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tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Monaghan posted:

You're right on that point, but natsu seemed to be getting in a couple of decent hits last chapter, and then rogue just powered up and kicked his rear end. It makes sense why it happened, still a little suprising to me though.

I'm kind of curious what'll happen now that probably Zeref's shadow has started to possess Natsu. Will he somehow end up a shadow lightning fire dragonslayer? Will Gajeel end up a light earth metal dragonslayer to keep up?

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tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

That is certainly one element of the fanservice going on this chapter. Can't wait to see if any Dragon Slayers will actually live up to their names. And what will that do to the past?

I was more impressed by their sheer size on the first double page spread. Those are some big rear end dragons. Loving the designs too though. I wonder what kind of different powers the ones that make it through the portal will have? Though I am kind of curious what was just supposed to have happened to Natsu as well.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

PFlats posted:

The mangastream version is out, and they did a sliiiiiiightly better job with that line.

I'd say that Mangastream made it sound about as natural as it's possible for it to sound without just skipping it entirely. The stupidity in their version isn't the line, it's that future Rogue never cottoned on that that might be a major weakness given he's a dragonslayer himself and he was going back in time to talk to a guild with several dragonslayers in it. I'm not sure how you think they could have made it sound better to be honest, and someone had to point it out eventually really, even if just to shock the non-dragonslayers out of the fugue caused by the Master's defeat (well, not really defeat so much as complete lack of effect) and the sheer fear enemies of that size/legendary status would naturally inspire.

Also, I remembered calling that Sting and Rogue killed their dragons at the dragon's own behest rather than because they were particularly cruel or something and looked it up in the old thread. Can't quote it since the thread is closed, but it's here for anyone who gives a poo poo, and nearly a year ago now. And was up to day 4 of the games by then even. Has this arc really gone on that long? Holy poo poo. Although this does answer where Natsu (and Wendy, Gajeel etc.) are getting their next power up since they presumably have never hurt or killed an actual dragon to the point of bloodying them seriously.

attackbunny posted:

Is that Cobra's prison uniform? Does the Magic Council outfit all its prisoners in snakeskin-patterned trousers and furry coats? "Oh man yeah make the tops of the sleeves all poofy like, that'll make them feel dead oppressed." Are the MC's prison inmates allowed to wear their own clothes? Does that mean that Gerard's prison getup not including a shirt was by personal choice? "Hey, Fernandes, you want to put a shirt on? Seriously we got loads you can have like eight." "No, I think I'll get more screen time if I'm providing fanservice."

Maybe he only went with them on the condition he could have his clothes back. He could be a very fashion conscious dude who missed his duds all those months in jail wearing the same ugly poo poo as everyone else.

tsob fucked around with this message at 20:09 on May 4, 2013

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Gyges posted:

The set it up and more or less spelled out exactly what was going to happen, and I still laughed pretty good at destroying the nigh unbreakable gate by punching a dragon into it.

I was kind of disappointed even though I was expecting to see someone crash a dragon through it after the first few pages, because (a) I expected someone to say that property damage was Fairy Tail's forte and breaking a gate would be nothing and (b) that none of the others helped in any way - just Natsu. That last one is kind of par for the course though so I can't be too upset, but I'm still a little disappointed no-one said anything.

tsob fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Jun 22, 2013

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
So wait, what happened at the end? Was that supposed to be a different version of Lucy or something to say that they were suddenly outside the city? Future her? I'm honestly kind of lost on that point. Also, they say not one of them managed to defeat a dragon, but Natsu did. It was unconscious on the ground last I checked, which sounds like defeat to me.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
The end of the chapter seems to suggest to me that she died in Gray's arms. The fact that he's crying, she's saying goodbye and talking about how she was happy to be alive for the first time while sunlight streams over her all suggest that to me at least. I think it was a nice way to have her die but not die without anyone realizing or being able to confirm it basically. I do find it odd on the other hand that a low level council member was able to brainwash all the others to simply forget everything that happened. Seems a bit off a cop-off. Not that it should be surprising in Fairy Tail, but still.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Bernardo Orel posted:

