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I'll take the SAS  team of the moment Columbus Blue JacketsCan we email you picks if we don't have DMs? Also can we do the new divisions just because?
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I confirm I guess. Do we have a set start date yet?
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Apr 9, 2013 01:31
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I am proud to announce that not only is Tumbling Ryan Kesler off the IR he's accepted the role of honourary GM of the Columbus Blue Jackets this year! I mostly chose him because I'd never seen Doughty doing the wanker motion before and it's great This is a snaking draft so I have picks 30 and 31 right?
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Apr 9, 2013 22:41
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Hey I'm here give me 10 minutes, just got home from work. That first round went quickly.
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Apr 12, 2013 22:45
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With the 30th overall pick Tumbling Ryan Kesler and the Columbus Blue Jackets are proud to select Alex Pietrangelo  Only having recently turned 23, Pietrangelo is already one of the premier defenceman in the NHL. With all the hallmarks of a franchise defenceman about to enter his prime, I had to reread the list 3 times to be sure he hadn't already been taken. A smooth skater, a great passer and with a heavy shot there's pretty much no part of his game that isn't already as close to picture perfect as possible. A lanky defenceman with incredible reach, he's already broken the 40pt mark from the blueline twice in his career and has averaged close to 25 minutes a game since he was 21 years old. A true number one that any team would kill to build around. Plus as evidenced by this video he's sure to be the next Nick Lidstrom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT0epvit_fs Seriously he's better than like 50% of the picks in the first round so far. You guys are crazy (I literally just checked again to be sure he wasn't taken).
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Apr 12, 2013 22:58
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With the 31st overall pick the Columbus Blue Jackets select Patrice Bergeron  Having been around forever, it's easy to forget that Patrice Bergeron is still only 27 years old. Breaking into the NHL as an 18 year old in 03/04, he's established himself as one of the premier two-way centres on earth. A brilliant penalty killer and faceoff man with a wicked shot and underrated hands and playmaking ability, he's an easy player to build our offence around. He'll never put up 50 goals or 90pts, but his contributions at both ends of the ice more than make up for that. He was a big part of Boston's cup win in 2011 (easily the 2nd best player behind Thomas) and when necessary will carry his team on his back for long stretches. Without a single flaw in his game he's impossible to pass up on. Unlike other all offence centres out there, as he ages he'll easily transition to a role as a defensive specialist, and (assuming his concussion problems don't come back) I could easily see him playing into his late thirties. A great player and an all around leader, he's going to look fantastic anchoring the PP and PK at Nationwide Arena for years to come (not to mention likely wearing the 'C').
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Apr 12, 2013 23:20
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canuckanese posted:Another good pick. I thought he might fall deeper into the second, but he's a great guy to build around up front. Probably one of the best, if not the best, all-around forwards in the league today. No flaws in his game, use him in any situation and he'll get the job done. Pretty much my thinking. There were other players that will likely put up more points than him out there, but 1) I like to build around my back end and down the middle and 2) I like players that can fulfill any role. Plus watching him in 2011 broke my heart because he was what Kesler COULD be if he stopped being and idiot and actually focused on playing fair.
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Apr 12, 2013 23:28
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Paulocaust posted:I know who you're thinking of and he's going a bit late, but he'll go soon. I think I know who you're you're thinking of and I didn't take him simply because I didn't want two defencemen. He is the better player IMO, but I'm building a franchise not drafting for the future, I have to be strong at all positions.
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Apr 12, 2013 23:29
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myron cope posted:The only problem with Pietrangelo (and Tuuka) is that his contract is up this year. He's $3.16M now, but where does he go? If you want to play hardball you point at Subban, if you're not at idiot you lock him up for 8 years at something around $6.5M.
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Apr 12, 2013 23:38
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Austrian mook posted:I'd say Kopitar was also a pretty big reach. There were better players in his position still on the board. I dunno, LA gets forgotten a fair bit but Kopitar is a drat good player and he's still fairly young. He's maybe not a top 5 centre in the league, but he's close and he's annoyingly consistent. I'd have no qualms building a team around him.
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Apr 12, 2013 23:43
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^^^^^^^ Going in with a plan in mind is probably a good idea. Obviously you can't pre-select your players, but you can focus on specific areas. First round is probably BPA, but beyond that you need to start focusing on what you want your strengths to be. Drunk Canuck posted:They're both very good centres indeed, but I gave to edge to Kopitar since he's a better goal scorer. Crosby. I couldn't disagree more. A top-tier playmaking centre will turn a mediocre winger into a 30 goalscorer, a 40 goal scorer isn't going to turn his centre into a ppg player. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Apr 13, 2013 |
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Apr 13, 2013 00:01
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eXXon posted:... averages over .5 GPG in the regular season and nearly .5 in the playoffs, so good argument for taking him first overall? I elaborated, and he's the best player since Lemieux so probably not the best comparable. However, it's fair to say he's regarded as a playmaker rather than a goalscorer.
