Boston Bombing: Continuing the Discussion (be civil or else)

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Gio: Jun 20, 2005

Godholio posted:

Tough poo poo, in general.

That's a pretty hosed up sentiment.

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FreelanceSocialist: Nov 19, 2002

~~Harrelson's father is dead, too. He died during his sentence.~~
Missed the ninja edit.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 16:54

Petey: Nov 26, 2005; For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?

sheri posted:

The news media had said probably not. The officer was sitting in his car, the two must have saw him, freaked out, and they pretty much ambushed him in his car.

That is what has been reported. I am skeptical. The reason I am skeptical is because of this picture of the crime scene outside the Stata Center at MIT taken from a window shortly after the murder. Note the blood on the ground. Linked because blood. http://i.imgur.com/UBhGwvF.jpg

This is a fair distance in from any road. It's definitely not anyplace near where MIT Campus Police would just be idly sitting in any normal circumstances.

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Jose Valasquez: Apr 8, 2005

The Entire Universe posted:

Woody Harrelson's dad is in there if I recall. He's dead now though.

~~He was until he died~~

Also missed the edit

# ? Apr 20, 2013 16:55

Chaitai: Apr 15, 2006; Nope. I got nothin' witty to go here.; College Slice

So who pays for everything? I mean, I understand taxpayers are paying for the police force and whatnot, but what about the military helicopters that were brought in? Can any of it be charged back to the suspects or their family?

The main reason I ask is that I had a former coworker who ran from the police when he was pulled over for speeding while on probation. After, when he was in court, they ordered him to pay for the fuel that was used in the chopper that was in pursuit. He also said that the chopper wasn't dispatched for him, but someone else and that the chopper was returning to the heliport before getting the call to follow him.

Now that I type that out, that seems like a bunch of bullshit...

# ? Apr 20, 2013 16:55

Art Alexakis: Mar 27, 2008

The Entire Universe posted:

Woody Harrelson's dad is in there if I recall. He's dead now though.

Rest in peace

# ? Apr 20, 2013 16:57

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Somewhat far back, but this thread grows too fast

semper wifi posted:

millions of people use black powder and smokeless to reload. at this point i think a grand total of three? people have been killed with bombs utilizing it.

there's basically no benefit to restricting it and it causes a lot of people a lot of hassle. no reason to restrict it.

This is really a simple problem to fix...put age restrictions on pressure cookers like states did with spray paint. It'll be just as effective.

Neither of these guys tripped any red flags, ever except maybe the older one in one instance. Chances are they would have bought just as much explosive, done their deed and we'd know about them and capture them in roughly the same time frame.
These constant bandages of "Well it did something bad once out of the thousands of times per year it's used so we need to ban/regulate the gently caress out of it" really does nothing.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 16:59

Invicta{HOG}, M.D.: Jan 16, 2002

WastedJoker posted:

Do we know the extent of his injuries other than gunshot wounds to neck/leg?

No credible source that I know of. And he still has a right to medical privacy so we will likely not hear anything from the hospital. He climbed out of the boat on his own, though. He should live.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 16:59

asdf32: May 15, 2010; I lust for childrens' deaths. Ask me about how I don't care if my kids die.

Chaitai posted:

So who pays for everything? I mean, I understand taxpayers are paying for the police force and whatnot, but what about the military helicopters that were brought in? Can any of it be charged back to the suspects or their family?

The main reason I ask is that I had a former coworker who ran from the police when he was pulled over for speeding while on probation. After, when he was in court, they ordered him to pay for the fuel that was used in the chopper that was in pursuit. He also said that the chopper wasn't dispatched for him, but someone else and that the chopper was returning to the heliport before getting the call to follow him.

Now that I type that out, that seems like a bunch of bullshit...

What was the cost estimate of shutting down the city on a work day? I saw $333,000,000. I don't think it's worth trying to recoup that.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:00

jalopybrown: Oct 11, 2012

Chaitai posted:

So who pays for everything? I mean, I understand taxpayers are paying for the police force and whatnot, but what about the military helicopters that were brought in? Can any of it be charged back to the suspects or their family?

The main reason I ask is that I had a former coworker who ran from the police when he was pulled over for speeding while on probation. After, when he was in court, they ordered him to pay for the fuel that was used in the chopper that was in pursuit. He also said that the chopper wasn't dispatched for him, but someone else and that the chopper was returning to the heliport before getting the call to follow him.

Now that I type that out, that seems like a bunch of bullshit...

I don't think he had much money to really cover that and the family in the US are siblings and the Aunt/Uncles, I can't see them being made to pay for it.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:00

Dr. Cogwerks: Oct 28, 2006; all I need is a grant and Project is go

Chaitai posted:

So who pays for everything? I mean, I understand taxpayers are paying for the police force and whatnot, but what about the military helicopters that were brought in? Can any of it be charged back to the suspects or their family?