Chapters 338, 339 and 340 are out. Looks like the final arc is starting - Fairy Tail vs Zeref

God drat it. I hate villains whose motivation is that people aren't all sunshine and rainbow loving teddybears so the only possible solution is killing them. It's just such a retarded idea by any standard. Even Gundam falls victim to it thanks to CCA (and G, Wing & AGE). Oh no, everyone in the world didn't miraculously change in just over a decade - time to drop an asteroid and kill them all as punishment for being human. I'm still going to read it, because the overall plot makes barely any difference in Fairy Tail and there's even a good chance I'll forget what it is for many chapters given how little bearing it'll have, but I just wanted to rant on how much I hate that motivation for a few seconds.

By the way, when did their Guild get destroyed or whatever? Don't recall that at all.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Angry Grimace posted:

I actually don't understand why Gray is such a dick to Juvia in the first place. She only "stalks" him in a comedic sense.

He's not though, he was just trying to make it plain to her that he doesn't love her. He chats away normally with her until she tries to push the love thing, then says he wants to be clear about it (something that could even be construed as development following his death) from now on and she starts acting crazy, so he calls her on it. And let's not forget that he saved her life at the cost of his own without a second thought not so long ago. He's not exactly rear end in a top hat of the year or anything.

Edit: Reminds me, I did love Juvia will be 2.0 on from now on, and then the diagrams showing the various versions of her. That, and Erza somehow pulling the three cats from her cleavage to cheer up Millianna.

tsob fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jul 5, 2013

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Rainbow Pony Deluxe posted:

So 341, 342, and 343 are out. I would say I read them but 341 is about as close as you can get to softcore porn in a shonen manga I think, so it might be worth skipping.

Given that it sets up the current arc in the backhalf I would say no, it's not really worth skipping. Even if it didn't though I think the comedy of Natsu and Gray beating on each other for 3 days, including meal and sleep breaks before they simultaneously punch Erza is worth it. I would love to see the anime animate some of the 3 day brawl because seeing them break for meals and chat before resuming it when they're both done and kicking the other awake in the morning to start all over again would be hilarious. I think Erza's acting and opinion of her own skill at it is pretty funny too.

As to the actual arc? Worrren might by one of my favorite characters in Fairy Tail already. His brocolli-head profile, tree body, lame jokes and rather esoteric and non-attack focused magic really make him stand out, especially when put together. Guy is just a lot of fun. The fact he spends his days trying to replant deserts just makes him that much cooler. Really hope we get to see more of him at some point.

The Fresh Prince posted:

I hope natsu eats the fire.

I would be extremely surprised if this doesn't happen at some point.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Sounds less like a beef and more like they might actually enjoy each other's work to me if we're to take all that as true and actual references.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
I think Ultear is dead and was aged so that she could live long enough to see that everything worked out before she died rather than just dying and no-one being the wiser. As to chapater, color me as surprised as Natsu that these guys are actually kind of cool, though the sniper's gun seems kind of crummy compared to the designs of the hammer and sword. They're both really cool weapons. Hope the gun has some feature we haven't seen yet so it can be just as cool.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Yea, Happy might have dropped the ball, or in this case the bottle, but it appears to have helped regardless and the reaction page had me laughing for a good 20 or 30 seconds at the various faces. Happy and Pantherlily are the only two good cats, except possibly Happy's parents, who were kind of amusing as bit characters and got a fairly emotional scene at the end of their little story.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
I want a Dragonslayer, or perhaps some kind of magic-user anathema to them that has a puppy sidekick now. One who gets on with Happy, chases Charle and is scared shitless of Pantherlily perhaps for the full range of reactions.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
I don't know, I thought Kana and Wendy's story was nice, minus the creepy start.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Really? Seems to be the intelligent thing to do to me. Can't beat someone head on? Then just beat them using different tactics rather than keep trying the same old thing or suddenly powering her up by some deus ex machina.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
She already has, kind of, in Aquarius.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Zogundar posted:

Isn't Lucy the "Juvia" in that setup?

