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Failboattootoot posted:Saint is a relentless rear end in a top hat. I used to watch him stream a bunch back in S2 when he was still on CLG and I learned a lot about jungling, but I especially learned that he is a massive shitlord. Nah. Jack keeps secrets well. He doesn't get ahead of himself in announcing stuff, and the tweet you're talking about (below) is almost certainly him being an all-around good guy and wishing Elementz luck. TSM_Jack posted:@CrsElementz Best of luck on your new adventure. You're a good guy, I'm sure I'll be seeing you soon. Failboattootoot posted:Is it ok to talk about caster drama? Does anyone have any idea what the hell happened today to cause GGMonteCristo to lose his poo poo? A bunch of Reddit drama or some such? Doctor w-rw-rw- fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Apr 21, 2013 |
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Libertine posted:The teams that just show up and place are making the LCS Salary of $175,000/5 = $35,000 a person and they probably have to spend some of that money on their expenses. I thought each player was paid about $25k. There's also the manager and travel expenses to think about too. And rent to take out of that, whether the guys are paying it directly or not. Sexpansion posted:The other thing to remember is that these players also make some more money off of streaming, team merchandise sales, etc. And it really depends on what part of the country you're living in; a single person in an area with median cost of living is not doing too bad on that income level. Sexpansion posted:There's a TSM tournament on right now with Studio casting http://www.twitch.tv/TSMTournaments Jonny Angel posted:Are there prizes for placement in the LCS, or is it just a flat salary with the prizes on the line being a) staying in the LCS and thus staying salaried and b) qualifying for Worlds?
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Grinning Goblin posted:This is just insane, sad, and sort of sums up my fears about some of the people who are professional players at the moment. I hope that he can mature up at some point and realize that he might want to go to a school and get a college degree. Yes, because instead of finding your calling, and taking risks to follow your dreams, you should optimize for most likely course to get a degree and /maybe/ come out with a job with mediocre pay, that /maybe/ you don't hate. Totally not a difficult decision that he has spent time thinking about. I don't think people can really justify having fears about the pro players in such a way except their close friends. They're basically athletes (minus the athletics :P). They're there to play the game; we're here to enjoy it, not to judge them for choosing to become players. Dude had a rough life and overcame some fairly significant obstacles. That's the story, not that he's immature for not taking the standard track for entering the workforce.
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Sexpansion posted:Yeah, I completely agree and this is my point exactly. Besides it probably not being totally self-contained or just a drop-in setup, probably because they need to lock it down hard. If a game server ever got leaked that could be devastating to their ability to control the game ecosystem (i.e. gameplay mod proliferation) and revenue (i.e. all skins, all heroes, on everyone).
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That happens on any livestream, honestly. The company I used to work for ran event livestreams with a healthy number of viewers. Sexism, objectification, and all manner of nasty things were said when there was a reasonably good-looking female onscreen and for a while after they left.
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May 6, 2013 02:58
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Alakaiser posted:Cris needs to ditch the sweatpants if he's going to be on camera. I take the fashion of my professional video game players very seriously. And he needs to pay attention to fidgeting and body language. Hand below the waist and restless legs made for a somewhat awkward viewing experience, jeez. Still, congrats! Really excited for the next season! :D I do hope that Riot takes care of the relegated teams, though. They should probably build a sub-LCS league to keep the pro ecosystem healthy.
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I swear, my blood pressure jumps every time they keep talking about "manning up". Other than that, they're doing a fine job casting, but this constant talk about "manning up" makes me sick. Am I the only one?
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May 12, 2013 22:10
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Flayer posted:Why does it annoy you so much? I've made the mistake of browsing /r/leagueoflegends on Reddit a bit too much lately. For example, people discussing how ugly Reginald is and how hot Leena is, then someone saying something along the lines "Y'know, should his girlfriend or her appearance really matter? Most people are average, and that's no big deal" got downvoted and someone called him a white knight and asked "why should you care anyway" as if that weren't totally hypocritical. So I'm sort of in the state of mind where them saying "manning up" triggers my "gently caress off, teenagers" mode since I associate it with juvenile assholes, even though I don't really hold it against the casters personally (they're obviously fine people and great casters). Them saying it just makes me a bit angry.
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May 12, 2013 22:40
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Hypocrisy posted:Glad scarra is smiling again. I was kind of freaked out at how...unhappy he looked at the end of that game. Yeah. Happy scarra is the best scarra. TSM is my favorite team, but Scarra is totally the best personality. Watching Dignitas with a sad scarra was hard.
