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I have the same feeling and that's why I think I can never really judge it fairly until the last movie comes out. In 2065
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Yeah ultimately despite being kind of disappointed with 3.33 I am still pretty hyped for the final movie.
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personally I am in the "a whole lot happened in 3.33" camp but I do need to see it again I do really enjoy how differently people take it. some of the things I read it's like "poo poo, were we watching the same movie?"
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Feb 5, 2016 13:24
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I think I've seen 3.33 about 10 times at this point. I saw it 4 times the week it finally got subs, which was an awesome week
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In Training posted:I think I've seen 3.33 about 10 times at this point. I saw it 4 times the week it finally got subs, which was an awesome week I've got a call from the UN; they want you to conduct a study on psychological self-torture.
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Feb 5, 2016 15:57
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When 3.33 was available I watched it that night and then watched it again as soon as I woke up the very next morning. It's the only movie I've watched as an adult multiple times within 24 hours
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Feb 5, 2016 16:07
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Srice posted:When 3.33 was available I watched it that night and then watched it again as soon as I woke up the very next morning. Hell yeah. I watched it twice in quick succession because of how much I liked it, once with a few friends and then again a day or two later because the translation was revised in some pretty major ways
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Feb 5, 2016 16:17
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Wait, did some of you really wait 3 years to watch this film?
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JazzFlight posted:I think a kind of annnoying thing about 3.33 is that ultimately nothing really happened. They were spinning their wheels waiting for the finale which is still a long time off. The only advancement to the plot was: A lot of character development happened in that time period. Nobody is really back in the same position they were before. Like I am willing to bet without fail that Shinji would not do the same things in 4.0 he did in 3.0 if given the chance, nor does Asuka seem to have the same response to him, nor is Kaworu there to bail him out, ect, ect. Alternately we'll discover that Godzilla is actually Shinji Ikari considering Anno's next film.
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sharktamer posted:Wait, did some of you really wait 3 years to watch this film? "Wait" is kind of a strong word. ~3 years elapsed between the time I could preorder 3.33 and the time I watched it, but after the first six months I sort of gave up "waiting" for it.
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I watched all the Rebuilds after the simulwatch and I definitely came around a bit more on 3.33. It definitely feels like part 1 of a 2 part movie though.
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Watching 3.33. again for the first time since I watched it a couple years ago and I think it's better the second time around. The CG is poo poo, which is sad given how good the CG is in 1.11 and 2.22 but overall I think it's a really interesting departure in plot and I'm incredibly excited for where 4.44 will go. I love that it's pretty much Anno once again pulling the rug out from under the viewers. Everyone that thought Rebuild would be this badass, self-actualized Shinji gets to see that "guts and hard work" just hosed everything up even worse and he's still a giant turd. He's so selfish that he won't even listen to his only friend when he tells him to NOT pull the spears out. This time around the piano scene seems even more blatant in telling us that Shinji is re-creating the world over and over until he gets his happy ending. "Just keep practicing until you get a sound you like." So hype for the next one.
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That line in particular is one of my favorites in the film. A stand in for the entire creative process surrounding NGE in all its forms over the years.
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3.33 had an effect on me such that I didn't watch it again until some time had passed. I think the most emotional moment on my initial watch was the visuals given during Fuyutski's talk to Shinji about his mom. On rewatches I still think the movie is fantastic, and I really like all of the ridiculous visions we see. Like, if you just throw yourself into "I believe you, Evangelion" mode, then it's a loving insane picture. Like the whole movie is one picture, a giant painting, with NERV HQ at the center of it, with that huge... mouth... and ... stuff. Yeah. The painting metaphor does suggest a "lack of motion", but really, paintings can convey motion to the viewer, and rebuild 3.33 did something like that for me. I love the movie in its own right, and am very sad that I can't get my original copy to display the subtitles. But I'll admit that I sat and watched my favorite parts anyways. roobots posted:Watching 3.33. again for the first time since I watched it a couple years ago and I think it's better the second time around. The CG is poo poo, which is sad given how good the CG is in 1.11 and 2.22 but overall I think it's a really interesting departure in plot and I'm incredibly excited for where 4.44 will go. Yeah but I think the piano scene has another idea behind it, which is that creating music is a joyful experience with which you can share your self to others.
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Watching 3.33 and I think part of the mess has to be placed at Miasato's feet. She had two broad options available to her, to treat Shinji like a monster or like a kid who accidentally made a horrendous mistake. She went with the first one because it felt easier to blame the state of the world on somebody but in the end she lacked the willpower to fully commit herself to that line of reasoning by killing Shinji when he was escaping. Also did anybody ever try explaining to Shinji that the entire thing was basically an accident. As in yes his actions did lead to the third impact but he does not have to shoulder all the responsibility for not only did he not do it on purpose, he had no idea that he could do something like this.
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Feb 5, 2016 20:23
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No one ever talks to Shinji about it. Literally everyone's top priority when he wakes up is to poo poo all over him.
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Shinjobi posted:No one ever talks to Shinji about it. Literally everyone's top priority when he wakes up is to poo poo all over him. More like ignore him as useless. He can't pilot the Eva so he is useless. But his existence is still a threat because blah blah instrumentality. Everyone has become hardened by years of conflict, and that colors their treatment of Shinji. He's more like a bad memory to them than a person.
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To be fair, he was only conscious aboard the Wunder for...an hour? If we're being generous? And part of that time was eaten up by fighting the artificial angels. Wasn't much time for an exposition dump.
