibal Barca kicking some Roman rear end.

J-Spot
May 6, 2002

I got 99 problems but a witch ain't one.



Occupation posted:

Basically NBC has NO FAITH that this show is gonna succeed. If they did they'd make it pull a Revolution and air right behind the second night of The Voice. They're not, they're airing it in a graveyard for dramas timeslot. It's completely, utterly dead on arrival.
That lack of faith can mean one of two things. Either this show is so bad that even NBC in all their ineptitude acknowledge it as such, or the NBC execs are so bad that they failed to recognize the one show they had this season that was actually worthwhile.

Occupation
Jan 18, 2009

Oh, no, no! My friend is gonna kill you.
I'm just gonna watch.


J-Spot posted:

That lack of faith can mean one of two things. Either this show is so bad that even NBC in all their ineptitude acknowledge it as such, or the NBC execs are so bad that they failed to recognize the one show they had this season that was actually worthwhile.

Or, it's good/great but unmarketable and gonna pull horrendous numbers so NBC was ahead of the game and used it as "schedule spackle", to steal your turn of phrase

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010



WhyteRyce posted:

The more I see of the Hannibal Lecter character the more I wish I watched just Silence of the Lambs and didn't see or read anything else. But it seems interesting enough and maybe I can replace the crap that is The Following with this

Pretty much. It was better he was an enigma.

Carbon Thief
Oct 11, 2009


TOOT BOOT posted:

Pretty much. It was better he was an enigma.

I wish I could watch Silence of the Lambs for the first time again. That moment again when Starling gets to the end of the hallway and you see the "monster; pure psychopath" that they've been talking about up to that point and he's perfectly calm and polite.

Hakkesshu
Nov 3, 2009

All creature will die and all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai.


Just to be clear, this is deliberately not affiliated with any of the other Lecter continuities, right? It looks set in modern day, for one, which wouldn't fit with his age.

I'm pretty much only interested in it because of Mads Mikkelsen. Though as a Danish person I'm kind of disappointed that his accent hasn't improved at all since he broke through. You can clearly hear the thick Copenhagen drawl on him still.

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Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

Cannot run out of time. There is infinite time. You are finite. Zathras is finite.


This looks pretty fantastic, if it's actually any good then I sincerely hope that it isn't a one season wonder.
But, it's NBC... it's probably going to be.

Mads Mikkelsen as Hannibal just feels so... right.

soapgish
Mar 17, 2013

__________


The singular reason I will be tuning in every week is also the one thing about the show devoid of logic: Bryan Fuller.

Not to say that he's no good or superfluous, but I see no reason for him to be behind this than an attempt to be given another original program. And from all the promotional materials so far, it seems he was wanted just so they could use his PUSHING DAISIES textile printer given the wardrobe and set design all carry his flair.

Still a little bothered that Mads dropped out from THOR 2 because his schedule for this indubitably single season show wouldn't permit him to use this time to advance his career, but here's hoping my devastatingly accurate knowledge of NBC being a mindless turnkey allows this program to escape it's mayfly destiny.

chesh
Apr 19, 2004

That was terrible.


soapgish posted:

The singular reason I will be tuning in every week is also the one thing about the show devoid of logic: Bryan Fuller.=

This is pretty much the only reason I've added this to my Hulu queue. I still wish they'd never cancelled Pushing Daisies/never cancelled Wonderfalls/pushed Mockingbird Lane to production.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005


Sepinwall put his review up:

Sepinwall posted:

Earlier this year, as we welcomed FOX's "The Following" and A&E's "Bates Motel" to a blood-soaked TV landscape that already included "Criminal Minds," "Dexter," "Luther" and other shows that at least dabble in the serial killer arts, I wondered if perhaps I was simply tired of the whole genre. We were a couple of decades removed from "Silence of the Lambs," and it seemed like every single trope of serial killer fiction had been explored, made into cliche, and rendered unpleasant.

Then I watched NBC's creepy, haunting, smart, utterly gorgeous new series "Hannibal" yet another Hannibal Lecter project, no less and realized that it's not the genre that had gotten tired, but the execution of it. I went into "Hannibal" (it debuts tomorrow night at 10) dreading it and came away five episodes later thrilled by it.

The full review is here http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-wa...e-lambs-prequel

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008


I watched Valhalla Rising recently and Mikkelson is so incredible in that. I don't watch a whole lot of indie movies, and you'd have to convince me to watch one with a protagonist who doesn't speak the entire film(I didn't know that going in), but goddamn did he pull it off. Its almost like he's actually saying words sometimes without saying anything, amazing.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

make em go ah, ah, ah

The Following has basically broken my spirit, so if this show is anything more substantial than 44 minutes of Mads Mikkelsen pooping his pants I will find it very impressive.

BIG CITY LAWYER
Sep 15, 2004
This is not my beautiful wife!

I'm looking forward to the 13 or whatever episodes of this we will get! Sorry Fuller, I have zero faith in any of your shows ever lasting.

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Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

"I'd like to make a boo-boo report."



BIG CITY LAWYER posted:

I'm looking forward to the 13 or whatever episodes of this we will get! Sorry Fuller, I have zero faith in any of your shows ever lasting.

Bryan Fuller is basically the best TV poison there is. He's a lot like the character he created in Pushing Daisies. He can bring something to life but only for a bit and then it's gotta go.

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