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Apr 13, 2013 00:05
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I almost took Pietrangelo/Letang 30/31 but decided I didn't want two franchise defencemen and a patchwork offence. He was the player I considered better overall than Bergeron, but in the end positioning won out.
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Apr 13, 2013 00:49
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Chairman Wao posted:Playing Shogun 2: Total War and researching hockey players, while agonizing over drafting them in a fantasy GM draft. Could I ask for a better Friday? (Probably) I ran a conference all day, I've fantasized about blowing my evening watching/posting about hockey and being totally anti-social since 6am.
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Apr 13, 2013 01:16
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I wouldn't worry about Landeskog. He's another player that will have a long career even if he never scores 30g only because he's so good defensively. Plus the guy is a captain at 20 for a reason. There are a number of problems with the Avs, but he isn't one.
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Apr 13, 2013 15:44
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Not to mention missing 11 games with a concussion.
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Apr 13, 2013 16:23
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I can see why Neal fell as far as he did. Wingers are generally the least important players on the ice, and even though he's scored 40 before he hasn't really shown he can be much more than a slightly above average top-six guy by himself. His 40 goals last year were more than he put up in his best year in junior. I'm not saying it's all the Malkin effect, but he's going to have a hard time proving he can be a top line guy without an elite playmaker next to him.
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Apr 14, 2013 18:40
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Yeah, I didn't actually think I had a chance of nabbing Yakupov at the end of the 3rd round, but a man can dream right?  This snaking draft is a cruel mistress. e: NM misread the OP. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Apr 15, 2013 |
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Apr 15, 2013 14:04
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Ehrhoff is a great pick. $4m a season for perhaps the best pp qb in the league is a steal. I was hoping to get him. I figure our imaginary owners have no problem paying a guy $8m a year, so cap hit is all that matters. Edler is more troubling. At times he plays like one of the best defencemen in the league, then he'll have flash backs to his swedish beer league days and blindly throw the puck out front and lose all confidence. I wish he wasn't mercurial. When he's on he's a world beater, when he's off he is the least physical train wreck in History.
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Apr 15, 2013 18:40
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mennoknight posted:Really? It wasn't a bad pick, but this statement is a little outrageous. I demand a retraction. There's a reason the Canucks PP went from 1st in the league to 4th (which was built entirely on a good first half, after January 2012 their PP was putrid) to nearly dead last after Ehrhoff left. There aren't many players who read the play from the point better than him. He may not have the physical tools of someone like Chara or Weber, but set up in the attacking zone I'd say he's essentially unmatched.
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Apr 15, 2013 22:31
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GOD DAMMIT
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Apr 17, 2013 00:50
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Austrian mook posted:Good pick there. I'm surprised people were taking Huberdeau and Yakupov over him but I didn't want to say anything lest I tip someone off. I was being SO patient but noooooo
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Apr 17, 2013 00:53
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Chairman Wao posted:Double checked before leaving for work that he hadn't been taken yet, and was still shocked he was on the board. You're my enemy now.
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Apr 17, 2013 00:57
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Well I was really hoping to get Luongo and Skinner, so without further ado let me introduce the 4th and 5th members of the revamped Columbus Blue Jackets Jakub Voracek  Jakub Voracek has really come into his own this year. A skilled winger with an excellent ability to protect the puck, the young Czech was heavily influenced by Jaromir Jagr's style of play last season. While he'll never approach anything lose to Jagr's level, he has all the hallmarks of a young top-line winger just entering his prime, not to mention a very favourable cap hit for 3 more years. The Columbus Blue Jackets are happy to take him back, beginning to correct the decision to trade him away as part of that horrendous deal two summers ago. Cam Ward  With a bevy of talented young goaltenders in the league, it was a difficult decision to turn to a more experienced player, but not one we're likely to regret. Often overlooked when listing the best goaltenders in the league, Cam Ward has done all that can be asked of a goaltender. A cup ring, a Conn Smythe and multiple allstar selections. Since leading the Hurricanes to a Stanley Cup in his first NHL season, Ward has established himself as a boneafide #1 and perennial allstar. A technically proficient goaltender, he's rarely out of position, but makes flashy saves when called upon. He's put up some fantastic number behind a Carolina defence that has been borderline putrid for a number of years. Dependable and unflappable, his calming influence will be invaluable if this team is to succeed. His cap hit is larger than I'd like it to be, but sometimes you have to pay for quality and Ward has that in spades.