Not really, since Lucy doesn't love Aquarius on any kind of personal level either - she just wants her to help her in fights. She may love her in a "I love all people/spirits" way mind, but I was referring more to the water power than the unrequited love thing.


attackbunny posted:

Minerva isn't really using tactics here.

Lucking into an old enemy while they're crippled and deciding to beat the poo poo out of them is hardly a clever stratagem.

Except that it's pretty clear that Minerva didn't luck in to this - she's in the same guild as, and personally partnered with the Troll looking guy in the teeth bandana. Even if they didn't specifically go there to fight Fairy Tail it's pretty clear she got her partner to target and regress Erza so she could fight her once she was weakened. There's no real luck involved, and at least some element of strategy.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Hasn't she already regained her lost powers with a long time now? I remember her fighting on at least one occasion while deviled up at the very least.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Well that was pretty enjoyable, if only for the first few pages of Grey loving around with the Ogre dude. Pity he didn't get to do more that really, it was entertaining. I'm not sure how he could make an entire floor of ice but only that tiny hammer though. I'm also not sure what the point of Natsu getting turned young was if it was going to get reversed so quick and basically have no consequence.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Mangastream have the latest chapter up. Pretty good setup chapter, though it feels a bit odd that the arc appears to be wrapping up here. It was really short and anti-climactic all told. Not much really happened in it, though I enjoyed what was there. I also like that the Demon Slayer dude actually looks like he's supposed to be a nice person going by his design, the fact he's kneeling solemly at a grave and has a small and kind of gentle smile on his face. He probably won't be, but may be Mishima will make him bad in a fundamentalist believer kind of way, rather than an over the top and evil fuckhead way. Also, don't know about anyone else, but demon slayer appears to be a step down from God slayer to me. Oh, and Minerva is getting friendzoned apparently. Can't say it's a surprise or out of character given that this is Fairy Tail, but I'm not really fond of the idea. Maybe the execution will carry it off though, who knows.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Jeabus Mahogany posted:

Calling it now based on this chapter alone: That guy is Gray's dad and Gray also has Demon-Slayer magic, because how else is he gonna get Shonen Power-UpsTM?

Same way Natsu does every other arc, friendship and random poo poo.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

international owl day posted:

And this chapter we're introducing the newest baddie, she's got the biggest tits yet, with a giant rear end to boot. I have to agree, Mashima is starting to get a bit carried away.

I'm actually more annoyed at the way Minerva responds than the ridiculousness of the new character's design. Minerva's whole thing is supposed to be that she doesn't give a poo poo about anyone but herself, doesn't hold any real sense of guild loyalty and wants to be the strongest. Suddenly someone shows up who squashes her latest guild on her own and has a magic that makes people stronger if they can withstand it. I expected Minerva to just smirk at that point and ask for the Tartarus chick to do it on her because she knew she could withstand it, but nope, time for crying and helplessness instead. I know she's getting friendzoned by Erza given last chapter, but hers is gonna come off as badly as Flare's by the looks of things. I actually kind of like Flare's current characterization, even if it's highly reminiscent of Juvia, because it's fun in a weird way, but it really could have been set up or executed way better.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Chalk me up as not really caring either. I love Warrod, thought some of the jokes were funny and thought the two page spread with the stars while Warrod spoke was very pretty. There was quite a bit of man service to balance it out anyways, along with shipping potential for people in to that given Natsu scrubbing Erza's back and poo poo - so it's not like it was all bad or anything. I'm sure quite a few women enjoyed that as well as quite a few men.