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IBentMyWookie posted:How do LCS salaries work? Is it a bi-weekly check? How much is it if a team gets relegated cause I heard it's 30k per player or 175k per team. Is that just for each split? Do they include housing since teams are required to be near Riot studios for the LCS? Delivered as a lump sum to the team, if I'm not mistaken.
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Jonny Angel posted:So, word from reliable sources (including Studio, Phreak, and directly from LemonNation) is that Quantic have been wrecking TSM/Dig/Curse/CLG in scrims. Are there too many variables at play here for that to mean anything, or can we officially start boarding the Quantic Hype Train? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWQ_5UV9Ukg tl;dw: They are mechanically proficient but their momentum started so early they didn't really have much of a chance to throw or make serious mistakes.
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May 18, 2013 17:34
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AdjectiveNoun posted:So that group of players will still be in the Summer season, just under a new name? Given that they qualified it'd be pretty weird for them to get replaced by a bunch of people who presumably did not.
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May 24, 2013 03:15
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AdjectiveNoun posted:I'd think so, but I just don't know what happens when teams change like that, so just wanted to check whether they were still in or if they'd do some quick MRN vs. Complexity series to replace them. :p I think it's 100% safe to say that ex-Quantic will be participating in the LCS. Just not as "Quantic".
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Riftling posted:Edit: Aw, I last heard the rumor was that Jack was picking up GGU. They really need a good manager/coach. I definitely won't blame Jack if he's picking ex-Quantic up, though; they're a solid team that he can do some great work with. Where are you getting these rumors from?
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May 24, 2013 04:31
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Invalid Validation posted:I know esports is goofy and all, but they should just let teams pick a name not associated with sponsors so they can keep it if they have to switch. It gets loving confusing sometimes. Yeah, it's not like sponsors pay for the team names. 
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May 24, 2013 05:34
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Invalid Validation posted:I can't imagine they would ever think site like that would sponsor a team, so until it happens, probably not. TSM Spankwire would be great. I wonder how much the sponsors really make from the teams. I'm not sure even they would know. Consider Snapdragon. That's not really money-for-sales that they paid for, it's money-for-recognition. So the kind of accounting that a company that does that kind of ad budget might not necessarily say "X campaign produced # sales for Y product", but rather measure increase in brand recognition. How many people who might have an Android phone now strongly recognize the brand "Snapdragon", and understand it's a processor that's in their phones? Probably a lot, since League has a lot of teens with smartphones, who aren't necessarily going to go for the upscale option of an iPhone. Porn wouldn't be a good sponsor to pick up and given that Riot can be as heavy-handed as it likes with LCS, and its audience has immense numbers of people under 18, they'd totally veto it, rules be damned (i.e. Riot makes the rules, who needs rules?).
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Jack just tweeted:@Cloud9_Jack posted:Quick update for everyone, Cloud 9 (formerly playing under Quantic Gaming) has reformed with me taking the role of owner and GM He's acquired Quantic's players and is now the owner and GM of Cloud 9. I helped him set up the website DNS and stuff :D
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Sexpansion posted:I think Cloud9 might be better than CRS at this point, and maybe TSM. There's world class but there's no "best", as Doublelift would put it. Though it certainly helps that TSM is on good terms with Jack, who now owns C9. I hope they scrim each other and get better for it.
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Veskit posted:I think you guys are severely underestimating how much money worlds is actually worth to a member of curse. It would be a very nice bonus, but I would be loving shocked if all the members of curse aren't making at least 200k a year, just for being on the team. And TSM hasn't owned the houses; they've rented them. For pretty decent prices, too. Doctor w-rw-rw- fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jun 7, 2013 |
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mushi posted:There's obviously enough money to live off of by being a "pro gamer" but lets be honest - until you see a tax return no one in this thread has any idea how much any of these guys are actually making.
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KicksYouInHalf posted:e:I do think Regi and HotShotGG make $200k, being the owners of their respective teams.
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IBentMyWookie posted:Yeah, Solomid.net, Lolking, and Probuilds. He owns all three and gets like 8 million uniques a month. I don't know how much money that translate into, but it is probably a lot. KicksYouInHalf posted:Maybe so but keep in mind he may own it, but he doesn't keep that machine rolling. Other people get paid, too.
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Two of the first nine articles are sponsored articles? Might want to delay your monetization strategy a bit if you want to grow your readership faster.
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Stallion Cabana posted:Just because they make money doesn't mean they want to leave the house anymore then most people, and when you have a team of gofers to go get you food it's probably going to be take-out because it's the fastest. They don't have a team of gophers. E: deleted rest of the post. Basically, I've heard a couple of private numbers and I don't think that the numbers are as sky-high as people presume...yet. Doctor w-rw-rw- fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Jun 8, 2013 |
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Stallion Cabana posted:Really? It seems like they always have other people in the house. I admit not knowing much but I thought they had some other people there too. It always seems like people besides Dan and Regi's GF are in the background, but it might be confirmation bias. Nope. Team + Dan + Leena.
