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Sakurazuka posted:Thanks to every other giant robot show people had been trained to think that the first thing that would cross a 14 year-old's mind when told to pilot a giant robot against a deadly unknown enemy that will probably end in his death is 'gently caress yeah!' So him going 'gently caress no' was like crazy talk, what are you some sort of wuss? I always liked even just the surface read of Eva deconstructing anime and robot shows by saying: this is actually what happens when you stick a nice, compassionate 14 year old into a huge killing machine and tell him he has to save the world at all costs, p.s. you're an rear end in a top hat for thinking killing is easy
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Wachter posted:In Evangelion, a meek, frightened child has to climb back inside his mother before he's strong enough to fight the monsters, which causes his love interests to despise him, die, and/or end the world. This sums up Eva perfectly.  .
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I just finished the original series and the eoe ending. What the gently caress? That's really all I have to say, the show was really good but by the end of it my brain exploded. I'm thinking about watching rebuild, but I don't know, because what the gently caress.
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Apr 8, 2014 08:37
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Kiran posted:I just finished the original series and the eoe ending. It's simple, really.
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Kiran posted:I just finished the original series and the eoe ending. Rebuild will not answer any questions. That what the gently caress feeling is evangelion!
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Kiran posted:I just finished the original series and the eoe ending.
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GulMadred posted:That's okay! The producers understand that NGE wasn't everyone's cup of tea, and they've retooled it for a wider audience this is a filthy lie. The Rebuild series features: yeaaaahup. Pretty much outlines all my negative thoughts of the third rebuild. On the other hand, I've just finished "Evangelion 3rd Impact" the rhythm eva game. Two important things, it's produced by Suda 51 and it tells the story of the rebuild movies through Rythym, I enjoyed it alot more that I did the three rebuild movies combined.
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GulMadred posted:Musical training montage! Everyone loves a good montage! I actually thought that montage is pretty good at establishing some kind of deeper connection between Kaworu and Shinji. It was certainly much better then the original series in which Kaworu shows up and tells Shinji that they're best friends so then they are. You could actually see Shinji having fun and getting out of his own head.
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I remember hearing once that when they were recording Asuka's last line in EoE, it was originally something else, but they didn't like the sound of it. Then anno asked the voice actor what she would say in response to the hospital scene, and they used that. So, the true english translation of that last line is "what the gently caress". Which is a perfect last line for EoE. :mysterysolved:
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It's important to keep in mind that End of Evangelion is basically a big angry "gently caress you" to people who complained about how the original show ended.
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notZaar posted:It's important to keep in mind that End of Evangelion is basically a big angry "gently caress you" to people who complained about how the original show ended. No it isn't. The plot structure of EoE predates the TV ending (they basically wanted to air a 40-minute version of EoE and the censor told them to take a hike) and the overall fan response to how the show ended was mostly positive. The movie contains footage of death threats that Anno / Gainax received, but it also contains footage of letters praising them for the series, including one from a depressed teenager who wanted to thank Anno for showing him that things can turn around for anyone, now matter how hosed up they are. 
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Facepalm Ranger posted:
WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS I NEED IT NOW. Suda51 + Eva??? Sign me up
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:No it isn't. Yeah, you can even see scenes from EoE in the last two episodes. Misato dead near the elevator, Asuka in her Eva under the lake and Ritsuko floating in the LCL sea without any context, it's pretty obvious EoE was the ending they had always planned to do.
