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Irony Be My Shield posted:I've seen people say this but is there any actual evidence of it at all, like an interview or something? It mostly seems to be based on really flimsy reasoning along the lines of "I don't like Rebuild, but it's deliberately bad because" I really like Rebuild specifically because it's a reaction to the reaction to the tv show and EoE.
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I was happy when I introduced my sister to this series and she was majorly pissed at how the adults treated Shinji. As she put it "They loving cheered when it managed to take a single step, that's a hosed up weapon to make a teenager pilot into a life or death situation."
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Jul 11, 2015 04:31
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:She doesn't hate him, she just has bigger plans and higher priorities. I don't know, EoE kind of suggests she hates him for the way he interacted with Shinji. Or Rei 3 hated him. Or he hated himself. But the way he went out was pretty bleak.
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The dub is hot garbage except for the line reading of Fuyutski and Gendo during the episode where NERV HQ loses power. "It's hot." "Yes."
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Dec 14, 2015 10:50
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3.0 is great you have it all, laser beams in space, giant hosed up piles of corpses, a flirty piano sequence what more could you want?
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Ross Angeles posted:So I finally watched EoE, the end of the original show, and 3.33. So I don't really want to try explaining EoE because even after 5 or 6 viewings I don't think I really get what Anno's going for, but the end of the original show is pretty straight forward. It's basically the visualization of Shinji coming to terms with a couple of ideas. Mainly that one can only really know one's self through interactions with others, that a large part of what makes these interactions painful is self hatred and fear of judgment, and finally that he was self worth and the potential exists for him to be happy.
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Feb 7, 2016 02:48
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Raxivace posted:With Shinji, this often involves him making self-centered decisions without enough care for how it affects others, which really isn't that different from how Gendo operates. Really it's how most of the characters operate with the exception of Rei, who goes too far in the opposite direction, and maybe Kaji.
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May 4, 2016 04:33
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movie had some very good bits, but overall felt kind of uneven still a worthwhile watch, and the horrible nerd in me ate up the little eva references, but all in all i would have preferred another rebuild movie
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Oct 14, 2016 06:24
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Raxivace posted:If I could get my way the Criterion Collection would put out the next release of EoE on blu-ray, and it would have cool analysis and commentary and special features and a pristine transfer of the film. you have my full support in your quest
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Oct 23, 2016 02:08
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HoneyBoy posted:Instead of spending $20 buying 3.33 from Best Buy today I donated to some door-to-door church teenager who was selling self-help books no, you should have bought the Blu-ray and nge themed shaving merch
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Nov 18, 2016 06:59
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E-flat posted:I mean, poo poo, I had to keep myself from writing "Asuka's death scene" during this post which made me realize I've always thought she did die, but isn't the general consensus that only people alive for instrumentality could come out of it--hence why Misato/Ritsuko/Gendou couldn't--so she had to have survived this, right? it's been a while since i've watched eoe sober, but i seem to recall a frame of a rei standing over misato's body before the stairwell blows up, leaving her fate ambiguous?
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Nov 26, 2016 08:34
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i caught a few scattered episodes from the first half of the series on tv, then i saw the last two episodes and found them so compelling i went out to buy the whole series and actually watch it in order
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Dec 26, 2016 07:01
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the dub has some inspired moments that i appreciate, but overall is inferior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-HgKRAtXaI
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HoneyBoy posted:The music is also really fun i never really got into panty and stocking, but those are some great tracks. now i'm gonna have to think about trying to watch again
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Dec 30, 2016 23:45
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mainlining rebuild 3.0 when subs finally dropped then immediately having someone link me the bike horn version was a transcendental experience that exceeded anything i had previously gotten from the whole series
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yo peep this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB1k02yh43A
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Nov 30, 2017 04:41
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if you had to simply sum up anno and all of his works i think the term "giant nerd" fits best and his wife seems to agree with me
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Nov 30, 2017 04:43
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rebuild 3 was worth it for the insane post-post apocalyptic landscapes alone also after more than twenty years who is still expecting eva to tie together the plot threads into a pretty bow?