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Apr 17, 2013 22:58
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Jordan7hm posted:Don't like Ward though. Mediocre starter. At least you got good value on him on where you picked him. Yeah, I'm honestly not 100% sold on him but he'll do. He's definitely overpaid, but he'll provide reliable goaltending at worst. I seriously considered 3 or 4 other guys in his place, but in the end experience won out. There are a number of flash in the pans out there, but none of them have done enough to prove to me that they'll still be starting in 3 years time. Goaltending is a difficult position to break into and lock down. Some goaltenders look good early in their careers, then teams get a read on them and they start to get shelled. At least ward can be counted on to provide .915S% goaltending year in and year out which is really all a team can ask for.
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Apr 17, 2013 23:06
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Verviticus posted:actually he's really good at hurting other people. like, he doesn't give any fucks about how many bones he breaks on a powerplay, if you let him shoot he will hurt you He can't body check at all though. It's weird.
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Apr 22, 2013 23:11
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Austrian mook posted:"one of the leagues best shut down defenseman"? Is that true? I haven't heard that said by anyone else and it seems though to believe since he hasn't stood out in the Canuck games I've seen this year. I dunno if that's entirely accurate, but he is pretty drat good. He's perfect positionally and great at angling players off the puck. It's strange because, as previously stated, his skating is quite poor but he rarely (if ever) gets caught flat footed. His +/- (not a great stat, but useful when looking at extremes) is far and away the best among the Canucks' defence and he's deployed pretty much exclusively against the other team's top pairings. He's strong and great at pinning players to the boards, but I don't think I've ever seen him attempt a hit. He doesn't even try to hit players up against the boards for whatever reason. He's not a great passer, but he does have a booming (if incredibly erratic) shot. Also he leads the league in goals from the point that slowly slide along the ice but somehow end up in the back of the net without touching anything, so there's that too. Seriously look at this goal it makes no sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZ5nLkivYw Zodijackylite needs to hurry up so I can pick. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Apr 23, 2013 |
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Apr 23, 2013 01:52
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Austrian mook posted:Alright, is he a right handed shooter? He's a left handed shot and 28. He was originally put on the left side with Edler playing the right and that pairing was a horrendous mess and was rightfully ripped by the fans/media. Around Mid-February AV wised up and moved him to the right side with Hamhuis and he's been our best defenceman since.
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Apr 23, 2013 01:59
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Jordan7hm posted:Mike Weaver and Jason Garrison were never a top 30 D pairing, let alone top 3. I think they actually finished close to the top of James Mirtle's Rod Langway award the year they played together. They were pretty unheralded, but Weaver is a decent shut down guy in his own right and it was a mistake for the Canucks to let him go over a few thousand bucks. e: 2nd and 3rd in 2011. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/the-nhls-top-defensive-defencemen/article576301/ Also that reminds me that Gillis needs to stick to signing UFAs and never make any more trades. Seriously, every one of his free agents has been at least decent. Hamhuis is A+++ would buy again status and Garrison pretty close. Sundin taught Kesler to score and Malhotra - he's pretty much retired so I figure using his name is alright was the best checking centre in the league until his eye kerploded. All his trades are awful though.
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Apr 23, 2013 02:02
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Mirtle rankings aren't perfect and I have made my problems with advanced stats quite clear, but extreme outliers like the top 5 of that list are probably quite good. I don't know how anyone could consider Hamhuis, Garrison or Suter bad defensive defencemen? Carlson is more questionable and the last guy plays in Florida so who knows what he does. the talent deficit posted:garrison is pretty good but the canucks defense is pretty awful so it's hard to tell if he's actually good or just good in comparison. hamhuis is the only consistently good dman vancouver have and he's not exactly a superstar. vancouver fans think a dude i can't name is one of the most underrated dmen in the league but really he's just not as big a disaster as edler and another dude i can't name Uhhh? They've been top 5 in GA (including 4th overall this year) for 4 straight years? I mean there's no clear cut #1 there but overall they're quite good and fit well with the superstars we have between the pipes. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Apr 23, 2013 |
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Apr 23, 2013 02:14
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Jordan7hm posted:e: Was Jason Garrison the one putting up a .937 save percentage while he was on the ice in 2011 when Mirtle did that list? On ice save percentage is literally my least favourite advanced stat, especially when using it to say a defenceman is good or bad defensively. A goaltender doesn't stop shots in a vacuum, that high S% simply could be because the players in front of him are good enough to keep shots to the outside, clear rebounds and get rid of screens. It's very difficult to score on an NHL goaltender on straight shots. Ugh, I hate advanced stats. The place that I think advanced stats might actually be most useful, the shootout, is the only part of hockey I've literally never heard them brought up...