Edit: gently caress it, I have a confession guys: I like boobs. I don't read any manga specifically for boobs, but I actually enjoy when a manga puts them in quite a bit of the time on some level. The only time I found it egregious recently in Fairy Tail for instance is last chapter, with a huge pair of tits ruining what was supposed to be a touching panel of someone crying. I find the poses that the guy drawing Kenichi constantly stuffs women in to more annoying because they always feel un-natural for what the character is doing. Mashima isn't nearly as bad about that, so I usually don't mind. Otherwise, if I can get boobs and good story in one package I'm a happy guy. My problem with Fairy Tail isn't the constant fan service, it's that the guy isn't that good of a writer and constantly sets up and then wastes interesting stuff. If he could write a better story or character arcs while having some fan service I would have no problem with him most of the time.

tsob fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Oct 10, 2013

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
I'm betting on redemption for Tempesta instead, because that one demon that hosed around with Minerva is already in a story arc about redemption so I don't think she'll turn too. The villain whose actions cause your other villain to turn good turning good herself would seem a bit lazy even for Mashima. Tempesta is the one Tartarus member we haven't seen yet (I think), and I doubt there's only going to be one hot, busty chick in the guild, so I'm assuming she'll be the one to turn instead. Along with Silver, because he's smiling and being a bit to moderate to do otherwise, and no-one of even the remotest consequence dies in this manga.

tsob fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Oct 18, 2013

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
I'm just looking forward to seeing Laxus' new anti-magic particle lightning dragon powers once we recovers. Also, was that a string of sausages that Ever was using as a whip?

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
He won't just be on it, he'll be it. Like, he'll secretly be every single member, but none of them will know the other is A Jellal. And at least one of them will be a traitor. Cue the shenanigans when they all remove their masks, sunglasses, magical disguises etc. to reveal they all look the same and the traitor destroys their clothing so that it's impossible for anyone to identify and arrest him. Erza will be the only one capable of doing it, but be dying from a nose-bleed and unable to help.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Don't be silly, of course they'll be affected - they'll just get bigger. Not really much to say about the actual chapter, except that I can't see this fight going on too long given that it's Natsu versus a bomb guy. I do want to say that I love Gazeel's current look though I guess.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Kuroyama posted:

And three months from now, there'll be a "Laxus vs. That One Dude" chapter and Laxus will have found a way around the guy's ability.

Because Mashima said so.

Nah, he's going to win in the re-match because he ate the dude's power. He's a dragonslayer, artificial or no, that means he's getting some jazzy new powers out of it. It's one of the few things that Fairy Tail has been consistent about really.

Silver2195 posted:

I'm actually not going to call bullshit here. Natsu had Wendy there to heal him while Lucy stalled, and his trick of positioning the affected part of his body to allow himself to eat the explosion makes sense.

Plus, let's face it, it was an explosion. The fact it put Natsu out of commission at all is more bullshit than the fact he found a way around it.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
The only thing I thought of during that scene was that Happy's grin just before the explosion looked very Getter-esque/Ishikawa-esque. The idea of someone flying a bomb off is so generic that it didn't really trigger anything particular for me.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Serious Frolicking posted:

Minerva is probably the first decent villain in the manga. She has goals unrelated to FT, but she also really, really loving hates Erza. Most of the rest are either completely forgettable or do a face turn.

She's also in the middle of doing a face turn and becoming a good guy given recent developments and has only really hated Erza for about one or two arcs, most of which she barely appeared for. She might be better than other villains, but I wouldn't go calling her good or even decent personally.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

attackbunny posted:

Also, gently caress's sake, Mashima, torture fanservice? "Well, in this scene Erza's being brutally beaten and threatened with the death of a loved one, better put bouncing titties everywhere."