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3.33 really helped me get a handle on the shinji/kaworu relationship. by transposing it into such an alien and hostile environment it becomes obvious why shinji would so quickly and easily grab hold of an emotional lifeline. on reflection the same dynamic is present in the tv version, but it was a bit too subtle for me my hope for 3.0+1.0 is that kaji is still alive and it turns out if he had just been around longer to give shinji chill advice in the original then the series would have come to a less emotionally messy conclusion
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CharlestheHammer posted:I actually don’t hate the timeskip I just don’t like how rushed it was. except shinji has faced terrible treatment and alienation from all of the people close to him throughout most of his life and even when he meets people who are slightly better they're still massively hosed up in a lot of their interactions with him. this hostility from others is behind almost every single one of his actions, he expresses fear of others, resentment of them, a wish to be closer to them, a desire to please and try to live up to expectations, but guilt rarely enters the picture. arguably it does in the aftermath of killing karowu. but shinji doesn't have any notable reaction to the thought of toji's little sister being injured, or the others like her. it's not the fate of mankind resting on his shoulders that compels him to pilot eva, it's the idea that it gives him worth in the eyes of others so no, the scenario you describe wouldn't really be in character
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Jul 19, 2018 03:26
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I actually disagree with this very strongly, because if this were true he would have piloted the robot for his father instead of waiting until he threatened to make Rei do it. i don't like writing posts so i get lazy and shorten my thoughts. i meant that shinji is motivated purely by his personal relationships, which are multifaceted, but is never shown to be motivated by any sense of obligation to mankind. so we're pretty much in agreement that point, i just didn't feel like writing out every emotion. i will say that in the midpoint of the series, as shinji becomes more comfortable, he begins to become more tied up in his sense of self worth, being sent away, ect. on reflection the events that actually bring him to refuse to pilot and then to finally pilot again are based on the fear of losing those close to him. i'm not really sure where that fits in the spectrum between altruism and selfishness CharlestheHammer posted:Outside of Toji who is hostile to him. Hell Toji isn’t really that hostile in the movies. a dude named gendo ikari comes to mind and misato, his surrogate parental figure, is at best an imperfect source of emotional support and at worst is manipulative so i guess only everyone that has ever lived with or is living with him. nothing too major
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Jul 19, 2018 04:23
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actually pen pen was only neutral at worst, so shinji had one decent family member
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Jul 19, 2018 04:24
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:like we talk about all the hosed up stuff in Shinji's life all the time but jesus christ let's consider for a moment what it must be like to be raised by a man who cloned you from his dead wife and cares for you primarily as a proxy for her it might be a bit difficult to execute given that the greatest horror is the fact that your not the first and probably not the last clone and i'm not sure how you get the full impact from that from the cloned characters perspective
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:living as a bird without a care in the world can't possibly true, he had the noisiest, most bonkers flat mates
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CharlestheHammer posted:Gendo isn’t hostile he is indifferent that is a huge difference. denying a child love or making your emotional support contingent on them doing what you want is a hostile act, even if you don't yell at them Tuxedo Catfish posted:I don't remember exactly how the conversation goes but when I get home I'll go dig up the scene where she talks to him after the first time he refuses to pilot, I think it will be illuminating. that's the type of scene i very much have in mind
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Jul 20, 2018 04:04
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wild to think that more time will separate rebuild 1.0 and 3.0+1.0 than separated the end of the tv show and the start of rebuild
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Jul 20, 2018 05:47
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Pierson posted:I don't have a copy of the scene to hand but isn't that more or less the same as the teaser at the end of 3.0 which also had an Eva pirouetting around spewing bullets randomly at nothing? did the 2.0 teaser really lie or did that stuff happen and they just skipped it?
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Jul 27, 2018 04:09
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anno's wife's autobiographical manga about their marriage is great. he is just a massive, massive otaku
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Aug 8, 2018 03:15
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biracial bear for uncut posted:So, uh, this is a thing? i know nothing of darling and the franxx, but that doesn't seem very similar to evangelion at all as long as we're bumping the thread for dumb poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X9RUOEOoNQ
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think the only scene they would care about is the masturbation scene and the most you will get is man that was weird and dumb and then everyone will move on. you could even say that scene is so hosed up
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Nov 28, 2018 02:32
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Maurice Augustus posted:Fun thing is both endings are positive (at least from Shinji's personal level) but one says Instrumentality is good and the other says it is bad. people say this, but i honestly don't see it. in both endings there is a pretty clear rejection of instrumentality and the impetus behind it though the reasoning behind the rejections does differ slightly
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- the sequence in which unit 01 starts running after jet alone -shinji sitting on the train and the compartment occupants change as time passes -the alternate reality scene where everyone is wacky (only in the dub though) GhostofJohnMuir fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Dec 14, 2018 |
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if 4.0 is delayed again i'm just going to welcome the sweet embrace of death
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i mean, i get why anno would jump at the chance to do it. motherfucker loves ultraman, probably more than the he loves kamen rider
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SHISHKABOB posted:Does anyone have any idea what the hell Rei is reading here? It's in episode 9, the one after Asuka is introduced. i only knew about this because my mom, who is a molecular biologist, happened to walk by when i was watching that scene and asked why people were studying rna transcription in my weird japanese cartoon
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The REAL Goobusters posted:This is true. I just still think it’s hosed up since Shinji (who is 14 years old btw) is suffering through some of the most intense mental trauma and this is what he’s told?? catching up with the thread, but i think it should be kept in mind that misato's response to shinji's grief at kaworu is probably heavily colored by her own personal history. someone also sacrificed their own life so she could live and then she went into a catatonic state for a couple of years, and she still can't wrap her head around why her father saved her, or let go of the survivors guilt. she's telling him to just accept things and move on without thinking about it because that's how she copes with an analogous situation.
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Zeruel posted:Yeah, that's post Armisael, where she may or may not have slit her wrists. Given that she's in a hospital with a drip, I think it's likely she did. eh, if she was so out of it that she was out exposed to the elements for the length of time she slipped her handlers and not bothering to eat and drink she'd likely be in a state which would require hospitalization and intravenous fluids
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MoaM posted:This is hilarious actually....the most underappreciated episode of the series gets into the biggest Eva film. man, i had to go back as soon as i read this post and watch the second half of episode 7. just so good. that eva drop gives me goosebumps every time
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