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Apr 23, 2013 02:24
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quote is not edit. Of course there's a huge delay before I get to pick.
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Apr 23, 2013 02:25
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I'm not going to get to draft before the Canucks game am I?
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Apr 23, 2013 02:52
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Vigilance posted:So uh are people gonna start picking again? I have been twiddling my thumbs since work ended waiting to do exactly that.
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Apr 23, 2013 03:09
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Yay I finally get to go! With the final pick of the 5th round the Columbus Blue Jackets are proud to select Joffrey Lupul  Joffrey Lupul has bounced around the league a bit, but he's a pure finisher, something that I don't have in abundance at the moment. A smooth skater with a wicked wrist shot he's a lock for 25g and 50pts a season. He excels when put on a line with speedy players and isn't short of skill. He's not the kind of player that can be counted on to lead an offence, but he's a premier secondary scorer. His cap hit jumps up to $5.25M a season until he's 34 starting next year which is a far cry from a discount for a guy who has suffered from injury problems for the last few years, but I don't anticipate any big problems.
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Apr 23, 2013 03:39
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The Columbus Blue Jackets are proud (and surprised) to kick off the sixth round by returning to the Big Smoke and taking: Jake Gardiner  Jake Gardiner is something of an enigma. At the age of 21 the fleet-footed blue liner stepped into the Maple Leafs lineup and immediately excelled. Putting up 30 points and playing 20+ minutes a night in his rookie season, and was repeatedly tipped as the next big thing in Toronto. However, a coaching change and the lockout saw him demoted to the AHL for the majority of 2012/13 having only seen a dozen games of NHL action this season with far less responsibility. However, it's hard to pass up on a player like Gardiner. Part of a new breed of defencemen that developed following the most recent lockout, his game is built around speed and transition play rather than size and strength. Great vision and a nice outlet pass indicate that he has all the makings of a great PP quarterback. He'll look great paired with Alex Pietrangelo for the next decade. He'll be an RFA this summer, but his bizarre path to the NHL should see him sign a short term cap friendly deal that will give me the wiggle room I need to compete over the next few seasons.
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Apr 23, 2013 03:48
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Vigilance posted:Gardiner has undeniable upside but yeesh I'm surprised at how many prospects people are taking with great NHLers still on the board. Very, very surprised. I've watched enough of Gardiner in the last two years to say that at worst he'll a John-Michael Liles is his prime type. A great skater and a good passer, his style of play is the way the league is going IMO. Caryle's decision to leave him in the AHL makes no sense to me as he was clearly way too good for it (31 pts in 43 games)and he'd already shown he could play at the NHL level. Had he been with the Leafs all year he'd have gone a lot higher.
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Apr 23, 2013 03:55
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Verviticus posted:picked garrison because you're a canucks fan and i forgot you watch toronto or something I've lived in Toronto for 5 of the last 6 years so I'm pretty familiar with their team (and can't help but love them). I was seriously considering Garrison though.
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Apr 23, 2013 04:01
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Jordan7hm posted:Part of why veterans are the ones traded is because that's what people actually want. Nobody wants Jake Gardiner to help them compete right now. Not many good veterans left out there are on great deals. In a cap world you have to look at bang for buck and hope that your younger players step it up while still on their rookie deals. Teams with depth are generally the best year in and year out, being top heavy tends to kill a lot of teams. Your bottom 2 lines still play 1/3 of the game for you.
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Apr 23, 2013 04:05
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Jordan7hm posted:Young guys are often on deals that aren't in fact deals. RNH is a great example. Right now his deal is mediocre. His cap hit is close to 4 with all those bonuses. Justin Schultz is in the same situation. I picked him, so I'm obviously ok with it in some cases, but I certainly don't think Schultz is worth the money he is being paid. For all intents and purposes the cap hits for Gardiner, Schultz and the Nuge are $925,000. Bonuses are calculated very differently than pure cap money (you can exceed the cap with them as much as you like and the money is then removed from your total allowable salary the next year). Adding to that rookie bonuses are pre-set and often quite difficult to hit so only Crosby/Kane/Toews types will hit them (usually based on awards like win the Conn Smythe, Win the Ted Lindsay, Win the Hart Trophy). Rookie contracts are a great deal no matter who has them. And no having a team of teenagers isn't going anywhere, but young players that can actually play are invaluable because a) they're cheap and b) they allow you to fill out your team with actual NHLers on your lower lines and not just fill in scrubs or afford slightly better talent among your top end players.
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