While it does reduce the emotional impact of the scene, in a sense that's not a bad thing for a comedy series when dealing with something relatively heavy like torture. It was way worse a few weeks back when Erza or Juvia was supposed to be reacting in horror and shock, crying over something or other and most of the panel was taken up by their heaving tits. I don't normally give a poo poo about the excessive fan service in Fairy Tail (and didn't this chapter for instance), but even I found that page rather tasteless since it takes away so much from what was supposed to be a sad moment.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Deathwing posted:

Maybe i'm a horrible person, but it doesn't outweigh what I liked about the rest of the manga enough to make me stop reading.

It helps that there was no actual tentacle rape, just tentacle leering. Characters have been leering since the first issue. Including non-human ones thanks to spirits like Loki and Taurus.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Wait I'm confused. I know Jellal is always bullshit, but usually his bullshit come backs at least take a chapter or two. In this chapter one of the Oracien Seis guys shouts about him crushing his own eyes to escape an illusion magic of some kind, Jellal spends a few pages with his eyes closed and then by the end of the chapter he's screaming at one of them with eyes open again. Did I miss something or is Jellal's bullshit getting stronger?

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Rodyle posted:

Not that the chairman wasn't being dumb but... it kind of seems like the demons are being just as dumb? I mean, he's under their thumb anyway and is supposedly the only one who can use this apparently extremely useful super archive, kind of seems like they've thrown away something really valuable!

The Face system they're trying to gain access to will render all magic void across the entire continent in perpetuity, leaving only them with power since they don't use magic but demon power. Which makes you wonder why he worked with them in the first place. Having magic seems like a pretty sweet deal to me, why would you help someone get rid of it for you and everyone else?

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
I'm loving the new Tartarus girl. She flips from silly to serious so quickly and is just so boy crazy, it's hilarious. She pretty much has to meet Juvia and Gray at some point.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Erza really is the best thing about this manga. That aside, is Fairy Tail doing gangbusters in volume releases over in Japan or something to say it's getting another "event" publishing multiple chapters in a short time frame? Has any other manga done this?

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

attackbunny posted:

I'm getting a bit annoyed. The set-up for this arc made it pretty clear that Gray would have the deepest emotional stake in it, what with Silver and the Deliora demons, but all we're getting is the regular 24/7 Natsu Show.

This is almost always the case though - with occasional interjections of the Erza or Jellal show. Cana, Lucy and several others have been eclipsed in arcs that could/should have focused on them given the setup.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Given that she's seen from the back, in the shower, holding the mini Gray sponge and going "Oh ~Gray-sama~, you're touching me - even in that place" he might not be right, but he's not far wrong either. I actually found the fact that her house is basically one big Gray shrine filled with Gray everythings more disturbing frankly. The sponge is just a personalized sex toy for all intents, but the fact there's basically no part of her house that isn't filled with Gray memorabilia means she really doesn't seem to have any interests that aren't Gray. Which is just sad. Erza's speech, Gray digging out the scarf and the hug-pillow thing were all kind of nice and/or funny and I do like the Juvia stalker jokes - the manga gets away with it most of the time because she appears so little. Still, it'd be nice for her to show some interest in something other than Gray in the one special she's ever likely to get. I guess knitting might count?

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
I think it's hard to top Wendy in that regard to be honest, since she's an air dragonslayer and I still laugh at the idea of eating air to power up/rejuvenate. On the other hand, I wonder if there's a vegetable dragonslayer or pudding dragonslayer or something like that out there.

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tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

KamikaziPie posted:

Of all the spirits she has it had to be one of the most interesting ones.

Also the one she has the least connection to, which is more annoying to me. I still found it actually kind of moving, but it would have been far more so if there'd be any kind of established connection/build up to this. That's Fairy Tail all-round though really.

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

And Fairy Tail villains are usually beaten anticlimactically, but its usually a big fuckoff explosion attack from a protag, not a side effect of the spell that frees the protags to start their fights. I'm guessing E.N.D. will free him or something, we barely got to see a sample of his rose/thorn-based magic.

I doubt he's beaten, since the Spirit King mentioned leaving beating him to his friends. He's been temporarily disabled in some manner at best.

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