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There are so many myths about the production of EoE and the ending. There's this online video series called Folding Ideas(?) where a guy with a puppet made of cardboard tries to make serious and deep observations/declarations of films, and his EoE video is just a STREEEEEAAAAAM of misinformation. Made him look really stupid. But anyway, the basic order of events is: October 1995-March 1996: The series airs for the first time in a kids slot after Ninja Turtles in the afternoon. Episodes were made sequentially 3 months before their air date, and around halfway the story and ending changed, hence the introspective but cobbled together look of the final episodes. Although it wasn't as explosively successful initially as modern fans would think, Evangelion The Movie was concepted and greenlit before the show finished airing. 1996: Evangelion is re-aired at a later timeslot where it gains a significantly larger audience and following who are loving hyped about the movie coming next year. March 1997: The movie, Evangelion: Death and Rebirth, premieres. Death is a cool summary of the series, Rebirth was supposed to be a whole movie but had to be a preview for another movie because Gainax are known for their timeliness. The abrupt ending of Rebirth is what all the EoE death threats are alluding to, not the series ending. July 1997: End of Evangelion premieres and concludes the rest of Rebirth. 2001?: Directors Cut versions of episodes 21-24 are released on DVD to better tie into the EoE ending. They are new content, not originally discarded content put back in.
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Zeruel posted:WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS I NEED IT NOW. http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Evangelion_New_Theatrical_Edition:_3nd_Impact Came out a couple of years ago. I picked it up on a whim from a shop in Los Angeles shortly after release; it's still sealed on my shelf.
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Zeruel posted:WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS I NEED IT NOW. It's not spectacularly Suda 51 ish. As it's a relatively basic but fun rhythm game. You can complete it in about and hour but it's a fun way to go through the first two rebuild movies. I bought it from a website over here in china called Taobao. I wouldn't pay more than the equivalent of 100RMB.
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So is there any sign whatsoever of a release date for 3.33 in the US?
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Zebulon posted:So is there any sign whatsoever of a release date for 3.33 in the US? I don't think there is and it irritates me. I wasn't able to make any special theater showings.
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Squallege posted:I don't think there is and it irritates me. I wasn't able to make any special theater showings. Really don't see what the point was in pushing off a 2 months out release date for the sake of a very limited theatrical release in the first place. The complete lack of a new date, or any information whatsoever, is definitely getting annoying.
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Zebulon posted:Really don't see what the point was in pushing off a 2 months out release date for the sake of a very limited theatrical release in the first place. The complete lack of a new date, or any information whatsoever, is definitely getting annoying. The worst part is they never really explained their reasoning behind the push other than "overwhelming demand". Which I don't think there really was going by the sparse as gently caress special showings list. They all ended after a week or so in January so they should've announced something then. Instead they kept us in the dark. 
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RMZXAnarchy posted:The worst part is they never really explained their reasoning behind the push other than "overwhelming demand". Which I don't think there really was going by the sparse as gently caress special showings list. They all ended after a week or so in January so they should've announced something then. Instead they kept us in the dark. Nobody really goes crazy for Eva in the west anymore. It's all attack on Titan or naruto/bleach/shounen crap. The Eva era is over. I doubt we'll see a bluray release before the forth film is out.
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RMZXAnarchy posted:The worst part is they never really explained their reasoning behind the push other than "overwhelming demand". Which I don't think there really was going by the sparse as gently caress special showings list. They all ended after a week or so in January so they should've announced something then. Instead they kept us in the dark. Facepalm Ranger posted:Nobody really goes crazy for Eva in the west anymore. It's all attack on Titan or naruto/bleach/shounen crap. The Eva era is over. I doubt we'll see a bluray release before the forth film is out.
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ultimatemegax posted:Considering no date has been given for the fourth film in Japan and that Funi seems to be targeting a holiday release for 3.33, this is idiotic. It's been, what, 7 years since the first rebuild movie? With a 2015 tentative release date for the final part that's 8 years to retell a story that was told in less than 2. All I meant was that other Eva is still there but, it's not the money spinner it used to be, so there's no rush to get it released.
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Funimation has appeared on the ANNCast a few times and they've straight up said that the previous 2 Eva movies have been a gigantic hit for them. Which makes the delays all the weirder! I know that they've mentioned that part of the licensing requirements for each movie was a theatrical run, but that has been fulfilled for months now.