Why bother? It's not like we're all going to get a bill specifically for this event. All those departments have operating budgets and they've probably got access to the big ol' pot of homeland security funding for things like this.

All the local businesses that got shut down, I'd be a lot more worried about how those folks get taken care of, if they do. They'll probably end up just having to eat the losses for the day.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:01

got dat wmd: Apr 28, 2009

Speaking of "eating the losses." It's unfortunate that insurance doesn't cover loss of food in acts of terrorism. There's literally thousands of dollars of spoiled food sitting out in restaurants on Boylston since Monday on tables and in the kitchens. Sad, but there will probably be ways to recover the losses.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:04

GWBBQ: Jan 2, 2005

Petey posted:

That is what has been reported. I am skeptical. The reason I am skeptical is because of this picture of the crime scene outside the Stata Center at MIT taken from a window shortly after the murder. Note the blood on the ground. Linked because blood. http://i.imgur.com/UBhGwvF.jpg

This is a fair distance in from any road. It's definitely not anyplace near where MIT Campus Police would just be idly sitting in any normal circumstances.

Do we know if 282 is his car?

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:07

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Gio posted:

That's a pretty hosed up sentiment.

I'm an angry person and I have little patience and even less sympathy for people that earn a ticket there. As far as I'm concerned the bed should be replaced with an iron maiden.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:08

DEAD MAN'S SHOE: Nov 23, 2003; We will become evil and the stars will come alive

quote:

Nenonen posted:
No. They did only harm.

BBC has a summary on this. 'Racist Where's Wally' sums it nicely.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22214511

The search for Sunil Tripathi can now be called off

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oxsnard: Oct 8, 2003

In Massachusetts it's called Romneycare

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CAPS LOCK BROKEN: Feb 1, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

oxsnard posted:

In Massachusetts it's called Romneycare

Hahahah their boy Mitt lost in part because he couldn't run on Romneycare aka Obamacare Beta

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:10

Ride The Gravitron: May 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

DEAD MAN'S SHOE posted:

The search for Sunil Tripathi can now be called off

I hope that after all that, maybe some people can spot Sunil now that his face was plastered all over.

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MattD1zzl3: Oct 26, 2007; Can't post for 4 years!

Healing americans: Now a divisive political issue.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:13

Potato Swift: Oct 27, 2012; i fought the saw and the saw won

This whole thing has gotten me kind of interested in police scanners in general - can anyone recommend a good iPhone app for it?

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:16

Gio: Jun 20, 2005

Godholio posted:

I'm an angry person

Sounds like it. Maybe you should chill and learn to love again.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:18

got dat wmd: Apr 28, 2009

Rongeur posted:

This whole thing has gotten me kind of interested in police scanners in general - can anyone recommend a good iPhone app for it?

TuneIn is quite decent, also covers AM/FM radio feeds and internet stuff.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:19

Toaster Ding: Apr 30, 2006

Squinky v2.0 posted:

Yeah, it's all speculation but this seems very likely. It really looks like these guys never considered what would happen after they did this (or even that they might get caught), given that they had no apparent escape plan and how quickly everything went to poo poo once their pictures were passed out by the FBI. Panic seems like a strong possibility.

But who knows at this point?

Judging by their arsenal of guns and grenades I'm guessing their "escape plan" was to go down in some stupid martyr blaze of glory. Only one of them accomplished it though

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:22

Petey: Nov 26, 2005; For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?

GWBBQ posted:

Do we know if 282 is his car?

I don't know if any of these are his car. If one of them is it means he was, for some reason, driving on the walkways of campus (MIT CP usually are not). If they are not, it means he was out of his car, and then the story changes.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:23

Petey: Nov 26, 2005; For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?

Rongeur posted:

This whole thing has gotten me kind of interested in police scanners in general - can anyone recommend a good iPhone app for it?

http://completure.com/

Anyone with an iPhone needs to have this app.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:23

Castomira: Feb 24, 2011; Fuck you Eva Marie, if you have to be right there next to all of my posts you don't even get to have red hair. You're a dryad now.

Since it's the weekend, we shouldn't expect to hear anything more about White Hat (or, at least, anything more than "he ain't dead") until Monday, right? Sometimes I really hate that journalism makes the weekend into reruns.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:27

wa27: Jan 15, 2007

Rongeur posted:

This whole thing has gotten me kind of interested in police scanners in general - can anyone recommend a good iPhone app for it?