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wodin posted:A minor recommendation - this writeup is really cool, but it would be really good to have a paragraph or two at the beginning of each of these recaps that just explains what happened (who won, who lost, and what their season split record is thus far). That information is actually annoyingly hard to find. http://na.lolesports.com/season3/split2/matches with spoilers off (note that it will include TODAY's games as well, so...spoilers) http://na.lolesports.com/stats#league-stats-slider On that note, I find it kind of hilarious that the Top 4 staples are all tied in the bottom five.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCra5IDCm3I Man, it looks like Maple's masking a lot of pain there with sarcasm. I know what that's like.
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For the most part, it was maple being super-harsh on himself and Travis poking at him with "why do you think Velocity isn't doing so well?" followed by "Well we're just poo poo and I guess in order to win more we need to stop being bad and lose less, lol >:(". That and something about Atlanta leaving.
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Hypocrisy posted:The League community has reached a new level of tastelessness by comparing Dyrus to a battered spouse after the latest TSM man child drama bomb. I don't think you know what it's like to be locked into a job that you (used to?) like with someone who you used to have a better relationship with using/abusing power over you in a way you have problems with. I can sympathize, and while I won't say it's worse or even equivalent or even tasteful, but the comparison isn't totally off base, assuming the above is true.
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Hypocrisy posted:Reginald handled the situation disastrously (and he really shouldn't be the manager of TSM) but reducing the situation to "Reginald the shithead/abusive spouse" is pretty worrisome too. I agree that it wouldn't be fair to put blame squarely on Reginald for the situation but Reginald has gotten caught on camera so many times overpowering arguments by being louder and more powerful than the people he's talking to that it's also fair IMO to raise serious concerns about his responsibility as an owner and leader interfering with his role as a team member.
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Frgrbrgr posted:C9 violated their contracts with Quantic and Mark Ferraz decided not to sue them. KicksYouInHalf posted:Regi was dead set on getting rid of Chaox. I don't think it would have mattered all that much what the others had said. He also "asked" them in a really ambush-y way and forced them to choose on the spot without discussing as a big group. At least that's what the videos would have you believe. That wasn't the case either, and it should be obvious that the videos lose a huge amount of context.
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Digital Jedi posted:Yea. That is the other option but I think it is less likely. I don't think he would really give up the business side of something he created. I don't know what that really entails but trying to trust someone with something you created that is pretty successful would be hard. He wouldn't necessarily have to cede control. He could just have Jack take care of the business and C9 could join Solomid, if S4 allows organizations to own two teams. They have a couple of years of trust and working together to go on, so although it's pure speculation I don't think it's far-fetched.
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Comrade Question posted:I'm not really up to date on Worlds since time zones and others things tend to get in the way, but is Cloud9 seriously out after one Bo3 while in the group stage lovely teams played so many games they didn't even know how to throw them anymore towards the end? What a waste. Yes. Cloud 9 has lost out of the World Championchips. Done. Out. Finished. >:(
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Propaganda Hour posted:Attack on League of Legends More like League of Avatars. Because Studio Mir actually animated that.
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silly posted:Why would you read the thread if you haven't watched the games? I woke up and checked the forums as a part of my routine and the first thing I saw was a comment on how C9 got stomped by GG. Needless to say, I was pretty pissed that I wasn't going to be able to watch without knowing the outcome, not that I'm blaming the poster, since there's no rule.
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Studio posted:There could always be a shadow team like some people say about TSM and Cloud 9. Source: I worked at Crunchyroll with Jack.
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Interesting, didn't realize that Solomid moved over to Curse for their ads. The ads configuration system still looks pretty much the same though so I wonder if Jack helped negotiate that too (haven't talked to him in a couple weeks, and it's been a year since we talked regularly). Side note: GameCribs was made possible by Jack and a lot of hard work with CBSi and Qualcomm. He seriously busted his rear end for a long time to make it work.
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What recourse do the players really have? Anyone close enough to the teams to negotiate a union or player's association runs the (virtually-certain) risk of getting blackballed from LCS. That's not a risk any of the top teams will want to take, and anyone else is basically expendable. Even if the union were negotiated successfully, somehow, whoever was responsible would be on Riot's permanent poo poo-list.
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Frgrbrgr posted:I interviewed Quantic and it went well - http://na.lolesports.com/articles/quantic-physics-interview-prime Looks good, but your editors are lazy: quote:Note to editors: thought this picture might go well here:
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