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Yeah, these movies have sold like gangbusters on DVD and Blu-Ray. They've even done well in US theaters relatively speaking. 3.0 grossed $175,000 in a limited run (and by limited I mean maybe two or three showings a day at most theaters) with no advertizing. If I had to guess, I'd say that 3.0 will be out by August. I doubt they push it so far back that it releases during the holidays.
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Robert Denby posted:Yeah, these movies have sold like gangbusters on DVD and Blu-Ray. They've even done well in US theaters relatively speaking. 3.0 grossed $175,000 in a limited run (and by limited I mean maybe two or three showings a day at most theaters) with no advertizing. If I had to guess, I'd say that 3.0 will be out by August. I doubt they push it so far back that it releases during the holidays.
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Still, it'd be really stupid of them to push something back from February all the way to the other end of the year. Surely they aren't that incompetent.
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RMZXAnarchy posted:Still, it'd be really stupid of them to push something back from February all the way to the other end of the year. Surely they aren't that incompetent.
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So the big question When is 4.0 going to come out?
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lyricaldanichan posted:So the big question I will bet money next year, to coincide with the actual date of the series. Or 2029 for the timeskip
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So I haven't watched the series since I was about fifteen and I'm going back now and doing a rewatch. Is it bad my memories of all the insanity from later episodes is having me bored at the opening stuff?
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You'd think people would learn nothing will ever live up to your nostalgia from puberty after the fact. Let it lie in the past and just watch the movies instead.
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notZaar posted:You'd think people would learn nothing will ever live up to your nostalgia from puberty after the fact. Let it lie in the past and just watch the movies instead. I've seen rebuild. To be frank this isn't something I'm watching for nostalgia's sake. Y'know how you watch something at different ages to see if you can understand it more? That's kind of the idea. Combination of more life experience plus just better understand of the psychological issues has me curious. End falls under that, but only because I remember it being one of the most horrifying things I'd seen back then.
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TheManSeries posted:So I haven't watched the series since I was about fifteen and I'm going back now and doing a rewatch. Is it bad my memories of all the insanity from later episodes is having me bored at the opening stuff?
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That's true to a certain extent, but I think even the opening episodes have enough of the Anno/GAINAX touch to elevate it above the average giant robot show. Certainly the art direction, soundtrack and general direction are a cut above the norm.
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TheManSeries posted:I've seen rebuild. To be frank this isn't something I'm watching for nostalgia's sake. Y'know how you watch something at different ages to see if you can understand it more? That's kind of the idea. Combination of more life experience plus just better understand of the psychological issues has me curious. End falls under that, but only because I remember it being one of the most horrifying things I'd seen back then. I've found the best way to place the early episodes is to think of them in terms of what they say about Shinji and Misato's personalities. Especially Misato, she's a much more central character than I ever noticed on my first viewing. Like in episode 1, Shinji is totally ready to defy his father and leave until Gendo threatens to push his task off on an injured Rei -- he's motivated by preventing someone else's suffering, not praise-seeking. So later when he claims that's why he pilots, is he lying to himself, or did his motivations change? Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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TheManSeries posted:So I haven't watched the series since I was about fifteen and I'm going back now and doing a rewatch. Is it bad my memories of all the insanity from later episodes is having me bored at the opening stuff? No, the beginning is pretty good but if you're watching Eva for the insane poo poo it's no wonder you're a bit bored at this. That said I do think Eva's progression from the mundane to the mystical is one of its most important attributes.
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The first 15 episodes are essential because they're the set up for the fall. I think they're really enjoyable and that the show would have still been great if it had continued in that style, but the power of the last half comes from the fact that (the collective) we don't want the fun parts to end. We want it to continue with romance and fight scenes and groovy stuff like that - but it can't continue like that, and the characters can't follow those paths, and it makes it doubly frustrating and depressing (and great and radical and so forth).
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I've been slowly re watching the episodes myself and I'm really enjoying trying to untangle the characters' motivations and underlying problems, in anticipation of them crashing into them head first in the final act. I can't imagine people would have seen it as by the numbers even when it was airing. Obviously on paper the Angel set up smells of monster of the week, though.
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