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SHISHKABOB posted:More like ignore him as useless. He can't pilot the Eva so he is useless. Am I the only one who entertains the idea that the 0% sinc rate might have been a lie? Their goal is to keep him from piloting Eva again and telling him it wouldn't work sounds like a pretty good idea for that. He is able to pilot Eva 13(?) later on without much trouble.
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BiggestOrangeTree posted:Am I the only one who entertains the idea that the 0% sinc rate might have been a lie? Their goal is to keep him from piloting Eva again and telling him it wouldn't work sounds like a pretty good idea for that. He is able to pilot Eva 13(?) later on without much trouble. Sync ratios are specific to the bond between a pilot and and a particular Eva, plus 13 has no soul, which makes the synchronization for that unit between pilot and pilot.
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BiggestOrangeTree posted:Am I the only one who entertains the idea that the 0% sinc rate might have been a lie? Their goal is to keep him from piloting Eva again and telling him it wouldn't work sounds like a pretty good idea for that. He is able to pilot Eva 13(?) later on without much trouble. He was able to pilot Eva-13 because Kaworu was there.
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JazzFlight posted:I think a kind of annnoying thing about 3.33 is that ultimately nothing really happened. They were spinning their wheels waiting for the finale which is still a long time off. The only advancement to the plot was: Well, 3.33 isn't out here for another month so I can't check this but (MILD FINAL SCENE SPOILER): Aren't Asuka, Shinji and Rei3 completely cut off from everyone at the end of the movie? I'm fairly sure they are stranded due to radio interference or something. Could be interesting to see how the next movie handles that At any rate, I'm glad the US blu rays are finally out. With any luck, the UK shouldn't have any more delays.
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So I finally watched EoE, the end of the original show, and 3.33. I don't understand any ending
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Ross Angeles posted:So I finally watched EoE, the end of the original show, and 3.33. 3.33 isn't an ending, the original show actually makes the most sense, and EoE is an acid trip. 
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Ross Angeles posted:So I finally watched EoE, the end of the original show, and 3.33. So I don't really want to try explaining EoE because even after 5 or 6 viewings I don't think I really get what Anno's going for, but the end of the original show is pretty straight forward. It's basically the visualization of Shinji coming to terms with a couple of ideas. Mainly that one can only really know one's self through interactions with others, that a large part of what makes these interactions painful is self hatred and fear of judgment, and finally that he was self worth and the potential exists for him to be happy.
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Yeah it's an internal psychodrama represented as plot, that's 90% of what there is to 'get'
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What's not to get about EoE? Maybe it's cause I've seen it so many times but It makes sense enough to me. Shinji breaks all the AT fields in the world, everyone becomes one in a sea of tang, he realizes that it's not what he thought it'd be. He eventually accepts that real life can and will often be painful and difficult He realizes that even though other people will always hurt him and each other and people will always be afraid and alone in the world, that doesn't delegitimize the opposite side of the coin, fleeting and temporary as it may be, it's also what makes life worth living. Gendo accepts his fate and his punishment for what he did to Shinji, Yui flies off into space as an everlasting monument to the fact that humanity existed once upon a time, and Shinji reforms his body and becomes an individual again, only to be confronted with the person he'd least like to see in the whole world. She knows what he did to her and he knows she knows and we all know what happens next. The end!
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That does some it up but I don't think the ending stuff or the Gendo stuff is correct.
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If Gendo got to join the rest of humanity I figure his legs woulda been tang like everyone else. Also that whole scene between him and Yui and Kaworu woulda been a bit pointless. It's not easy to accept because I love Gendo and empathise with him more than a person probably should but it makes the most sense to me that once reunited with Yui he'd see what a poo poo he'd been to the person Yui cares about as much as he cares about her. ChairMaster fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Feb 7, 2016 |
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Leroy Dennui posted:Sync ratios are specific to the bond between a pilot and and a particular Eva, plus 13 has no soul, which makes the synchronization for that unit between pilot and pilot. I'm not saying this doesn't make sense but I feel you're making a lot of assumptions about the mechanics of the weird rear end things we get a glimpse of in 3.33. Plus, how would they know his sync ratio with Eva 1 without putting him inside?
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They measured it with a little thingy.
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Has there been any news on 4.0? I was wondering if it had come out yet but it turns out it hasn't, and a Google search just gave articles from early-mid 2015 saying 4.0 had been renamed 3.0+1.0 and was due for release in December last year. I found 3.0 to be pretty enjoyable aside from the time skip being a little awkward, but I've been looking forward to a finale that's hopefully on-par with EoE and it's a shame that three years have passed and we still don't have a conclusion. Hopefully they're using the time to craft something really out there, but I think that the whole reason 3.0 took a while is because they scrapped everything and started fresh halfway through? At least, I recall the 3.0 preview being entirely different from the final movie and hearing some news of old work being scrapped, but that was a long time ago now so I could be remembering wrong.
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Anno is doing Godzilla so we won't see 4.0 until late 2018 at the earliest.
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Oh, I didn't know he'd just decided to go work on something else instead. That's a bummer but hopefully 4.0 comes out one day.
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yes http://www.gwern.net/otaku#section-25
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godzilla resurgence is in post and has a jp release date set for the end of july, idk if anyone has picked it up for us distribution. he will finish rebuild in time for the 20th anniversary of end of eva. i know it in my heart
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Corvo posted:Oh, I didn't know he'd just decided to go work on something else instead. That's a bummer but hopefully 4.0 comes out one day. It's not so much that he "decided" so much as it is that when you're a Tokusatsu fan on the level that Anno is and someone asks you to helm motherfucking Godzilla, the only way you're going to say no and live with yourself is if a family member loving died and you have to make the arrangements.
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