Buy a scanner, they're fun! Make sure the one you get is compatible with whatever your local PD uses though. If your department hasn't upgraded to a trunked system then a cheap, old scanner would work fine.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:30

Kilonum: Sep 30, 2002; You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

Rongeur posted:

This whole thing has gotten me kind of interested in police scanners in general - can anyone recommend a good iPhone app for it?

If you ever want to drop the cash on an actual scanner, I highly recommend the Uniden BCT15X (desktop/car mount) and BC346XT (handheld)

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:34

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Gio posted:

Sounds like it. Maybe you should chill and learn to love again.

Nah I'm good, for the people that deserve it. Or at least haven't removed themselves from my good graces.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:34

DUNCAN DONUTS: Mar 27, 2010; by XyloJW

Can someone fill me in on the details of how they got him out of the boat? When I was on here yesterday they threw a bunch of flashbangs at him, were preparing to get a K9 unit on him, and lining officers up to one side in case they wanted to fire at him. At that point I had to go to dinner. Next I read he was in the hospital.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:37

Invicta{HOG}, M.D.: Jan 16, 2002

MGH reporting only ten bombing victims still in house with five listed in fair condition and five listed in good condition. Excellent news and similar to what other hospitals have said. Still a few in critical condition (60 yo M at BMC, one at BI just now opening his eyes, two at Children's expected to survive, four last listed at Brigham, etc).

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Jose Valasquez: Apr 8, 2005

DUNCAN DONUTS posted:

Can someone fill me in on the details of how they got him out of the boat? When I was on here yesterday they threw a bunch of flashbangs at him, were preparing to get a K9 unit on him, and lining officers up to one side in case they wanted to fire at him. Next I read he was in the hospital.

HRT said "Hey, come out of the boat!" and he said "Oh, ok!"

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:38

Invicta{HOG}, M.D.: Jan 16, 2002

DUNCAN DONUTS posted:

Can someone fill me in on the details of how they got him out of the boat? When I was on here yesterday they threw a bunch of flashbangs at him, were preparing to get a K9 unit on him, and lining officers up to one side in case they wanted to fire at him. At that point I had to go to dinner. Next I read he was in the hospital.

They called in the negotiators and he just came out.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:38

seventeen: Jan 2, 2005; Do not try and score on the powerplay. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.

What truth?

There is no powerplay.

Petey posted:

This is a fair distance in from any road. It's definitely not anyplace near where MIT Campus Police would just be idly sitting in any normal circumstances.

As someone related to a member of the MIT police force and as an employee of MIT in a nearby building, I can say with 100% confidence it is never unusual to see an MIT cruiser idling on Vassar, Amherst or Mass Ave at any time of day. They are constantly moving through the area on foot, bicycle and car.

Pair this with the multitude of bomb threats and suspicious packages found in the area and it is no surprise MIT police would be on the lookout

seventeen fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Apr 20, 2013

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:38

Kilonum: Sep 30, 2002; You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

DUNCAN DONUTS posted:

Can someone fill me in on the details of how they got him out of the boat? When I was on here yesterday they threw a bunch of flashbangs at him, were preparing to get a K9 unit on him, and lining officers up to one side in case they wanted to fire at him. Next I read he was in the hospital.

After the flashbangs they yelled surrender instructions at him, which he followed.

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Flyball: Apr 17, 2003

Gio posted:

Also--Why did they carjack someone? Didn't they have a car? Hopefully their investigation fills in the blanks here.

It was in the shop.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:39

Fog Tripper: Mar 3, 2008; by Smythe

Gio posted:

That's a pretty hosed up sentiment.

No, it really is not.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:40

Safe and Secure!: Jun 14, 2008; OFFICIAL SA THREAD RUINER
SPRING 2013

Godholio posted:

I'm an angry person and I have little patience and even less sympathy for people that earn a ticket there. As far as I'm concerned the bed should be replaced with an iron maiden.

Yeah, and then maybe we could arrange it so that the people in there could get raped repeatedly for the duration of their stay.

# ? Apr 20, 2013 17:40

Pillowpants: Aug 5, 2006

What's the donation link petey set up again? I just donated $1 at cvs, but I feel like I should donate more

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Edged Hymn: Feb 4, 2009; by Y Kant Ozma Post

You could almost feel the release of all that tension last night. I've never been prouder to be a Bostonian. I wish I could have been in that Watertown crowd cheering the cops on when they drove by. Mad respect for law enforcement and their dedication through what must have been one of the most emotionally and physically draining weeks of their lives. Enjoy the weekend you glorious bastards, you earned it. Especially you, Petey.

I'm not trying to be funny here, but how is it that the boat wasn't searched during the lockdown? I heard somewhere the house was just one block outside the perimeter, is that true?

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